Are modern women taught to hate men?

[Stuart dorrans]

4 minutes ago, scarlett said:

 

Also realizing just how hard life for men has become because they cannot find their place.

 

"Being a man" is wrong because it is disrespectful towards women who want to be independent, equal rights is wrong as well because most women still expect to be treated differently. Hard to find balance.

 

The feminist agenda is pretty sad because it's completely unnatural. A man and a woman are meant to have different roles in nature, are built differently, have different strengths and weaknesses, ways to function, of seeing the world. Therefore are not meant to be same or equal in ever aspect.

 

If anything, complete each other while having a relationship based on mutual respect, each their role. In that sense, "equal" , yes, contrary to what's being promoted and where everyone is struggling to find their right place in society.

 

Yep, we are all being socially engineered to hate each other. Hate breeds hate. Men and women are different, as it should be. Feminism is making men feminine and women masculine. The roles have been reversed. It's a classic war tactic. If men don't have a family they can call their own, then what have they really got to fight for. With the state this country is in women should be building men up, not tearing them down. A classic family unit creates strong men and women.

[Truthblast]

Occultists are so besotten with their hatred of God that they will attack ANYTHING God has created:

 

- Men

- Women

- Children

- Animals

- Ecosystems

- Nature

- Weather

- Oceans

- Outer space as well?

[Certified Green of Heart]

On 1/8/2023 at 2:09 AM, scarlett said:

No wonder hardly anything comes natural anymore and we can't just be humans.

 

Absolutely!!

[Pwr2us1]

On 12/16/2022 at 11:49 AM, Mr H said:

In the bible right of the bat in genesis I think. Women represented by Eve, are  untrustworthy and weak minded.

 

I wonder how this story has influenced both sexes' behaviours down the years......

Stop promoting false shite plz, it talks about humans being weak and giving in to temptation ,sure women have great power when many strong men give in to lusts for women etc.etc.etc.whats good for the goose . . . .

[Hegel Schmegel]

An argument could certainly be made that misandry is what largely fuels the modern Western Zeitgeist termed 'female empowerment.' Are there courses in this? I'm not sure. Note, however, this isn't about wanting to be equal, but about power -- power over men.

 

There was a time in secular society, not so long ago, when women in general did not think themselves superior to males, but rather were as modest and humble as many of today's grannies.

 

The social forces primarily responsible for popularizing feminism would do a lot to change how men in the West were perceived and treated by the opposite sex, with an increase in 'female supremacists' and crypto-man-haters being merely a by-product of this rather effective, decades-in-the-making propaganda campaign orchestrated by the social engineers.

 

Have you ever wondered why the majority of men in sitcoms are portrayed as slackers and idiots, and why so many Hollywood-made movies depict men as wife-abusers and rapists? This is not so much the small- and big-screens imitating reality as it is effective cultural programming. Such is also why you never heard of a 'henpecked husband' until about the latter half of the 20th-century. They have been given an inch, have taken a mile and then some, and are now loving every minute mounted atop their high horse.

 

This castrating, snarly attitude and dissing of men you see today, mostly in the secular West, has been accomplished not so much through grass-roots efforts as by design, beginning with the engineered woman's lib movement here in North America, which, although on the surface professed the noble aim of freeing womankind, has arguably, in effect, only worked to 'masculinize' the female gender on a grand, if not irrevocable, scale. It's as if this has been done to acclimatize women to living in a predominantly manly world. This might only be just a theory but sometimes I wonder, where have all the ladies gone?

 

Case in point: During my years in the workforce I have yet to see a man wearing a padded bra and miniskirt but I have seen many a woman clad in ether pants or a business suit; some who strut with an air of confidence or a swagger befitting a cowboy, as if believing they've been liberated when perhaps all they've really been is 'masculinized.'

 

Perhaps, then, it could be a case of modern women hating men -- even if only subtly so and on a subconscious level -- for their having to dress and act as cocky as some males, in order to fit in and succeed in society; in a sense, resentful for having sold a part of their souls to the machine, if you will. In psychological jargon, what the 'masculinized' female projects is not so much 'female' empowerment as an underlying 'penis envy.'

 

So it is I feel this antimale spirit of the age is really just a cultural symptom of a society which has lost and is badly in want of feminine qualities. By this I mean to say, that if both men and women were softer and gentler and thought less in patriarchal, hierarchal terms the world would be a far better place, with less man-haters around. Instead, you have women who get off on being domineering, who like to be in charge, in control, who seek out positions of occupational or political power, all the while often behaving quite unladylike.

 

(As just one example, I know of a department manager, a woman who I'd describe as a manly woman, who enjoys addressing a fiftyish gentleman, a co-worker 'beneath' her job title, by way of a condescending hailname, as if he were a little boy or puppy, when for him to express back to the spiritual juvenile the same indignity would be beneath him to do, however much he'd love to be treated as a fellow human being with a name, as opposed to being viewed as an objectified, dehumanized 'subordinate.')

 

This isn't to say that the majority of men are any better, what with hypermasculinity the norm. Indeed, where have all the gentleman gone?

 

Still, to think that there are those -- some men included -- who believe that if women governed the world there'd be a lot less war and other forms of violent aggression, or even a complete end to these things, altogether. Personally, this idea that somehow the world would be a better place if women ruled the roost is over-simplistic and spurious. For in society today, I find there are just as many unlikable traits in women as there are in men, that women can be, for example, just as argumentative, spiteful, rash, hard-headed, unforgiving and mean-spirited as some, if not many, men can be. There are female serial killers. Women unfit to rule fill penitentiaries. Many young women commit violent crimes. Some male husbands are verbally, physically, and sometimes even sexually abused by (dildo-toting) female wives. The only reason it's men who commit wars and not women is more likely due to the fact that women have, hitherto, never been in a position to do the same -- the mythological Amazons of old, notwithstanding.

 

In sum, if it is a case of women hating men -- whether consciously or unconsciously -- I don't think it has much to do, if at all, with differences in gender as similarities in manly attitude and ego. In my opinion, they are also not so much being taught misandry, as say in some indoctrination center, as coming by it naturally.

 

For some guys, it's gotten so bad it's enough for them to seek out feminine companionship in a sexbot or love doll.

[Campion]

Thanks Hegel. And there's a demographic aspect to this regardless of what we think of the ethics of it.  All the countries which have gone down this path have a collapsing birth rate and can only keep up the population through mass immigration from cultures from the old patriarchal order.  So how's our progressive society going to survive? It will have to convert the newcomers to its own way of life, or at least their children through the education system - but in that case they will likewise have low fertility as adults. So the mass immigration and indoctrination will have to continue (and there to be enough non-progressive countries to supply the immigrants), with no guarantees that it will stabilise and enough people will buy into it.  It already relies on a wobbly welfare state, law enforcement barely holding back the crime, and government finances which have been in the red for a generation. So I reckon it can't carry on like this for much longer, another generation or so and the centre won't hold without some heavy control and any pretence of liberal progressivism will be long gone. 

[Dymphna]

One could also ask the opposite: Are modern men taught to hate women?

[Mr H]

On 2/3/2025 at 2:29 AM, Dymphna said:

One could also ask the opposite: Are modern men taught to hate women?

I would say not. Quite the opposite. Men are brought up to put women on a pedestal.

[Screamingeagle]

i would say we  live in a world which is based on reaction ,once you react it is easy to manipulate the direction,to get desired outcome.

[SoundOfSilence]

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

An argument could certainly be made that misandry is what largely fuels the modern Western Zeitgeist termed 'female empowerment.' Are there courses in this?

 

You know there are. As do I. Generally called feminism 101. Or if you're a post grad - Master of Harpy.

 

I am sure you have watched Yuri Bezmenov clips on YT. He is a KGB defector in the early 1980s. He laid out all the subversive elements.

 

Feminism is a particularly subversive one.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

I'm not sure. Note, however, this isn't about wanting to be equal, but about power -- power over men.

 

That is certainly part of it. But where it leads to is creating a divide between the sexes.

 

Another part of the agenda, as you know, was to get women in the workplace so as to break up the family unit. This has resulted in catastrophic psychological consequences manifesting in increased depression in women and increased suicide rates. Also, an increase in female psychopathy since it is required to succeed in a number of environments.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

There was a time in secular society, not so long ago, when women in general did not think themselves superior to males, but rather were as modest and humble as many of today's grannies.

 

I suspect that did not occur in secular societies.

 

One motive behind tearing down religious institutions was to replace them with the 'Global Homo' agenda. There is no moral authority - do what feels right to you.

 

The problem with the new atheist movement was that once it had torn down religion there was nothing to replace it with. So evil moved into the vacuum.

 

Likely by design.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

The social forces primarily responsible for popularizing feminism would do a lot to change how men in the West were perceived and treated by the opposite sex,

 

I agree.

 

Just horrified by the number of incels and cucks that buy into this nonsense.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

Have you ever wondered why the majority of men in sitcoms are portrayed as slackers and idiots,

 

No.

 

But then that's because I am aware of your point.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

and why so many Hollywood-made movies depict men as wife-abusers and rapists?

 

I'm confused.

 

Are you saying we shouldn't behave like this?

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

This is not so much the small- and big-screens imitating reality as it is effective cultural programming. Such is also why you never heard of a 'henpecked husband' until about the latter half of the 20th-century. They have been given an inch, have taken a mile and then some, and are now loving every minute mounted atop their high horse.

 

Is that a euphemism?

 

Don't worry. I'll move on.

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

masculinize' the female gender on a grand, if not irrevocable, scale.

 

This is an excellent point.

 

If you look at some of the traditional male occupations, such as law or being a CEO, when women move into these careers they seem to become even more Alpha.

 

They end up even more sociopathic. 

 

Take for example disagreeing with another person. Two men will express their disagreement, in a business context, and rarely take it personally. I don't think straight talk comes naturally to most women.

 

What I mean by this is that they observe men talking to each and find it a bit aggressive but don't appreciate that men are more logical than emotion based and what they perceive as confrontational is just a rational discussion. What ends up occurring is that women feel a bit threatened by this confrontation and, as a defensive posture, respond even more aggressively.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

It's as if this has been done to acclimatize women to living in a predominantly manly world. This might only be just a theory but sometimes I wonder, where have all the ladies gone?

 

OnlyFans!

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

Case in point: During my years in the workforce I have yet to see a man wearing a padded bra and miniskirt

 

Head down to your local library for Drag Queen Story Time.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

but I have seen many a woman clad in ether pants or a business suit; some who strut with an air of confidence or a swagger befitting a cowboy, as if believing they've been liberated when perhaps all they've really been is 'masculinized.'

 

I take the point. And that is certainly an element of modern society.

 

But Garbo, Katharine Hepburn and Marlen Dietrich wore suits in the late 1920s through the 1930s and there was none of the angry dressing agenda behind it. It was just a way of feeling comfortable and liberated.

 

There was not the subversive element then.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

Perhaps, then, it could be a case of modern women hating men -- even if only subtly so and on a subconscious level -- for their having to dress and act as cocky as some males, in order to fit in and succeed in society; in a sense, resentful for having sold a part of their souls to the machine, if you will. In psychological jargon, what the 'masculinized' female projects is not so much 'female' empowerment as an underlying 'penis envy.'

 

I also think there is a lot of indoctrination and entitlement.

 

Social media is far more destructive to women than a high body count. Though a high body count is much more damaging to women than men,

 

I don't like rating women. For me it is a question of would I date her or wouldn't I.

 

But I see a lot of self-entitled women on various platforms, that I wouldn't dream of dating, demanding 6 feet plus man with good looks earning 6 figures and a successful career.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

(As just one example, I know of a department manager, a woman who I'd describe as a manly woman, who enjoys addressing a fiftyish gentleman, a co-worker 'beneath' her job title, by way of a condescending hailname, as if he were a little boy or puppy, when for him to express back to the spiritual juvenile the same indignity would be beneath him to do, however much he'd love to be treated as a fellow human being with a name, as opposed to being viewed as an objectified, dehumanized 'subordinate.')

 

He has to share some of the blame.

 

Failing to establish boundaries.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

This isn't to say that the majority of men are any better, what with hypermasculinity the norm. Indeed, where have all the gentleman gone?

 

There is nothing wrong with masculinity.

 

Sobbing into a pumpkin and soy latte over a hang nail is not the best contribution to society.

 

Women like masculine men whether they acknowledge it or not.

 

Proof?

 

Here's Joan Crawford, who was gorgeous in the 1930s and could have any man she wanted explaining why Clark Gable was the one.  Skip to 4:40 if you don't like clip of the Golden Age of Hollywood set to music.

 

 

A lot of women will tell you they don't like these things. It's just a test.

 

There is nothing wrong with masculinity.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

Still, to think that there are those -- some men included -- who believe that if women governed the world there'd be a lot less war and other forms of violent aggression, or even a complete end to these things, altogether.

 

No.

 

I don't believe that. I've watched Amazon Women on the Moon.

 

Well, okay, I only saw a couple of clips.

 

Perhaps a better example would be Hitlery Clinton explaining what she would do with nuclear codes. Around the time she was laughing like a hysterical hyena (and looking like one) over Muamar Gadhafi's death.

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

There are female serial killers.

 

I think in the case of women it more a learned behavior - sociopathy.

 

Whereas men tent more towards psychopathy. 

 

On 1/25/2025 at 7:47 AM, Hegel Schmegel said:

For some guys, it's gotten so bad it's enough for them to seek out feminine companionship in a sexbot or love doll.

It's probably better just to pullout altogether. 

 

Oops ...

 

Perhaps I could have expressed that better.

 

No, I can't use withdraw or go solo either.

 

Let me put it this way. In a number of countries men are no longer dating. There are a number of speed dating events where only women turn up. A lot of men are done with it.

 

Approach the wrong woman in the wrong way and you're up for a sexual harassment suit. Or worse, arrest and prosecution.

 

Why bother?

 

The problem with an AI sex robot is that no matter how hot she looks once she works out that you are causing global warming and endangering every life on this planet then she is going to crush the life out of you with her thighs.

 

At least that is what happens in the movies I watch ...

 

I enjoyed your post by the way.

Edited March 28 by SoundOfSilence
Misspelt psychopathy. 🤦‍♂️

[Mr H]

Just updated thoughts from observation after passing of time...

 

I don't think women are taught to hate men. But I do think there is a broader cultural agenda that sets out to demonize and weaken men. This is takes a multi faceted approach. It's more a side effect of this that many people, both male and female are anti masculine.