Are modern women taught to hate men?

[Mr H]

You here this a lot, particularly in the manosphere.

 

I'm just wondering if there is any truth to it?

 

Are modern women taught or encouraged by society to hate men?

[Mr H]

Just my experience which is only a small sample. I remember back in the day it seemed that women were more approachable to chat to. I'm not specifically taking about dating. Just general chatting. Nowadays seem a lot more hostile. But I don't know if this is "good ol' days" thinking.

 

Also I remember last time I was in a bus station in the UK, there were announcements constantly that if a women is being harassed by a man to report it. Obviously genuine harrasment shouldn't be tolerated, but it kind of puts in peoples psyche not to approach women for a chat incase they deem it harrasment. Whole environment seems to have changed.

 

Just something I noticed when in UK.

 

In central America where I am now it's a lot more like the olden days and environment generally friendlier.

[Ethel]

Modern Western society plays men and women off against each other. It takes a lot to not buy into it. Feminism in it's original incarnation had merit but like all "movements" has been weaponized to a great extent. Based on my stance on abortion alone I cannot consider myself a feminist but can empathize with the plight of women in Arabic countries. 

 

As far as feminism in the West is concerned the sad truth is that some of the biggest misogynists are women. This is the reason most of the power roles in this world have been held by men. 

 

Sociologically both Fathers and Mothers psychologically damage their children through the socialization process so I am disinclined to set the world's problems at the feet of only one gender. Both are equally responsible for the terrible state our world is in.

[Anti Facts Sir]

It seems that everyone and everything is being set up to distrust and see bad in the other. A climate of victimhood, mistrust, fear, division.

 

Ridiculous new "laws" and propaganda highlighted by @Mr H are just some of the latest, high-profile examples.

 

Don't look at people. Don't talk to people. Don't be near other people. See everyone as a threat. Do not enjoy yourself. Do not drink. Do not travel. Do not enjoy life.

 

We got a peek into this "new world" they'd like to enforce during the Covid sham. And they won't stop now, just cos that was reined it a bit. They've set the markers down now.

 

[Mr H]

23 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

It seems that everyone and everything is being set up to distrust and see bad in the other. A climate of victimhood, mistrust, fear, division.

 

Ridiculous new "laws" and propaganda highlighted by @Mr H are just some of the latest, high-profile examples.

 

Don't look at people. Don't talk to people. Don't be near other people. See everyone as a threat. Do not enjoy yourself. Do not drink. Do not travel. Do not enjoy life.

 

We got a peek into this "new world" they'd like to enforce during the Covid sham. And they won't stop now, just cos that was reined it a bit. They've set the markers down now.

 

Good point.

 

I think also generally speaking they make out that everywhere is more dangerous now. And you see in the papers stabbings and violence. If you talk to people they often say it's more dangerous now, especially those with kids, won't let them play outside.

 

From memory back in the day, no CCTV, and I remember plenty of violence still. Just not reported 24/7

 

Seems to create a general atmosphere of distrust between folks and encourages a don't approach me attitude cos you might be dangerous.

[pi3141]

I agree with Ethel and Anti Facts, however this man woman divide was originally put in place by the church 2000 years ago, it's not from modern society.

 

Anti Facts sums it up nicely, they want you living in fear, divided - this is the opposite to what Christ taught or what God wants, so you can see where this agenda comes from.

[EnigmaticWorld]

5 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

I agree with Ethel and Anti Facts, however this man woman divide was originally put in place by the church 2000 years ago, it's not from modern society.

 

Anti Facts sums it up nicely, they want you living in fear, divided - this is the opposite to what Christ taught or what God wants, so you can see where this agenda comes from.

 

This glows.

 

I find it hard to believe that no other culture before the church divided men and women.

[pi3141]

7 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

This glows.

 

I find it hard to believe that no other culture before the church divided men and women.

 

I accept your point, I see how my statement seems to place sole responsibility on the church.

 

However I think the discussion centres on Western society and regarding that, the RC church has had the most influence on Western society, so I don't think its completely inaccurate.

 

I presume your aware of the church fathers doctrine of 'The Inferior Origin of Women' 

 

I presume you accept the church has had a major influence on our Western society? 

 

And of course some older Western cultures did treat men and women equally? Spartans for instance. From Greece, the cradle of Western civilisation. 

 

So yes, with regard to the inequality of men and women in Western society, I do think the church has had a massive influence and I personally lay the blame, predominantly, at their door.

[EnigmaticWorld]

1 hour ago, pi3141 said:

 

I accept your point, I see how my statement seems to place sole responsibility on the church.

 

However I think the discussion centres on Western society and regarding that, the RC church has had the most influence on Western society, so I don't think its completely inaccurate.

 

I presume your aware of the church fathers doctrine of 'The Inferior Origin of Women' 

 

I presume you accept the church has had a major influence on our Western society? 

 

And of course some older Western cultures did treat men and women equally? Spartans for instance. From Greece, the cradle of Western civilisation. 

 

So yes, with regard to the inequality of men and women in Western society, I do think the church has had a massive influence and I personally lay the blame, predominantly, at their door.

 

Maybe so, but I personally don't believe that it started with the RC church. Not that I'm bothered about division between man and woman as men and women are different.

 

All I know is in modern times, feminism is intertwined with people that we're not even allowed to talk about in a bad light. Churches are just tools at this point, they can't even control themselves.

[Screamingeagle]

9 hours ago, Mr H said:

You here this a lot, particularly in the manosphere.

 

I'm just wondering if there is any truth to it?

 

Are modern women taught or encouraged by society to hate men?

i would say that all humans are taught to hate,polarising opinions,trigger the reaction and then fuel it more

 

sort of fundation of ours 

[Mr H]

5 hours ago, pi3141 said:

I agree with Ethel and Anti Facts, however this man woman divide was originally put in place by the church 2000 years ago, it's not from modern society.

 

Anti Facts sums it up nicely, they want you living in fear, divided - this is the opposite to what Christ taught or what God wants, so you can see where this agenda comes from.

In the bible right of the bat in genesis I think. Women represented by Eve, are  untrustworthy and weak minded.

 

I wonder how this story has influenced both sexes' behaviours down the years......

[EnigmaticWorld]

18 minutes ago, Mr H said:

In the bible right of the bat in genesis I think. Women represented by Eve, are  untrustworthy and weak minded.

 

I wonder how this story has influenced both sexes' behaviours down the years......

 

Young white girls are literally following a trend on TikTok where they sing about how much they love the muh dick boat people. Don't act like it won't be us men that have to deal with the violence that they're welcoming in society. Men can't just open their legs to invaders.

 

There was a vid I posted in the random thread (censored now) where women were asked who should die out of them or their partners, and they pretty much all said their partner without even giving it much thought.

Edited December 16, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

[EnigmaticWorld]

Imagine looking at the THOTs today and thinking that it's just a modern phenomenon. How do we know how much of a nuisance harlots in antiquity were?

Edited December 16, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

Don’t underestimate the power of women. Apparently they used to have all the power, which is why it turned into an intense patriarchy, suppress those women as much as you can type of thing.

 

it’s the same reason Muslims won’t allow women into mosques to pray with the men. All it took was one psychic psycho narcissist woman to destroy an entire congregation, usually through sex, blackmail and ritual Sex magic. 
 

It’s these eastern star FATAL women that are dangerous. I’ve been a victim, can destroy any man. They use poisons like flying ointment in your shoes, evil gossip through their enabler network and coercion and sex blackmail with police/ local gov. 
 

They’re hiding behind woke LGBTQ sentiment and are placed in positions of power at countless global corporations/governments at the minute, waiting for their day, the grand reveal, the great reset. 
 

Thank god there are still some lovely ladies around though, you’ll know them when you see them, they give off a light and endearing innocence and make you feel good.

 

Big up the lovely ladies!

[Ethel]

Also, it was decided somewhere back in time, by the illuminati of course, that women were only to be appreciated mainly for their sexuality rather than anything else. That's why everyone knows the name Marilyn Monroe but hardly anyone knows the name Hypatia.

 

At the end of the day though it isn't men vs women it's the illuminati vs everyone else.

[Macnamara]

11 hours ago, pi3141 said:

I agree with Ethel and Anti Facts, however this man woman divide was originally put in place by the church 2000 years ago, it's not from modern society.

 

Anti Facts sums it up nicely, they want you living in fear, divided - this is the opposite to what Christ taught or what God wants, so you can see where this agenda comes from.

 

this is complete hogwash! its like you are living on a different planet!

 

these issues between men and women aka 'the battle of the sexes' is the result of marxist feminism in recent times

 

The roman catholic church has NOTHING to do with the current harrassment laws. Its all coming from the same neo-marxist social engineering of society as 'wokeness' and 'political correctness'

 

It has NOTHING to do with christianity and everything to do with neo-marxists looking to destroy western civilisation because they see the family as the building block of christendom and of western society so they are attacking it.

[Macnamara]

third wave marxist feminism:

Feminism, Masculinism, Battle of the Sexes

15. April 2018

 

“The third and fourth wave of feminism have moved away from the cause of equal rights and are more concerned with gaining special privileges for women over men.”

 

The first wave feminists (roughly 1800 – 1920) primarily fought to achieve equal rights for women, saying that if slaves were to be raised to freedom and equal rights, so should women. Their main focus was on contract rights, marriage, parenting, property rights, and voting.

 

The second wave of feminism (roughly 1960 – 1980) was more concerned with social acceptance of equal rights for women, as well as with remaining legal inequalities. Their main focus lay on divorce, domestic violence, educational equality, abortion, pregnancy discrimination, etc.

 

The third wave of feminism roughly took place between 1990 and 2012. For this article, we will count the political struggles for a woman’s right to control her own reproduction through contraception and abortion to the second wave, even if they took place after the 1990s. Like the other two, we will define the third wave of feminism primarily through its content. The third wave of feminism was mainly focused on rape culture, the patriarchy, violence against women, and on women being objectified and put down by a male dominated society.

 

The fourth wave of feminism (roughly 2012 – 2018) similarly focuses on rape culture, sexual harassment, everyday sexism and discrimination, objectifying women, and intersectionality. Concepts such as affirmative action (e.g. job quotas) and the patriarchy further characterize the third and fourth wave of feminism.

 

https://www.amoszweig.com/2018/04/15/feminism-masculinism-battle-of-the-sexes/

[pi3141]

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

this is complete hogwash! its like you are living on a different planet!

 

these issues between men and women aka 'the battle of the sexes' is the result of marxist feminism in recent times

 

The roman catholic church has NOTHING to do with the current harrassment laws. Its all coming from the same neo-marxist social engineering of society as 'wokeness' and 'political correctness'

 

It has NOTHING to do with christianity and everything to do with neo-marxists looking to destroy western civilisation because they see the family as the building block of christendom and of western society so they are attacking it.

 

Lol.

 

I started writing a response with evidence but I'm not going to bother.

 

Your partly right, it seems modern sexism started in the age of enlightenment but it can be traced way back to the Bronze age.

 

Then there's the church view of the Inferior Origin of Women as well as thinkers like Aristotle who described women as 'deformed males' and hence Inferior.

 

Even EnigmaticWorld said there were other older cultures that were sexist before RC church.

 

But whatever dude, I know your view, everything is the Marxists/Sabateans fault who are controlled and were instigated, by the Jews.

[Campion]

Long before I began joining the dots, when I was a teenager I realised that our society was the subject of a colossal experiment in social engineering in many ways, including feminism. We were totally going out on a limb compared with other cultures and our history, in the name of progress; in some ways it did liberate various groups but there was no thought given to the sustainability of the overall society in the long term in the face of so much change. It was all about seeing society as a fragmented  collection of oppressed and oppressing groups and liberating them in isolation. So feminism was about giving women more choice, equality and power, but without considering the impact on the rest. What happens to children, to men, to the elderly etc? 

 

I'm not suggesting women shouldn't have liberation, but that we need to appreciate how society functions as a whole. If we fragment ourselves into separate competing sub-groups, the liberation process becomes a poison pill where we hand out empowerment in a declining society.
 
Few people are offering a wholistic vision like this, because it's so difficult to do. Instead we're offered a  dialectic between a traditionalist view which idolises the past, or a progressive view which idolises equality at any cost. 

Edited December 16, 2022 by Campion

[Mr H]

13 hours ago, LastOneLeftInTheCounty said:

Don’t underestimate the power of women. Apparently they used to have all the power, which is why it turned into an intense patriarchy, suppress those women as much as you can type of thing.

 

it’s the same reason Muslims won’t allow women into mosques to pray with the men. All it took was one psychic psycho narcissist woman to destroy an entire congregation, usually through sex, blackmail and ritual Sex magic. 
 

It’s these eastern star FATAL women that are dangerous. I’ve been a victim, can destroy any man. They use poisons like flying ointment in your shoes, evil gossip through their enabler network and coercion and sex blackmail with police/ local gov. 
 

They’re hiding behind woke LGBTQ sentiment and are placed in positions of power at countless global corporations/governments at the minute, waiting for their day, the grand reveal, the great reset. 
 

Thank god there are still some lovely ladies around though, you’ll know them when you see them, they give off a light and endearing innocence and make you feel good.

 

Big up the lovely ladies!

There are still lovely friendly ladies in the west. From my experience they tend to be older. And especially the elderly.

 

I'm also sure there are lovely younger ones too. Just generally speaking the younger ladies seem to be a bit hostile and you have to tip toe a bit. They also seem to be very keen on these agendas as well, things like BLM and climate change.

 

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

There are plenty of great women in the West. I'm probably just jaded by TikTok girls stabbing white boys in the back for social media points.

 

One loyal women is worth a thousand nutcases.

 

If you find "the one", treat her like a queen.

[Morpheus]

Yes they are. They're taught that we are trash, we should support their very existence financially, emotionally and physically pandering to their every fuckin need. 

 

Watch this channel for more

 

 

https://youtube.com/@arakotv

 

I saw a video on here where some women said that her man should work 7 days a week, do all the cleaning, tidying, cooking and look after the kids. Not sure how this dude has the time in between his 7 day a week job, but there's no telling these psychos. Modern women are wondering why they can't get a man?

 

Here's why:

 

A women can sleep with anyone she wants. A man sleeps with who he can. 

 

A man marries who he wants, a women marries who she can.

 

I mean, half of the chicks in these videos believe () they can fight men, for real. It's crazy times. 

[Morpheus]

5 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

If you find "the one", treat her like a queen.

"I'll treat you like a queen, the kings bitch!"

 

Patrice O'Neill 

[Mr H]

2 hours ago, Morpheus said:

Yes they are. They're taught that we are trash, we should support their very existence financially, emotionally and physically pandering to their every fuckin need. 

 

Watch this channel for more

 

 

https://youtube.com/@arakotv

 

I saw a video on here where some women said that her man should work 7 days a week, do all the cleaning, tidying, cooking and look after the kids. Not sure how this dude has the time in between his 7 day a week job, but there's no telling these psychos. Modern women are wondering why they can't get a man?

 

Here's why:

 

A women can sleep with anyone she wants. A man sleeps with who he can. 

 

A man marries who he wants, a women marries who she can.

 

I mean, half of the chicks in these videos believe () they can fight men, for real. It's crazy times. 

Interesting. I hope this represent small amount of modern women.

I wonder what the young males are being taught these days?

 

This will be the first generation who has had a lot of their education from social media.

 

[LastOneLeftInTheCounty]

10 hours ago, Mr H said:

There are still lovely friendly ladies in the west. From my experience they tend to be older. And especially the elderly.

 

I'm also sure there are lovely younger ones too. Just generally speaking the younger ladies seem to be a bit hostile and you have to tip toe a bit. They also seem to be very keen on these agendas as well, things like BLM and climate change.

 

 

Yeah the younger ones are a bit tetchy  , still trying to find the right one though, she has to be unvaxxed and fertile, warm to the touch and enjoys a good afternoon in bed watching the rain.