Athenry04 Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Everything about this has me raising an eye. No witnesses left alive, rumours that the neighbour was mistakenly shot my police, dead perps labelled as conspiracy theorists, and no doubt 'anti-vaxxers'. Nothing makes sense, police following up on a missing person report are ambushed by two brothers and a woman. One of the dead alleged gumen was a former school principal, in fact a principal that I worked for on a number of occasions as a supply teacher. This could be another Port Arthur, but we'll see. Also shooting took place 12/12/2002. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/12/australia/queensland-australia-shootout-police-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-12/qld-police-emergency-declaration-wieambilla-unfolding-incident/101763662 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Athenry04 said: Everything about this has me raising an eye. No witnesses left alive, rumours that the neighbour was mistakenly shot my police, dead perps labelled as conspiracy theorists, and no doubt 'anti-vaxxers'. Nothing makes sense, police following up on a missing person report are ambushed by two brothers and a woman. One of the dead alleged gumen was a former school principal, in fact a principal that I worked for on a number of occasions as a supply teacher. This could be another Port Arthur, but we'll see. Also shooting took place 12/12/2002. https://edition.cnn.com/2022/12/12/australia/queensland-australia-shootout-police-intl-hnk/index.html https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-12/qld-police-emergency-declaration-wieambilla-unfolding-incident/101763662 If the DO link this to "conspiracy theory consumption", and keep going on and on about it, one thing is for certain: - There is SOMETHING SECRET HAPPENING WHICH THEY FEAR MAY YET LEAK ON THE INTERNET Conspiracy theories, books, videos are NOTHING NEW. They have been around forever at this point. But if there is something TOTALLY NEW AND UNDISCLOSED OUT THERE... ...then it WOULD MAKE SENSE PORTRAY CTs AS "GUN TOTING MANIACS" AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgyDidgy Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 Agree, there's quite a few holes in the story so far. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athenry04 Posted December 14, 2022 Author Share Posted December 14, 2022 Ah, here we go.... https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/australia-investigates-extremist-views-of-trio-who-killed-2-police-officers-in-ambush/ar-AA15gysT A series of posts under the name of Gareth Train, one of the killers identified in the wake of Monday's deadly shootout, was found on conspiracy theory forums, Queensland Police Commissioner Katarina Carroll said late Tuesday. The posts include references to anti-vaccine sentiments and claims that other high-profile shootings were hoaxes or false-flag operations. “It’s very difficult at the moment for us to reason with what has happened — there are no obvious reasons,” Carroll told the Australian Broadcasting Corp. But she added that, over the coming days and weeks, investigators would certainly develop some insight into what happened. Research and surveys show that belief in conspiracy theories is common and widespread and that those who subscribe to them are more likely to to get their information from social media instead of professional news organizations. The rise and fall of particular conspiracy theories are often linked to real-world events and social, economic or technological change. Carroll said every possible motive for the killings was being examined, including whether it was a premeditated attack on the officers. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 MY GAWD... HE HAD... UH... OPINIONS! https://7news.com.au/news/qld/queensland-cop-killers-bizarre-conspiracy-theory-comments-online-revealed-c-9146764 In one post, that appears to have been removed, Gareth said the Port Arthur massacre in 1996 had been an operation to “disarm the Australian population”. “Martin (Bryant) was the perfect patsy. The Australian government is guilty of mass murder, it’s not the first time and won’t be the last. Joint operation CIA, MI6, Mossad, ASIO and the Australian SASR,” he wrote in a post. In another post on alternative news site Cairns News, Gareth seemed to refer to the COVID vaccine as a “neurological bio-weapon”. “The majority of Australians are still deaf, dumb and blind having now injected themselves with a neurological bio-weapon which will soon be fully activated for total control and monitoring, if they don’t drop dead,” he wrote. “The intelligence services laughed when you all adopted their bookface, twithead – social control media and now they are laughing again, they will own your very thoughts.” Gareth also wrote about police attending his property in the past. “I have directed law enforcement to leave my premises over the last 20yrs, having no reason or grounds and at times have also asked them to remove their hands from their weapons or pull their pistols and whistle Dixie,” he wrote in a post on Citizens Initiated Referendums, the Courier Mail reports. “Fortunately for me they have all been cowards. “Our country is at a point where even cowards are now dangerous because they are unpredictable in groups, turn your back and you may find yourself out cold on the floor with law enforcement dancing on your head. We are seeing this in Victoria.” Nathaniel, who was listed as a missing person in NSW, was a former principal at several regional schools. He worked at northern Queensland primary schools Yorkeys Knob State School and Innisfail East State School, as well as Walgett Community College Primary School in NSW, according to information online. It is unclear when Train stopped working. However he stopped contacting family on December 4, according to a NSW police missing person alert. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) Did someone mention "the Port Arthur Massacre"? All this will be gone in 5-10 years. Edited December 15, 2022 by novymir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 15, 2022 Share Posted December 15, 2022 (edited) These stories are "world news"? Only to propagate worldwide the "danger" and "insanity" and "threat" of so-called "conspiracy theorists", and guns. This is how they will get people to snitch on others who speak the unspeakable. This is how they will justify scrubbing the internet and criminalizing "conspiracy" sites and material. Books they don't like will be criminalized. This is how they justify eliminating firearm ownership. This is how they can remove risk to their various organs of enforcement, so they can come to anyone's house and do as they please with them. This is how they will justify commitment and treatment of people for a "mental disorder". They are setting up the general population to accept and/or support genocide for "the greater good"... (even Eckhart Tolle is seeing and warning about it) This was some kind of setup/provocation, and not by the property owners. Ordo-ab-chao. ps; https://dailycaller.com/2022/12/01/france-personal-firearms-collection-gun-control/ psps; "She added that German authorities needed to "exert maximum pressure" to take their firearms away, and said that the government would "shortly further tighten gun laws." https://news.yahoo.com/germany-vows-tighten-gun-laws-173900932.html Edited December 15, 2022 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgyDidgy Posted December 16, 2022 Share Posted December 16, 2022 (edited) So much extra information has been given in the past week since it happening, like relationship particulars, statements from people who apparently knew them. In my opinion this is because a narrative is being set up they want people to follow. What have found weird is that has been reported due to a search they concluded people weren't living at the house, that a neighbor saw a car arrive a week ago for the first time (so they hadn't been there for long), a complicated surveillance system was set up and they were all wearing camouflage at the time of the shooting. So did they wear cams every day for a week before hand and did anybody else see them set up the surveillance system? ie, how busy did they get and why would they be preparing to expect a visit in a remote location. Then there is the relationship between the wife and the brothers, one of whom is an ex of the woman and how they could all unite to form some sort of a kill squad. Like the woman left one brother for the other, and now they are together to die fighting police. That's weird Edited December 16, 2022 by RidgyDidgy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athenry04 Posted December 17, 2022 Author Share Posted December 17, 2022 17 hours ago, RidgyDidgy said: So much extra information has been given in the past week since it happening, like relationship particulars, statements from people who apparently knew them. In my opinion this is because a narrative is being set up they want people to follow. What have found weird is that has been reported due to a search they concluded people weren't living at the house, that a neighbor saw a car arrive a week ago for the first time (so they hadn't been there for long), a complicated surveillance system was set up and they were all wearing camouflage at the time of the shooting. So did they wear cams every day for a week before hand and did anybody else see them set up the surveillance system? ie, how busy did they get and why would they be preparing to expect a visit in a remote location. Then there is the relationship between the wife and the brothers, one of whom is an ex of the woman and how they could all unite to form some sort of a kill squad. Like the woman left one brother for the other, and now they are together to die fighting police. That's weird Yeah the story is pure shite. It's a false flag narrative, and already they are being reffered to as 'conspiracy loons'. This story is being used to pile more hate on the dirty unjabbed, this country has lost any ability to critically think, and it's very fucking worrying to see. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted December 17, 2022 Share Posted December 17, 2022 On 12/14/2022 at 1:29 PM, Truthblast said: If the DO link this to "conspiracy theory consumption", and keep going on and on about it, one thing is for certain: - There is SOMETHING SECRET HAPPENING WHICH THEY FEAR MAY YET LEAK ON THE INTERNET Conspiracy theories, books, videos are NOTHING NEW. They have been around forever at this point. But if there is something TOTALLY NEW AND UNDISCLOSED OUT THERE... ...then it WOULD MAKE SENSE PORTRAY CTs AS "GUN TOTING MANIACS" AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. Conspiracy theorist has overtaken far right as a loaded term. Those given the label have gone from a figure of fun to be ridiculed to a danger to national security. It might even become relabeled as a mental illness, having various degrees of severity that at the least requires big pharma offerings and at the opposite end requires sectioning. That shift has become enshrined in people's consciences this last two to three years. Given that, you might well be right that the ground has been prepared with something specific in mind that has yet to be revealed. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Athenry04 Posted December 19, 2022 Author Share Posted December 19, 2022 https://www.bitchute.com/video/7pq7krolg4ZP/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 19, 2022 Share Posted December 19, 2022 The claim of a "missing person report" is suspicious. Why 4 cops showing up for such a call? I read somewhere the gate to the property was locked and they jumped the fence. Suppose that they were under surveillence, and their attitudes were then known by those surveillers... suppose they knew that the police showing up for no other apparent reason would set them off. I'm doubtful that a "missing person" lead justifies ignoring a locked gate and jumping over the fence, when we're not even talking about a crime committed, and no warrants for arrest. That locked gate seems to me to be the same as a locked door in a house. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 On 12/17/2022 at 7:13 PM, Saved said: Conspiracy theorist has overtaken far right as a loaded term. Those given the label have gone from a figure of fun to be ridiculed to a danger to national security. It might even become relabeled as a mental illness, having various degrees of severity that at the least requires big pharma offerings and at the opposite end requires sectioning. That shift has become enshrined in people's consciences this last two to three years. Given that, you might well be right that the ground has been prepared with something specific in mind that has yet to be revealed. Fast food outlets like BurgerKing and McD's kill hundreds of thousands of people a year with their fatty junkfood. But that's not a threat to society. Its them heavily armed CONSPIRACY THEORISTS thems be DA THREAT TO DA SOCIETY. The CTers are like AL QAIDA, but WORSE. They have WEB BROWSERS OF MASS DESTRUCTION! Yes yes... In fact IT WAS PROBABLY CONSPIRACY THEORISTS WHO FLEW THOSE AIRLINERS INTO THE WTC TOWERS 20 YEARS AG. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 So now the cops are going to "purchase" the property...(what if they're not welcome in that neighborhood?). "Measures have been proposed to ensure the Queensland property where two cops were brutally killed will never fall into the hands of conspiracy theorists again.". https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/queensland-police-union-plans-to-buy-wieambilla-land-after-cop-massacre/news-story/0cdd916d37496daa2d774b7a3444c48b "Death" is a lie. This world is a lie. They would say I'm crazy, in denial of reality. They are The Archons of The egoMatrix--Dream of Deceit. 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 The "authorities" knew about Nathaniel Train breaching a closed border crossing in Dec. 2021 that included suspicious activity while transporting and disposing of firearms. "...Weapons strewn across flooded creek bed" "Hours later when water began receding beside the vehicle, the farmer said they began finding weapons. He said that among the items Train had ditched in the creek were at least three firearms – "short scrub sort of weapons" and ammunition. He said the firearms were retrieved from the water and found to be loaded. He said he contacted police about the weapons and they were eventually taken away...". https://www.abc.net.au/news/2022-12-17/qld-police-shooting-nathaniel-train-rammed-border-dumped-guns/101783696 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgyDidgy Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, novymir said: So now the cops are going to "purchase" the property...(what if they're not welcome in that neighborhood?). "Measures have been proposed to ensure the Queensland property where two cops were brutally killed will never fall into the hands of conspiracy theorists again.". https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/news/queensland-police-union-plans-to-buy-wieambilla-land-after-cop-massacre/news-story/0cdd916d37496daa2d774b7a3444c48b weird. Why not just bulldoze the property and let the place be?They also want the place to be a memorial to the two officers. Instead they have a dramatised idea that their are actually people, sorry, 'conspiracy theorists' who would want to buy that property to spread ideology. Most people don't think like that, people who would be deemed 'conspiracy theorists' are so varied, they can't be pigeon holed in such a way. They are revealing how they think. The government and police want to spread ideology. They don't want people to question authorities, vaccinations, or official narratives. Also whatever energy is behind this event, doesn't want closure, it wants to keep the property and house as a memento, as a focal point. Btw the max igan video on the topic is quite good. He thinks something definitely happened which am inclined to believe. However am also guessing that it's quite likely fake events have been publicised and accepted before, so it is possible that this case falls in that realm. Re: guns being reported in connection with Nathaniel Train. You'd think the local police would of been informed of that before going to check up on his missing persons report. Unless it's common that people in the country would have or could have weapons (to hunt). In that case if both brothers were seasoned hunters, you'd think they'd have shot all of the police (sorry if that sounds macabre). Some reports say they were smoking meth (which am not convinced of), so maybe they hadn't slept for a while and were not really operating efficiently (luckily). Edited December 20, 2022 by RidgyDidgy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 20, 2022 Share Posted December 20, 2022 (edited) This looks to me 1st and foremost to be the government's doing, the government is responsible for all the deaths without question. No further investigation is required. This is a direct result of the covid hoax and the shit-reset. The government stole 2 of the people's livelihoods, traumatized them, attempted to restrict their freedom of movement, and popularizes through nonstop propaganda (mind control) the idea that those who see through the hoax are insane and automatically a "threat" to everyone else, either because of a "germ contageon", or because of some demonized political label attached to them. So, these people could see the insanity and evil consciousness that was relentlessly imposing an artificial will upon the population of the world, and they could see where it was heading. Add to that past murderous operations by governments against their own populations, and their near constant warmongering and war-making against other nations. Who in their right mind would recognize any legitimacy or submit in ANY way to this kind of so-called "authority"? That FALSELY claims to serve the public = disinformation of the highest order. In truth a self-serving egoic entity. They behave like cancer. Who can overlook the deceits and violence of these entities? Those are their operating principles. The government drove them into a corner, left them no choices but to submit, defend themselves, or commit suicide (all this long before the event). The government "sacrificed" those young officers; probably some agency or individual in the government got information about the Trains and their state of mind; and saw an opportunity to exploit those unhappy individuals for political profit in service to the larger worldwide agenda. They knew. And the government knew they knew. Even if it were an ambush(which I don't believe), unfortunately, in war killing is kind of "normal" and expected? There might be risk in "death" or injury to participants in war?, even if they're too dense and mind-controlled to know they are participants/instruments of war. And that's what this is. I don't blame them either way. The media and politicians are the most dispicable hypocrites on the planet. JUST STAY THE FUCK AWAY FROM ME! I don't mind exiting this thing any time. Edited December 20, 2022 by novymir 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgyDidgy Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 (edited) re ambush, they wearing camouflage. which means they must of been prepared, as it's unlikely they would wear camouflage every day. Also the house from media reports, lacked any sign of being lived in, so why would they of just been there a week or so, living basically, then visited by police. Had the house been visited before by police? Is it just bad luck that in the first week of being back at that place they are visited by police? At this stage it looks like reports and information about what occurred on the day of the shooting have dried up and the media has moved on to talking about political implications (implementing a national gun registry. qld police buying the property) and covering the memorials, with lots of stuff from relatives and friends about the victims. And before those topics they've mostly covered the conspiratorial angle and had 'experts' talking about the mindsets of conspriacy theorists. Btw has anyone seen any of the videos mentioned in this article ? https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/16/queensland-shooting-gareth-and-stacey-train-youtube-video-published-after-killing-police Edited December 21, 2022 by RidgyDidgy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RidgyDidgy Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 this article refers to the shooters claiming police visited their property. Now the suggestion they had only been at the property for only a week before hand seems wrong.. https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2022/dec/16/queensland-shooting-gareth-and-stacey-train-youtube-video-published-after-killing-police 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 "Police had been visiting the address amid serious concerns for Nathaniel Train’s welfare, after the former school principal had recently been reported as missing by his estranged wife. This led Gareth Train to fire off a series of threatening messages to his sister-in-law.". https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/former-school-principal-stacey-train-revealed-as-female-accomplice-in-wieambilla-police-shootout/news-story/55bd828204315cd24e8ca20fbcd76850 Hmm. Rhetorical question; what does "estranged" mean??? And they had been "visiting" previously, as in multiple "visits"... Probably, they were dissatisfied with the responses or unresponsiveness by the property owner concerning those "visits"? Otherwise why would they keep "visiting", based on an "estranged wife's" "concern" about Nathaniel's "welfare"...what kind of things was she telling the police about him? Did she contact police first, or did the police contact her first...maybe about an ongoing investigation about a border breaching and guns...? +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ “They had barbed wire and gates and fences around the property too – that’s normal on rural properties like these, but they had surveillance cameras and spotlights and things like that which was a bit out of the ordinary back then.” https://www.news.com.au/national/queensland/crime/former-school-principal-stacey-train-revealed-as-female-accomplice-in-wieambilla-police-shootout/news-story/55bd828204315cd24e8ca20fbcd76850 Yeah, that means; "KEEP OUT!" +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ I suspect the cops didn't like that idea. (when we say "jump!"---you JUMP!). ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Looks kind of like a little Waco Massacre to me. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ The only way to frame this is in light of the MASS MURDERING COVID HOAX, everything else the "authorities" are saying about it is meaningless drivel, self-serving drivel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted December 21, 2022 Share Posted December 21, 2022 This seems to be the last video they posted before being shot to death: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 22, 2022 Share Posted December 22, 2022 This is critical information that will probably be forgotten or glossed over by "authorities". I wouldn't be surprised to see this report scrubbed from the internet. "Four Queensland officers went to the Wieambilla property to look for missing NSW man Nathaniel Train at 4.30pm on Tuesday after a request from interstate police. The 46-year-old, his brother Gareth Train, 47, and Gareth's wife Stacey Train, 45, opened fire on the officers after they jumped a fence.". https://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/what-emerged-after-police-officers-neighbour-killed-in-rural-queensland/5i393u4ub If the Trains set them up they would have left the gate open. There has been a repeated sentence; "he was the bait" published in most of the reports, "he" being Nathaniel, propagating the idea of "evil" premeditation by the residents of the fenced property. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 (edited) "Officers were following up an outstanding warrant relating to firearms and a border breach by shooter Nathaniel Train, as well as a missing person report, when they attended the Wieambilla property last week, Deputy Commissioner Tracy Linford said. The warrant related to a border breach from December 2021 when Train illegally crossed the Queensland-NSW border gate in a 4WD carrying loaded guns and military knives." https://www.msn.com/en-au/news/australia/queensland-police-reveal-officers-were-following-up-warrant-for-nathaniel-train-as-counter-terrorism-teams-assist-investigation/ar-AA15xK01 Yeah, a warrant for a ficticious COVID-HOAX crime. He/they had never harmed nor violated anyone's rights. But the guns...oh do they want them guns. Criminally insane government...makes up insane "laws", and everyone is expected to abide by them....or else...(Might Makes Right!). COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. COVID IS A HOAX. Edited December 23, 2022 by novymir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 Max igan discusses this in his latest vid: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RYkc6amlTrO4/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted January 5 Share Posted January 5 On 12/23/2022 at 1:06 PM, Macnamara said: Max igan discusses this in his latest vid: https://www.bitchute.com/video/RYkc6amlTrO4/ Yeah, he was also calling out a probable false-flag right after he left in 2021. https://odysee.com/@januszkowalskii1979:e/(Max-Igan)-The-Truth-about-Coming-False-Flag-in-Australia:5 I am pretty well convinced they were going to set him up for a hard fall, and he got out of there just in time. He pulled a Neo on them.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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