Another post on the fall of man

[PH196]

This reality seems to be a counterfeit of true reality.

Why? It reflects death rather than life. Man, in this fallen state, is not the child of God but is the child of the Devil. Christ was sent to call the soul out from the unreal (death) to life, and to do this he had to overcome the serpent's mind (the mind of Satan) which is the cause of all mortal propagation and death. The Devil was a murderer and a liar from the beginning when he rebelled against God as life, and this mortal creation is the unfoldment of the minds of the fallen angels into consciousness. It is not-life (death).

 

The means by which this "Adam man" is conceived and brought into existence is anti-spiritual and contrary to God's spiritual universe and His spiritual laws. As God is the real life, spirit and light of the universe - the Absence of God in mind and thought - must be death, matter and darkness. This is the state of mind of those fallen beings, and this mortal creation is the manifestation of their minds.

 

“Jesus said unto them, If God were your father ye would love me; for I proceeded forth and came from God; neither came I of myself, but he sent me. Why do ye not understand my speech? Even because ye cannot hear my word. Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning and abode not in truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie he speaketh of his own; for he is a liar and the father of it. And because I tell you the truth you believe me not. Which of you convinceth me of sin? And if I say the Truth, why do you not believe me? He that is of God hearth God’s words; you therefore hear them not, because you are not of God.” John 8:41-47

 

Here the Master compares and represents the state of the fallen angel to be at enmity with God's spiritual kingdom, "a murderer from the beginning" - and that he rebelled against the truth of God's spiritual kingdom and that when he speaketh he speaketh a lie and that he speaketh his own for he is a liar and the father of liars; and that the physical man which is created by the law of lust is his child and offspring and partakes of his nature, and is in rebellion against God. Sex-lust is the "Babbler" and the serpent that deceived Eve - and all Mortal Conception is of Sex-lust - the mind and thoughts of the Devil - the Fallen Spirits.

 

This father of liars, who is a fallen spirit, and is in rebellion against God's spiritual kingdom, is represented in the power of the flesh - the sex of the mortal creation - and the material man; and his evil personality is personified in the essence of lust by which the physical man is conceived and generated.

 

"And the seventy returned again with joy, saying, Lord, even the devils are subject unto us through thy name. And he said unto them: I beheld Satan as lightning fall from heaven." Luke 1:7 to 8:2. Here we see the Apostles and the Fathers of the Early Church cast out devils in the name of the Christ - cast out the sex - the power of the flesh from the mind - by the power of the spirit. That is, they were in such perfect harmony with God's spiritual kingdom and had such perfect control over the flesh, that they healed and cured the lame and the sick.

The Master cured the infirmities of the flesh - the sickness of the physical man - which sickness and infirmities are but the power of the evil of the angels that rebelled against Heaven.

 

The "casting out of devils" of course, represents the power of the spiritual man over the physical man - the power of good over evil - the mind of lust - the power of God over the fallen angels who rebelled against His kingdom.

 

God is good, God is perfect; God is Love, God is light and God is life. The spiritual creatures who were members of His spiritual kingdom and rebelled against God and His spiritual universe - and were cast out, of course, became the opposite of all that which God is - darkness, evil, the mind of lust, sickness and death - and the power of these fallen angels is represented in the physical man conceived in passion and lust.

 

Mortal conception and propagation is of the flesh - the serpent - the mind of the fallen angels and is death. When man ceases to sin, he will cease to propagate, and he will cease to die; but as long as man continues to sin, he will continue to propagate, and spiritual death will be the result; and a new spiritual birth will be necessary in order for the soul to see God.

 

The angels abode not in the truth - they abode not in the image of God and ceased to reflect God as life; and were cast out of God's presence as life, and all of this creation is propagated through their minds, which is sin and death. God is the only life.

 

The spiritual man having been manifested in the flesh by the law of lust took into his spiritual consciousness the attributes of the carnal mind and the fallen angels and therefore was out of harmony with God's spiritual nature, and could not live up to the attributes of God's spiritual kingdom. He was condemned under the law: He had within his spiritual consciousness the attributes of lust of the fleshly man. The Christ having been manifested in the flesh, without lust, remained in perfect harmony with God's spiritual kingdom and had all the spiritual attributes of God's spiritual nature and triumphed over the fleshly man.

 

[Mr H]

I think the fall of man story is depicting god's choice to have the human experience led by the egoic mind.It is a pathway "in the game" a reminder if you will, for god to find his way back to himself from the human experience when he feels lost.

 

As for God being good. I don't think God is good or bad. Good and bad only exist in mind, and mind is exclusive to human experience which we superimpose onto all experience. If we apply the normal qualities of a god for example, such as omnipresence, that God is all things and everywhere, then he must also be the things and people we human minds call evil. Evil can only exist if good exists and vis a versa - which is all part of the human duality game. And if you wish to get rid of evil you will also have to get rid of good In his essence, God is non dual and these things don't really exist. We always have the choice and opportunity to rest in God's natural being.

Edited November 30, 2022 by Mr H