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I wonder if Russia has absolute proof/evidence where the missiles were fired from and intelligence realised?

 

I find it interesting it hit a grain store of all places. MSM photos showing a barn charred from the explosion yet the grain spilling out in the background unburnt!

 

Interesting

 

 

 

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33 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said:

I wonder if Russia has absolute proof/evidence where the missiles were fired from and intelligence realised?

 

I find it interesting it hit a grain store of all places. MSM photos showing a barn charred from the explosion yet the grain spilling out in the background unburnt!

 

Interesting

 

 

 

 

NATO admits it was Ukrainian missile that hit Poland, but blames Russia anyway, soooooooo, discuss.

 

 

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A few days ago it was reported Russian troops had been forced out of Kherson, which is a strategically important city in the far south of a huge country. If we are to believe that, why would Russia be wasting time bombing the strategically unimportant far west - and in effect fighting a war on multiple fronts?

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10 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

A few days ago it was reported Russian troops had been forced out of Kherson, which is a strategically important city in the far south of a huge country. If we are to believe that, why would Russia be wasting time bombing the strategically unimportant far west - and in effect fighting a war on multiple fronts?

 

The first casualty of any conflict is the Truth, so we have to try and discern things that are not said, as that is where the real news is, the question therefore is, why would NATO make this claim saying it was Ukrainian missile, if we look at the whole thing, surely this plays into NATO's hand, but we have to remember this is not just a conflict on the ground and the horrors that go with it, this is a battle for your mind, i think many people in the so called 'west' see this conflict as an extension of convid, and just like convid also 'see' the absolute wickedness of those that caused it, i think NATO just woke up to the realisation that the people they say they represent in the so called 'west' are not with them, Trump, and what he said last night is a huge factor to take into account, they know the outrageous rigging of elections has taken place in the USA, it is blatantly obvious, and Brazil is having none of it either, you can not start and fight a war without the people you allegedly represent, behind you, or you will go down in history as an EPIC FAIL ON A SCALE NEVER BEFORE WITNESSED, your move MSM!!!

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

Putin was after Poland as well.


l'd be extremely shocked  if this were true.
Any incursion into Poland is immediate WW3 as it's a NATO country.
lf Russia does strike and / or invade Poland then the whole thing is definitely scripted beyond any doubt.
 

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Seems that some Polish are seeing clearly..

 

Missile incident was Ukrainian ‘provocation’ – Polish politician

Former Lublin council chair Jaroslaw Pakula said Warsaw should rethink its stance on the conflict 

Poland should rethink its position towards the conflict in Ukraine after a “provocation” on the part of Kiev that cost two villagers their lives, a former city councilman in Lublin said on Wednesday. Jaroslaw Pakula, whose term ended four days before the incident, said the missile that struck Przewodow was obviously Ukrainian and that the government in Warsaw needed to send a message to Kiev instead of telling “fairy tales” to its citizens.
 

“Of course, this is a Ukrainian rocket. Of course, this is a provocation on the part of the Ukrainian authorities,” Pakula posted on his Facebook page. “The rocket could not be fired 100km in the opposite direction by mistake.” 
 

The purpose of the provocation was to scare the EU and get civil society support for sending even more weapons to Ukraine, Pakula added. Instead of telling “fairy tales” about the missile, the Polish president should tell Ukraine’s Vladimir Zelensky that Warsaw “will no longer put up with this behavior” by Kiev. 

 

“I urge you to rethink Poland’s position [regarding] this war in the event that the red line is crossed again!” Pakula concluded.

Pakula’s Facebook page still has a Ukrainian flag over his portrait photo, and lists him as chairman of the city council of Lublin, the seat of the region where Przewodow is located. The official city website, however, notes that he was no longer in office as of November 11. 

Zelensky was quick to accuse Russia of attacking Poland and the entire NATO after a missile exploded in Przewodow on Tuesday afternoon, killing two people. The government in Kiev said the incident showed the need for NATO to 
“close the sky” over Ukraine, as they have demanded since February. 
 

While Zelensky continues to insist the missile was Russian, Warsaw and Moscow have both identified it as a S-300 air defense missile, with Poland calling it “Russian-made” and Russia pointing out it was in Ukrainian service. The US and NATO have also described the missile as an air defense rocket that strayed, seeking to minimize the incident while also arguing that Russia was the ultimate culprit for bombing Ukraine in the first place. 
 

The Russian military has pointed out that Tuesday’s missile strikes on Ukrainian military and energy infrastructure targets came nowhere close to the Polish border. 

https://www.rt.com/news/566656-poland-lublin-ukraine-missile/ 
 

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5 hours ago, legion said:

l'd be extremely shocked  if this were true.
Any incursion into Poland is immediate WW3 as it's a NATO country.
lf Russia does strike and / or invade Poland then the whole thing is definitely scripted beyond any doubt.

 

There is an indication elsewhere that preparation is happening quietly.

 

You see, now that the Queen is no longer here, the UK is at its weakest IF the other enemy wants to snatch the battle.

The battle being light against darkness or dakrness against darkness...... who knows at this stage!?

 

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1 hour ago, DaleP said:

now that the Queen is no longer here, the UK is at its weakest

 

Who cares about the Queen.... Only egoistic pagentry and collusion with pseudo political Patriarchy of Monarch Legacy feature there. Queen might as well have been a porn star for all I care.

 

Weakened in whose name or egoistic complex are we talking about?

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@legion

If you search Charles A Richard, you'll see that all media received the press release and singing from the same hymn sheet.

Ukrain is just warming up.

 

"The Big One is cominggggg!"

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11392369/The-big-one-coming-Stratcom-commander-warns-lagging-China-tested.html

 

Point No.1 - According to the history, when China announces that they are going to do something, they tend to do it before the promised date.

Point No.2 - US don't have a defense satellite until 2027 which means that China could potentially attack US satellites which will disable all the GPS hence the military operation could be made incapable to fight back. Surely China would want to take advantage of such circumstance?

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6 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

There is an indication elsewhere that preparation is happening quietly.

 

They'll be getting ready for the worst case scenario. That's the militaries job unfortunately. 

 

But in doing that there's the danger of the slightest small event (real / fake / imagined) triggering a huge and unwarranted escalation. 

 

Only time will tell if this is scripted or not. 

 

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So here's another take on things... not starting to look so clear-cut now is it?

 

https://uk.news.yahoo.com/russia-says-strikes-ukraine-were-092857856.html

 

https://www.rt.com/russia/566686-zelensky-missile-incident-poland/

 

and this from Reuters...

 

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-hails-chinas-opposition-nuclear-threats-2022-11-15/

 

(Excerpt from the article)

NATO ambassadors held emergency talks on Wednesday to respond to Tuesday's blast at a grain facility in Poland, near the Ukrainian border, the war's first deadly extension into the territory of the Western alliance.

However, Polish President Andrzej Duda said the missile appeared to be a Soviet-made S-300 rocket most likely fired accidentally "by Ukrainian anti-aircraft defence", not by Russia. Russia and Ukraine both use the missile.

NATO's chief said Russia, not Ukraine, was still to blame for starting the war with its February invasion and launching scores of missiles on Tuesday that triggered Ukrainian defences.

"This is not Ukraine's fault. Russia bears ultimate responsibility as it continues its illegal war against Ukraine," Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg told reporters in Brussels.

Nevertheless, Zelenskiy said "I have no doubt that it was not our missile", based on reports from Ukraine's military which the president said he "cannot but trust". An adviser to the Polish president said Ukraine was likely to get access to the site of the blast that it has requested.

U.S. President Joe Biden disputed Zelenskiy's assertion that the missile was not Ukrainian, telling reporters at the White House on Thursday: "That's not the evidence."

Moscow had denied responsibility. Russia's Foreign Ministry said the "mayhem" around accusations of Russian involvement in the blast were "part of a systematic anti-Russian campaign by the West".

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