World Cup

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

37 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Which Henry moment do you mean? Jog my memory

Deliberate handball to control the ball and send it to the man who scored the winner? Henry was a nasty piece of work but the London press fawned all over him.

[webtrekker]

From a Telegram post ...

 

 

 

️Why taking the knee before kick off like the England team does is an absolutely meaningless virtue signalling empty gesture.

When Kaepernick started this, it was during the national anthem. This is what it meant to him:

 

 

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"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder. ..."

 

So you see: it is a protest against the central national government, as represented by flag and anthem.

 

Whether you agree with it or not, there is a clear desire to protest against central government power and that is why it is meant to be done DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM.

 

The England team instead, stands during the national anthem, ducking the responsibility of protesting the flag as representation of power that comes with taking the knee, and instead they take the knee before kick off. This is a cowardly and meaningless gesture: if you are going to take the knee, then do it properly DURING THE NATIONAL ANTHEM, or if you have not got the balls or inclination to do it during the anthem then don't do it all.

 

Your sugar coated version of taking the knee after the anthem but before kick off is a cowardly cop out and a meaningless gesture of nothingness, it is not the protest taking the knee was meant to be.

 

 

 

[Athenry04]

I have the feeling the knee takers will be given the WC this year.

[Saved]

5 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

 

Henry was a sublime player and a winner. The thing about winners is that they often have it in them to win at all costs.

 

Maradona was another, remembered as much for his instinctive cheating against England as he was a winner at Barcelona, Napoli and Argentina.

 

Sport isn't important in the great scheme of things but despite the expression 'being a good sport' I'd want to be remembered as a winner if I'd found myself in that world. Winners are driven. This is why I would order my players to take Mbappe out with a series of non red card challenges - otherwise known as 'professional fouls'. That expression says it all really, more or less admitting that it's a part of the profession and expected by anybody calling themselves a professional footballer.

 

I doubt that Southgate has it in him to inspire or coax out whatever winning mentalities are in the England squad. He's shown that already on more than one occasion (Croatia and Italy). He only got the England job because of the Fat Sam scandal, having failed with Boro and failed with the England kids. He was fast tracked for the Boro job without the necessary coaching badge! He was forced to go and get one before he was allowed to manage them after complaints were raised by other managers who had legitimately worked their way into managerial positions.

 

If England are to win the world cup it will be in spite of Southgate. Moments of outrageous skill from the likes of Bellingham and Foden; perhaps a series of world class saves from Pickford.

 

The thing about Southgate, if you look at his route to the top, is that he has undoubtedly been groomed to be the man to wilfully push political and socially engineered agendas. He showed his complete lack of integrity in that pizza advert that ritually humiliated him in front of tens of millions - after bottling a penalty against ze Germans. He revelled in that role without a hint of self respect.

 

He declared that he would do anything asked of him - the perfect manager to get those English lads down on one knee 

[Athenry04]

19 hours ago, Saved said:

Henry was a sublime player and a winner. The thing about winners is that they often have it in them to win at all costs.

 

Maradona was another, remembered as much for his instinctive cheating against England as he was a winner at Barcelona, Napoli and Argentina.

 

Sport isn't important in the great scheme of things but despite the expression 'being a good sport' I'd want to be remembered as a winner if I'd found myself in that world. Winners are driven. This is why I would order my players to take Mbappe out with a series of non red card challenges - otherwise known as 'professional fouls'. That expression says it all really, more or less admitting that it's a part of the profession and expected by anybody calling themselves a professional footballer.

 

I doubt that Southgate has it in him to inspire or coax out whatever winning mentalities are in the England squad. He's shown that already on more than one occasion (Croatia and Italy). He only got the England job because of the Fat Sam scandal, having failed with Boro and failed with the England kids. He was fast tracked for the Boro job without the necessary coaching badge! He was forced to go and get one before he was allowed to manage them after complaints were raised by other managers who had legitimately worked their way into managerial positions.

 

If England are to win the world cup it will be in spite of Southgate. Moments of outrageous skill from the likes of Bellingham and Foden; perhaps a series of world class saves from Pickford.

 

The thing about Southgate, if you look at his route to the top, is that he has undoubtedly been groomed to be the man to wilfully push political and socially engineered agendas. He showed his complete lack of integrity in that pizza advert that ritually humiliated him in front of tens of millions - after bottling a penalty against ze Germans. He revelled in that role without a hint of self respect.

 

He declared that he would do anything asked of him - the perfect manager to get those English lads down on one knee 

 

If England win imo, it's because it's in the script.

[Anti Facts Sir]

20 hours ago, Saved said:

Henry was a sublime player and a winner. The thing about winners is that they often have it in them to win at all costs.

 

Maradona was another, remembered as much for his instinctive cheating against England as he was a winner at Barcelona, Napoli and Argentina.

Yeah, same with F1....look at Verstappen....even with the championship won, and in 7th place going round the final race, he wouldn't let his team-mate go past to get the extra point to seal 2nd in the final table. That's ruthless. Schumacher was apparently the same type.

 

I dunno, I suppose cos I'm not like that and don't admire that, I have a problem with win-at-all-cost types. Same in the cricket...a dead rubber between the England and India women this summer was ruined cos one of the Indians did a "mankad" on the English girl with only 16 runs left to win. She ran her out at the striker's end and that was it. Game over. People were furious but it's not against the rules (ridiculously). Indians didn't care, especially the one who did it. They'd won the match. It's all that mattered. Fuck the spirit of the game and what everyone will think about you. The bad blood it causes. Win.

[Mr Crabtree]

On 12/4/2022 at 11:56 PM, Athenry04 said:

I have the feeling the knee takers will be given the WC this year.

When Billy Shears A.K.A. Paul McCartney divorced Heather Mills he was asked by a junior reporter if there was a chance that he would ever 'go down on one knee' again in the future?

He said, 'No fucking way pal, and please have the decency to call her Heather'! Good old Billy, stick to your guns mate!

[TheConsultant]

Holy shit Morocco  

[Anti Facts Sir]

Morocco to win the whole thing?

 

Would further a few agendas.

[Mr H]

Both Morocco and Portugal were excellent today.....

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

That Portugal goal was measured at 100kph. It looked an absolute screamer in real time.

[Observations]

On 12/4/2022 at 5:30 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63849076

 

I read that article and then I read this one. I enjoyed the diplomacy in the comments of the Qatar World Cup chief, Hassan Al-Thawadi. Its been a long time since I've read something like that! 

 

"We might not see eye-to-eye on everything, we might not agree on everything. There are some things we will not agree upon. "But there is more than unites us, we have more common ground, and we need to find that common ground to find a way of saying, 'Let us find a way of co-existing and moving forward'. "That is where mutual respect is fundamental."

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/63785482

 

The article also says that our sports minister is gay, I didn't realise that, he wore the armband to the Wales game. 

[Athenry04]

Seen the number '26' around a lot lately, think it might be telling us it's England's turn, e.g. 26 years since that fucking coming home song was released. Dillian Whyte also wore a number 26 on the back of an England shirt at the weigh in for his fight with Jermaine Franklyn last week, it was his way of telling those in the know he was winning, which he did, despite looking like shit and could well have lost on the scorecards.

 

Queen  = 62 26 in Gematria

 

We'll see.

[Anti Facts Sir]

Oh christ, Southgate would be untouchable if that happened. If he isn't already approaching sainthood for his services to "external noise".

 

[spideysensei]

Still going with Argentina/Portugal final. Portugal to beat England in semis, they're smarter on the whole i think and it'll give them the edge.

If Southgate wins the WC then fair play, it's not easy and he clearly has some grasp of the game. Half the battle as a manager is getting your players to play

for you, so if you have woke players, they're more likely to perform their best under a woke manager than say Ron Atkinson.

[Anti Facts Sir]

Yeah none of them ugly balls. Especially down the channel. Might hit some migrants.

[spideysensei]

Problem is now he's in the zone where he's done just enough to not get sacked, but still untested against a strong team.

[Anti Facts Sir]

6 minutes ago, spideysensei said:

Problem is now he's in the zone where he's done just enough to not get sacked, but still untested against a strong team.

 

What? We've beaten Iran, wales and Senegal. Mighty forces in the football world. And managed to hold off the powerful USA, who thrashed Iran 1-0 and got easily beaten by Holland. Then there were home and away defeats to Hungary, a 3-2 lead thrown away against the Germany team who failed to get out of their group at this world cup.

 

He's passing every test put before him. Sadly, that doesn't involved actual match results. But nice one with the "external noise". #1 for gay armbands, photo sessions with migrant workers and taking the knee more than anyone else.

 

As you were.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

 

Cenk is unhappy. Today was a good day.

[Anti Facts Sir]

Croatia v Morocco final?

[EnigmaticWorld]

I have a strange feeling that "England" might do it, then I won't hear the end of it. France surely won't be easy though, but I'm not sure what their form is like at the moment.

[bamboozooka]

france are still a class act

i cant see england doing it. they bottle under pressure.

 

[legion]

6 hours ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I have a strange feeling that "England" might do it, then I won't hear the end of it. France surely won't be easy though, but I'm not sure what their form is like at the moment.

 

3 hours ago, bamboozooka said:

france are still a class act

i cant see england doing it. they bottle under pressure.

 

 

England will cream them. 

Recently leaked tactics :

 

( if the French see this and copy, then the score will be a draw at 

100,000 : 100,000 ) 

 

 

Edited December 10, 2022 by legion

[spideysensei]

My partner makes gagging sounds when the commentators constantly big up Messi, but he does produce the goods. The change of pace/close control to open up the space to make that exquisite pass for the first goal was sublime. That's why he's the best.

[Saved]

Argentina reinforcing my earlier point of winners winning at all costs. They were the nasty of formerly successful sides. Two should have been sent off (including Messi) but either the Spanish ref lost count or a South American team had to get through at all costs, seeing as Brazil had already gone and advertising revenue would have taken an immense hit with a huge audience switching off in the most passionate hotbed of fans in world football.

 

I'd be aggrieved if I was Dutch.

 

As for England, I can't see the players winning three big games on the bounce under Southgate's instruction. Perhaps if the players are allowed to express themselves in that final third and aren't restrained by overly defensive midfield duties, they'd have an evens chance against that dodgy French defence.

 

If England do go out I hope it's utter humiliation and not because of a bad referring decision. I don't want any national sympathy going Southgate's way.