The Original Lords Prayer

[pi3141]

17 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

As much respect and love as I have for DI, he is not 100% correct on everything, he is human after all and as such prone to error. The symbol for the sun is still alive and well in the Vatican, Gog and Dagon which is where the popes hat comes from (which I said was magog a while back because I am also a human, twat and fuck stuff up). Sun worship is hidden in what we call Christianity and it all relates to Ancient Egypt and a cult currently pulling strings in far too many peoples lives. Nothing to do with a person who was called Jesus as far as I am aware. The Swastika is another symbol for the sun dontcha know, as is the celtic cross amongst other things which I believe all have the same origins being at least ancient egypt if not before.

 

Yes I agree with all that you said but Truthblast and Macnamara are saying people like you, and I, and presumably DI, who question orthodox Christianity, have personality defects, are moral reletavists and seek to encourage pedophilia.

 

I want proof of this assertion.

Edited December 3, 2022 by pi3141

[TheConsultant]

8 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yes I agree with all that you said but Truthblast and Macnamara are saying people like you, and I, and presumably DI, who question orthodox Christianity, have personality defects, are moral reletavists and seek to encourage pedophilia.

 

I want proof of this assertion.

I question everything not just Christianity, orthodox or not. Build a foundation of understanding by not being fixed in my thinking about anything, I didnt come to this forum to discuss religion at all but some of the discussions and views are fascinating. 

Are they making that distinction?  It seems to be some questionable sources in their minds rather than the act of questioning it is encouraging pedophilia? 

Edited December 3, 2022 by TheConsultant

[kj35]

It's interesting.  If you put yourself in a position where you are responsible for the whole world and without some semblance of order anarchy breaks out and murder and violent disorder runs everything, which appears to me to be where most humans devolve to without external moral pressure then how do you control the world?  Religion has been useful so has moral blackmail, same thing.

Edited December 3, 2022 by kj35

[Macnamara]

3 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Which is exactly what I write yet @Macnamara says I 'rashly' seek to support certain views yet my views coincide with DI's?

 

Answers please @Macnamara and @Truthblast

 

no i said the people behind these agendas are trying to normalise pedophilia

 

for example you'll get people throwing food onto works of art they claim to 'combat manmade climate change' but are each of those people full blown conspirators with a seat at the top table of the incoming technocracy? No of course not. They will just be what the soviets used to call 'useful idiots'

 

the important thing to understand is that all of these things are connected. The people behind the roll out of the covid bioweapon jabs are, at the top of the conspiracy, the same people behind the woke agenda and the same people behind the trans agenda and the same people behind the central banks and the same people behind mass immigration etc and THOSE conspirators want to destroy christianity and normalise pedophilia and institute a totalitarian technocracy

 

Its all coming from the same cabal

Edited December 3, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

7 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

So what do you think of David Icke?

 

He's spent the last 20 and more years deconstructing Christendom.

 

I didn't realise you held such strong Christian views, which church do you attend, what Bible do you study?

 

lol

 

david knows fine well that the cabal is undermining christianity. Does that mean that david is a christian? No of course not. It just means that he is honest about what is self-evidently happening in the world:

Church of England bows to the State (as always) as Salisbury Cathedral used for the fake ‘vaccination’ to the sound of organ music – ‘Onward Christian “soldiers” marching to the door … with capitulation going on before.’ (PS – the same force behind the fake ‘vaccine’ is also working to destroy Christianity – Zzzzzz)

https://davidicke.com/2021/01/19/church-of-england-bows-to-the-state-as-always-as-salisbury-cathedral-used-for-the-fake-vaccination-to-the-sound-of-organ-music-onward-christian-soldiers-marching-to-the-door-with-cap/

[Macnamara]

8 hours ago, pi3141 said:

OK, well perhaps you can give me some names of those you have investigated and found to be moral reletavists.

 

The Pritzker family is of Jewish descent,^[2] and based in Chicago, Illinois

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pritzker_family

The Billionaire Family Pushing Synthetic Sex Identities (SSI)

The wealthy, powerful, and sometimes very weird Pritzker cousins have set their sights on a new God-like goal: using gender ideology to remake human biology

by Jennifer Bilek

June 14, 2022

One of the most powerful yet unremarked-upon drivers of our current wars over definitions of gender is a concerted push by members of one of the richest families in the United States to transition Americans from a dimorphic definition of sex to the broad acceptance and propagation of synthetic sex identities (SSI). Over the past decade, the Pritzkers of Illinois, who helped put Barack Obama in the White House and include among their number former U.S. Secretary of Commerce Penny Pritzker, current Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker, and philanthropist Jennifer Pritzker, appear to have used a family philanthropic apparatus to drive an ideology and practice of disembodiment into our medical, legal, cultural, and educational institutions.

read on here https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/billionaire-family-pushing-synthetic-sex-identities-ssi-pritzkers

 

[Macnamara]

zionist sabbateans 'seek to destroy christianity'......yes and they also created the covid bioweaon jabs and they also run backrock and the central banks and they are also seeking to subvert our previously christian society through cultural marxist policies (death by a thousand cuts)

Posted by Gareth Icke - memes and headline comments by David Icke Posted on 5 October 2020

Israeli police clash with Covid-19 lockdown-defying ultra-Orthodox Jews – the people running your country are not Jews and they are seeking to destroy your religion as they seek to destroy Christianity

https://davidicke.com/2020/10/05/israeli-police-clash-with-covid-19-lockdown-defying-ultra-orthodox-jews-the-people-running-your-country-are-not-jews-and-they-are-seeking-to-destroy-your-religion-as-they-seek-to-destroy-christianit/

[pi3141]

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

The Pritzker family is of Jewish descent,^[2] and based in Chicago, Illinois

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pritzker_family

 

 

And they are Bible researchers and revisionists? 

 

What are their works?

[Campion]

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

zionist sabbateans 'seek to destroy christianity'..

 

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

the people running your country are not Jews

 

Mac, I can follow your theory to some extent but get a bit stuck. If the sabbateans running the conspiracy are Zionists but not Jews, then what in a nutshell is their philosophy? 

 

It's clear to me that organised religion has been used throughout history to either unify or divide people and countries, depending on the agenda.  Christianity in the west has been declining for generations, to some extent that's due to people's desire for freedom of choice not just agitation from conspirators. And now the white churches hardly bother to fight back and have been used as the butt of jokes in so many comedies that they aren't taken seriously, unlike the religions which do stand their ground such as Islam and orthodox Jews. 

 

Have you considered the possibility that our western European Christianity is too used to turning the other cheek and isn't up to the job of defending our civilisation against cabals and other threats? Do you think our survival depends on us reforming and returning to some form of Christian church? Or should we look to other ways of anchoring and organising our shared culture? 

 

Some versions of the conspiracy say that the introduction of Christianity was itself a plot to bring the territory of the Roman empire and beyond into the Abrahamic system and Noahide law as a form of mind control. If so, then aren't we better off either without it, or at least relegating it to just one religion no better than any other. It's the religion of the monarchy and aristocracy after all. 

Edited December 4, 2022 by Campion

[pi3141]

14 hours ago, Macnamara said:

The Pritzker family is of Jewish descent,^[2] 

 

I've read their Wiki page and there is no mention of them authoring any Bible related material.

 

Why bring them up as an answer?

 

Are you getting confused?

[pi3141]

On 11/29/2022 at 5:03 PM, Truthblast said:

But just in general, people who cannot or will not stick to the morals and ethics prescribed by the Abrahamic religions have ALWAYS tried to discredit the religions and religious texts in some way.

 

 

"Bla bla... this was wrong... bla bla... this was originally written like X instead..."

 

 

There is a whole group of supposed "Bible researchers" out there who believe that even Jesus didn't exist and was a made up character from the beginning.

 

 

All have a common personality defect though - they want to live in a boundlessly free world, and they see the Abrahamic morals and ethics as standing squarely in the way of that.

 

 

To which you agreed and embellished with this -

 

On 11/29/2022 at 7:19 PM, Macnamara said:

they are moral reletavists who want to normalise pedophilia

 

I am asking you and Truthblast for evidence. You must have researched this otherwise how could you make that claim?

 

So before you rashly answer, you need to provide names and evidence of Biblical researchers, preferably relevant to the sources I quote from, who are moral reletavists and encourage pedophilia.

 

Otherwise your and Truthblast's claim has no validity.

[Macnamara]

20 hours ago, pi3141 said:

And they are Bible researchers and revisionists? 

 

What are their works?

 

there is clearly a move on to destroy christianity and christmas. I can't understand why you would try and deny something so obvious?

Cancelling Christmas is SINISTER, says Neil Oliver

 

[Macnamara]

19 hours ago, Campion said:

Christianity in the west has been declining for generations

 

Mass immigration won't have helped...

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

there is clearly a move on to destroy christianity and christmas. I can't understand why you would try and deny something so obvious.

 

Once again you deflect and refuse to answer and try to twist the argument down a new avenue by accusing me of something I have not done.

 

I've seen this behavior from you before.

 

Where have I denied there are attacks on Christianity? - and once you've conceded I have not, then I will thank you to provide the evidence for your, and Truthblasts original claim, which you continually duck out of doing by posting irrelevant material and making false accusations.

Edited December 4, 2022 by pi3141

[Campion]

4 hours ago, Macnamara said:

Mass immigration won't have helped...

 

True enough. But when I think back to my younger days, the main thing which put me off religion was the church itself. Totally stuck in a rut and incapable of giving me a convincing experience of God or the sacred. Also in complete denial about modern Biblical scholarship and historical knowledge for at least 200years. 

 

Anyway, that's looking backwards. Looking at where we are now, I can't see many public institutions which are any help. This is a time of a great testing for us Brits. If the cabal is helping to destroy our now ineffective churches (which they foisted onto us 1500 years ago), there's a window of opportunity for us to seize the chance to create something better before the technocracy takes over. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

2 minutes ago, Campion said:

But when I think back to my younger days, the main thing which put me off religion was the church itself.

 

Most are too progressive and just not that appealing, and I say that as a Christian. Need more tradition.

 

 

[Macnamara]

17 hours ago, Campion said:

 

True enough. But when I think back to my younger days, the main thing which put me off religion was the church itself.

 

the long march through the institutions has filled the church with woke neo-marxists looking to 'reform' (destroy) the church

 

anglicanism full of freemasons

[Macnamara]

20 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

Once again you deflect and refuse to answer and try to twist the argument down a new avenue by accusing me of something I have not done.

 

I've seen this behavior from you before.

 

Where have I denied there are attacks on Christianity? - and once you've conceded I have not, then I will thank you to provide the evidence for your, and Truthblasts original claim, which you continually duck out of doing by posting irrelevant material and making false accusations.

 

just admit that christianity and christmas are under attack!

 

it's really not that hard to simply acknowledge that which is self-evidently true except when a person has an agenda in which case it sticks in their throat

 

 

[Macnamara]

On 11/29/2022 at 7:19 PM, Macnamara said:

they are moral reletavists who want to normalise pedophilia

 

it was christian abolitionists that ended slavery. The freemasons running the 'british empire' had no problem with using slavery. The fuggers were a powerful jewish family from the medieval period who were the rothschilds of their day and they were invested in slavery. Jews have been involved in slavery for thousands of years and muslims have been involved in the slave trade for as long as islam has existed.

 

None of those people stopped slavery. It was only christians that ended slavery. Just an interesting thing to note isn't it?

 

But instead of acknowledging this the woke crowd instead attack christianity which is ironic seeing as they are the ones speaking about slavery so much. Christianity supports the family which karl marx described as one of the building blocks of capitalism so the marxists hate the family and of course marx also attacked religion so the neo-marxists want christianity gone as well

 

I suspect that this move to destroy the family then opens the door for the state to normalise pedophilia so all the deviants out there are attacking christianity whilst supporting big government as they know that the sabbatean deviants such as the WEF globalists control the governments and will use those governments to push these agendas through despite the will of the people being against these things:

General Public Unaware of Push to Normalize Pedophilia in Culture and Academia: Counselor

Mom who hunts down pedophiles says its unthinkable to call them 'minor-attracted persons'

By Darlene McCormick Sanchez

December 3, 2022 Updated: December 5, 2022

Colorado mom Lydia Lerma feels punched when she hears the trendy new term “minor-attracted person.” Just thinking of the damage a pedophile inflicted upon her son, who was six at the time, causes pain.

Creating a polite-sounding term for someone sexually attracted to children enrages her.

Any push to normalize pedophilia or designate it as another sexual orientation to be tolerated is “unconscionable,” Lerma told The Epoch Times.

“That’s a bunch of [expletive]!” she said of academics pushing acceptance of pedophilia.

“They are going to face the greatest resistance that they have ever seen. Society is not going to let that happen.”

But in academic circles, some have begun to argue that pedophilia should be considered just another sexual orientation, not a mental disorder.

And a therapist who treats pedophiles told The Epoch Times that he believes pedophilia is on its way to becoming normalized.

‘Like Any Other Sexual Orientation’

In 2018, medical student Mirjam Heine, who said she had a background in psychology, gave a presentation called “Pedophilia is a Natural Sexual Orientation” during a TEDx event at the University of Würtzberg in Germany. A program guide for TEDx said she was mainly guided by the works of Prof. Dr. Klaus Michael Beier, the head of the institute for sexology and sexual medicine at the University Hospital Berlin, and the prevention network “Kein Täter Werden.”

In her remarks, Heine said pedophilia is an “unchangeable sexual orientation,” just like heterosexuality.

“No one chooses to be a pedophile; no one can cease being one,” Heine argued during her talk. “The difference between pedophilia and other sexual orientations is that living out this sexual orientation will end in a disaster.”

Most countries in the world, including the United States, outlaw adults having sexual contact or intercourse with children in most situations.

The term minor-attracted person grabbed headlines after professor Allyn Walker used it during a discussion on pedophiles in November 2021. Walker, a woman who transitioned to live as a man, was discussing her book: “A Long Dark Shadow: Minor-Attracted People and Their Pursuit of Dignity.

In the interview with the Prostasia Foundation—a San Francisco organization focused on child sexual abuse—Walker said it’s less stigmatizing to use the term minor-attracted person than pedophile when referring to people “who don’t act on their urges to have sex with children.”

The interview drew fiery criticism. Within weeks, Walker resigned from her job as an assistant sociology and criminal justice professor at Old Dominion University in Virginia.

After stepping down, Walker said in a prepared statement that her research was “mischaracterized” by some in the media. Walker blamed the public outcry on intolerance for her transgender identity and said the research aimed to prevent child sexual abuse.

Later, Johns Hopkins University hired Walker to work at the Moore Center for Prevention of Child Sexual Abuse in Baltimore. She did not immediately respond to an Epoch Times email through the Moore Center requesting comment.

American singer Cardi B is showcased as the face of the Balenciaga fashion brand on a billboard on a wall of the Louvre museum in Paris on Sept. 1, 2020. (Stephane De Sakutin/Getty Images)

Two former colleagues at Old Dominion defended Walker in the journal of the American Society of Criminology.

“Our friend and colleague, Dr. Allyn Walker, was the victim of a trolling attack on their research and their person that resulted in the loss of their position at Old Dominion University (ODU),” wrote Ruth Triplett and Mona Danner.

The attacks, they wrote, were “centering around misinformation and links to Dr. Walker’s identity as non-binary, transgender, and Jewish.”

Growing Cultural Acceptance

The fashion house Balenciaga faced backlash recently after running an ad campaign depicting little girls holding a Teddy bear wearing bondage gear. One ad shows pages from a child pornography court ruling. Balenciaga later apologized for the advert.

A November headline from a Washington Post theater review read: “‘Downstate’ is a play about pedophiles. It’s also brilliant.” The off-Broadway play characterizes pedophiles as complicated and troubled victims of harsh punishment.

Jon Uhler is a 30-year veteran counselor who has worked with sex offenders in the Pennsylvania and South Carolina prison systems. Throughout his career, he has assessed hundreds of pedophiles.

Jon Uhler, a therapist who interviews sex offenders in prison. (Courtesy of Jon Uhler)

Uhler, a member of the Association for Treatment of Sexual Abusers (ATSA), said he’s afraid pedophilia is on the road to normalization.

Sex offender treatment specialists are now trained to view sex offenders as victims of trauma, he said.

The idea is that pedophiles are reenacting their trauma by choosing a victim of the age they were when abused, Uhler said. But that’s not accurate, he added.

Researchers are taking information from interviews with pedophiles and considering it to be true,  instead of realizing they’re dealing with the “world’s greatest deceivers,” Uhler said.

Even so, Walker’s ideas have permeated sex offender treatment circles, he said. Walker spoke at this year’s ATSA conference.

Creating a Protected Class

Normalizing pedophilia ultimately could lead to a major cultural change—elevating pedophilia to a protected class.

“They are going to push to have it recognized as a sexual orientation, which would grant it civil rights status,” Uhler said.

If that happens, employers could no longer discriminate against pedophiles in areas such as employment, he said.

And if teens are given the legal right to decide if they want to have a sex-change operation or take hormones to try to appear as the other sex, that could help make it legal for pedophiles to act on their sexual urges, he predicted.

If children legally can decide what they can do with their bodies, then pedophiles could argue that they should be able to consent to a sexual relationship, he said.

“They’re jackals that are feeding off the carcasses of these kids,” he said. “The predator’s interest is ultimately lowering the age of consent.”

The general public doesn’t understand what is happening, he said. It’s one of the defining issues of our time, he added.

Scott Clark, a minister who teaches church history and historical theology at Westminster Seminary in California, has called the destigmatization of pedophilia the last stage of the “neo-pagan sexual revolution.”

Clark hosts the Heidelcast podcast and writes The Heidelblog. Both tackle religious and moral issues facing modern society.

“There’s a pretty obvious move to normalize pedophilia,” he said. “This invariably comes from adults. It’s not coming from children.”

Scott Clark is a minister and teaches church history and historical theology in California. (Photo courtesy of Scott Clark)

He feels researchers in academia are setting the final stage for a society in which there are no police, no prisons, and no stigma for being sexually attracted to children.

“It all goes back to our lack of connection to nature,” he said. “Once nature is gone, we no longer have boundaries, and all things are possible.”

The first stage of the sexual revolution occurred with the introduction of feminism. The second came with the legalization of abortion, which coincided with more women moving into the workforce, he said.

The third stage began in 2015 when the U.S. Supreme Court held in a 5–4 decision that the 14th Amendment required states to grant same-sex marriages.

Homosexuality had been considered a mental disorder until the American Psychiatric Association voted in 1973 to take it off the list. Clark said the decision was political, not scientific.

Pedophilia remains on the list of mental disorders, but Clark thinks it’s only a matter of time before the designation is removed.

“This is all just part of a long march to normalizing everything,” he said.

Like Uhler, Clark thinks the ultimate goal is to lower the age a minor can consent to sex.

“The culture is, in my view, descending into kind of a Dark Age,” Clark said.

Moving Toward Decriminalizing Pedophilia

Florida attorney Jeff Childers, who has fought against mask mandates and helped parents oppose sexualization in schools, said looking back at how homosexuality became recognized as an orientation may offer insight into what could happen.

Once homosexuality became normalized, it led to the repeal of sodomy laws, Childers noted.

“That’s how it went for homosexuality. I will bet you a steak dinner the pedophiles have observed how it went for gay people,” he said.

Florida attorney Jeff Childers in his Gainesville office on Oct. 12, 2021. (Amber Dorn for The Epoch Times)

So if pedophiles gain sexual-orientation status, they could work on decriminalizing sex between minors and adults, he said.

But there’s a significant difference between sodomy laws and sex offender laws, meaning it would be much tougher to weaken them, he said. One of the arguments used to strike down sodomy laws was that they were antiquated and not often used. That can’t be said for child sexual assault laws.

Childers said there appears to be an erosion of the penalty for pedophilia in California. He referenced a Daily Mail expose that showed thousands of convicted pedophiles in California are being released from prison less than a year after being convicted of rape, sodomy, and sexual abuse of children under 14.

California’s Senate Bill 145, passed in 2020, expanded a law allowing judges discretion when considering whether those engaged in gay sex with minors should register as sex offenders.

California Gov. Gavin Newsom speaks during a press conference on Oct. 6, 2022. (Justin Sullivan/Getty Images)

In a previous bill passed in California in 1944, judges were allowed to make this call, but only when the crime involved vaginal sex with a minor. Judges have always had the authority to exclude a person from registering if he or she was not more than 10 years older than the minor.

So under the law, a 24-year-old having sex with a 14-year-old might avoid being placed on the sex offender registry under statutory rape laws.

“The notion that a 14-year-old could consent to sexual relations with an adult is irrational,” Childers said. “That 14-year-old can’t vote. Of course, they can’t drink until they’re 21.”

People must fight the issue of normalizing pedophilia at every juncture, Childers said. Or suddenly, it could become legal.

No Gentle Words

Lerma’s quest for justice for her son made headlines in 2018 after she successfully hunted down his abuser, a man who had access to the child while living at her ex-husband’s home. After he was arrested and released from jail on bail, he disappeared.

On a tip, Lerma traveled to Mexico and found him in a grocery store parking lot. Her success in locating Andrew Vanderwal led to his arrest and conviction for molesting her son and another child.

She remembers trembling when she spotted him in Ciudad Cuauhtemoc from her rental car.

“It was this absolute rage, and like I could get out and kill him,” she recalled.

It would be wrong to use gentle words to describe the man who wounded her son so profoundly, she said.

And even if pedophiles have been sexually molested, that doesn’t give them permission to prey on children, she said. She was a victim of sexual abuse in her youth but didn’t become an offender,  she said.

Now, in her work with the Lydia Lerma Foundation, she helps parents hunt down perpetrators running from justice. And she uses professional and social networks to circulate images of fugitives she’s tracking worldwide.

Pedophilia shouldn’t be considered a sexual orientation because it involves an unequal power dynamic between a child and an adult, she said.

“It’s an abusive situation,” she said. “There’s no equality there. There’s no consent there. I don’t care how they try to spin it.”

 

Darlene McCormick Sanchez

 

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Darlene McCormick Sanchez reports for The Epoch Times from Texas. She writes on a variety of issues with a focus on Texas politics, election fraud, and the erosion of traditional values. Before writing for The Epoch Times, she worked as an investigative reporter and covered crime, courts, and government for newspapers in Texas, Florida, and Connecticut. Her work on The Sinful Messiah series, which exposed Branch Davidians leader David Koresh, was named a Pulitzer Prize finalist for investigative reporting in the 1990s.

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[Macnamara]

The agenda is becoming more and more open...

Creepy Planned Parenthood Sex Ed Director Claims Babies are ‘Sexual From Birth,’ Endorses Giving Children Porn

by News Kick

Planned Parenthood Center for Sex Education Executive Director Bill Taverner is facing severe backlash after clips surfaced of him claiming that babies are “sexual from birth” and that children should be given pornography.

Taverner, who has spoken about sex education at congressional hearings, claimed in 2015 that “we are all sexual beings from birth to death.”

“[We have] in our society, an assumption of asexuality of people with intellectual disabilities,” Taverner said. “It’s a myth that’s perpetuated, and really we are all sexual beings from birth until death.”

Planned Parenthood ran with Taverner’s extremist and creepy take, writing in a guide to sexual education called “Fundamentals of Teaching Sexuality” that “sexuality is a part of life through all the ages and stages.” 

“Babies, elders, and everyone in between can experience sexuality,” the guide added, according to a report from the Daily Mail.

Around 2012, according to a report from Fox News, Taverner said “children of a certain age should be taught about pornography in sex education,” the article points out that this is a position he has maintained up until at least February 2021.

http://www.tathasta.com/2022/12/creepy-planned-parenthood-sex-ed.html

[Macnamara]

A preview of yesterdays “All Ages” Christmas Themed Drag Show hosted at The Starlighter in San Antonio, TX. Full video coming soon.

 

 

[Macnamara]

Pedophilia Protection and Pushing | Media Malfeasance

26,217 views

Dec 3, 2022

https://banned.video/watch?id=638bd24e94cc1f7c6305e5b6

[TheConsultant]

22 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Pedophilia Protection and Pushing | Media Malfeasance

26,217 views

Dec 3, 2022

https://banned.video/watch?id=638bd24e94cc1f7c6305e5b6

Nice, not aware of that channel. Balenciaga supposedly means Baal is king? but that's probably utter bollocks. Although a witch in american horror story appears to say it as her last words before being killed, so it probably does have meaning.

Edited December 6, 2022 by TheConsultant

[Macnamara]

Just now, TheConsultant said:

Nice, not aware of that channel. Balenciaga supposedly means Baal is king? but that probably utter bollocks. Although a witch in american horror story appears to say it as her last words before being killed, so it probably does have meaning.

 

i really wouldn't be surprised

[TheConsultant]

12 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

i really wouldn't be surprised

That's the worrying part of all of this, I really wouldn't be surprised so I am unable to laugh it off as rubbish instantly as I know all too well the world is backwards, upside down and inside out.