The Original Lords Prayer

[webtrekker]

19 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

Don't tell me, he married Mary Magdalene, moved to France where he sired kids. 

 

Of course not! He married Maggers, sired the kids, then THEY went forth and multiplied in France! Please re-read your pseudohistory books.

 

 

 

[alexa]

40 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

Of course not! He married Maggers, sired the kids, then THEY went forth and multiplied in France! Please re-read your pseudohistory books.

 

 

 

 

What a load of tosh, but it's up to you what you want to believe (shrug)

[webtrekker]

6 minutes ago, alexa said:

 

What a load of tosh, but it's up to you what you want to believe (shrug)

 

Yes, it is all a load of Tosh. I never said I believed it though, just as I don't believe the bible, or ANY religious documents for that matter.

 

We're all here for a very short lifetime and you can believe whatever you like. Religion =  control of the Masses. That's all it is, or ever was.

 

 

 

[alexa]

8 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Religion =  control of the Masses. That's all it is, or ever was.

 

Religion is not for me, only Jesus 

[Mr H]

@pi3141thanks so much for your input. absolutely fascinating. If you have any recommended reading would be excellent.

 

My direct experience of Jesus, through ayahuasca and meditation - is that what we call Jesus is the human psyche's representation of the "perfect human".And this energy, this possibility is available and exists in all of us - and it exists as an energetic force in it's own right - pure divine loving human energy representing what we are all capable off. - of course could all be made up by me, who knows with this stuff, but that was my experience.

 

as for the historical Jesus I don't know too much about him hence my interest.

[TheConsultant]

https://www.bitchute.com/video/6mMIgcuGJJL6/ - THE SECRET LIFE OF SYMBOLS

This dives in to origins of Symbols, I believe including the cross which is related to sun worship and the setting sun astrologically/geographically speaking, only to be reborn again the next morning. Sun of God, not the SON of God. 

I do believe a dude once existed named Jesus who was trying to do the job of conspiracy theorists before it was cool, of course relating to the establishment of then, although some argue same people in power now as was then, same families or bloodlines.



 

[pi3141]

1 hour ago, Mr H said:

as for the historical Jesus I don't know too much about him hence my interest.

 

Thanks Mr H.

 

As for the historical Jesus, we can't pin him down but the Spiritualist have it that the Jesus figure was largely based on the life of Apollonius of Tyana.

 

An interesting thread to read, as for recommended reading, try my Keys to Religion thread, I reference and take relevant quotes from all the main books, Devils Pulpit - Rev Taylor, Two Babylons - Rev Hislop, Masters Carpet -  Edmond Ronayne, Isis Unveiled - Madam Blavatsky - are the headliners, but there's quite a few more.

[pi3141]

51 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

I do believe a dude once existed named Jesus who was trying to do the job of conspiracy theorists before it was cool, of course relating to the establishment of then, although some argue same people in power now as was then, same families or bloodlines.

 

Yeah me too, I believe a dude once existed, but his name wasn't Jesus, he wasn't born on Dec 26th and he didn't die on a T shaped cross or resurrect 3 days later, other than that, there was a guy, he was cool, he did bring the truth and he probably worked miracles.

 

And he taught, that what he did, we will do greater.

[Mr H]

5 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Thanks Mr H.

 

As for the historical Jesus, we can't pin him down but the Spiritualist have it that the Jesus figure was largely based on the life of Apollonius of Tyana.

 

An interesting thread to read, as for recommended reading, try my Keys to Religion thread, I reference and take relevant quotes from all the main books, Devils Pulpit - Rev Taylor, Two Babylons - Rev Hislop, Masters Carpet -  Edmond Ronayne, Isis Unveiled - Madam Blavatsky - are the headliners, but there's quite a few more.

Awesome thank you so much. I will read these with great interest.

[pi3141]

4 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Awesome thank you so much. I will read these with great interest.

 

Cool - and I should have said - yes, there is the Christ energy and it is available and within us all.

[pi3141]

7 minutes ago, Mr H said:

Awesome thank you so much. I will read these with great interest.

 

Sorry - another one I should have said - The Origin of All Religious Worship - Charles Dupuis

[TheConsultant]

20 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yeah me too, I believe a dude once existed, but his name wasn't Jesus, he wasn't born on Dec 26th and he didn't die on a T shaped cross or resurrect 3 days later, other than that, there was a guy, he was cool, he did bring the truth and he probably worked miracles.

 

And he taught, that what he did, we will do greater.

Studying occultism you will understand why everything we do culturally which stems from a cult, hence the etymology of the word culture stemming from cult (Latin word Colere), you will notice that nearly everything we celebrate is to mock a person who allegedly lived thousands of years ago, I think that is quite significant personally. Why go to all that effort if that person, energy, belief or thing is a non threat, or non issue to their control and power?

Edited November 23, 2022 by TheConsultant

[pi3141]

9 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Studying occultism you will understand why everything we do culturally which stems from a cult, hence the etymology of the word culture stemming from cult (Latin word Colere), you will notice that nearly everything we celebrate is to mock a person who allegedly lived thousands of years ago, I think that is quite significant personally. Why go to all that effort if that person, energy, belief or thing is a non threat, or non issue to their control and power?

 

Yes well thats the crux of it isn't is.

 

We are taught in opposition to the teachings of the Christ and that reason is because his teachings were so powerful that with them we could have heaven on earth, but to subvert them and control us like they do allows them to rule over us and give us the society we have today.

[TheConsultant]

33 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yes well thats the crux of it isn't is.

 

We are taught in opposition to the teachings of the Christ and that reason is because his teachings were so powerful that with them we could have heaven on earth, but to subvert them and control us like they do allows them to rule over us and give us the society we have today.

Its fascinating, it really is. The problem with the teachings that I have is where does one find an unadulterated representation of those teachings, as each has been edited, deleted, twisted, reversed, inverted etc - Each religion appears to have something tangible in there somewhere, in some cases other religions are the same story remixed with names, places, dates changed, almost like a divide and conquer of spirituality, or religion, or understanding. 

Edit: Just realised I posted the wrong video above, interesting, but not the one specifically mentioning Sun Worship and Sun dying at the cross to be reborn again the next day or something along those lines, same series, same person. 

Here is the correct one, I hope.

 

Edited November 23, 2022 by TheConsultant

[webtrekker]

2 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

Yeah me too, I believe a dude once existed, but his name wasn't Jesus, he wasn't born on Dec 26th and he didn't die on a T shaped cross or resurrect 3 days later, other than that, there was a guy, he was cool, he did bring the truth and he probably worked miracles.

 

And he taught, that what he did, we will do greater.

 

Was his name Brian by any chance?

 

 

 

[peter]

12 hours ago, pi3141 said:

 

The gospel of John is said to be the closest in time and although not actually written by him, was written 2 or 3 generations after his death from oral teachings.

I didn't realize that oral teachings were so bloody dangerous 

[alexa]

When they begin to ban the bible & persecute the Christians or anyone that isn't jabbed, know that that final day is near.

[pi3141]

10 hours ago, TheConsultant said:

Its fascinating, it really is. The problem with the teachings that I have is where does one find an unadulterated representation of those teachings, as each has been edited, deleted, twisted, reversed, inverted etc - Each religion appears to have something tangible in there somewhere, in some cases other religions are the same story remixed with names, places, dates changed, almost like a divide and conquer of spirituality, or religion, or understanding. 

 

Yes, its difficult, my understanding is - all religions contain a golden thread of truth. Its just how to discern it, my advice, let your heart guide you.

 

But always renember, it doesn't really matter, God gave us life and free will for the purpose of living and experiencing life. It doesn't require worship for that gift anymore than I require my children to worship me for bringing them into this world, I did it for love and the continuation of creation, they don't need to thank me on a weekly basis, and I'm not even a perfect being. God is though, perfect, why on earth would a perfect being need singing, chanting and praying to on a weekly basis? Doesn't sound like a perfect being to me, sounds like a needy, vainglorious being that one.

 

We are here to live, thats all.

 

 

Edit: Thanks for the vid, I do like Jordan Maxwell, I'll watch it tonight.

Edited November 24, 2022 by pi3141

[pi3141]

4 hours ago, alexa said:

When they begin to ban the bible & persecute the Christians or anyone that isn't jabbed, know that that final day is near.

 

If that day comes, know that its not Gods plan, its the final stage of the spell the dark occultists have put over humanity.

[alexa]

12 minutes ago, pi3141 said:

 

If that day comes, know that its not Gods plan, its the final stage of the spell the dark occultists have put over humanity.

 

No it's not God's plan, it is God who has had enough of us & I can't say I blame him - Matthew 24:37

[alexa]

If God hadn't of coursed the deluge, none of us would exist today.

[peter]

14 minutes ago, alexa said:

If God hadn't of coursed the deluge, none of us would exist today.

How do you know

[alexa]

2 minutes ago, peter said:

How do you know

 

Stands to reason read Genusis 6 

[Morpheus]

On 11/20/2022 at 12:54 PM, pi3141 said:

Madam Blavataky says in Isis Unveiled that nothing in Xhristianity is original to Christianity,

Hi chief,

 

I hope you don't mind me asking, but I've seen you mention Blavatsky a couple time now and considering he to shady background and the author of the secret doctrine () why should we take a word of what she says as any modicum of truth? 

 

She's a Satanist. 

[peter]

1 hour ago, alexa said:

 

Stands to reason read Genusis 6 

Like I said how do you know