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7 hours ago, alexa said:

 

But why would they do this ? :classic_unsure:

well imo a few reasons

 

if it's all BS, you,me,someone wasted time

 

if it's real ,the story leaves the impresion that they are all powerful(generaly speaking)

 

shaping the mind of the people(paintig us as crazys ect.)

 

or earth is hollow but not as we say,then it's diversion of the truth(in the end)

 

myths,legends and stories were the tools to transfer knowledge to the next generations 

when they are literal and when they are figurative is the key 

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10 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

myths,legends and stories were the tools to transfer knowledge to the next generations 

when they are literal and when they are figurative is the key

 

I reckon there's more truth in myths & legends than they are letting on, I'm always trying to figure out what's literal & what isn't especially when it comes to mythical creatures.

 

18 minutes ago, screamingeagle said:

if it's real ,the story leaves the impresion that they are all powerful(generaly speaking)

 

If Byrd's story is true, I reckon TPTB would want to play down a touch as not to give the game away.

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Today in Tartaria Explained! Pt6 we uncover the mystery of Subterranean Tunnels and Buried Cities. Many are unaware that just about every major city in America and around the world has underground components or foundations upon which they were built. Many of these were hidden and covered up because this would imply that there was in fact an ancient civilization that was here before many of these cities were established. The modern-day story of the Underground Railroads and slaves is a perfect example of historians trying to hide this past by saying that this was just a metaphor for the routes and safe houses that slaves would take in their attempt to be freed. Yet is there another explanation? Why would you even call it Underground Railroads? This story begins to fall apart once we explore the massive amount of evidence for underground networks and cities that have been abandoned and forgotten. Is there a hidden world beneath us that has been systematically removed from our education systems?

 

Watch @ 21: 33

 

 

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1 hour ago, alexa said:

King Arthur in Hyperborea &
the Arctic Cataclysm

https://conjuringthepast.com/kingarthurhyperborea.html

 

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One of the big problems for me with the whole King Arthur thing, is the insistence of his being the saviour of England. Amongst other myths.

ALL the real evidence, and I mean clear evidence, shows him to be Scottish. I need to look it up again as my memory is crap but @Macnamara will recite this off the top of his head. The whole lot. Merlin, Merlin’s home all verified by any non English historians.

Dont know about the Hyperborea side but Welsh, Scottish, Irish and Cornish history have all been screwed with to suit the English master race world view. I’m reading the Mabinogion again at the moment. Nice read.

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2 hours ago, Bombadil said:

One of the big problems for me with the whole King Arthur thing, is the insistence of his being the saviour of England. Amongst other myths.

ALL the real evidence, and I mean clear evidence, shows him to be Scottish. I need to look it up again as my memory is crap but @Macnamara will recite this off the top of his head. The whole lot. Merlin, Merlin’s home all verified by any non English historians.

 

i think arthur belongs to everyone and in our moment of deepest darkness he will rise again

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1 minute ago, Bombadil said:

I was talking more the historical side.

 

well on the historical side the celts have the cauldron of plenty. Then in medieval times we see writers creating stories about the grail

 

Its not as simple though as saying that the grail has grown out of 'christianity' because it seems that the knights templar tie into the grail myth and are said by some to be the 'keepers of the grail'

 

I don't personally believe the knights templar are christians. I believe that they are kabbalists and that their higher membership were composed of jewish bloodlines.

 

The grail then becomes an occult symbol which has its own layers of esoteric meanings. I would then argue that the celts too had their own myths with their own hidden symbolic meanings all relating to the transformation of consciousness.

 

The gundestrup cauldron, which i went to see when it came as an exhibition to edinburgh museum:

 

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5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

Its not as simple though as saying that the grail has grown out of 'christianity' because it seems that the knights templar tie into the grail myth and are said by some to be the 'keepers of the grai

 

It is said that true holy grail is the blood of Jesus & will be used in the end days to clone the Antichrist into Jesus. I'm not sure how true this is but I read it in the book 'Bloodlines of the Illuminati'.

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1 minute ago, alexa said:

 

It is said that true holy grail is the blood of Jesus

 

i don't buy that

 

that writes the rest of us out of the story

 

imo the question isn't: 'what are the descendants of jesus going to do in terms of transforming consciousness?'

 

the question is: 'what are YOU going to do to transform YOUR consciousness?'

 

are YOU going to drink from the grail?

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

the question is: 'what are YOU going to do to transform YOUR consciousness?'

 

are YOU going to drink from the grail?

 

I don't want to transform my consciousness & to even consider drinking from the grail is preposterous.

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5 hours ago, Bombadil said:

ALL the real evidence, and I mean clear evidence, shows him to be Scottish.

I'd be more inclined to say he's Welsh actually. I think there's more evidence for that and Camelot being in Wales than anything else. But let's remember, stories can be exaggerated and also contain allegory. As Mac said, I think as an Englishman and growing up with these legend of ours, we all have a piece of them inside us. It's our heritage. I read this week that Sir Francis Drake is being cancelled, the man who destroyed the Spanish armada, singlehandedly saving these shores, but no, he must be cancelled be he had slaves!

 

Now I don't condone slavery but everything needs to be in context. What's hilarious about such an argument, is that tribes of Africa were selling their own people to traders, so this argument he must be cancelled because he had a socially accepted norm to own slaves in his time, is crazy. 

 

Everyone knows it's not right that (although we know it's still going on today, but shhhhh, it doesn't fit the narrative. 🤫) slavery in the majority of the world isn't acceptable anymore, but surely that's what we call progression as a species, no? FML. Anyway, I digress, the earth may well be hollow and it may not.....

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6 hours ago, Bombadil said:

One of the big problems for me with the whole King Arthur thing, is the insistence of his being the saviour of England. Amongst other myths.

ALL the real evidence, and I mean clear evidence, shows him to be Scottish. I need to look it up again as my memory is crap but @Macnamara will recite this off the top of his head. The whole lot. Merlin, Merlin’s home all verified by any non English historians.

Dont know about the Hyperborea side but Welsh, Scottish, Irish and Cornish history have all been screwed with to suit the English master race world view. I’m reading the Mabinogion again at the moment. Nice read.

 

To be fair, the English are still closer to the Cornish, Welsh, Irish, and Scottish than they are to Germanics, because the English still have about 60% Celtic blood on average. I agree though, these old legends should be something that both Celts and Anglos should be able to identify with.

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Hades. Naraka. Guinee. Xibalba. Though names may differ from one set of teachings to another, almost every religion on the earth features the concept of an underworld. There are a plethora of spots around the world that are believed to be gates to the underworld—we took a look at where they are, and the legends behind them.

 

 

 

Read more here: https://trib.al/E4IESm4 At Atlas Obscura, our mission is to inspire wonder and curiosity about the incredible world we all share.

See where we’re exploring here: https://www.atlasobscura.com

 

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I believe the Voynich Manuscripts depicts drawings from the underworld & the language is that of the beings who reside there & this is the reason why no one on earth can decipher the VM's.

 

The Voynich Manuscript came to light in 1912, after Wilfrid Voynich, a rare books dealer in London, bought the manuscript in Italy. It had earlier belonged to the Holy Roman Emperor Rudolf II of Prague who gave the manuscript to John Dee.

In the manuscript it depicts drawings of the celestial star systems depicting what I reckon is the star Polaris at the center.

 

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The Zodiac Wheels

 

The VM also depicts these weird and wonderful plants.

 

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18 minutes ago, alexa said:

I believe the Voynich Manuscripts depicts drawings from the underworld & the language is that of the beings who reside there & this is the reason why no one on earth can decipher the VM's.

 

The Voynich Manuscript came to light in 1912, after Wilfrid Voynich, a rare books dealer in London, bought the manuscript in Italy. It had earlier belonged to the Holy Roman Emperor Rudolf II of Prague who gave the manuscript to John Dee.

In the manuscript it depicts drawings of the celestial star systems depicting what I reckon is the star Polaris at the center.

 

1669916218_avoyx.jpg.0a3f2d142abd29171b53174ee01a6f4b.jpg

 

The Zodiac Wheels

 

The VM also depicts these weird and wonderful plants.

 

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Hmmm...

 

Wilfrid Voynich: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wilfrid_Voynich

Spouse: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ethel_Voynich

Stephen Skinner claims: https://www.theguardian.com/books/2017/jul/05/author-of-mysterious-voynich-manuscript-was-italian-jew-says-scholar

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