Occulus5 Posted September 18 Share Posted September 18 Interesting video Richard uploaded to his site about his overly unity 'N' machine device. Hall sure knows a thing or two about electronics and putting machines like that together. He seemed sure that setting the machine up correctly does produce more energy. But how would this energy be harnessed and used on everdday household appliances like lighting, your fridge, toaster, TV and your car?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 On 9/15/2025 at 12:12 PM, Occulus5 said: Regarding when Richard started to modify his home, I know he said in his video the electric company kept wanting him to have a smart meter, which he obvious refused to have. I know this should be for a different thread, but what is everyone's views on smart meters, are they really harmful to your health and do they really snoop on your home, or this just disinfo by people who simply don't know what they are talking about?. The reason I ask is a friend of my had one installed today and I asked the bloke installing it (to which I sounded like a right arrogant git) that I won't be having one in my house and I said to him they are controversial and some people I know won't have one because they aren't good for your health (I really couldn't be bothered mentioning the surveillance side of them). He told me that he's installed thousands of them and he's never had any health issues. You don't have to be a tin foiled hatter to be concerned about them, as I've know regular people over the years who said they too won't have one, but they never told me why. I suppose the engineer would say they aren't harmful otherwise noone would have one, and he'd probably be out of a job if he said that. It is curious though why energy companies are so keen to want people to have them installed in their homes. I mentioned in another thread here recently, that I ended up having a smart meter installed in my flat late last year. I didn't particularly want one, but found myself with no choice, as the new tariff I'd signed up for last year with EDF did state "smart meter required" (I was hoping that the engineer wouldn't have been able to complete the job, due to insufficient space in the meter cupboard, which happened the last time when someone from nPower tried a few years ago). Despite my scepticism, I'm happy to confirm that since I've had this smart meter fitted, I've not suffered from any health issues as a result! As for the accusations of 'spying' or 'surveillance', I can't see how this is possible - the device itself just replaces your existing meter(s), and is still only counting the amount of units of energy that you use; the only difference is that it connects via radio to some kind of 'wide area network', it doesn't connect to your home wi-fi broadband, and thus is completely independent of your home network. OK, so as it sends meter readings, its possible to know what times of day you use most energy, but that's about it. On 9/15/2025 at 12:12 PM, Occulus5 said: It is curious though why energy companies are so keen to want people to have them installed in their homes. I still stand by what I wrote back in 2022 on my own website: https://thegrumpyowl.co.uk/2022/06/27/the-real-reason-for-smart-meters-is-becoming-ever-more-apparent/ Smart meters aren't about "frying us with radiation" or spying on us, the eventual aim is to be able to charge people more for their energy, depending on the time of day they use it. Unfortunately, you'll be hard pressed to find any energy supplier now that will offer fixed-price tariffs if you don't have a smart meter, after all it is Government policy that households should have one installed if offered to them. And there will be some point at which it will be impossible, or extremely difficult, to refuse one. Now I'm not saying that people should just roll over and have a smart meter fitted, but I am cautious about those people who are potentially spreading misinfo about 'health issues' and 'surveillance', while overlooking the bigger potential issue of just being ripped off financially. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Nah there are health issues. If you've avoided them (so far....it accumulates) then count yourself lucky. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occulus5 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 13 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: I mentioned in another thread here recently, that I ended up having a smart meter installed in my flat late last year. I didn't particularly want one, but found myself with no choice, as the new tariff I'd signed up for last year with EDF did state "smart meter required" (I was hoping that the engineer wouldn't have been able to complete the job, due to insufficient space in the meter cupboard, which happened the last time when someone from nPower tried a few years ago). Despite my scepticism, I'm happy to confirm that since I've had this smart meter fitted, I've not suffered from any health issues as a result! As for the accusations of 'spying' or 'surveillance', I can't see how this is possible - the device itself just replaces your existing meter(s), and is still only counting the amount of units of energy that you use; the only difference is that it connects via radio to some kind of 'wide area network', it doesn't connect to your home wi-fi broadband, and thus is completely independent of your home network. OK, so as it sends meter readings, its possible to know what times of day you use most energy, but that's about it. I still stand by what I wrote back in 2022 on my own website: https://thegrumpyowl.co.uk/2022/06/27/the-real-reason-for-smart-meters-is-becoming-ever-more-apparent/ Smart meters aren't about "frying us with radiation" or spying on us, the eventual aim is to be able to charge people more for their energy, depending on the time of day they use it. Unfortunately, you'll be hard pressed to find any energy supplier now that will offer fixed-price tariffs if you don't have a smart meter, after all it is Government policy that households should have one installed if offered to them. And there will be some point at which it will be impossible, or extremely difficult, to refuse one. Now I'm not saying that people should just roll over and have a smart meter fitted, but I am cautious about those people who are potentially spreading misinfo about 'health issues' and 'surveillance', while overlooking the bigger potential issue of just being ripped off financially. If they are not as bad as some people are claiming, then why do quite alot of people not like them?. I've spoken to non conspiracy type people about smart meters, regular people, and they told me they wouldn't touch them with a barge pole. Pity I never asked them why, but I doubt it's to do with surveillance or that they are harmful to your health. Richard D Hall refused to have one in his home during the time he was converting to off grid, but he never really gave his thoughts on them, and I would've thought someone like him would've done his research on them. I wouldn't have thought someone like Hall would be spreading misinformation, but I don't think he's really talked about them. Icke always bangs on about smart meters being harmful and being used to snoop on your home (as are every appliances that falls under the term "smart"), but where's he getting this information from?. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Occulus5 Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 12 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said: Nah there are health issues. If you've avoided them (so far....it accumulates) then count yourself lucky. I would tend to agree, even though I have no evidence to prove it. It is likely an accumulative, long term effect. That's why you'll get someone saying "mate, I've installed thousands of them and I'm still OK". 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeoScota Posted September 22 Share Posted September 22 10 hours ago, Occulus5 said: I would tend to agree, even though I have no evidence to prove it. It is likely an accumulative, long term effect. That's why you'll get someone saying "mate, I've installed thousands of them and I'm still OK". To add to that, the installer will have switched off the leccy to install them so the accumulation will be gradual. Phone mast engineers have come forward in past saying they had health issues which they believe were from being in close contact with the masts on a regular basis. But then I couldn't say how much they work with the mast on or off. When normies start to dial back from "convenience" and "cheaper" then there's probably something up and it's not just troofers bleating lol 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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