alexa Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 You will own nothing & be happy. I can't fix ALL your problems, Rishi Sunak warns Brits: PM gives first interview amid claims Council Tax is set to ROCKET - and confirms he REFUSED to step aside for Boris in Tory leadership race. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11392191/I-fix-problems-says-Sunak-admits-right-honest-trade-offs.html 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 They don't have the right to tax you anyway. You never signed a contract agreeing to any of this. You never signed a contract or gave your consent in any way to allow these people to rule over you, you never signed a contract to allow these people to make laws that you must abide by, you never signed a contract to fund the lifestyles of these people. To tax you is completly illegal. Don't pay your taxes and there is nothing they can do about it. 5 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 14 minutes ago, jack121 said: They don't have the right to tax you anyway. You never signed a contract agreeing to any of this. You never signed a contract or gave your consent in any way to allow these people to rule over you, you never signed a contract to allow these people to make laws that you must abide by, you never signed a contract to fund the lifestyles of these people. To tax you is completly illegal. Don't pay your taxes and there is nothing they can do about it. Do they not take you to court? I fell behind with mine and was summoned a few years ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 https://sites.google.com/view/council-tax-is-illegal/home @jack121 @allymisfit @alexa 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truther79 Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 9 minutes ago, allymisfit said: Do they not take you to court? I fell behind with mine and was summoned a few years ago. This is what I am wondering There were several people in my local stand in the park group that insisted people not pay taxes. All well and good when you're not caught. However I get the feeling they would crack right down on that given the slightest indication this is taking off among the awake. Plus, it might not be law as some argue. Neither was locking us down either, yet, they still fined and took people to task. What's lawful or not doesn't even enter their head. They are tyrants. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I've posted this before, but years ago, when I got my year's council tax bill, I wrote asking them to specify what proportion of my payment went towards Common Purpose activities. They did not answer me or communicate with me in any way but despite my bill not being overdue (I've always paid by monthly DD) they immediately put an attachment of earnings on my then husbands wage. He knew nothing about my query to them and was deeply embarrassed. People on this forum at that time disbelieved me, saying that they can't do things like that without pre-warning you. THEY DID IT, exactly as I have described. He contacted them and just paid the annual bill on his switch card rather than have his employers deducting it from his salary & forwarding it directly to HMRC. Make no mistake, they are ruthless cunts. 5 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) How they can justify increasing Council Tax when all services are diminished to the point of being inadequate is beyond me. But of course, they don't need to justify anything. With wages stagnant because most employers are unable to afford increasing them (assuming you're fortunate enough to have a job) groceries, mortgage interest rates & energy bills going throught the roof, a lot of people are going to be in dire straits. Hence criminal activity will increase, but there are few police there to deal with it. It should be increasingly clear to people that we are being impoverished by design. And during talk of rising mortgage rates, I've already heard the 'experts' on the radio saying that more assistance will need to be made available by the government. So if anyone can see the logic of having exorbitant costs for everything and 'demanding' hand outs from the government, the only explanation is the implementation of UBI. What a fucking panto! Edited November 5, 2022 by Tinfoil Hat 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 52 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: And during talk of rising mortgage rates, I've already heard the 'experts' on the radio saying that more assistance will need to be made available by the government. So if anyone can see the logic of having exorbitant costs for everything and 'demanding' hand outs from the government, the only explanation is the implementation of UBI. What a fucking panto! If you follow the money, this way of doing it channels money from govt borrowing, to the govt, back to the taxpayers in the form of handouts, and then on to the banks, energy companies and other corporations. And we still have to repay the debt to the banks plus interest. They could just use price caps, tax cuts or minimum wage increases to help us out, but then we aren't the main beneficiaries of this whole money vortex. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said: How they can justify increasing Council Tax when all services are diminished to the point of being inadequate is beyond me. But of course, they don't need to justify anything. It'll all be because of "Covid". They pished away all their funding on bollards, social distancing tape and signage, blocking off traffic for cyclists....and all the CV19 propaganda on every available surface and building. Edited November 5, 2022 by Anti Facts Sir 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Morpheus said: https://sites.google.com/view/council-tax-is-illegal/home @jack121 @allymisfit @alexa All tax is illegal from what I have read. I read the Financial Administration Act here in Canada and it is huge.. ( it has built in ways for the system to win)...but they will simply arrest you or fine you for not paying. If arrested your freedom is gone. If fined and you dont pay...you are arrested....vicious circle. The system is constructed to swoop you up and spin you around unless by some chance you catch a break. Here we pay 'property taxes' on property. If you do not pay they will seize your home... The fact that knowing taxation is illegal doesn't really help much imo. If anyone has a solution to circumventing this corrupt system I would love to hear about it. There are many claims that you can do this, but so far I have yet to see the proof. Try getting a bank account without RES ID,ent status. They loop you in from every angle. I was looking at simple reloadable VISA cards yesterday - was wondering if useful to me at all. The assistant said " You can only buy those so long as you dont pay your taxes in another country" !!!!!!! You also need ID to buy them....thats to buy one with CASH too. WTF. Not that I pay taxes in another country - but the concept of what she said was very alerting to me. Edited November 5, 2022 by Beaujangles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 9 hours ago, alexa said: You will own nothing & be happy. I can't fix ALL your problems, Rishi Sunak warns Brits: PM gives first interview amid claims Council Tax is set to ROCKET - and confirms he REFUSED to step aside for Boris in Tory leadership race. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11392191/I-fix-problems-says-Sunak-admits-right-honest-trade-offs.html Elon Musk KNOWS MORE ABOUT ROCKETS THAN ANYONE ELSE! He will soon BUY COUNCILTAX and FIRE THE MANAGERS WHO CENSORED PEOPLE ON COUNCILTAX. Then people like DONALD TRUMP and KANYE can POST ON COUNCILTAX AGAIN! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Morpheus said: https://sites.google.com/view/council-tax-is-illegal/home @jack121 @allymisfit @alexa Thanks Morpheus, I'll have a good read of that tonight. It's scary how bad this is all getting. If this goes up, I don't think I can afford to live. Being a single person in this world is nearly impossible to survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said: How they can justify increasing Council Tax when all services are diminished to the point of being inadequate is beyond me. But of course, they don't need to justify anything. With wages stagnant because most employers are unable to afford increasing them (assuming you're fortunate enough to have a job) groceries, mortgage interest rates & energy bills going throught the roof, a lot of people are going to be in dire straits. Hence criminal activity will increase, but there are few police there to deal with it. It should be increasingly clear to people that we are being impoverished by design. And during talk of rising mortgage rates, I've already heard the 'experts' on the radio saying that more assistance will need to be made available by the government. So if anyone can see the logic of having exorbitant costs for everything and 'demanding' hand outs from the government, the only explanation is the implementation of UBI. What a fucking panto! Is this the chaos before the order they're desperate to bring in? Feels this way :( 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said: How they can justify increasing Council Tax when all services are diminished to the point of being inadequate is beyond me. But of course, they don't need to justify anything. Me thinks a town hall efficiency drive is needed. It's a bit like Twitter, you could sack half the folk and no one would notice - except possibly the next time they try a lockdown they'd be less of those annoying signs about. Edited November 5, 2022 by Mikhail Liebestein 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 Perfect time to educate the masses about the Common Law. You've never signed a contract to pay the Council Tax!! I am not happy that I am paying for the police to protect criminals.....Paying tax is like contributing others to be killed in war, via vax while you are protesting that it should be stopped. It's crazy. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeDiem Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 (edited) Boris Becker tried dodging tax, not council tax admittedly but tax never the less. With all his expensive lawyers, what did he get. Yep tax is more than likely illegal, but when you have an illegal system backing it up I’m afraid we are all f’ed. Edited November 5, 2022 by CarpeDiem 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 6 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said: I've posted this before, but years ago, when I got my year's council tax bill, I wrote asking them to specify what proportion of my payment went towards Common Purpose activities. They did not answer me or communicate with me in any way but despite my bill not being overdue (I've always paid by monthly DD) they immediately put an attachment of earnings on my then husbands wage. He knew nothing about my query to them and was deeply embarrassed. People on this forum at that time disbelieved me, saying that they can't do things like that without pre-warning you. THEY DID IT, exactly as I have described. He contacted them and just paid the annual bill on his switch card rather than have his employers deducting it from his salary & forwarding it directly to HMRC. Make no mistake, they are ruthless cunts. This is why it needs to be exposed but what will the masses do? Remember when we were trying to warn about the Covid vax.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 40 minutes ago, allymisfit said: Thanks Morpheus, I'll have a good read of that tonight. It's scary how bad this is all getting. If this goes up, I don't think I can afford to live. Being a single person in this world is nearly impossible to survive. But you won't be the only person in the UK. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
allymisfit Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 5 minutes ago, DaleP said: But you won't be the only person in the UK. I know, but that doesn't make it any easier. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 44 minutes ago, CarpeDiem said: Boris Becker tried dodging tax, not council tax admittedly but tax never the less. With all his expensive lawyers, what did he get. Yep tax is more than likely illegal, but when you have an illegal system backing it up I’m afraid we are all f’ed. Did you read the link and the accompanying case law? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted November 5, 2022 Share Posted November 5, 2022 I'm going by memory here so this post may not be factually accurate, but based on what I am aware of... There is a law in place that restricts or 'caps' how much council tax can be increased by, and I believe it is currently something like 5%. So in order for 'council taxes to rocket' beyond 5% then there would need to be a change in the law or legislation that would allow this. Where I live in Birmingham, our council tax increased earlier this year but it was actually around the 4% mark. The neighbouring council in Sandwell attracted controversy by increasing their council taxes by 4.99%, the maximum allowed. Council spending is funded by council tax income, as well as funding received from central government. Councils should be spending money on providing 'essential services', such as refuse collection, street cleansing, road and footway maintenance, as well as funding public leisure facilities such as swimming pools and libraries etc. There are other public services that councils fund of course, but my point is that the councils should be prioritising such services over unneccessary spending, such as 'diversity and inclusion managers' and the like. Councils should also not be wasting money on 'vanity projects' that only benefit the contractors and developers employed to carry out such works. Many local councils around the country have been infiltrated and taken over by "Common Purpose" stooges, as raised by @Tinfoil Hat earlier. As well as dictate and 'shape' agendas, Common Purpose thrives at misappropriating public funds by siphoning them off into the hands of private individuals and companies. From the above thread, this is an important video to watch and understand, expecially in the context of how councils "spend money to save money" by employing "management consultants" and external companies to produce audits and reports detailing where 'cuts' need to be made. Both Birmingham and Sandwell councils pissed away millions of pounds of local taxpayers money on 'vanity projects' for the 2022 Commonwealth Games, then boasted how it was 'worth it' because of the expected investment in those regions that would follow. Sandwell Council spent £73m on the Aquatics Centre in Smethwick, destroying the Londonderry Playing Fields public green space in the process, for a WEEK of high-profile competition events at the Commonwealth Games, yet the centre is not likely to be open to the general public for another year, and due to its reconfiguration to accommodate a public gym, will never be able to host any major national or international sporting event again, due to lack of seating for such events. But moing on now, to another way that councils could try and fleece more money out of people, and that is through the whole 'tax band' system. Your council tax band is determined mostly by the value (rateable value) of the property from the early 90s, when council tax was introduced. Many properties won't have changed much since then, for example I'm currently renting a 1 bed flat in a low-rise apartment block built in the late 60s, which falls under tax band 'A'. But there are a number of properties that have been 'improved' or extended since then, yet their rateable value has never changed. For example you may be living in a 2 or 3 bed semi that was originally classed as 'B' or 'C', yet you may have had a loft conversion or extension built, which has increased your property to 4/5 beds, or at least significantly increased the value of your property. If your council tax band has not changed, your council is potentially losing out on 'rateable income'. So watch out also for calls for 're-evaluation' of property bandings, as that will likely be a method employed to increase council tax revenues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 You cannot recognise these people as your rulers. You did not sign any contract or aggrement to allow these people to rule over you. They simply walked into the country and said: We are your masters and you will do everything we tell you. It's all illegal. As free people they cannot make slaves out of you. They cannot force their will on you or make you do what they want you to do. Do not vote in their elections, it only shows support of their corrupt political system that they created and control with stealth and cunning. Voting is extremely essential for them. It displays compliance of the masses and a big thumbs up to their system. Realise : There is nothing they can do to you. Only by you bowing down and worshipping these people, obeying them, that is the only way they can hurt you. Look at it this way: There are 65 million people in britain. What are they going to do? Lock up 65 million people into prison, into a prison system that is only designed to handle 50,000 and is already overcrowded as it is. There is nothing they can do to you. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 22 hours ago, truther79 said: This is what I am wondering There were several people in my local stand in the park group that insisted people not pay taxes. All well and good when you're not caught. However I get the feeling they would crack right down on that given the slightest indication this is taking off among the awake. Plus, it might not be law as some argue. Neither was locking us down either, yet, they still fined and took people to task. What's lawful or not doesn't even enter their head. They are tyrants. People were taken to court, without successful prosecution. All charges of operating a business, breaking lockdown rules etc, were dismissed by the courts as illegal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truther79 Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 47 minutes ago, jack121 said: People were taken to court, without successful prosecution. All charges of operating a business, breaking lockdown rules etc, were dismissed by the courts as illegal. All? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted November 6, 2022 Share Posted November 6, 2022 (edited) On 11/5/2022 at 9:51 AM, jack121 said: They don't have the right to tax you anyway. You never signed a contract agreeing to any of this. You never signed a contract or gave your consent in any way to allow these people to rule over you, you never signed a contract to allow these people to make laws that you must abide by, you never signed a contract to fund the lifestyles of these people. To tax you is completly illegal. Don't pay your taxes and there is nothing they can do about it. they are not fucking about with taxes. They are pretty resolute in that 'they' rule with their written legislation and strongarms. they even admit there is no consent or contract. This is legalised mugging with the proviso that the tax , on the ledger, goes towards public services. Quote You do not have a choice of whether you are liable for Council Tax, as liability is determined in accordance with the statutory law. Your liability for Council Tax is not dependant on and does not require your consent or the existence of a contractual relationship with the council.https://www.bcpcouncil.gov.uk/Council-Tax/Understanding-Council-Tax/Liability-legislation-and-general-information-about-Council-Tax.aspx if you are asking for support to oppose this robbery then lets look at the demographics upper middle class and elite like the serf services they receive for the tiny % it costs them. (they are becoming disgruntled at the % of monies going to social care) the vast majority of spending is to 'social care' which is generally the domain of the people who you are trying to encourage to abolish council tax the majority of people rely upon social care money and services, they get the payback we are left with a pathetic % of people who oppose council tax but who are hopelessly outnumbered and unsupported by the zombies. but on the point of increasing council tax heres the funding sources that councils have to meet their statutory obligations (these are non-negotiable commiments the councils must meet) Quote We will receive in 2022 to 2023 £m Income and grants 1,137.2 Council Tax 763.5 Revenue Support Grant 19.3 Business rates 165.6 Collection fund surplus 9.6 Council tax hits 30% , whoring itself out gains 55%. and we wonder why 5G towers are popping up everywhere .. councils are being forced financially to accept anything to meet the financial requirements. N.B i am just giving a bit of balanced view to see how Councils are being dominated by the Cult Non-payment of a tax results in the full force of the court system descending upon the poor bastard who thinks the law is on their side. Gaol or a lien on your property will result. They get their taxes and you will pay the fine. a while ago it was a locally owned army hired to collect the Kings taxes using a sword The yanks kicked out the King a while ago but needed a full on war but somehow the King survived within the Federal system. Edited November 6, 2022 by zArk 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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