Tav Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 I could not find any such topic unless I did not search too well..But anyway, what religion is and Why it is is at the root of many of our problems as evidenced by pages upon pages of discussion we have in trying to defend what we think is Ours and thus Better. Religion is not any of this. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) Um, you ask a question in the title then give an opinion based on your perception which is irrelevant to the title? Confusing. I will answer your fhread title with my opinion. Religion is a way to understand, describe and make sense of, your reality experience. I didn't give it much thought, thats an 'off the cuff' comment. Edited November 2, 2022 by pi3141 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted November 2, 2022 Share Posted November 2, 2022 Research the etymology of the word and therein you will find the purpose of it. That's what etymology exists for; revealing the truth of things. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 The purpose of creating the thread was to start a discussion. I started off the discussion by giving some initial thoughts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 1 hour ago, Ethel said: Research the etymology of the word and therein you will find the purpose of it. That's what etymology exists for; revealing the truth of things. The etymology of the word doe not truly give the meaning or purpose. As with most words---even if you trace the root---you find the meaning assigned is the one collectively and safely agreed upon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tav Posted November 2, 2022 Author Share Posted November 2, 2022 (edited) . Edited November 2, 2022 by Tav Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pi3141 Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 10 hours ago, Ethel said: That's what etymology exists for; revealing the truth of things. Indeed. Very revealing is etymology, especially concerning religion and the occult. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 13 hours ago, Tav said: you find the meaning assigned is the one collectively and safely agreed upon. No it isn't, and I'm not interested in groupthink. It comes from Latin 'Religare', meaning "to bind". There is your purpose. Religion was created to "bind" the masses, control them, keep them tied in place. Keep their view fixed, create blind spots, drug them etc etc etc. End of discussion, end of thread. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 Religions are Cults. Invented, lied about and manipulated by humans. The origin comes from extraordinary individuals who have seen it with their own eyes. And that is 0.1% the rest is human nonsense. Enoch( the story) is such an example of someone who has actually experienced something. Even there, only a fraction is significant. How do I know? It's not that special. Everything has to do with the underlying fabric of reality itself. Something demonstrates the answers on many different layers. I myself saw and know things that were not seen in Enoch Story or in the present era. Humans get it wrong. It is amusing from my perspective that world religions have been made out of it. Here in the labyrinth of self-created illusions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 @Tav you ask, ' What is the Purpose of Religion?' There is no purpose to religion's, but there is a purpose to God the creator of you, me & all that resides on this beautiful earth. Without him nothing would exist. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 26 minutes ago, alexa said: @Tav you ask, ' What is the Purpose of Religion?' There is no purpose to religion's, but there is a purpose to God the creator of you, me & all that resides on this beautiful earth. Without him nothing would exist. Purpose? yes. Beautiful Earth? You would be scared if you could see the true image of the earth. Also what expansion the so-called earth has. That such a thing could exist. Him? There are no genders in the other layers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Origin said: Purpose? yes. Beautiful Earth? You would be scared if you could see the true image of the earth. Also what expansion the so-called earth has. That such a thing could exist. Him? There are no genders in the other layers. I sort of agree with @alexa on the subject of beauty in our world. Being in nature I see incredible beauty; the trees, flowers, animals. It is important not to forget that. However, I don't see human society as equally beautiful. Unfortunately human society often overshadows the fact that we live in a world with incredible biodiversity and beauty. Human society is still largely unconscious, sadly. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, Origin said: Also what expansion the so-called earth has I know the earth's expanse is bigger than what we are told. they hide this extra-terrestrial land and the fact that it exists. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 minutes ago, alexa said: I know the earth's expanse is bigger than what we are told. they hide this extra-terrestrial land and the fact that it exists. That which has no name is a cosmic wonder. And none of this is the tiny construct that the flat earth dreams of. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Origin said: That which has no name is a cosmic wonder. I'll settle for this Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Ethel said: I sort of agree with @alexa on the subject of beauty in our world. Being in nature I see incredible beauty; the trees, flowers, animals. It is important not to forget that. However, I don't see human society as equally beautiful. Unfortunately human society often overshadows the fact that we live in a world with incredible biodiversity and beauty. Human society is still largely unconscious, sadly. The so-called earth is 99.99% inaccessible to humans. We see beauty that is perceptible on a tiny spectrum. But I understand what you mean. There is no linear development. Everything exists simultaneously. At least as far as this layering is concerned. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 8 minutes ago, alexa said: I'll settle for this It deserves this superlative. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 It's obvious. The purpose of religion is to misdirect you so that you'll never find the truth. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webtrekker Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 2 hours ago, alexa said: I know the earth's expanse is bigger than what we are told. they hide this extra-terrestrial land and the fact that it exists. 'What should we do with all this extra land God?' 'Ah, just sweep it under the ice wall, there's a good chap. They'll never notice!.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shabbirss Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 there are things in existence that are way beyond human eyes. personally, i believe religion came as a gift from the heavens, to guide the MASSES into creating a connection to the Creator / Source. --however, as time went by, Man's ego and self importance hijacked it, --to the extent that the "scholars" put themslves between the Creator and us, --and they end up twisting everything about, some intentionally and some unintentionally. The Word of God / Creator / Source is written all around us 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 57 minutes ago, shabbirss said: there are things in existence that are way beyond human eyes. I was watching the latest Max Igan video last night and he talked about red night vision goggles used in the Vietnam war that allowed soldiers to see demons. I thought this to be too weird to be true, but here is a video that suggest that it might be. Evidently there are things beyond human eyesight. Demonic Entities Seen in Vietnam Through Red Night Vision Goggles 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted November 3, 2022 Share Posted November 3, 2022 4 hours ago, Origin said: The so-called earth is 99.99% inaccessible to humans. We see beauty that is perceptible on a tiny spectrum. I just realized what you were saying. I have long believed that the world is much bigger than we are told it is. In fact, we have no idea how big it is, really. I strongly doubt someone walked around it with a measuring wheel. Also the world map that most of us are used to seeing is apparently wrong, but again this would kind of lead to another "how would we know?" scenario. Either way, most of what it exists cannot be processed by our ocular nerves. Hallucinogenics can go some small way to opening up people's field of vision. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 (edited) "What is the Purpose of Religion?" There's so many different types of religion and the question appears to be trying to generalise. I'd say both purpose and religion are human creations, therefore are we wishing to create something monolithic; something which expresses our individuality; or perhaps a mixture? For myself I realised some time ago, after trying and failing to belong to various traditions, that I'm better off being religiously self-employed. I've found meaning and purpose in searching for a reconciliation between unity and diversity. Wholeness and fragmentation. Earlier in the thread @shabbirss said 'everything is connected'. Well, that's true if you've got a belief that there are multiple 'things' which need connecting up. How about if reality is only one 'thing' which just appears fragmented because that's how our minds work? What if the distinctions between things are relative to our thoughts? Are the waves in the ocean connected together, or is it just all one ocean? It could be both depending on your perspective. If you want to divide it up into waves, what's connecting them is the rest of the deep ocean, which is far larger. In broader terms, the relationship between things is the rest of the universe. It's not so much divide and rule, but divide and relate. Edited November 4, 2022 by Campion 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Origin Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 15 hours ago, Ethel said: I just realized what you were saying. I have long believed that the world is much bigger than we are told it is. In fact, we have no idea how big it is, really. I strongly doubt someone walked around it with a measuring wheel. Also the world map that most of us are used to seeing is apparently wrong, but again this would kind of lead to another "how would we know?" scenario. Either way, most of what it exists cannot be processed by our ocular nerves. Hallucinogenics can go some small way to opening up people's field of vision. I don't think it's a world. And I'm not talking about land either. Nor am I talking about planets, or the primitive notions of a so-called universe. I know first hand that there is no map that can accurately represent reality. And I know that so far it has not incorporated anything to advance into the unknown. All that humans know, and that only with the help of external influences, is a molecule of something that is infinite. The little men in charge who think they rule over the masses don't know anything. They know fragments of what they could not find themselves. I find it hilarious that they are still trying to tell humans that they control this Reality. Without direct interference and exposure in our small spectrum, nothing happens. There is no magic drug to be able to advance unasked into other domains. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCP Posted November 4, 2022 Share Posted November 4, 2022 I've often wondered about the purpose of religion. Could it be that it was created by the ancient Archons as a control mechanism? I don't hold any 'beliefs' about it one way or the other because I have no way of knowing. I used to think that religion was different groups interpretation of creation, but with the division it causes, it could also be used for control. Understanding that we cannot know keeps the search for the truth alive, and all possibilities on the table. I refuse to have blind faith in anything because someone told me it was so. I question everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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