Everything is an illusion- so the vaccine is illusion as well

[AngelGabriel]

David always says everything is an illusion so why is the vaccine a problem? I haven’t had it and won’t because I was never afraid of “covid”. But why are we telling all the people that have that there is nothing they can do about it? If we are really all there is and are basically all powerful than shouldn’t the vaccines be a non-issue? 
 

[Talorgan]

11 minutes ago, AngelGabriel said:

David always says everything is an illusion so why is the vaccine a problem? I haven’t had it and won’t because I was never afraid of “covid”. But why are we telling all the people that have that there is nothing they can do about it? If we are really all there is and are basically all powerful than shouldn’t the vaccines be a non-issue? 
 

Must to be ways to detox as is for Morgellons on physical level .eg herbal medicine etc 

Toxins  probably just stop people accessing their higher self /consciousness so any way to detox must be answer including spiritual awareness and living without fear

[novymir]

3 hours ago, AngelGabriel said:

David always says everything is an illusion so why is the vaccine a problem? I haven’t had it and won’t because I was never afraid of “covid”. But why are we telling all the people that have that there is nothing they can do about it? If we are really all there is and are basically all powerful than shouldn’t the vaccines be a non-issue? 
 

Yes, to the title.

 

It's like russian roulette, it would seem to depend on a variety of factors specific to individuals.

 

Yeah, it's all an illusion....so is the body...but we unwittingly(?) signed on to an experience of danger, risk, deterioration, and death, and the mind is conjuring up evermore ways to experience it...we couldn't have known what the unknowable and the nonsensicle would be like>>>this illusury world....only Reality can be Known, anything else is a fiction.

[Tav]

 

It is not clearly understood what is meant by an 'illusion'. Most people use it as a convenient way to describe what this reality is---in the best way it can be conveyed.

 

Illusion is closer to an appearance ---a false overlay on an underlying reality---it does not mean that it is non-existent. 

 

It means it exists by temporarily transforming something More Real (but Not Ultimate Truth because Ultimate Truth cannot be Touched) into a Temporary Falsity (something that will not last in form eternally)—like making chairs or table out of wood.

 

The chair is physically real but not True because it came out of Transformation of something More Real and that something More Real in turn ...arose out of the Ultimate source. 

 

The illusion is when the perceiver does not see what the object is part of—the bigger picture. Or Is unwilling to trace the source. 

 

For one who can see the wood in the chair---good...but even better find out Why the Chair exists? 

 

In Matrix kind of movies—they tell you ''there is no spoon'' but then What is it..if not a spoon? They never take you deeper than that-- and thousand of confused people sit and try to imagine there is no spoon, go to sleep and next morning they go work in an office/ factory/ warehouse as slaves---with both themselves and the spoon being very much real. 

As is the sense of hunger and thirst they have and also the need for physical shelter--

 

if the vaccine is an illusion so is the body and so neither disease nor harm can befall it, right? You cannot have a real body and a fake vaccine. Both are of the same world---so both must be illusion or neither is an illusion. 

 

It is in fact the perceiver/ experiencer who is under the illusion.

 

The vaccine is an object within the encompassing cloud cover of illusion that can help you break through the veil of illusion.

 

In fact every single thing in life and in this world---including the constant fear of death can be used as a tool to peel away the layers of illusion.

 

The one who breaks the illusion---and can see why there is a push for the vaccine---is already free of the hold of the illusion.

 

But one who sees the vaccine as illusion but his body as real will find that vaccine, and medicines--- just like food and water ---do affect the body while you both –the body and the medicine---exist within the same illusion.

 

In other words, as long you think you are the body, the medicine is also very much real and all due precautions must be taken.

 

That is the ground level fight against external forces that has no end. It will take one form or the other. In a couple of years, people will be fighting for clean drinking water and edible food. This story can be taken as far as the body identification is still left...even residual..and that includes identification with extensions of ourselves---family, country etc.

 

Since the vaccine is an object in your perception, it is not the vaccine that has to be set free. No need to keep trying to bend spoons---there are technical ways to do that using the reverse process that brought the objects to existence---
but unless you yourself are set free—there will always be a new object that will appear to harm you---in a a very very real way. 

 

Because it is also programmed within the Nature of the Illusion to keep trying to wake you up as the show goes on... 

 

[Talorgan]

On 10/31/2022 at 5:17 PM, Tav said:

 

It is not clearly understood what is meant by an 'illusion'. Most people use it as a convenient way to describe what this reality is---in the best way it can be conveyed.

 

Illusion is closer to an appearance ---a false overlay on an underlying reality---it does not mean that it is non-existent. 

 

It means it exists by temporarily transforming something More Real (but Not Ultimate Truth because Ultimate Truth cannot be Touched) into a Temporary Falsity (something that will not last in form eternally)—like making chairs or table out of wood.

 

The chair is physically real but not True because it came out of Transformation of something More Real and that something More Real in turn ...arose out of the Ultimate source. 

 

The illusion is when the perceiver does not see what the object is part of—the bigger picture. Or Is unwilling to trace the source. 

 

For one who can see the wood in the chair---good...but even better find out Why the Chair exists? 

 

In Matrix kind of movies—they tell you ''there is no spoon'' but then What is it..if not a spoon? They never take you deeper than that-- and thousand of confused people sit and try to imagine there is no spoon, go to sleep and next morning they go work in an office/ factory/ warehouse as slaves---with both themselves and the spoon being very much real. 

As is the sense of hunger and thirst they have and also the need for physical shelter--

 

if the vaccine is an illusion so is the body and so neither disease nor harm can befall it, right? You cannot have a real body and a fake vaccine. Both are of the same world---so both must be illusion or neither is an illusion. 

 

It is in fact the perceiver/ experiencer who is under the illusion.

 

The vaccine is an object within the encompassing cloud cover of illusion that can help you break through the veil of illusion.

 

In fact every single thing in life and in this world---including the constant fear of death can be used as a tool to peel away the layers of illusion.

 

The one who breaks the illusion---and can see why there is a push for the vaccine---is already free of the hold of the illusion.

 

But one who sees the vaccine as illusion but his body as real will find that vaccine, and medicines--- just like food and water ---do affect the body while you both –the body and the medicine---exist within the same illusion.

 

In other words, as long you think you are the body, the medicine is also very much real and all due precautions must be taken.

 

That is the ground level fight against external forces that has no end. It will take one form or the other. In a couple of years, people will be fighting for clean drinking water and edible food. This story can be taken as far as the body identification is still left...even residual..and that includes identification with extensions of ourselves---family, country etc.

 

Since the vaccine is an object in your perception, it is not the vaccine that has to be set free. No need to keep trying to bend spoons---there are technical ways to do that using the reverse process that brought the objects to existence---
but unless you yourself are set free—there will always be a new object that will appear to harm you---in a a very very real way. 

 

Because it is also programmed within the Nature of the Illusion to keep trying to wake you up as the show goes on... 

 

We appear to be more or less tuned into this limited range of frequencies and probably others are tuned into other ranges some which might be flexible enough to overlap by various means or at certain times etc.

As David Icke  I think puts it clearly Perception leads to behaviour 

so whoever understands how to manipulate our perceptions can alter our behaviour here and now .

So those who perceive a   vaccine  as it is marketed to them unfortunately  might take it but those who  investigate  it's ingredients  can see it as harmful don't take it .

Hence attempts to suppress  the knowledge of vaccines  ingredients etc

(And  knowledge in general eg  burning of Library of  Alexandria / native wisdoms or today's  digital deletions )

Behavioural sciences understanding how we perceive ,public relations and marketing or propaganda are key to this.

Also sciences or occult methods of control

from this world or otherwise.

But as we are more or less fixed in interpreting this world it would only be a Flyer or some such  who could overcome it perhaps .

Or what do I know perhaps  perhaps we are entering an   another  band

or entering alignment with 

dark rift in universe and this might change things ? 

Eg like John Major Jenkins was writing back in 2012 or Geof Stray in "Beyond 2012" 

Or perhaps that's just perceptions too?

 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Talorgan

[Talorgan]

 I mean dark rift in Milky Way Galaxy which we aligning with or perceive to be?

Edited November 2, 2022 by Talorgan

[Tav]

6 hours ago, Talorgan said:

Or perhaps that's just perceptions too?

 

Well..at the most basic level it is all perception---we are playing out a story that has a basic outline---so to break the illusion within that outline--the same perception will need to be used to see through it...Which means the power of perception works both ways.

 

4 hours ago, Talorgan said:

 I mean dark rift in Milky Way Galaxy which we aligning with or perceive to be?

 

We are coming towards the end of a cycle in this perceived story-line---an End to many/ and-or Transformation of what remains.

 

our Perception and Labels will tell us what stage of the Cycle it is---what we see as galactic movements, cosmic shifts, solar flares, magnetic field disruptions etc. are interpretations within our Current state of Perception of what an Ending looks like.

 

In another state of Perception, it will be something else.

 

All our scientific instruments, NASA imagery are there to tell us when the signs we Should Perceive as the End of the Cycle are arriving---not 'arriving' geographically as in travelling to/from somewhere---but 'manifesting' within the limitations of our Perception. 

 

 

 

Edited November 2, 2022 by Tav

[Macnamara]

On 10/30/2022 at 9:36 PM, AngelGabriel said:

David always says everything is an illusion so why is the vaccine a problem?

 

this reality has laws for example if you step off a cliff you will plummet to the ground

 

If you take a gun and shoot yourself in the head you will likely die

 

if you take a jab that is poisonous it will harm you

[Talorgan]

But if we trust politicians , doctors and experts that tell us it is safe we still get poisoning and probably blame it on something else

[Macnamara]

15 minutes ago, Talorgan said:

But if we trust politicians , doctors and experts that tell us it is safe we still get poisoning and probably blame it on something else

 

if they get their way they will blame it on 'right wing extremists' which is their catch-all term for anyone who doesn't kowtow to the globalists great reset

[Mr H]

On 10/30/2022 at 3:36 PM, AngelGabriel said:

David always says everything is an illusion so why is the vaccine a problem? I haven’t had it and won’t because I was never afraid of “covid”. But why are we telling all the people that have that there is nothing they can do about it? If we are really all there is and are basically all powerful than shouldn’t the vaccines be a non-issue? 
 

Well I think you maybe confused with david's message. Because in your statement you seem to imply that you are both a human and also infinite consciousness. Now you cannot be both of these things when we speak! If you are infinite consciousness then that's your lot I'm afraid!!!! :)

 

In this way you are speaking in the absolute (truth) and not the relative (illusion). Yes it is true to say that YOU, will not die from the vaccine or from anything. YOU i this context can and never will die. Covid is not an issue, Klaus is not an issue, Kill Gates is not an issue - they are all essentially you...............

 

But there is the illusiory world. We experience it so we cannot deny it exists. Illusion meaning not what it seems.........

 

In this relative context, we can speak about the vaccine harming the body, Klaus and his crazy plans etc, because it does affect the character in the movie.

 

You cannot speak about the absolute and relative at the same time. It's impossible and often contradictory. 

 

 

Edited November 15, 2022 by Mr H

[Mr H]

On 10/30/2022 at 3:36 PM, AngelGabriel said:

David always says ....If we are really all there is and are basically all powerful than shouldn’t the vaccines be a non-issue? 
 

This is a common mistake people make when it is not explained to them properly when they hear the message you are all that there ever is and ever could be etc without the proper explaination. 

 

Because average Joe is fully enshrined in the belief as to what they are is a body mind, or Average Joe himself. They then read this message and become a spiritual narcissist - well sometimes anyways....... they then believe that they as a human can defy the laws that govern this reality and can do all kinds of magic and won't be harmed etc.....They appropriate truth onto illusion - the human experience. Not possible.

 

The human being is an experience with limitations. The human body is prone to sickness and will eventually die or transform into something else. Just a good job that what you are is not really human