What have The Conservatives ever done for us?

[Nefaria]

While we can all agree the whole political system is bollocks and undemocratic, today’s political class a bunch of self serving wankers, at least a Labour government created the NHS….

 

But could someone please tell me what The Conservatives have ever done for ordinary working class people….?  I cannot think of a single thing.

[Nefaria]

I rest my case

[Macnamara]

10 hours ago, Nefaria said:

at least a Labour government created the NHS….

 

is that the NHS that has been used to launch a nationwide programme of genocide through covid bioweapon jabs and midazolam-morphine-remdesivir death pathways?

Edited October 25, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

10 hours ago, Nefaria said:

But could someone please tell me what The Conservatives have ever done for ordinary working class people….?  I cannot think of a single thing.

 

the current government is not a 'conservative' government. Its as much of a globalist, statist, collectivist government as the labour party is

 

That's the problem: there is no alternative

Edited October 25, 2022 by Macnamara

[Nefaria]

5 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

is that the NHS that has been used to launch a nationwide programme of genocide through covid bioweapon jabs and midazolam-morphine-remdesivir death pathways?

They were operating under the directives of the government.

 

Would you really prefer forking out for private health care rather than using something that’s free at point of service?

[Macnamara]

5 minutes ago, Nefaria said:

They were operating under the directives of the government.

 

if a doctor is unable to think for themself then that just shows how dangerous statism is

 

5 minutes ago, Nefaria said:

Would you really prefer forking out for private health care rather than using something that’s free at point of service?

 

its not free: the state taxes us to pay for it

 

the NHS jabs children daily whilst telling people that they are the 'experts' and people like me are crazy 'conspiracy theorists'

 

meanwhile autism is going from 1 on 10,000 children to 1 in 30 in the last few decades , mens sperm counts have dropped by over half in the last few decades, gender identity confusion has gone off the charts along with autoimmune disorders and diabetes etc

 

In all of this mess the NHS represents an immoveable, intransigent juggernaut that is unwilling to hear anything that challenges the financial interests of big pharma

Edited October 25, 2022 by Macnamara

[bamboozooka]

nothing when you swear your allegiance to a monarchy.

same as the military, police, lawyers

 

none of them show allegiance to the people

[Macnamara]

40% of the national budget going down the black hole of the NHS!!! Something is going seriously wrong in this country

 

how come we are spending more and more money on 'health' and yet more and more people are becoming sick and the healthcare system is just becoming more and more of a bloated, obese basketcase?

How the NHS now dominates public spending

Health and social care will soon account for 40 per cent of the UK government’s day-to-day spending, up from 30 per cent a decade ago.

By Nicu Calcea

https://www.newstatesman.com/chart-of-the-day/2021/09/how-the-nhs-now-dominates-public-spending

[Observations]

19 hours ago, Macnamara said:

Health and social care will soon account for 40 per cent of the UK government’s day-to-day spending, up from 30 per cent a decade ago.

 

Thanks. Absolutely fascinating; is it really that much? Can you imagine if even some of that was put into the roots of the country, to nurture physical health and community interests. The real areas of human health. They just love squandering and siphoning the cash don't they?

 

People do not generally get to see where every penny of their contributions are going. 

 

Edited October 26, 2022 by Observations

[Macnamara]

1 hour ago, Observations said:

 Can you imagine if even some of that was put into the roots of the country, to nurture physical health and community interests.

 

yes i can

 

what the statists are doing is taking tax from the working man and woman and then they are channelling all that money to the big pharma corporations which are owned by dark luciferians

[Grumpy Owl]

On 10/25/2022 at 9:29 AM, Nefaria said:

While we can all agree the whole political system is bollocks and undemocratic, today’s political class a bunch of self serving wankers, at least a Labour government created the NHS….

 

But could someone please tell me what The Conservatives have ever done for ordinary working class people….?  I cannot think of a single thing.

 

Over the course of the last 25 years, you can equally ask the same question of the Labour party.

 

After the untimely 'demise' of John Smith in 1994 which saw Tony Blair become Labour leader, it can be argued that this was the point where Labour stopped being the party of the 'working class'.

 

The Labour government from 1997 to 2010 were equally a bunch of "self-serving wankers". And if they 'win' the next General Election, which is what will happen, don't expect anything to change.

 

Your question is very 'loaded', and presumes that 'one evil is better than the other'. Which is exactly the problem that the USA has, where they argue amongst themselves about the 'choice' between Republicans and Democrats.

 

In my opinion, both the Labour and Conservative parties are bad for this country, and both are following the same globalist agenda, so it is pointless trying to argue for/against the merits of either, as all you do is 'reinforce the narrative' that there is no other choice.

 

 

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

On 10/25/2022 at 2:42 PM, Macnamara said:

 

is that the NHS that has been used to launch a nationwide programme of genocide through covid bioweapon jabs and midazolam-morphine-remdesivir death pathways?

in name only. The NHS that was created by Labour was a different thing altogether.

[Macnamara]

brexit

 

unfortunately the political class in both labour and the fake-conservatives have said ''ok we will give you brexit but we will take 3 years to deliver it and in the meantime we will continue to pay tens of billions of pounds of your tax payers money to the EU and we will continue to flood migrants into this country because we hate you and we are going to destroy britain whether we are in the EU or not.....so what are you going to do about it? now take your damn vaccine''

[Campion]

On 11/4/2022 at 7:48 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

Over the course of the last 25 years, you can equally ask the same question of the Labour party.

 

After the untimely 'demise' of John Smith in 1994 which saw Tony Blair become Labour leader, it can be argued that this was the point where Labour stopped being the party of the 'working class'.

 

The Labour government from 1997 to 2010 were equally a bunch of "self-serving wankers". And if they 'win' the next General Election, which is what will happen, don't expect anything to change.

 

Your question is very 'loaded', and presumes that 'one evil is better than the other'. Which is exactly the problem that the USA has, where they argue amongst themselves about the 'choice' between Republicans and Democrats.

 

In my opinion, both the Labour and Conservative parties are bad for this country, and both are following the same globalist agenda, so it is pointless trying to argue for/against the merits of either, as all you do is 'reinforce the narrative' that there is no other choice.

 

The voting systems (and funding of parties) we have results in space for only two effective political parties in each nation, meaning that  Labour and Tories both go for the middle ground which is largely made up of those middle-class, middle-income, educated liberal voters, who are the swing voters. The traditional working class have nowhere else to go apart from Labour, and the upper class high-earners likewise have nowhere else to go apart from Tory. Therefore there's less motivation for either party to worry about their traditional base. The middle ground is more amenable to globalism, multiculturalism and corporatism because they haven't seen the straws in the wind of the encroaching cryptocracy. 

 

So the Tories become more socialist and Labour becomes more capitalist. This was upset a little in the 2019 election when the Red Wall was persuaded to vote Tory because of one-off factors like Labour's stance on Brexit and the populism of Boris, but this may well be overturned next time. However you only need to persuade people to vote for you, not actually do the policies because we've got such short attention spans.  We've been trapped in this political hamster wheel since the beginning of democracy. 

Edited November 6, 2022 by Campion