What is this "awakening" David Icke talks about he had?

[JCP]

3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think i have managed to remove fear. For me its just a question of whether or not other things might over-ride the fear....like stubborness

 

 I used to be stubborn earlier in life, but that gave way to leaning more on instinct and intellect. Being stubborn seemed to get in my way by keeping my mind closed and my beliefs rigid. Today I use intuition and try to keep my beliefs flexible.

 

I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear.

Nelson Mandela

 

 

[Campion]

On 12/6/2022 at 10:26 PM, Macnamara said:

i don't have a problem with that. What i'm interested in is how that then translates into actual positive change in peoples lives. In other words how are they then becoming part of the solution instead of part of the problem? How are they upsetting the NWO apple cart?

 

For me the spiritual practices like meditation and mindfulness help me to focus, pay attention and observe what's going on without my mind being distracted and led in certain directions by the agenda. I can observe and 'let go of' the reactions going on in my mind when, for example, watching TV without getting lost into them and having my desires, emotions and thought patterns manipulated.  At least some of the time, I'm not an expert at this self-awareness.   

 

Edited December 8, 2022 by Campion

[Macnamara]

16 hours ago, JCP said:

 

 I used to be stubborn earlier in life, but that gave way to leaning more on instinct and intellect. Being stubborn seemed to get in my way by keeping my mind closed and my beliefs rigid. Today I use intuition and try to keep my beliefs flexible.

 

some stubborness can help you listen to that intuition over the shouting of society eg the covid scamdemic

[Certified Green of Heart]

3 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

some stubborness can help you listen to that intuition over the shouting of society eg the covid scamdemic

 

Agreed on principle, about hearing/ heeding one's own (inner) voice, but society is one LOUD MO FO.... So all the more important I agree in that sense..

 

However... 

 

Mainly I will agree with JCP on that about Stubborness at least from the non-flexible angle, coz I think if *overly worn stubborness* is working too hard ways, it can work harder then (consciously or not) in making a negative thought more negative if one is not careful, and so impacting one's own physiology/ psychology, and so if discomfort of that becomes a thing of concern for overall health, well then starting with what JCP said, it can be limiting and reduce flexiblity for when new problems arise at the very least.....

Stubborness of an elected task, probably is a way of portraying IF CHOSEN TO BE a NECESSARY THING aware that is creating a limited focus (not necessarily limiting instinct or intellect but I sure wouldn't be surprised if it did)....but with this knowledge of its downside, if good to pursue, then ok for intent purposes for the pulling of mental resources into one objective, but things can quickly become too one dimensional in terms of where energy is focused, particularly if doing that all the time where it can become wearing on a person. Depends on how good a persons stamina is (Mac's seems infinite, well done to you!!) and how was their general health in the first instance I suppose - about how good an idea it is... or just simply how hard to force it without it becoming counter intuitive or counter productive to whatever the aim etc...

Edited December 8, 2022 by Certified Green of Heart

[Certified Green of Heart]

23 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

i don't think i have managed to remove fear. For me its just a question of whether or not other things might over-ride the fear....like stubborness

 

Ah, now that's interesting!.....Meanwhile I wouldn't want to encourage people to become too confident out in the Wild West of todays world.... 

 

Fear I will always have probably..... but I like and respect what JCP seems to have made possible.

[JCP]

59 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

some stubborness can help you listen to that intuition over the shouting of society eg the covid scamdemic

 

 Stubbornness can absolutely be a virtue, and it can humble us too. There's a delicate balance as when to apply it.

 

My Mom was so stubborn sometimes that I nicknamed her "hammerhead". When she thought she was right, she would unyieldingly stand her ground (even if she wasn't). I inherited that from her and I had to temper it when I got older. I reasoned that it wasn't logical to be stubborn about something that I wasn't totally sure about; and as time goes on, I came to realize how little I actually do "know" ....... not only with the limited perception of humans that DI talks about; but also the many lies embedded in history and the misinformation we're taught at school, in media, etc.

 

Bruce Lee taught me to be like water ............................................................. 

 

“Be like water making its way through cracks. Do not be assertive, but adjust to the object, and you shall find a way around or through it. If nothing within you stays rigid, outward things will disclose themselves. Empty your mind, be formless, shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle and it becomes the bottle. You put it in a teapot it becomes the teapot. Now, water can flow or it can crash. Be water, my friend.”

 

 

Instead of looking at things in terms as being absolute truths or falsehoods, I have tried to reformat my mind to see things as possibilities and probabilities, and applying a percentage. This helps to keep my opinions flexible and me open minded with nothing ever scoring 100%. There is always another way to look at things.

 

 

[Certified Green of Heart]

 

[Campion]

On 12/6/2022 at 1:46 AM, Mr H said:

If you listen to David Icke he will tell you the same as what I am telling you. You are not a person you are in his words infinite consciousness and what you think is you is a point of attention of infinite consciousness. Or he might say you are consciousness having a human experience.

 

I had an awakening which reminds me of David's ideas, although rather more ordinary. I followed the teaching in a meditation book called The Mind Illuminated by John Yates / Culadasa which gives a practical approach to contemplating attention (point of focus) and peripheral awareness (unbounded consciousness). I can see how attention creates things out of the sea of awareness, which in turn creates consciousness out of subconsciousness. I don't have infinite consciousness in the sense of omniscience of course, but perhaps 'Boundless Awareness' is a better term  (and that's the name of another good book too by Michael Rodriguez). 

Edited December 11, 2022 by Campion

[Mr H]

On 12/11/2022 at 4:30 AM, Campion said:

 

I had an awakening which reminds me of David's ideas, although rather more ordinary. I followed the teaching in a meditation book called The Mind Illuminated by John Yates / Culadasa which gives a practical approach to contemplating attention (point of focus) and peripheral awareness (unbounded consciousness). I can see how attention creates things out of the sea of awareness, which in turn creates consciousness out of subconsciousness. I don't have infinite consciousness in the sense of omniscience of course, but perhaps 'Boundless Awareness' is a better term  (and that's the name of another good book too by Michael Rodriguez). 

Thanks for the share amazing.

 

In my experience though consciousness is not created, it is the substance from which all things exist and are created.

 

Attention comes from Latin attendre means to stretch out, so it is a stretching out of consciousness upon an objective experience.

[Campion]

7 hours ago, Mr H said:

Thanks for the share amazing.

 

In my experience though consciousness is not created, it is the substance from which all things exist and are created.

 

Attention comes from Latin attendre means to stretch out, so it is a stretching out of consciousness upon an objective experience.

 

Nice, I often check out the etymology of words which shows how much wisdom there was in the ancient worlds of Greece and Rome where many English words originated, and their Indo-Aryan predecessors. 

 

Another example is 'exist', from ex+ sistare to stand out. Existence is that which stands out in our awareness, ie what we're focused on, giving attention to. So in that sense, we create reality and existence although I don't mean it in some grand metaphysical theory, it's just my experience in this moment.