Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: I very much doubt that there was an individual called hiram abiff who founded freemasonry Hiram abiff is the masonic christ figure who is raised from his grave in the 'third degree' by king solomon. Hiram is killed by being struck three times symbolising the death of spirit through the failure to use thought, care and action. I know that a lot of the writings are based on allegory. My meaning was though, that the ex did read a few random books at my prompting to try to understand the hostility from some quarters and found nothing in the particular books he read that shed any light on that. Hence, he, and doubtlessly many others who are normal, lower ranking lodge members, just have zero inkling of the dark goings on at the top. The same, I surmise, as most average citizens having zero inkling of the corruption in the governments who they queue up to vote into power. I don't want to give the impression I'm pro Masons - far from it - but I do get annoyed at a general assumption and sharing of misinformation asserting that anyone in a lodge is a willing participant in evil carrying conduct, because that's just simply not true, as I know from 1st hand experience. The reality that I've seen 1st hand is that they are simply normal blokes who just enjoy what they perceive to be the innocent comaraderie of being in a club together and striving to do good for local charities. Again, I have no doubt whatsoever that there is the usual shit at the top, secretly up to all manner of unwholesome and manipulative monstrosities, but anyone who thinks that applies to them all is mistaken. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said: However, apparently that declaration requirement was put a stop to by Jack Straw! that's the critical piece of information there and it doesn't just relate to police, it relates to JUDGES too scottish politician tam dalyell claimed that tony blair was told to take britain into the war in iraq by a 'jewish cabal' that was surrounding him made up of jack straw, peter mandelson and lord levy. When he finished in politics blair went to work for rockefeller bank JP Morgan chase now of course those people are just middle manager level gophers of the cabal higher-ups like the rothschilds. peter mandelson would famously holiday with the rothschilds and the oligarch oleg deripaska 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, webtrekker said: MM. Brother-in-law was WM. I believe that everyone in a lodge gets to ba a WM in succession for a year if they're there long enough. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) Alfred Pike 1809/1891 US Scottish Rite who wrote morals and dogmas said as much that we will spin lower masons mysteries stories and keep the truths for the above Edited October 18, 2022 by Talorgan 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 13 minutes ago, Macnamara said: no its not as simple as that. I think most people at grassroots level join to improve their work or business prospects. Those that join because their family member is involved are likely informed by their family member that membership will convey advantages in life Not understanding what an organisation is about or where your money is going is not a good excuse for joining a group. the dark occultists control institutionalised LODGE freemasonry and they are the people behind all the things that conspiracy theorists talk about like ritual abuse and corruption and so on so if you join their hierarchical pyramid even at a low level your due money is going to be going into their pocket Well the couple of people here who've actually experienced it themselves or are closely related to any who've ecperienecd it can state categorically that you're wrong. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: I know that a lot of the writings are based on allegory. My meaning was though, that the ex did read a few random books at my prompting to try to understand the hostility from some quarters and found nothing in the particular books he read that shed any light on that. mark passio would say that the occult symbols have dual meaning and there is light and dark freemasonry. Good freemasons build with light as they try to enlighten the masses whilst dark masons build with bricks as they seek to brick up the third eye of the masses and keep them in ignorance He does however unequivocally say that dark masonry runs the lodge 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 33 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Well the couple of people here who've actually experienced it themselves or are closely related to any who've ecperienecd it can state categorically that you're wrong. most porch masons are clueless about what they are a part of Edited October 18, 2022 by Macnamara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Macnamara said: that's the critical piece of information there and it doesn't just relate to police, it relates to JUDGES too scottish politician tam dalyell claimed that tony blair was told to take britain into the war in iraq by a 'jewish cabal' that was surrounding him made up of jack straw, peter mandelson and lord levy. When he finished in politics blair went to work for rockefeller bank JP Morgan chase now of course those people are just middle manager level gophers of the cabal higher-ups like the rothschilds. peter mandelson would famously holiday with the rothschilds and the oligarch oleg deripaska For the record, anything involving Straw has a black shadow cast over it in my book. Edited October 18, 2022 by Tinfoil Hat 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Macnamara said: i've forgotten more occult knowledge then most porch masons will ever know That sums it up then. I wouldn't question that you've researched it thoroughly. Simply that the aspersions cast on the typical, normal grade Masons are unjustified. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Just now, Tinfoil Hat said: That sums it up then. I wouldn't question that you've researched it thoroughly. Simply that the aspersions cast on the typical, normal grade Masons are unjustified. that does not remove their personal responsibility for what they feed with their time, money and attention and that attitude i also apply to myself and to EVERYTHING, not just freemasonry. if you are a freemason and you are reading this then what i'd say is that the upper echelons of freemasonry will not have taken the covid bioweapon jab. If they did not inform you as the lower ranks of freemasonry NOT to take that jab then that should tell you everything you need to know about how they really see you: as expendable 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 I see some truth in that @Macnamara but yet the rebel in me says fuck this having to feel guilty & responsible all the time for the evils of others who have tricked us since birth. And fuck those who are truly responsible all the way to hell. (Pardon my French but I feel this sentiment very strongly indeed). 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: I see some truth in that @Macnamara but yet the rebel in me says fuck this having to feel guilty & responsible all the time for the evils of others who have tricked us since birth. And fuck those who are truly responsible all the way to hell. (Pardon my French but I feel this sentiment very strongly indeed). the way to 'fuck' those people is to withdraw all support for all of their endeavours Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, Macnamara said: the way to 'fuck' those people is to withdraw all support for all of their endeavours Yes, but easier said than done though, even for those of us who like to think we're a bit wise to the corrouption, when they have their tendrils in every. single. thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Yes, but easier said than done though, even for those of us who like to think we're a bit wise to the corrouption, when they have their tendrils in every. single. thing. the process has to start somewhere 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Golden Retriever said: Friend of another alleged Freemason Sir Jimmy Savile with a love of Israel Former secretary of the Paedophile Information Exchange (Pie), Keith Harding, who was also a known prolific paedophile, was made Worshipful Master of the Mercurius Lodge In Cheltenham in 2011. https://newspunch.com/paedophile-freemason-ran-lodge-for-official-uk-spy-agency/ GCHQ is the main surveillance body in the UK: Paedophile Mason ran lodge set up for GCHQ ONE OF Britain’s most influential paedophiles was the head of a Masonic lodge founded and frequented by GCHQ spies. By James Fielding 19:10, Sat, May 23, 2015 | UPDATED: 19:35, Sat, May 23, 2015 Keith Harding, former membership secretary of the Paedophile Information Exchange (Pie) was made Worshipful Master of the Mercurius Lodge in Cheltenham, Gloucestershire, in 2011. The child molester, who died last summer, presided over ceremonies and rituals from an ornate throne. Harding was convicted of an indecent assault against four children aged eight and nine in 1958 and classified a Schedule-1 offender, which meant the offence remained on his criminal record all his life. His name was also on a list of about 400 Pie members seized by police in 1984, the year the organisation disbanded. The Sunday Express revealed earlier this month how Harding met MPs Cyril Smith and Leon Brittan in the 1980s when he ran a north London antiques store. Thirty-five years ago he appeared alongside paedophile television presenter Jimmy Savile in a Christmas special of Jim’ll Fix It. The lodge boasts of its Government Communications Headquarters heritage on its website. https://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/579523/Paedophile-Mason-lodge-GCHQ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Talorgan said: Alfred Pike 1809/1891 US Scottish Rite who wrote morals and dogmas In Morals and Dogma he also wrote that freemasonry is two distinct fraternities, one of which is hidden within the outer shell of the other. Edited October 18, 2022 by TheConsultant 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 3 hours ago, Golden Retriever said: Who is the Corporation of the City of London REMEMBRANCER? Do you know what the Remembrancer is? City Remembrancer made a Master of Middle Temple https://www.jamestumbridge.com/news/city-remembrancer-made-master-middle-temple The Guardian rarely has an informative article, but this old one is definitely worth a read. https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2011/oct/31/corporation-london-city-medieval The medieval, unaccountable Corporation of London is ripe for protest In one respect at least the Corporation acts as the superior body: it imposes on the House of Commons a figure called the remembrancer: an official lobbyist who sits behind the Speaker's chair and ensures that, whatever our elected representatives might think, the City's rights and privileges are protected. The mayor of London's mandate stops at the boundaries of the Square Mile. There are, as if in a novel by China Miéville, two cities, one of which must unsee the other. Several governments have tried to democratise the City of London but all, threatened by its financial might, have failed. As Clement Attlee lamented, "over and over again we have seen that there is in this country another power than that which has its seat at Westminster." Remembrancer being in in prominent seat in Commons shows really how whole parliamentary democracy is with its endless Punch and Judy show and old ex chequer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) https://www.bitchute.com/video/Yhv9ZMby68Ig/ - 2010 AUSTRALIAN X-FACTOR WINNER ALTIYAN CHILDS EXPOSES FREEMASONRY anyone seen this 5 hour video on freemasons? Edited October 18, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: https://www.bitchute.com/video/Yhv9ZMby68Ig/ - 2010 AUSTRALIAN X-FACTOR WINNER ALTIYAN CHILDS EXPOSES FREEMASONRY anyone seen this 5 hour video on freemasons? Yes, I watched it on here maybe 3 years ago - it was posted when we were taling a lot about Pizzagate (but not a full 5 hours I think). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 2 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Yes, I watched it on here maybe 3 years ago - it was posted when we were taling a lot about Pizzagate (but not a full 5 hours I think). What do you know about pizzagate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 6 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: What do you know about pizzagate? There was a long thread on here with plenty of attached videos. I read the lot while feeling sick to the pit of my stomach, and actually crying at some of the things contained. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 Mod Note : Can we keep discussion of Pizzagate to threads about such and keep this one to Freemasons please (you may consider both intertwined and maybe they are but injecting other topics can only lead to off topic posts in regard to the thread subject) Pizzagate (just a couple of threads I searched for) Would guess that there are more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 19 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: There was a long thread on here with plenty of attached videos. I read the lot while feeling sick to the pit of my stomach, and actually crying at some of the things contained. Nothing compared to epstein island. but yes, beyond words vile. Edit: yep, noted didnt see your note. Edited October 18, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, TheConsultant said: In Morals and Dogma he also wrote that freemasonry is two distinct fraternities, one of which is hidden within the outer shell of the other. Need to correct that, it was Manly P Hall (aka Freemason of the century) in companion to Secret Teachings of All Ages chapter 19. "Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity - an outer organisation concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect" My mistake! Edited October 18, 2022 by TheConsultant 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lake Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 1 hour ago, Talorgan said: Remembrancer being in in prominent seat in Commons shows really how whole parliamentary democracy is with its endless Punch and Judy show and old ex chequer The main masonic halls do look like the house of commons. Which is this .... I currently live in Bristol and have in the past been given a 'tour' of the main masonic building. They show on there website 3 'lodge rooms' but I saw more than that. These are the 3 from their own site .... The person who offered me a 'tour' .... when the building was shut .... also gave me a sword (think of a Knight's sword) and we had a sword fight in one of the 'lodges'! Strange shit but hey! No .... I never became a mason :) 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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