Lucy Letby - Nurse on trial for murdering babies.

[numnuts]

On 11/16/2022 at 11:44 PM, Macnamara said:

looks like the on call doctor steered the parents away from agreeing to a postmortem of one of the murdered children so that they could not identify what was going on:

Doctor apologises in court to parents of baby boy 'murdered by nurse Lucy Letby' for not 'pushing' for post-mortem examination

• Neonatal nurse, 32, alleged to have administered fatal amount of air into Baby E
• The premature-born twin was the fourth baby said to have been killed by Letby
• A consultant paediatrician apologised to the baby's parents in court today
• Emotional doctor said she said she wished she had 'pushed' for post-mortem

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11436181/Doctor-apologises-court-parents-baby-boy-murdered-nurse-Lucy-Letby.html

 

More shameful journalism, by the Daily Masonical on this occasion. How on earth can it be ok to use the following text in a headline, even with the caveat of inverted commas? Do you think it might be possible that Letby suspected something nefarious was going on? Then, someone, from a certain crew, got wise to her suspicion and she was duly scapegoated? If so, then they could have easily screwed with her head, after accusing her.  

 

P.S. The Daily Masonical are entitled to run headlines like that, yet no comments are allowed on their article. Democracy at its finest... Ha ha ha.

 

Doctor apologises in court to parents of baby boy 'murdered by nurse Lucy Letby' for not 'pushing' for post-mortem examination.

Edited November 18, 2022 by numnuts

[Macnamara]

On 11/18/2022 at 6:51 PM, numnuts said:

 Do you think it might be possible that Letby suspected something nefarious was going on? Then, someone, from a certain crew, got wise to her suspicion and she was duly scapegoated?

 

I don't know what we are looking at here. I'm just exploring the information coming out

 

It appears we have two doctors that didn't take steps to help this baby and then misdiagnosed the cause of death whilst encouraging the parents not to have an autopsy that would have found the true cause of death. Now consider that prior to this baby 'E' dying a bunch of other babies had died in that same ward recently so with all those deaths you would think the doctors would be

a) on high alert

b) pushing for autopsies to find ANSWERS

 

So is letby part of something bigger and yet being scapegoated or is she innocent and being scapegoated or is she a crazy lone killer?

 

I don't know but if she is a crazy lone killer then we still have some questions to ask of the actions of these doctors don't we?

 

We know that there are enough people within the british system that are sick enough to jab the british population with covid bioweapons so the question is whether there are some that are brazen enough to kill babies directly in british hospitals?

 

[Artie Fufkin]

2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

I don't know what we are looking at here. I'm just exploring the information coming out

 

It appears we have two doctors that didn't take steps to help this baby and then misdiagnosed the cause of death whilst encouraging the parents not to have an autopsy that would have found the true cause of death. Now consider that prior to this baby 'E' dying a bunch of other babies had died in that same ward recently so with all those deaths you would think the doctors would be

a) on high alert

b) pushing for autopsies to find ANSWERS

 

So is letby part of something bigger and yet being scapegoated or is she innocent and being scapegoated or is she a crazy lone killer?

 

I don't know but if she is a crazy lone killer then we still have some questions to ask of the actions of these doctors don't we?

 

We know that there are enough people within the british system that are sick enough to jab the british population with covid bioweapons so the question is whether there are some that are brazen enough to kill babies directly in british hospitals?

 

Questions, questions.. is Letby a genuine psychopathic murderer, is she a victim of mind control, or a fictional character based ruse, invented to distract and confuse the general public? The poor children may have died, I'm questioning the overall NHS  infrastructure of 'care' at this time. What the fuck went wrong here?, it's not just a minor failure.  

[solowrist]

 

The BBC and ITV for have for years filled the viewing public's psyche with hospital soaps giving the notion of a caring NHS, but the reality of that nonsense is that the cemeteries are full of doctor’s mistakes and their medical shenanigans.

[Macnamara]

On 11/18/2022 at 1:56 PM, Macnamara said:

 

so now we have a second doctor on the stand in the trial over the death of baby E

 

this story is growing legs....

Lucy Letby raised alarm to save infant, baby deaths trial hears as consultant admits he blundered by leaving the sick infant alone with monitor switched off

• Dr John Gibbs admitted he made 'a serious error' in leaving a sick infant alone 
• He acknowledged he should have handed over the child's care to a nurse 
• Baby G was left in a treatment trolley moments after a difficult procedure
• Lucy Letby found the infant and shouted for help, the nurse's murder trial heard
• Nurse and alleged killer Letby carried out emergency treatment to revive Baby G
• Letby denies murdering five babies and attempting to murder a further ten

By Nigel Bunyan For Mailonline

Published: 15:55 GMT, 14 December 2022 | Updated: 15:58 GMT, 14 December 2022

The consultant in charge of the neonatal unit where Lucy Letby is alleged to have murdered five babies today admitted he had made 'a serious error' in leaving a sick infant alone behind a screen with her monitor switched off.

Dr John Gibbs, a paediatrician at the Countess of Chester Hospital for 20 years, acknowledged that he and his registrar colleague, David Harkness, should have handed over the child's care to a nurse.

But the two medics left Baby G lying on a treatment trolley moments after carrying out a difficult cannulation procedure to give her fluids and antibiotics.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11537891/Lucy-Letby-raised-alarm-save-infant-baby-deaths-trial-hears.html

 

 

[numnuts]

It seems that at least one juror isn't convinced of Letby's guilt then.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66220792

 

'Lucy Letby jury can return majority verdicts, judge rules.'

[Anti Facts Sir]

Odd how the evidence presentation lasted 9 months (something else takes that long, hmmm).

 

And the nurse's age is 33. It would have to be.

 

Judge desperate to get a conviction at any cost. Obviously.

[jack121]

On 11/20/2022 at 10:42 AM, solowrist said:

 

 

The BBC and ITV for have for years filled the viewing public's psyche with hospital soaps giving the notion of a caring NHS, but the reality of that nonsense is that the cemeteries are full of doctor’s mistakes and their medical shenanigans.

 

I was in hospital a few months ago and the nurses were fine with me, i think it's more the higher ups, the senior staff

[Useyournous]

When I first heard of this my reaction was "not another murdering evil nurse/doctor!" but as I followed the case, I think she just may be innocent. I think this based on there being no hard evidence or "smoking gun", knowing the way people behave and there being little dirt dug up about her or weird internet searches, as far as I know. I have seen people on forums saying the parents need justice but I don't think that finding out your baby died at the hands of a murdering nurse is any better than the babies dying due to their fragile health or medical negligence - there's no winners because its just a can of worms. I am also very aware that only her and the people in the court room can follow the case properly and that whatever we get to know will be from the unreliable press. I can expand on my thoughts but I don't want to bore anyone.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

On 8/8/2023 at 5:16 PM, numnuts said:

It seems that at least one juror isn't convinced of Letby's guilt then.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-merseyside-66220792

 

'Lucy Letby jury can return majority verdicts, judge rules.'

I hope they practice a bit of the old jury nullification. I've seen it happen and it's a joy to behold, unless you're on the losing side.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

On 8/9/2023 at 3:13 AM, jack121 said:

 

I was in hospital a few months ago and the nurses were fine with me, i think it's more the higher ups, the senior staff

It's the managers. They have the power. The ones that job seek on the Guardian's website.

[numnuts]

Verdicts in. I didn't pay much attention to the press frenzy yesterday. Let's just say I am not convinced of Letby's guilt.

[Malbec]

The frustrating thing about jury trials is when people think the result immediately becomes fact. It breeds a sort of "I knew it" brigade.... and the snippets people are fed by the press, during the trial which are done so to form public opinion, then make Joe public feel like they're instinct or hunch is correct (even though it's solely based on msm reporting and nothing else). 

 

Even tho different jury demographic and different areas of the country often get different percentage outcomes.

 

Eg. People think Ken Barlow is innocent! Carl Beech is another example, many believing that his conviction exonerates the high profile people who were accused of being in an elite pedophile ring. 

[Useyournous]

Very disturbing, all of it. If she is guilty it's terrible and if she's not it's terrible. Imagine being her parents?! The doctor and his colleagues who say they had suspicions and complained should have contacted the police to investigate. They could have done undercover surveillance!! They are being treated like angelic beings now but I've seen some Twotter and Faceache posts from one of them and he's far from angelic - comes across like an immature rough head. 

[northern star]

On 8/17/2023 at 8:57 PM, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

It's the managers. They have the power. The ones that job seek on the Guardian's website.

 

In an article I read earlier there's no mention of the names of the executives who made sure the deaths weren't reported to the police, and who threatened doctors and the woman's colleagues of 'circumstances' if they took the the story further. They should be ultimately accountable and responsible. All hushed up.  And the media are still not mentioning who they are, but colluding to protect them. Who are they?

 

And strange there's no surveillance in a baby ward of a hospital, when its everywhere else!

 

 

[Useyournous]

Maybe the consultants didn't want the police in because they would all be under scrutiny. I once heard through a friend ( this sounds unreliable but it was a good source or I wouldn't have taken notice) that a surgeon went to another hospital to help a well-known and respected children's a surgeon with his long surgery list, and they did one of the operations together. The helping surgeon had a shock at how bad the well-known one was, cutting corners and rushing. The helping one was good, eager and on the ball but that day was when they crossed the line into corruption because they all watch each other's backs and keep quiet. They are not whiter than white but a lot of people seem to put them on a pedestal and if they mend people for free! They get ridiculous money and spend the time on the computer booking holidays when they have no clinics or surgery.

[northern star]

Ive heard similar stories, especially about hierarchies and appalling levels of bullying in midwifery, forcing good midwives to leave the profession

 

Maybe the lesson learners should listen to this

 

 

Edited August 19 by northern star

[Not Thoth]

On 10/14/2022 at 12:31 AM, Anti Facts Sir said:

Interesting name for the accused. Letby.

 

She was "let by" whom to carry out these alleged murders?

Lucy, or Lucifer

[Lady Baynham]

None of this sits right with me. Where's Richard D Hall when you need him?

[Useyournous]

Consultants now making it all about them! "Oh I've suffered!". Well maybe if you'd gone straight to the police? Someone on a main forum said they didn't go because they would lose their jobs because they were told by management to not go to police. So jobs more important than stopping murder or serious harm to neonates? Oh right.

Edited August 20 by Useyournous

[alexa]

On 8/19/2023 at 7:09 AM, numnuts said:

Verdicts in. I didn't pay much attention to the press frenzy yesterday. Let's just say I am not convinced of Letby's guilt.

 

Nor me, I'm just glad that the death penalty has been abolished.

[Bombadil]

On 8/13/2023 at 11:12 AM, Useyournous said:

When I first heard of this my reaction was "not another murdering evil nurse/doctor!" but as I followed the case, I think she just may be innocent. I think this based on there being no hard evidence or "smoking gun", knowing the way people behave and there being little dirt dug up about her or weird internet searches, as far as I know. I have seen people on forums saying the parents need justice but I don't think that finding out your baby died at the hands of a murdering nurse is any better than the babies dying due to their fragile health or medical negligence - there's no winners because its just a can of worms. I am also very aware that only her and the people in the court room can follow the case properly and that whatever we get to know will be from the unreliable press. I can expand on my thoughts but I don't want to bore anyone.

Expand away. All musings add to the whole!

[Fluke]

They are saying they want to change the law so families can meet their killer. 

 

The thing is if we are to believe the official narrative, and even if we don't. When you are dealing with psychopaths they'll surely just get off at hearing families cry? 

 

 

[Velma]

20 hours ago, Not Thoth said:

Lucy, or Lucifer

 

Speaking of headlines, the Scottish papers had "THE DEVIL IS AMONGST US" and a picture of pathetic-looking Lucy, who, if she is guilty, is clearly mentally ill, not Satan.

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

20 hours ago, Useyournous said:

Consultants now making it all about them! "Oh I've suffered!". Well maybe if you'd gone straight to the police? Someone on a main forum said they didn't go because they would lose their jobs because they were told by management to not go to police. So jobs more important than stopping murder or serious harm to neonates? Oh right.

Ask any doctor or nurse, who has served in their position for any length of time, about the power management has, and they will regale you for hours about the abuse of that power. They'll also tell you about the immunity they enjoy whilst the doctors and nurses are left swinging in the wind. You'll recall that during the scamdemic, it was the medical staff, not the managers who were making fools of themselves on Tik-Tok. Be that as it may, managers, and not just in the medical establishment, are masters of teh cover-up. I don't claim to know that much about this case but it does seem that the CPS has gone for the low-hanging fruit. 

 

No confession? That's a big problem for me. Many questions answered with "I don't recall" is not a sign of guilt when you consider she was working in a pressure cooker handling life and death decisions. The memory clouds. Have the police interview tapes been released yet or are they keeping those under wraps?