WTF is the “Natural World”?

[Open Focus]

Hello. I’ve listened to The Trap in its entirety once, and many sections multiple times. In Chapter 12, David writes about spending time in the “natural world” that isn’t natural, but rather a a copy/simulation of the “natural world” even when you can see the hologram of it all. He also writes about humans originally being 5d and that they viewed the world that way before the “schism”’ and us falling deeper and deeper into 4d and the 3d physical world. My question is WTF is natural world? I’ve had several deep psychedelic experiences similar to what David described. I’m wondering if those experiences provide a more true perspective of what’s actually the natural world. Thoughts?

[Origin]

On 9/24/2022 at 1:36 AM, Open Focus said:

 My question is WTF is natural world?  ..a more true perspective of what’s actually the natural world. Thoughts?

The honest truth? Everything that manifests itself tries to annihilate each other. Humans too. Plants,animals, even water against so-called solid matter. It is like a programme. A concentration of chaos. A realm of nightmares and becoming. Of course it's controlled. No matter what Humans try everything disintegrates and rearranges itself again. And it can only be left when it is acknowledged that nothing is right here. And it is needed in order to understand.  

[Artie Fufkin]

On 9/25/2022 at 8:57 AM, Origin said:

The honest truth? Everything that manifests itself tries to annihilate each other. Humans too. Plants,animals, even water against so-called solid matter. It is like a programme. A concentration of chaos. A realm of nightmares and becoming. Of course it's controlled. No matter what Humans try everything disintegrates and rearranges itself again. And it can only be left when it is acknowledged that nothing is right here. And it is needed in order to understand.  

It's a dualistic  programme, reallised  from the  chaos

realms , the duality of existence  is an illusion. , we are but players in a theatrical game, The 'god' of religions' doesn't exisist. We are the spirit and so is every living thing on this plane of existance.

[Origin]

On 10/6/2022 at 3:02 AM, Artie Fufkin said:

It's a dualistic  programme, reallised  from the  chaos

realms , the duality of existence  is an illusion. , we are but players in a theatrical game, The 'god' of religions' doesn't exisist. We are the spirit and so is every living thing on this plane of existance.

Players? I wouldn't rely on that. And it's certainly not a game. And at the last second, almost everyone will understand that they have been following illusions. In this containment you have to let go of everything. And this will be evaluated. And it knows every excuse.

[Artie Fufkin]

On 10/7/2022 at 1:59 PM, Origin said:

Players? I wouldn't rely on that. And it's certainly not a game. And at the last second, almost everyone will understand that they have been following illusions. In this containment you have to let go of everything. And this will be evaluated. And it knows every excuse.

 

On 10/7/2022 at 1:59 PM, Origin said:

Players? I wouldn't rely on that. And it's certainly not a game. And at the last second, almost everyone will understand that they have been following illusions. In this containment you have to let go of everything. And this will be evaluated. And it knows every excuse.

Hi Origin, i'm not certain of everything, as no individual on this plane of existence should. Illusions i can agree with, but then again never be sure! As a being, i value nothing but showing love, and the experience of the receipt of love in this realm. The hate and violence of modern day living diminishes the experience for the majority of souls here, however the learning process is always forgoing. Would you care to expand on 'it knows every excuse'? Many thanks and please do take care.

[Origin]

7 hours ago, Artie Fufkin said:

 

Hi Origin, i'm not certain of everything, as no individual on this plane of existence should. Illusions i can agree with, but then again never be sure! As a being, i value nothing but showing love, and the experience of the receipt of love in this realm. The hate and violence of modern day living diminishes the experience for the majority of souls here, however the learning process is always forgoing. Would you care to expand on 'it knows every excuse'? Many thanks and please do take care.

It seems that people have one-sided expectations of what something should look like and what this phenomenon is aligned with. Why it subliminally interferes in the development of particular subjects and what it implies for humans as a whole. Love is one of those things, and what is based exclusively on this human reality. And what is truth? Human truth? Knowledge? But everything is a distorted illusion. I indicate that it will not be fooled by anything and it will react uncomfortable from the point of view of Humans as to why the individual could not have done better. We are constantly monitored and it will remember everything. We are comparable in terms of development to very small children who believed everything but were not able to go their own separate way. Then something will decide what is appropriate and most will not be pleased with these decisions. The development is much more difficult and complex than people imagine. We are not that special and privileged. Never trust that humans already know the answers and build your worldview on them.