CarpeDiem Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) Isn't it funny how not once in any of these reports are there any stats on numbers who have died with heart conditions i.e vaxxed to non-vaxxed? I am assuming they are mostly if not all vaxxed otherwise MSM would be banging on and on and on about how the non-vaxxed are at huge risk and here is the data to prove it. Wouldn't they!?! "Further work needs to be done to understand any link between the long-term effects of Covid and increasing cardiac deaths." https://news.sky.com/story/irregular-heartbeat-likely-to-be-one-of-the-reasons-more-people-than-usual-have-been-dying-this-year-12701948 Edited September 20, 2022 by CarpeDiem Addition 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Been asking myself this question since COVID began. Fuck knows is the answer, something really inconsequential and innocuous no doubt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Many sleepers as you call them already realise. However what we see is mass denial and cognitive dissonance. Why would the vaxxed masses ever want to "realise" how dangerous these "vaccines" are? Maybe the reason the vaxxed sheeple won't ever wake is that it is too painful and terrifying to think they actually allowed themselves to be injected with a poison. I would certainly have my head firmly in the sand right now if i had been moronic enough to take the stab! 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 (edited) It's been the same for decades with mobile phone use and brain cancer/tumours, or any health effects from constant EMR. They always need "more research" to be done. "Further investigations". "No clear links due to insufficient data". Etc. No it ain't that. They are STALLING. They are DENYING the truth for as long as they can, to continue the agenda. Simple as. Covid/Jab scam is just the latest. Edited September 20, 2022 by Anti Facts Sir 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Also, we can't know if the vaxxed have had their ability to reason impaired by it, which could explain their failure to recognise the obvious? 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Also, we can't know if the vaxxed have had their ability to reason impaired by it, which could explain their failure to recognise the obvious? "Brain fog" has been talked about much online. People reporting that others in their workplace seem "unfocused" and "slow". 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Ignorance is bliss, it's effortless 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 4 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said: Also, we can't know if the vaxxed have had their ability to reason impaired by it, which could explain their failure to recognise the obvious? Nah IMHO they are fully aware how stupid they are. Anecdotally I'm not the keep my opinion to myhself kind of covidiot. I have been vocal to all my vaxxed peers throughout. What tells me they know and are in denial is two fold... 1) When i point to the facts about their new ailments post jab etc i'm met with aggression. You can see it in their eye's they know they've been had they just will never admit it to themselves or anyone else. 2) All the vax zealots/covid maniacs who would shout you down now avoid any covid related chat. The same people who couldn't wait to tell you they were off cause they got their jabs now want medical privacy again for some reason? Fact is most know they are fucking idiots. I had a conversation with a vax moron that went... Moron - "We only here because we all got vaxxed you selfish you broke all the rules covid is a deadly pandemic" Me - "As you point out i broke all the rules for 2.5 years and unvaxxed. Yet never been off with the covid you have had twice. Must be my Superhuman immune system" Moron - "You must have had it you broke the rules" Me- "Why am i not dead?" Moron - "...." Then refuses to discuss anything further as no point as i'm an idiot LOL People are just fucking morons they don't need a vaxx to make them so IMHO 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 "You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." Morpheus They won't recognise the obvious because they don't want too. 7 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 minutes ago, Covidiot said: "You have to understand. Most people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured and so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it." Morpheus They won't recognise the obvious because they don't want too. You only had to see yesterdays performance to realize this. Mind hypnosis, it's going to take something big to snap this lot out of their slumber. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 AJ will Fix' Em... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexa Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 3 minutes ago, Truthblast said: AJ will Fix' Em... He's about as much use as chocolate tea pot 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 organised riots. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 I know two people who have been vaxed many times, one person has had five jabs i kid you not. They both fully believe and trust the the science over anything. And these two people are meant to be fairly smart. I tried to speak with them both but they wouldnt listen and said im crazy, They said 'why would i listen to you over a university proffessor'. 1 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, CarpeDiem said: Isn't it funny how not once in any of these reports are there any stats on numbers who have died with heart conditions i.e vaxxed to non-vaxxed? I am assuming they are mostly if not all vaxxed otherwise MSM would be banging on and on and on about how the non-vaxxed are at huge risk and here is the data to prove it. Wouldn't they!?! "Further work needs to be done to understand any link between the long-term effects of Covid and increasing cardiac deaths." https://news.sky.com/story/irregular-heartbeat-likely-to-be-one-of-the-reasons-more-people-than-usual-have-been-dying-this-year-12701948 This fucking 5G gird is killing everyone... Maybe vaccinated more but I feel bad close to these ovens. I noticed difference since we have not-that-smart meter. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 40 minutes ago, Captainlove said: I know two people who have been vaxed many times, one person has had five jabs i kid you not. They both fully believe and trust the the science over anything. And these two people are meant to be fairly smart. I tried to speak with them both but they wouldnt listen and said im crazy, They said 'why would i listen to you over a university proffessor'. If they already had 5 and still alive it would be difficult to convince it's bad for them.. . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Captainlove Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 45 minutes ago, Human10 said: If they already had 5 and still alive it would be difficult to convince it's bad for them.. . Couldn't disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarpeDiem Posted September 20, 2022 Author Share Posted September 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Covidiot said: Nah IMHO they are fully aware how stupid they are. Anecdotally I'm not the keep my opinion to myhself kind of covidiot. I have been vocal to all my vaxxed peers throughout. What tells me they know and are in denial is two fold... 1) When i point to the facts about their new ailments post jab etc i'm met with aggression. You can see it in their eye's they know they've been had they just will never admit it to themselves or anyone else. 2) All the vax zealots/covid maniacs who would shout you down now avoid any covid related chat. The same people who couldn't wait to tell you they were off cause they got their jabs now want medical privacy again for some reason? Fact is most know they are fucking idiots. I had a conversation with a vax moron that went... Moron - "We only here because we all got vaxxed you selfish you broke all the rules covid is a deadly pandemic" Me - "As you point out i broke all the rules for 2.5 years and unvaxxed. Yet never been off with the covid you have had twice. Must be my Superhuman immune system" Moron - "You must have had it you broke the rules" Me- "Why am i not dead?" Moron - "...." Then refuses to discuss anything further as no point as i'm an idiot LOL People are just fucking morons they don't need a vaxx to make them so IMHO Love it! I have also noticed the same. People questioning my sanity (cheeky b@57erds) when I asked them not to listen to msm and to do their own research before going to be vaxxed. These people now never mention covid or the vax. It’s almost as if it all never happened? It seems to me they do not want to be reminded of what has been done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TetraG Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) This threads made my day, even at 5am!.... BRAIN STORM:- inspired in part by this very thread *just as an instance*, now follows => Like I mean, I haven't seen anything too obvious directly taking issue with what we ask, or how we ask or make assertion or anything... Just anything concerning being more practical about this whole psychological and biological travesty ETC.... and Sooooooooo by asking some of the more direct and simple questions like in this thread that in the end concerns us all here, could help tackle all this where we are dealing with vaxxers, and meanwhile the AWAKE that we BE can go on being more awake by us all doing something constructive, by whatever we've gained during our time so far on this mind sozzling planet, (with our facets in tact hopefully) which after 2 or 3 years we can all suffer with **BUT ultimately keeping positive**, and out of the clutches of fatigue but at least we have some proofs down and so forth which we can be proud of to that extent that can take things forward... (ALTHOUGH must be said, however many times necessary - anything considered NEEDY TO KNOW in general concensus or whatever respecting to all, would be INFO easier to comeby of course if the facts were more lucidly laid out in one place and not randomly as it seems spread all about the forum in shards of information as I sort of feel, but oh well, this is a forum and a bit of crazy rabbit warren sometimes for that reason, where all seems kinda chaotic & probably not organized enough, but then none of us are perfect in that regard it must be said).... However ~~sticking positive~~ we need to apply this better in relation to each other and the wider world me feels. Like ya know, consider how to avoid hindering ourselves would be a start in terms of either expression or greater social bonding with whomever we gel with who shows respect back, and YES feel free to ask such things as how stark raving STUPID the lambs to the slaughter are (preferably NOT to their face obviously, grant them some respect however dumb they seem), and just the ongoing-ness of some anti vaxxer people like us may not know what to do about it all, and maybe more of us than we care to admit feel kinda the same, and thus are in the same basic boat. Take me for example:- in the brief intermission which relates to what I write above already! ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ***************************************************************** I am to be found sometimes catagorizing myself in that frustrating category of pissed-off-ness, feeling non-plussed or what have you.... but the good news is there are things words/ deeds we CAN do about it to help us all reconnoiter this or that or gain traction in whatever we envisage as helpful to as many non-vaxxers as possible and EVEN VAXXERS THEMSELVES come what may.... Anyway~~ might well be, that at certain times, the most practical thing for any of us is the simple regaining of our most common of senses (to direct in whichever way of our choosing) which of course includes good instinct. which is key to what I continue to QUIETLY BANG ON about in this next bit..... Yeah!!!! Quiet Noise is so beautiful...... Let's hear more........haha........ And soooooooo plus in among the other wonderments of the conspiracy larder, (entertaining, intellectual or just boring) in the throws of all that daily carnage (or mental dissonance not least) --- coming back to the point --> EVEN WE therefore may quite easily get lost in the THICK MATTED LAYERS of either "natural brain fog" or fatigue or frustration about where to feel we have a standing or about where can we be more outspoken with people that actually do show care over what we are saying and asking, and that with the right collection of eyes and ears can help carry us to "dry land" in terms of any logic in that regard verses the vax zealots whom seem to have invented their own self important baseless logic, (for them Logic based on illogic)...... Maybe most of the pointed questions (PIN IN HAYSTACK ALERT) relating to the most simple logic (or not??) by all, are partly/mostly observed (haphazardly) in the Convid Leviathon thread(??) but again its the same problem THERE TOO if not more so, in that stuff/voices/opinions easily get festooned (embroiled even) and all becomes like a thick-matted frustrating incoherent gaggle or chatty mind neurosis where focal points get distorted or denatured, soooooo?.....my main point in what to say here about the forum as a whole and as motivated by threads like this one HERE (for the good where we return to some form of simplicity on occasion) is where not enough common sense questioning takes action, by embracing in some way such as what is asked in the title of this thread - but I mean when questions like such do get prominence or see sense it helps redeem matters AS A WHOLE considerably because not only does it help simplicity, it's like social lubricating in ways EVERYONE can feel involved in, as it also encourages a community spirit, it helps- simple as... BTW-> I'll just quickly bundle in here, what in general is also missing, which is what seems to me an apparent lack of what COULD BE various(?) activism about the place?? Am I right or do I need to look again??..... hmmmm Anyway back on point for the moment in hand which is (no matter whether this being said at a late stage or not or by whom) and so again in general I would point (*cannily*) to more pointed questions needed by all of us~ the more simple the better sometimes=>=> To my mind at least even as complicated beast myself sometimes, I CAN STILL DISCERN what's obvious eventually however, and a lot (of CHAOS, GETTING LOST in one's mind etc) is owing to not enough direct questions on the forum if in the myriad and plethora of dissecting Covidism we are being TOO weathered by it all, and can be a TOLL generally speaking, and okay we need time sometimes to recover from that collectively & individually --- but by which I was saying (when we feel as though we have fallen by the wayside) this feeling of helplessness (or bombardment or bamboozlement) may *at times* only lead us to where the risk is to go round and around and we end up dizzy & confused and not much the wiser....(but not to say SOMEWHERE people don't have good ideas in amongst it if we can only help one another understand better about everything & more cohesively despite how we might agree this or disagree that). Otherwise this is where we can lose sight of common sense *simplicity* & order of some kind in order to KEEP IN FOCUS some of the **more obvious questions** and things identifiable by all therefore that IMO we need to remind ourselves of now and again, for best congruity on basic threadbares of human life when human life goes wrong, which this thread has kindly sparked in me to say in substantiating the need! *with thanks for that in equally kind measure* but I've had this brewing in me to say for ages anyway is really the cut & thrust and just like any gasket has to flow freely eventually after a wait of whatever the dirge creating stagnation & uncertainty & frustration & confusion etc in the meantime... Sure, there maybe plenty of sense in among the mind boggling stories or anecdotes or factoids dotted about this forum, but nicer and more brain friendly for all of us would be I reckon to UNCLOT/UNCLOG as it were whatever perhaps disconfiguring narratives ~ resulting in our own minds getting messed up because of what we see before us all unfolding in ways which are not easily digestible sometimes.....(in such moments we need GRAY MATTER reunification of soul) which when in disarray I envisage is CLOUDING OUR COMMON SENSE at times --- Especially when QUITE SIMPLY one of main antidotes to BRAIN FRAGGING (need a defrag anyone??) comes simply from considering how much more simple certain elements in our approaches could be made in getting to the nub of any topic or need... Like when it comes to asking the most profoundly simple questions, LIKE, **where does this leave us now** == Wouldn't that be good to hear/see more often!!? -assessing where we are in this GREAT "con-VOID" Aka= Convid where EVERYONE can get an EASY grasp onto matters, less some of the dissecting labors or intellectual labors which although necessary, (respect to anyone good at that) can leave some of us agasp by the sheer overload of volume of information)....So stuff like asking how many of us are truly still able to gather ourselves at this stage and what could proove helpful is for me by returning to some common tactics in how we ask ourselves (or put to them directly if so inclined) how it is Vaxxers are as they are, and that known as DENIAL STATE they be in is at least for our sakes (the Anti Vaxxers) some consolation to realize that's what's "going down" (sts) and how need we remind ourselves(?) these people are in some quite profound way victims as much as agents of poor judgement and naivety (they have become so in ignorance), so let's keep open-minded maybe that the receivers of the VAX POISON are not just stupids or zealots necessarily (although they may still act like it anyway almost as if to proove a point), but like they are still SORT OF human but for now (*and for the foreseeible at least/ irreversibly even*) degraded by the illusion they hold onto which were it true to be able to maintain full health or to come out of this unharmed which seems just totally untenable.... So anyway good to know *some* people are still thinking on asking the COMMON SENSE QUESTIONS STILL!..... (Despite how easy it would be for anyone of us potentially to be blinded by fake science et all). Edited September 21, 2022 by TetraG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nuckles Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 12 hours ago, Human10 said: If they already had 5 and still alive it would be difficult to convince it's bad for them.. . Ah but thats because of a false belief that any damage/harm caused by the jab will happen relatively quickly............. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack121 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 The sheep have so many heavy metal and toxins from the water supply, toxins from the food supply, air full of bacteria and chemtrails, 5G blasting their brains, constant fears stressing them out such as WW3 Russia Ukraine Global warming Cost of living crisis, that they are totally and utterly fucked. They are thick as shit in the first place, combined with all the rest of this globalist crap. It has made them scared. I'm sure they are nice guys, they're just a little fucked up https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/24095-bj-and-msm-collaborate-to-brainwash-the-sheep-further-quiz-photo-emerges/#comment-378746 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Nuckles said: Ah but thats because of a false belief that any damage/harm caused by the jab will happen relatively quickly............. Well... Most people die one day anyway so probably it doesn't bother them... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saved Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 20 hours ago, Covidiot said: Many sleepers as you call them already realise. However what we see is mass denial and cognitive dissonance. Why would the vaxxed masses ever want to "realise" how dangerous these "vaccines" are? Maybe the reason the vaxxed sheeple won't ever wake is that it is too painful and terrifying to think they actually allowed themselves to be injected with a poison. I would certainly have my head firmly in the sand right now if i had been moronic enough to take the stab! Nobody wants to have a conversation about Rona because that inevitably leads to a conversation about jabs. Yet when I held court numerous times throughout that two years - EVERYBODY wanted to have their say. All they had was MSM information, SAGE, Fauci quotes, sound bites stolen from NHS posters etc, yet quote them all they did. Ukraine was very convenient for them, for they could focus all their virtue signalling on that part of the world and stop thinking about what horrors they have since gleaned they were complicit in. Plenty that I know had their kids done and the silence this last six months has been deafening; yet you could barely shut them up for a moment over the course of the fake pandemic. I do think that some - perhaps many - have since had alarm bells ringing (because of the silence across the board) BUT the only comfort they have is the hard hat of cognitive dissonance. Those that had the real deal are ticking time bombs and I reckon that they know this - though nobody knows what strength of shot/s anybody had. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beaujangles Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Many who had the juice once or twice had no immediate symptoms. Not even a red arm... this gave a false sense of security in my opinion. But I know a few people who got the third one and had a huge wake up call. It knocked them out for weeks. This has caused many to not want any more. ??Better late to realize than never? I also think that when we keep talking about the dangers of the juice...even to those who seem hellbent on jabbing forever, they seem to get some recognition. Its a slow process for many, this waking up is traumatic when they have been embedded in the covid nightmare for almost three years. Basically I think you have to use the brainwashing tactics of such evil entities as WEF against the ptb and and keep the pressure on those who are bewitched. Fight fire with fire so to speak. Hope that makes sense...lol just woke up. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Covidiot Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Saved said: Nobody wants to have a conversation about Rona because that inevitably leads to a conversation about jabs. Yet when I held court numerous times throughout that two years - EVERYBODY wanted to have their say. All they had was MSM information, SAGE, Fauci quotes, sound bites stolen from NHS posters etc, yet quote them all they did. Ukraine was very convenient for them, for they could focus all their virtue signalling on that part of the world and stop thinking about what horrors they have since gleaned they were complicit in. Plenty that I know had their kids done and the silence this last six months has been deafening; yet you could barely shut them up for a moment over the course of the fake pandemic. I do think that some - perhaps many - have since had alarm bells ringing (because of the silence across the board) BUT the only comfort they have is the hard hat of cognitive dissonance. Those that had the real deal are ticking time bombs and I reckon that they know this - though nobody knows what strength of shot/s anybody had. https://www.verywellmind.com/denial-as-a-defense-mechanism-5114461 Article pretty much sums up/explains whats going on with the vaxxed sheeple. "Denial is a type of defence mechanism that involves ignoring the reality of a situation to avoid anxiety. Defense mechanisms are strategies that people use to cope with distressing feelings. In the case of denial, it can involve not acknowledging reality or denying the consequences of that reality." The sheeple will not willingly face up to reality. It just won't happen. No mass awakenening is coming. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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