What is Esther Hicks channeling...?

[BeeThrive]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:14 AM, QueenRia said:

That's what I'm wondering about as well. My question is: how can they achieve or fake the high frequencies of Unconditional Love? There were many times when I sensed that frequency coming from Esther/Abraham. I was also wondering about this when listening to David's new book, The Trap:  how can 4th dimensional AI fake that frequency of peace and love when they con us after death, if they themselves are not able to reach those frequencies?

Deception is rife on all levels. Just like an earth ego presents themselves well, doesnt mean their motives/intentions are pure. We’ve all been conned, etc….by folk…they have motives we couldnt guess at the time. There’s some powerful beings that also have motives. They are not incarnated so dont have the block from lower ego to higher thought/intuition/atma essence - yet do know we are blocked, and so easily manipulated.

 

The theosophists commonly discussed the subject of astral /ethereal entities conning us with ‘glamour’ - inducing in us a ‘love/bliss’ feeling. These entities are not necessarily devoid of reaching extremely high frequencies, and the induction in another is not necessarily ‘given’ by these entities either….they are accessing OUR essence, opening it, so we can feel a truer more divine aspect of self. When you channel, dont forget you say to an entity ‘yes you may enter my corporeal, sensorial meat suit’ and ‘have temporary access/control’. By giving permission, to this kind of ‘possession’, is fraught with being played with. 
 

The central tenet to SELF-hood and SELF discovery, is to not allow anything to be in our personal inner  ‘ALTAR’ - if we have any thing there whatsoever, we place that as more important than ‘God’ our ‘god-self/essence’ - which we can never discover, know about or experience, while we have other ‘concepts/beings/ideas/desires’ sat in our inner Altar.

This is why the path of renunciation of everything of this world is so powerful, for discovering our truest essence of being, and chiselling the ego veils to transparency.

 

Allowing a channeling allows access to our altar. Most channellers have no idea what they’re saying ‘yes’ to because they have no idea about their whole beingness and what giving-up its energy/power to any other entity really means.

 

The most benevolent beings would not even dare to want to ‘enter our being’ to ‘channel’ and would communicate with us without violating personal boundaries. Their capability to communicate with us without violation, which they are more than capable of doing,  is what differentiates the genuine from the questionable, imo. 

[truepositive]

How do the non-invasive type make contact then?

[Techno Assassin]

On 10/8/2022 at 4:54 AM, truepositive said:

How do the non-invasive type make contact then?

This is a hard thing to understand.....non invasive's would be just that...they wouldn't do anything to invade ones free will.......at least as far as I can understand.......the invasive's would use some sort of covert means to control, like TPTB in our societies......they control them to control us, but they are not directly controlling our free will.......if that makes any sense

[truepositive]

On 10/10/2022 at 6:44 PM, Techno Assassin said:

This is a hard thing to understand.....non invasive's would be just that...they wouldn't do anything to invade ones free will.......at least as far as I can understand.......the invasive's would use some sort of covert means to control, like TPTB in our societies......they control them to control us, but they are not directly controlling our free will.......if that makes any sense

Yeah there would have to be an agreement of sorts, by informed consent at least. It's tricky to have to sift out the folks that are straight up lying about this phenomenon to then also have to work out if the source is 'ok' or not. Not an expert by any means but discernment required for sure.

[Techno Assassin]

16 hours ago, truepositive said:

Yeah there would have to be an agreement of sorts, by informed consent at least. It's tricky to have to sift out the folks that are straight up lying about this phenomenon to then also have to work out if the source is 'ok' or not. Not an expert by any means but discernment required for sure.

which is why I read as much as I can and make my own judgement 

[QueenRia]

On 10/8/2022 at 5:36 AM, BeeThrive said:

The theosophists commonly discussed the subject of astral /ethereal entities conning us with ‘glamour’ - inducing in us a ‘love/bliss’ feeling. These entities are not necessarily devoid of reaching extremely high frequencies, and the induction in another is not necessarily ‘given’ by these entities either….they are accessing OUR essence, opening it, so we can feel a truer more divine aspect of self.

Interesting.

Is there a difference then between "Truth-frequency" (if there is such a thing) and Love/Bliss-frequency? There has to be a way to distinguish TRUTH from Love/Bliss/Feel-Good. 

David talks about this "The Voice" experience he had. This was on a Truth-level, where he knew "This is it!". 

 

...hm, yes, there must be a difference... What Abraham and the likes are teaching is to get into the Feel-Good state, in an emotional sense. But there is a state where you actually look the darkness in the eye (TRUTH, both the good and the ugly!), and it doesn't feel good emotionally, but it feels RIGHT in your spirit. So there must be a way for us to tell if Love/Bliss states are in line with Truth. Maybe when it somehow doesn't resonate with the core of our Being, then it's not Truth?

Edited October 17, 2022 by QueenRia

[BeeThrive]

On 10/17/2022 at 7:46 AM, QueenRia said:

Interesting.

Is there a difference then between "Truth-frequency" (if there is such a thing) and Love/Bliss-frequency? There has to be a way to distinguish TRUTH from Love/Bliss/Feel-Good. 
 

Absolute Truth and Absolute Love states of being, compared to a spiritual ‘pick me up’ of ‘human’ love/bliss (induced by drugs or spirits or channelings) - is the difference between the quality of light streaming from a rising sun, and a 20w fluorescent light bulb in a dark room. 
The magnitude of the experience is telling. The clarity brought forth, indescribable peace. 

 

 

On 10/17/2022 at 7:46 AM, QueenRia said:

David talks about this "The Voice" experience he had. This was on a Truth-level, where he knew "This is it!". 

 

...hm, yes, there must be a difference... What Abraham and the likes are teaching is to get into the Feel-Good state, in an emotional sense. But there is a state where you actually look the darkness in the eye (TRUTH, both the good and the ugly!), and it doesn't feel good emotionally, but it feels RIGHT in your spirit. So there must be a way for us to tell if Love/Bliss states are in line with Truth. Maybe when it somehow doesn't resonate with the core of our Being, then it's not Truth?

Abraham isnt wrong to encourage people to self-induce happiness, and turn their inner emotional compass to joy, but like you said, and i agree, there’s the danger with this that repressed negative emotions can get stored up, a shadow self grows, we’re not feeling whole due to emotional repression etc. Balance is necessary in all things and ignoring or shunning what are judged to be ‘wrong’ emotions only makes the process of wholeness worse. 
 

Your words are accurate and i agree; the discernment with our core inner being knows Absolute Truth. 
If in our innermost heart we want Absolute Truth/Wisdom -thats where our inner compass is always pointing, so anything that is not in magnetic alignment with your most inner being, your inner self will alert you. Whatever we hear/see or sense is all data that passes through the core of us, and is either accepted or repelled. A ‘yay’ or a ‘nay’. 
 

The important awareness to ensure, is answering ‘what is it in our inner-most being we really really want?’ We do well to answer this as this is a ‘signal/vibration’ we’re ‘sending out’ into the field of consciousness we call reality, and attracting it to us. It took me years to understand the importance of this, as this will attract whatever we’re focused on most of the time. If you wanna know the truth about ufo’s and aliens, you’ll likely have some astral plane experiences, and youtube will recommend ufo videos. If you want absolute truth of the cause and creation of all, that will be revealed.

 

‘Knock and it will be opened’, ‘ask and it will be answered’, are true gospels - the trouble is we mostly dont know what we’re asking , as most modern minds and hearts are so skittish anyway, hundreds of desires/thoughts/aversions a day, we receive a hogwash of data in return. 
If we seek true wisdom/truth, for Absolute Love IS that, we shall receive that, only by means/beings that ARE that. 
 

A good read is Heaven and Hell by Swedenborg. It’s pretty heavy in it’s language delivery, as written a while ago and translated, but regarding discernment, it’s in there. 
Spiritual discernment is a large topic and needs understanding, for us not to be hoodwinked by spirits messing with us and our path in life becoming confused and wobbly.
Mainly, your heart will know, always. Just like in mundane life, it beats hard when we’re in danger, and it swells with joy when love is experienced. Spiritually we experience similar inner body sensations to spiritual truth/ spiritual danger. 
 

 

 

 

[BeeThrive]

An exmple from Swedenborg’s ‘heaven and hell’:

 

“[ 12 ] For spiritual truths to be comprehended the following universals must be known. (1) All things in the universe have relation to good and truth and to their conjunction that they may be anything, thus to love and faith and their conjunction. (2) Man has understanding and will; and the understanding is the receptacle of truth and the will of good; and all things in man have relation to these two and to their conjunction, as all things have relation to truth and good and their conjunction. (3) There is an internal man and an external man, which are as distinct from each other as heaven and the world are, and yet for a man to be truly a man, these must make one. (4) The internal man is in the light of heaven, and the external man is in the light of the world; and the light of heaven is Divine truth itself, from which is all intelligence. (5) Between the things in the internal man and those in the external there is a correspondence, therefore the different aspect they present is such that they can be distinguished only by means of a knowledge of correspondences. Unless these and many other things are known, nothing but incongruous ideas of spiritual and heavenly truths can be conceived and formed; therefore without these universals the knowledges and cognitions of the natural man can be of but little service to the rational man for understanding and growth. This makes clear how necessary knowledges are.“

 

https://swedenborg.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/swedenborg_foundation_heaven_and_hell.pdf

 

 

I have some reservations about his work/perspective, but they don’t detract from the essential information he explains. He appears to have a heavy christianity mind-set - although he himself does address the falsities of the then ‘modern church’. This ‘bent’ of his writings might put some people off but i’d say its worth reading despite this, because from his personal experiences he managed to distill very pertinent points about our human consciousness, and reality. 
Heaven and hell are not places but ‘states of being’ - he expresses this well, so is not at all ‘indoctrinated’ heavily by church dogma - rather he, like many other great seers/philosophers/adepts, was able to elucidate the essence of ‘knowledge of Truth” and how it applies to mankind, and how we use this knowledge to essentially, ‘self-realise’ : that is bring the spiritual man and earth man together, whole. 
 

 

[truepositive]

Great posts, thank you. I've yet to re-engage with the Jane Roberts material and signed up on the Cassiopeia forums because theyre good people. No need to work out the cosmos if our discernment is good.

[AngelGabriel]

On 9/18/2022 at 8:28 PM, atenea said:

In my opinion, anything that has a lot of promotion and is not censured, smells like .

This includes Joe Dispenza and Tony Robbins.

Same goes for Mr. Jordan Peterson and Joe Rohan, who seem more "out of the system", in my view they are not. They're just controlled opposition.

 

I fully agree. In my opinion this new meditation and manifestation stuff is another layer of the illusion. It's used to trap people in their mind and think that everything is fine. It keeps people from protesting and really recognizing what is going on. I don't think that Tony Robbins and others are bad people but I see this as another layer of control.

[QueenRia]

On 10/20/2022 at 1:23 AM, BeeThrive said:

The important awareness to ensure, is answering ‘what is it in our inner-most being we really really want?’ We do well to answer this as this is a ‘signal/vibration’ we’re ‘sending out’ into the field of consciousness we call reality, and attracting it to us.

Very very true! Could this be the ultimate reason for some people waking up to the conspiracies, while others (although they may be somewhat spiritually awake) remain blind? The first ones are Truth-seekers and the others are not really. 

[QueenRia]

On 10/20/2022 at 2:48 AM, BeeThrive said:

I have some reservations about his work/perspective, but they don’t detract from the essential information he explains. He appears to have a heavy christianity mind-set - although he himself does address the falsities of the then ‘modern church’. This ‘bent’ of his writings might put some people off but i’d say its worth reading despite this

 

I have no problem with that, as I have just started to look into Christianity & the teachings of Christ myself. I've found that once you "get the language", you can see how it's really talking about universal truths. I wasn't raised a Christian, so thankfully I got no church indoctrination and have no negative associations. 

Thanks for the tip, I will put Swedenborg on my reading list!

[webtrekker]

On 10/7/2022 at 7:57 PM, Techno Assassin said:

I mean, who knows, we could fall even deeper into 'the game' when VR becomes even more realistic than it is now......A dream inside a dream so to say.......

 

'All that we see or seem

Is but a dream within a dream.'

 

~ Poe

 

 

 

[webtrekker]

On 10/6/2022 at 8:28 PM, Techno Assassin said:

 

when living in a simulation, they could effectively transmit any 'feeling' to us they want....I mean, 4D AI, surely has some meaning to us being in a simulation right? We are in 3D, yet we view modern computer games to being in '3D' as opposed to older '2D' side scrolling games.......It all sounds simulation based to me, so 'they' could just simply alter the 'program' for you to 'feel' unconditional love etc.........as to where we actually stand as 'souls' is gonna take some serious noodle scratching....are we trapped here in this game, or did we come in willingly for example...its a noodle scratcher for sure.....if that actually is my noodle that im scratching......

 

You're right. This 'reality' we find ourselves in could be one huge grisly game. Why is it that all life on Earth has to kill other life to survive?

 

Maybe we're all bad folks lying in caskets somewhere and are being fed this virtual 'reality' as a punishment, a jail sentence if you like, and only escape when we die. There may be more to the saying 'only the good die young' than we imagine.

 

 

 

[BeeThrive]

5 hours ago, QueenRia said:

 

I have no problem with that, as I have just started to look into Christianity & the teachings of Christ myself. I've found that once you "get the language", you can see how it's really talking about universal truths. I wasn't raised a Christian, so thankfully I got no church indoctrination and have no negative associations. 

Thanks for the tip, I will put Swedenborg on my reading list!

You’ll likely like swedenborg then, if the language is no issue. Like you, i adjusted to it and even swedenborg himself attests to all ‘spiritual scripture’ has 2 translations = one: a literal ego-mind translation and 2: a spiritual perspective.

 

Its like reading ‘code language’. The realm of spirits has a language of symbols - so often in spiritual scriptures we have to understand the symbols for their meaning. The work of Tsarion and others go into symbolism translation. 
 

Thankfully i also had no religious indoctrination, so when reading religious scripture could identify controlling ego-based additions, aswell as could understand the deeper spiritual meaning, and finally could understand why religions follow such strange practices, because they take these scriptures too literally. 
 

Swedenborgs ‘regeneration’ title, offers solutions that his ‘heaven and hell’ doesnt really address directly, more indirectly.

(Go to swedenborg.com for free pdf’s of many titles)