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With all the talk about race these days and with racism apparently being an issue right here on this forum, I began to think. From my perspective, it is only really lost people that are still getting offended from those offering their opinions on race.

 

And certain opinions now are even illegal? There is a locked thread on this which made me recall this interview and several others by one of our greatest activists and a great thinker as well...

 

I am not even saying I agree or disagree here, but it brings questions.

 

Would this be illegal to say today? Would Ali need to be banned/canceled regardless? Or are topics like this still allowed to be discussed? And if not, why? And what does that say about liberty?

 

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7 hours ago, endfreemasonscum said:

 

With all the talk about race these days and with racism apparently being an issue right here on this forum, I began to think. From my perspective, it is only really lost people that are still getting offended from those offering their opinions on race.

 

And certain opinions now are even illegal? There is a locked thread on this which made me recall this interview and several others by one of our greatest activists and a great thinker as well...

 

I am not even saying I agree or disagree here, but it brings questions.

 

Would this be illegal to say today? Would Ali need to be banned/canceled regardless? Or are topics like this still allowed to be discussed? And if not, why? And what does that say about liberty?

 

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“racism apparently being an issue right here on this forum”

 

Racism isn’t apparently an issue on the forum. Racism IS an issue on the Forum.

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in trying to understand the conspiracy we should really be looking at the MACRO issues which is to say what effect things have on a grand scale for example:

what happens when the central banks create lots of currency? or what happens when large numbers of people are injected with experimental jabs?

 

With the 'race' side of things the macro is asking: 'what happens when you move around millions of people?' 'what impact does that have on our society and their society?' and i think those are all totally legit sort of questions to ask

 

The problem comes when people talk on the micro level and make it personal for example if they said 'i don't like you because you are a migrant'. That's where things stray towards irrational feelings and racism

 

I have liked many migrants i've met in my life. I don't have a personal issue with any migrants as individuals. What i'm interested in is what happens when the cabal do a LOT of something and WHY they are doing that in order that i can understand the conspiracy

 

WHY the mass immigration, WHY the critical theory, WHY ramping up of tensions? what do they hope to achieve through it all?

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19 hours ago, andy1033 said:

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I think it's fair to say that there are a lot of jews working in certain areas like: banking, psychiatry, diamonds and media. Not all jews of course! I don't want to be unfair to the many jews doing productive things...

 

If you think about it none of those areas CREATE anything. Arguably banking used to have a use in that the theory was that people who had spare money could take it into a bank and deposit it and then people who needed a loan in order to CREATE something like a business could then approach the bank who would assess the worthiness of the proposal and then decide whether or not to provide that loan

 

But with the removal of the glass-steagal act they removed the barrier between high street banks and commercial banks and this turned the whole thing into a giant casino which led to the 2008 crash. So that form of banking wasn't creating anything, only destroying the economy

 

With diamonds it's black africans who actually do the dangerous work of mining them hence 'blood diamonds' and with psychiatry the psychiatrist just listens to the person then doses them with big pharma drugs (which are being proven to not work) so that's really more about containment then growth

 

The corporate media is a lie factory and a giant vehicle for social engineering

 

The STEM (science, technology, engineering, maths) areas are always said to be full of white males as if wanting to actually create, build and innovate is a bad thing! But instead of being celebrated for doing that they are attacked

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2 hours ago, Macnamara said:

WHY the mass immigration, WHY the critical theory, WHY ramping up of tensions? what do they hope to achieve through it all?

on an economically business driven notion, i suggest it is to 1. control wages 2. raise international loans (£1m credit per new citizen around 10 years back) 3. cheaper to import trained staff

on a socially driven notion , i suggest its all to negatively impact english culture

 

generally speaking i think , as with most other things, its to divert attention away from spiritual growth , from the self, in varying degrees.

whether its the Irish immigration, post war immigration, EU immigration, dingy divers, its all funneled into a packaged storyline to sell to the public

 

progressively self sufficiency has been stopped and its should be no suprise when the country is reliant upon foreign fuel, it is also reliant upon foreign workers and it is also reliant upon foreign investment

 

Stopping the dingy divers is a must but i feel, like the ship em off to Rwanda policy, there is multiple bureaucracy exisitng which perpetuates the rot.

 

 

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Weve been totally brainwashed to believe ethno nationalism is a very bad, evil, vile thing by the same people that have the only ethno state in the world, based on pseudo racial bullshit..that treat the indigenous like this.

This is what happens when you dont defend your borders from foreign invaders, you end up getting the same treatment.

Living in PC woke world tho, you will cancelled & hunted down by communist for speaking out.

Its okay to be white.

 

 

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11 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Weve been totally brainwashed to believe ethno nationalism is a very bad, evil, vile thing by the same people that have the only ethno state in the world, based on pseudo racial bullshit..that treat the indigenous like this.

This is what happens when you dont defend your borders from foreign invaders, you end up getting the same treatment.

Living in PC woke world tho, you will cancelled & hunted down by communist for speaking out.

Its okay to be white.

 

 

 

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I don't agree with Ali's rigid way of thinking about race, but I think I understand why he holds those beliefs. He certainly has the right to feel the way he wants. When it comes to race, I think I'm more attuned to George Carlin mindset:

 

 

He was also correct when he said:

"This country was founded by a group of slave owners who wanted to be. Am I right? A group of slave owners who wanted to be free! So they killed a lot of white English people in order to continue owning their black African people, so they could wipe out the rest of the red Indian people, in order to move west and steal the rest of the land from the brown Mexican people, giving them a place to take off and drop their nuclear weapons on the yellow Japanese people. You know what the motto for this country ought to be? 'You give us a color, we'll wipe it out.'"

 

 

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oh come on!

 

All groups of people, tribes, cultures and societies have and do engage in dominating, pillaging, raping resources from another group. (the modern world has funelled this ego desire into the tribalism of football) The fucking Dali Lama has an army... an army. Hes sooo peaceful and enlightened. wanker Shangri-La-ism

 

The inference of Carlin and others commentators on 'White mans' history is that no other group tried to dominate another group ever. As if the Japanese people got on with each other in harmony. South American and Central american people were in harmony before the Spanish arrived

 

And with Muhammed Ali s comments, as if the people of Nigeria or Somalia or  Republic of Congo were living in the Garden of Eden before White Man arrived and because their appearance was pleasing on their eye and was similar to their own appearance. Love and joy was rampant.

 

BULLSHIT

 

racism is the epitome of the Muhammed Ali and Carlin discourse.

 

maybe if they read Lacan their outlook would be better?

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> Be George Carlin
> Love CNN
> Constantly mock conservatives
> Take the piss out of those that are pro-life
> Pro-gun control
> Godless
> Muh drugs

> Nihilist
> Makes redditors feel smart for confirming observations that every normal human being already knew
> Hated nationalism
> Rapey
> Often trends on twitter because normies interpret his rants as Anti-Trump

 

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On 9/10/2022 at 2:57 PM, zArk said:

on an economically business driven notion, i suggest it is to 1. control wages 2. raise international loans (£1m credit per new citizen around 10 years back) 3. cheaper to import trained staff

 

if we see that the elites endgame is a technocracy with a centralised, globalised, digitalised currency then notions of financial wealth are purely absract

 

the elites can create as much or as little of that kind of 'wealth' for themselves as they like

 

so are they really motivated by things like 'wages' and 'loans' and 'cheap staff?'. i don't think so. I think we have to look to other things to understand what they are doing

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