The British Pub

[alexa]

They are really trying to destroy our locals, first it was the smoking ban & then covid, and now this;

 

'We risk losing the British pub forever': Venues choose between closing down or 'charging £14 a PINT' to stay afloat with some now shutting for two days a week and cutting menu items amid £80,000 spikes in energy bills 

Pubs across the country are reducing hours and closing as energy bills rise by tens of thousands, with landlords describing it as 'an even bigger crisis than Covid' and the potential end of the British pub.

 

 

This is their way of stopping socializing for ever

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

This is their way of stopping socializing for ever

 

 

Bingo.

[HAARPING_On]

The pub closures following the 2008 crash will be nothing compared to what's coming this winter... it's going to be absolute carnage.

 

This will also extend to other small retail businesses too, the local butcher here has already started shutting on Monday as he doesn't generate enough business to open.

[Mikhail Liebestein]

Yes, local prices are a shocker for food and drink. A lot is to do with the footfall in combination with power prices hike, a local pub might have survived on some local and some passing trade. Whereas venues in city centres might get more customer overwhich they can spread the overheads/fixed costs. 

 

To set the tone, 2 recent business lunches, one for 3 people total £107 for fish+chips a beer and small dessert at a local pub. The other was in London, for £7 people with mains  drinks and desserts £120. 

 

Locals are being killed!! 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Mikhail Liebestein

[Greenhulk50]

8 hours ago, alexa said:

They are really trying to destroy our locals, first it was the smoking ban & then covid, and now this;

 

'We risk losing the British pub forever': Venues choose between closing down or 'charging £14 a PINT' to stay afloat with some now shutting for two days a week and cutting menu items amid £80,000 spikes in energy bills 

Pubs across the country are reducing hours and closing as energy bills rise by tens of thousands, with landlords describing it as 'an even bigger crisis than Covid' and the potential end of the British pub.

 

 

This is their way of stopping socializing for ever

 

 

It's happening with Cinemas as well I read Cineworld is going bust , they want people to stay at home watching football and Netflix movies on their Cheap Argos, Tesco huge 65 inch Smart OLED  TVs , don't socialize and talk , it's sad to see so many of the old style pubs closing.

Edited September 1, 2022 by Greenhulk50
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[alexa]

What saddens me, is there nothing anyone can do about it. 

[eddy64]

most of the pubs in my area are already gone, probably 80% knocked down afaik.

[Anti Facts Sir]

1 hour ago, Greenhulk50 said:

It's happening with Cinemas as well I read Cineworld is going bust , they want people to stay at home watching football and Netflix movies on their Cheap Argos, Tesco huge 65 inch Smart OLED  TVs , don't socialize and talk , it's sad to see so many of the old style pubs closing.

I haven't been to the flicks in 20 yrs or so, but one of those big out of town ones I pass by seems to still be quite busy. Unless they're all there for the Costa.

 

No doubt it'll close as well, since this isn't about anything else than destroying society and changing people's habits so they stay indoors.

[northern star]

For what its worth, there's a petition trying to stop it happening

 

https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/pubs-first-petition?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=blast2022-08-30

 

Edited September 1, 2022 by northern star

[King James]

4 hours ago, alexa said: What saddens me, is there nothing anyone can do about it.    Dont be sad, be active. Go to the pub more often and drink more while your there. Mines a large Jameson's.

[Grumpy Owl]

2 hours ago, northern star said:

For what its worth, there's a petition trying to stop it happening

 

https://act.38degrees.org.uk/act/pubs-first-petition?utm_source=email&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=blast2022-08-30

 

As much as I'd like the idea, sadly these petitions set up on 38degrees, Change.org etc, don't actually achieve anything, their main purpose is to make virtue-signallers "feel good" (like they feel like they are 'doing something' by signing some online petition and then sharing on social media with their friends), and I suspect they are also some kind of data-harvesting / intelligence gathering operation.

 

8 hours ago, HAARPING_On said:

This will also extend to other small retail businesses too, the local butcher here has already started shutting on Monday as he doesn't generate enough business to open.

 

I read a couple of local news stories recently, about some independent fish-and-chip shops being forced to go out of business due to "rising energy costs".

 

I do notice that this all doesn't seem to be affecting many of these 'cheaper' independent chicken takeaways and kebab shops you see everywhere (and still more opening up).

 

Also of interest is that this doesn't seem to be affecting the likes of McDonalds, Burger King, KFC, Subway, Costa, Greggs, Starbucks et al.

 

3 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

I haven't been to the flicks in 20 yrs or so, but one of those big out of town ones I pass by seems to still be quite busy. Unless they're all there for the Costa.

 

No doubt it'll close as well, since this isn't about anything else than destroying society and changing people's habits so they stay indoors.

 

Amazing isn't it how all that will be left standing are the 'big corporate' brands, and that is the ultimate intention.

 

Of course, when it comes to pubs, how are Wetherspoons doing? No doubt theirs will be the only pubs left as well.

[Golden Retriever]

4 hours ago, alexa said:

What saddens me, is there nothing anyone can do about it. 

 

If you don't use it, you'll lose it as the expression goes, but I know their main concerns are energy prices.

 

  "British beer is over-taxed. We pay some of the highest rates of duty on beer in Europe – second only to Finland. Lower tax on beer will help keep a trip to the pub an affordable pleasure"

 

https://beerandpub.com/campaigns/beer-duty/

 

Some villages only have a shop and a pub, which is the heart of the community.

 

 

 

[Golden Retriever]

Ireland suffered severe Covid restrictions. This pub wake was unimaginable for most of 2020-2022.  Some

people are still literally traumatised from the fear mongering and I doubt if this scene is common now.

 

Enjoy!

 

 

 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Golden Retriever

[Artie Fufkin]

14 hours ago, alexa said:

They are really trying to destroy our locals, first it was the smoking ban & then covid, and now this;

 

'We risk losing the British pub forever': Venues choose between closing down or 'charging £14 a PINT' to stay afloat with some now shutting for two days a week and cutting menu items amid £80,000 spikes in energy bills 

Pubs across the country are reducing hours and closing as energy bills rise by tens of thousands, with landlords describing it as 'an even bigger crisis than Covid' and the potential end of the British pub.

 

 

This is their way of stopping socializing for ever

Indeed. shutting down social hubs, where folks can express their concerns and have chats together that are are difficult to monitor due to music, crowd noise etc, need to be abolished if the psychopathic network can ease their way into their next phase of plan. Along with the aspect where landlords and staff will face major difficulties financially, and many may become homeless, there is the psychological effect on customers who (some) rely on their local as a source of social contact and friendship. Utterly disgraceful..but not surprising.

 

 

[Fluke]

Been happening for a long time but I don't think the pub is going anywhere to be honest. The landlords don't always help themselves and the brewery's make it difficult for the landlords. Where I live years ago there would have been pubs in back roads, a of them now are houses. So it's been happening for a long time and of course things of changed. Change which is largely planned imho.

 

Edit 

 

Anyone remember the death of the pub thread on the original forum around 2009/10/11ish? 

Edited September 1, 2022 by Fluke

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

They hate pubs. People gather there and exchange ideas. People in pubs can't be controlled and their speech curtailed. Hence the £14 pint. Soon they will be a footnote in history and maybe they'll show one in the British Museum to remind people of what used to be the social hub of communities around Britain. Being an expat, the pub is one of the things I miss most.

[Golden Retriever]

4 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said:

They hate pubs. People gather there and exchange ideas. People in pubs can't be controlled and their speech curtailed. Hence the £14 pint. Soon they will be a footnote in history and maybe they'll show one in the British Museum to remind people of what used to be the social hub of communities around Britain. Being an expat, the pub is one of the things I miss most.

 

 

Me too.

 

Sir Alan Sugar turned Ye Old Kings Head Pub in Chigwell into an expensive Turkish Restaurant unaffordable to most locals, where

all the fake, suntanned reality TV celebs hang out. YUK

 

"Ye Olde Kings Head in Chigwell High Road, which claims to have served beer to Charles Dickens, highwayman Dick Turpin and Winston Churchill, was bought by entrepreneur Alan Sugar in April and will be leased to the owners of the Turkish restaurant Sheesh in Buckhurst Hill once it has been refurbished"

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

14 minutes ago, Fluke said:

Been happening for a long time but I don't think the pub is going anywhere to be honest.

 

They're still lively where I live, but I live in a pretty affluent area. Not sure about poorer areas though.

 

I do think that elites are scared of places where British people socialize. Not condoning National Socialism, but beer hall putsch tactics are probably a threat to the powers that be regardless of ideology.

[alexa]

27 minutes ago, Artie Fufkin said:

Indeed. shutting down social hubs, where folks can express their concerns and have chats together that are are difficult to monitor due to music, crowd noise etc, need to be abolished if the psychopathic network can ease their way into their next phase of plan.

 

I've just watched this video in 'YOUTUBERS Are Spreading LIES About HOLOGRAMS' thanks to @Puzzle

Is this part of their next plan ? To be like God and know your thoughts.

 

 

 

 

[Fluke]

1 minute ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

I do think that elites are scared of places where British people socialize. Not condoning National Socialism, but beer hall putsch tactics are probably a threat to the powers that be regardless of ideology

I think they are happy with your average numbskull fighting over the latest chelea result to be honest. But of course i agree its designed to stop any unity. 

[EnigmaticWorld]

Just now, Fluke said:

I think they are happy with your average numbskull fighting over the latest chelea result to be honest. But of course i agree its designed to stop any unity. 

 

Depends on the pub. Some pubs have less hooliganism and more of a family environment, but I hear you.

[Golden Retriever]

How many pubs have been lost in YOUR area? Map shows numbers have fallen below 40,000 for first time with 7,000 closing in the last decade as landlords battle record-high inflation and soaring energy bills

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10980063/Map-shows-pubs-closed-region-England.html

[Ethel]

You must be psychic, I was thinking about this just today.

 

It says a lot about humanity at this point in time that people would grieve the loss of places where people pay money to drink poison.

 

Also, I find it genuinely traumatic to be around drunk people nowadays. There seems to be a trait in many drinkers that they wish to drag everyone else down to their level, or else insult and shout at those of us who wish to remain tee-total. 

 

Yeah, what a miserable stick in the mud! 

[Nemuri Kyoshiro]

My old local has been shut down. It's all boarded up now.

 

[EnigmaticWorld]

1 minute ago, Ethel said:

You must be psychic, I was thinking about this just today.

 

It says a lot about humanity at this point in time that people would grieve the loss of places where people pay money to drink poison.

 

Also, I find it genuinely traumatic to be around drunk people nowadays. There seems to be a trait in many drinkers that they wish to drag everyone else down to their level, or else insult and shout at those of us who wish to remain tee-total. 

 

Yeah, what a miserable stick in the mud! 

 

I come from a Christian family. I never grew up around drink, but I still like some pub environments. Who says you have to drink alcohol at a pub though? I do these days, but I'm not one to get bladdered. I find people that get bladdered a bit obnoxious anyway. They lose their self-awareness and don't understand how annoying they are to people that aren't drunk.