H2O no go go

[Mikhail Liebestein]

So whilst its not exactly forcing us to regain the Blitz spirit, I will mention that yesterday and today parts of Surrey and Sussex have been almost entirely without water. Essentially its the Thames water region, postcode RH4, RH5, RH12; and GU5 and GU6.

 

A pretty poor show on a day when temperatures will hit 35C.

 

I'm sorted for now my inner survivalist having kicked I panic bought mineral water yesterday, and to be fair we also have the kids steel frame swimming pool which we could resort to filtering and boiling. I'm sure it will contain plenty of chlorine, urine and suncream, but that can be purified.

 

As an engineer I am used to the idea of redundant systems, but this seems to have been forgotten in many cases.

 

It almost as if by design they want the water supply to collapse coupled with geo-drought-engineering.

[Grumpy Owl]

I wrote a little article on my website a couple of weeks ago, basically lamenting how an island surrounded by so much water, can be facing water shortages.

 

Dire warnings of water shortages on an island surrounded by seas

https://thegrumpyowl.co.uk/2022/07/31/dire-warnings-of-water-shortages-on-an-island-surrounded-by-seas/

 

 

Would be interested to hear how many of these hand car wash businesses are still operating round there?

[DarianF]

42 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

I wrote a little article on my website a couple of weeks ago, basically lamenting how an island surrounded by so much water, can be facing water shortages.

 

Dire warnings of water shortages on an island surrounded by seas

https://thegrumpyowl.co.uk/2022/07/31/dire-warnings-of-water-shortages-on-an-island-surrounded-by-seas/

 

 

Would be interested to hear how many of these hand car wash businesses are still operating round there?

 

 

 

The Arabs are way ahead on this.

[webtrekker]

Exactly! Just consider the £37billion wasted on that useless Test & Trace app. That would have gone a long way towards the cost of building water desal plants.

 

Also, consider this, - It's being forecasted that many will suffer and die this winter due to fuel shortages and cost of living increases while they lie in their deathbeds on top of huge resources of natural gas, coal and oil.

 

We are all so fucking complacent in this country. It truly beggars belief!

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by webtrekker

[TheConsultant]

2 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

Exactly! Just consider the £37billion wasted on that useless Track & Test app

I-is that figure a typo?

[DarianF]

Hey @Grumpy Owl. Your article just reminded me of a small Greek Island I visited a few years ago. Here's an article on it:

 

New desalination plant provides quality water to Iraklia island, Greece

https://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/en/projects/Greece/new-desalination-plant-provides-quality-water-to-iraklia-island-greece

[Anti Facts Sir]

It's all by design.

[webtrekker]

2 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

I-is that figure a typo?

 

Depends who you believe! FullFact say 13.5 billion but the 37 billion figure is quted in many other places. Even so, it's a LOT of money that could have been used more effectively.

[TheConsultant]

3 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

Depends who you believe! FullFact say 13.5 billion but the 37 billion figure is quted in many other places. Even so, it's a LOT of money that could have been used more effectively.

First time I had heard the figure is all, and I have since verified it. If it cost £37 million I would be questioning where the money was spent. Gov really are a bunch of criminals.

Edited August 13, 2022 by TheConsultant

[webtrekker]

14 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

First time I had heard the figure is all, and I have since verified it. If it cost £37 million I would be questioning where the money was spent. Gov really are a bunch of criminals.

 

Ah, I see. No worries.

 

Anyway, for the benefit of others reading this thread, here are the 'facts' as published in Wikipedia ...

 

The initial budget for the service was £15 billion, rising to £22bn in November 2020, and a further £15bn was allocated for 2021–22 to bring the total for the two years to £37bn. Routine contact tracing was halted on 24 February 2022.

 

As for power requirements, I came across this US quote ...

 

Based on the data from the Office of
the Energy Markets and End Use, the
average annual household energy
power consumption is 11.0 MW.

If the entire community is served by
seawater desalinated water, the
annual power required for the
desalination plant to serve a house is
1.0 MW, or an increase of less than
10%.

In most cases, however, the
existing traditional supply sources are
augmented with seawater and/ or
brackish water desalinated waters,
which further reduces the percent
increase to typically less than 5%

 

When I visited Aruba, which has no fresh drinking water of it's own, the guide proudly described it's seawater desalination plant. Aruba has been desalinating water since 1903.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited August 13, 2022 by webtrekker

[webtrekker]

From what I gather (and I haven't reseached this extensively), the Thames water desalination plant cost £250 MILLION to develop and build. For £37 BILLION we could have built 148 such plants around the country! And that's just on the money that was wasted on Test & Trace!

[Anti Facts Sir]

Nevermind, chuck a few more billion to "help" Yewkraine in their "war" against Russia.

[Grumpy Owl]

1 hour ago, webtrekker said:

From what I gather (and I haven't reseached this extensively), the Thames water desalination plant cost £250 MILLION to develop and build. For £37 BILLION we could have built 148 such plants around the country! And that's just on the money that was wasted on Test & Trace!

 

@oddsnsods posted in another topic about the UK's only desalination plant being shut down, is this the same one?

[webtrekker]

6 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

@oddsnsods posted in another topic about the UK's only desalination plant being shut down, is this the same one?

 

Yes, I believe it is, Grumpy Owl.

 

 

 

[Grumpy Owl]

2 hours ago, DarianF said:

Hey @Grumpy Owl. Your article just reminded me of a small Greek Island I visited a few years ago. Here's an article on it:

 

New desalination plant provides quality water to Iraklia island, Greece

https://ec.europa.eu/regional_policy/en/projects/Greece/new-desalination-plant-provides-quality-water-to-iraklia-island-greece

 

Thanks for that, very interesting. For a small island that is presumably quite a small scale plant, and if I'm reading that document correctly, the total cost was just over half a million Euros. Which makes you realise just how overpriced many large-scale projects that get undertaken in our country are.

[Mikhail Liebestein]

2 hours ago, webtrekker said:

Exactly! Just consider the £37billion wasted on that useless Test & Trace app. That would have gone a long way towards the cost of building water desal plants.

 

Also, consider this, - It's being forecasted that many will suffer and die this winter due to fuel shortages and cost of living increases while they lie in their deathbeds on top of huge resources of natural gas, coal and oil.

 

We are all so fucking complacent in this country. It truly beggars belief!

 

 

 

 

Indeed.

 

People actually die from a lack of water, Covid on the other hand was a scam.

[Captainlove]

43 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Thanks for that, very interesting. For a small island that is presumably quite a small scale plant, and if I'm reading that document correctly, the total cost was just over half a million Euros. Which makes you realise just how overpriced many large-scale projects that get undertaken in our country are.

My dad used to do some work for Mc Alpine back in the 80s/90s and he always said when tendering for a large job they always over priced it because else you wouldnt get the job. I believe when it was goverment jobs it was even higher. Something to do with getting grants etc. But really the only people making real money was the share holders or the CEO.

[Grumpy Owl]

12 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

My dad used to do some work for Mc Alpine back in the 80s/90s and he always said when tendering for a large job they always over priced it because else you wouldnt get the job. I believe when it was goverment jobs it was even higher. Something to do with getting grants etc. But really the only people making real money was the share holders or the CEO.

 

I can agree with that almost entirely. The difference now is that contracts get 'awarded' based on a set-price, but then that cost figure just then starts rising, see HS2 for example. I'm sure most of the costs of these projects are just siphoned off to executives and managers on huge salaries.

[Tinfoil Hat]

I'd certainly want to prioritise water supply above, say Star frickin' Link, if I ruled the world. The water shortage goes beyond personal hygeine. There are fields full of shrivelled up crops already. All ready for the starvation drive. 

[Mikhail Liebestein]

Here is the Daily Mail and local Surrey papers  take, for some reason they were more interested in ex England Footballer Graeme Le Saux.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11108369/Surrey-residents-queue-bottled-water-waking-taps.html

 

https://www.getsurrey.co.uk/news/surrey-news/thames-waters-loss-water-supply-24749758

 

What I don't get is round my was in Dorking there is loads of chalk aquifer, bloody useless  water company.

[zArk]

2 things reccomended to different govs

 

1. more resevoirs

2. water pipe line around the uk or canal system north to south

 

harvesting the yearly floods and distrubting the stored water obviously too much trouble for the cunts in Gov

[Grumpy Owl]

4 minutes ago, zArk said:

2 things reccomended to different govs

 

1. more resevoirs

2. water pipe line around the uk or canal system north to south

 

harvesting the yearly floods and distrubting the stored water obviously too much trouble for the cunts in Gov

 

Yes, I've seen recommendations that the UK government needs to build more reservoirs as there hasn't been any built for a number of years.

 

There are already pipelines across the UK to transfer water where needed.

 

As I see it, the current network of reservoirs and supply pipelines all 'bank' on the UK receiving its usual annual amount of rainfall during the winter months (when it tends to rain a lot).

 

However the water infrastructure in this country is built and designed for a time when population levels were lower.

 

The more homes you keep building, and the more people you keep 'inviting' into the country, the 'demand' for clean fresh water supplies increases in certain areas of the country.

 

It's not exactly rocket science. But it does beg the question of why this wasn't thought about or taken into consideration years ago?

[webtrekker]

16 minutes ago, zArk said:

2 things reccomended to different govs

 

1. more resevoirs

2. water pipe line around the uk or canal system north to south

 

harvesting the yearly floods and distrubting the stored water obviously too much trouble for the cunts in Gov

 

Or ...

 

3. Drastically reduce the population.

 

But of course, they wouldn't do that. Would they ...?

 

 

 

[Gurualvin]

On 8/13/2022 at 1:57 PM, webtrekker said:

Exactly! Just consider the £37billion wasted on that useless Test & Trace app. That would have gone a long way towards the cost of building water desal plants.

 

Also, consider this, - It's being forecasted that many will suffer and die this winter due to fuel shortages and cost of living increases while they lie in their deathbeds on top of huge resources of natural gas, coal and oil.

 

We are all so fucking complacent in this country. It truly beggars belief!

 

 

 

And the complacency and cowardness, constantly gets us all in deep shit. One day the sheep might wake and grow up, but i doubt it. I think the sheep are going to be casualties one way or the other.

[DarianF]

On 8/14/2022 at 1:08 AM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

Thanks for that, very interesting. For a small island that is presumably quite a small scale plant, and if I'm reading that document correctly, the total cost was just over half a million Euros. Which makes you realise just how overpriced many large-scale projects that get undertaken in our country are.

 

For the COVID scam, there was an unlimited budget. For real things though, we must remain frugal