Bombadil Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 10 hours ago, oddsnsods said: Someone sees it. Nails it. Government and media backed mob rule. Some bizarre mix between the Gestapo and the peoples revolution in China. I used to experience the mentality he talks about. Younger sisters both Uni educated, offended by everything. They would defend rapists and paedophiles. All backed by my brother and mother who would defend everything they said. They still live together in a biter home of wokeism. There all in their 30's and 40's now. The negativity and hate towards everything was intense. The best thing I did for me and my family was to tell them to fuck off. 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 12 hours ago, Athenry04 said: Yeah dodgy, 34 years to get to him, no chance. This is agenda driven. A radio commentator; 'they said they'd get him" Yeah it's all very dodgy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) The Independent just now ... In a now-deleted tweet, fellow author Aatish Taseer said Mr Rushdie was able to talk, which later the celebrated author’s agent Andrew Wylie confirmed to the Associated Press without offering further details. Sales of Salman Rushdie’s controversial book The Satanic Verses have skyrocketed. In the immediate aftermath of the attack, many people encouraged others to go out and buy a copy in a show of solidarity. P.S. Interesting that Macron's tweet mentions hatred and barbarism. Edited August 14, 2022 by Observations 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 I heard the words, on the news, assassination attempt, ritualistic fashion, was he lone or part of a terrorist network, but that was all I caught. I have no idea why ritual or ritualistic was mentioned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Anyone else read that Salman is currently swimming upstream? in all seriousness hes awake, off ventillator and joking supposedly? he allegedly had his jugular injured, amongst other places. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 6 hours ago, Observations said: Sales of Salman Rushdie’s controversial book The Satanic Verses have skyrocketed. In the immediate aftermath of the attack, many people encouraged others to go out and buy a copy in a show of solidarity. Nope, I'm still not going to buy and read this, doesn't sound like my cup of tea. And there's that word 'solidarity' again. It's like people can't think for themselves anymore, they just respond to 'the latest thing' and do what they are expected to do, under the pretence of 'showing solidarity', whatever that actually means. (Just another form of virtue-signalling really) 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 5 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: Anyone else read that Salman is currently swimming upstream? in all seriousness hes awake, off ventillator and joking supposedly? he allegedly had his jugular injured, amongst other places. Yes, I heard it on LBC News, and I thought it was rather odd, especially as we're not allowed to joke anymore? Ha, upstream , took me a mo to get that There was something noticeable about the description of his joking, I'll check what I heard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 (edited) It was described by his son as his fiesty and defiant sense of humour. Wow, that's what the British have, or is it used to have? No it's have, gotta think positive. Crikey. Oh by coincidence I heard the Chelsea Spurs game was also fiesty (managers) Edited August 14, 2022 by Observations Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 On 8/13/2022 at 10:59 AM, Grumpy Owl said: Still not really interested in reading it to be honest. I scanned Goodreads too because I'm not going to read it: not really my type of fiction. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Observations said: Oh by coincidence I heard the Chelsea Spurs game was also fiesty (managers) An Italian and a German. Conte is a lunatic. Good manager, but knows how to wind people up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: And there's that word 'solidarity' again. It's like people can't think for themselves anymore, they just respond to 'the latest thing' and do what they are expected to do, under the pretence of 'showing solidarity', whatever that actually means. (Just another form of virtue-signalling really) Yeah, solidarity with what exactly, or who(m)? Dodgy old attention-seeking writers with gongs from Her Maj? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete675 Posted August 14, 2022 Share Posted August 14, 2022 Always wondered if he has intelligence links, as the entire Satanic Verses episode seemed designed to stir Muslims up. This attack is likely to increase the clamour for sanctions/war against Iran, politicians and Boobus Americanus get angry and worked up now, like they never did over Rachel Corrie.' Eh , who's that?' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bombadil Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 On 8/14/2022 at 10:24 PM, Anti Facts Sir said: Yeah, solidarity with what exactly, or who(m)? Dodgy old attention-seeking writers with gongs from Her Maj? It’s solidarity that got us into this covid bullshit mess. If everyone in the world minded their own business everything would be fine. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 Solidarity with the NHS and "key workers" (what a wonderfully Orwellian phrase) Solidarity with BLM and LGBLT+ Solidarity with Yewkane.. and on it goes.... 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useyournous Posted August 15, 2022 Share Posted August 15, 2022 I never read the satanic verses because at the time I was too afraid to even purchase it let alone read it! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted August 17, 2022 Share Posted August 17, 2022 On 8/14/2022 at 12:19 AM, Athenry04 said: Yeah dodgy, 34 years to get to him, no chance. This is agenda driven. On 8/14/2022 at 12:58 PM, Observations said: A radio commentator; 'they said they'd get him" Yeah it's all very dodgy. To inject a little humour, as we do, it reminds me a little of an old joke from Ben Elton when he was still doing stand up on Friday / Saturday Live ... ah wonderful times ... he played on the marketing catch phrase "British Rail, we're getting there", but were not getting there very fast ... 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hegel Schmegel Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 I'm surprised no one on this forum has yet to post a real howler, saying this was part of a Zionist conspiracy. Enough with the bullshit. This was not a Jew living in the U.S. who did this now, was it? (Nor was this a 'false-flag.') My heart goes out to Rushdie and his family and friends. From all the news accounts I've read of this horrific incident, it's said the attacker's parents had emigrated from Lebanon and it's been reported that the man accused of the crime was sympathetic to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard of Iran. What happened to Rushdie was motivated by sheer hatred. No wonder so many non-Muslims in the West are anti-Islamic. They have every right to be afraid of what wackos are possibly out there lurking in the shadows and driven by their ideologically diseased minds. Obviously, the majority of Muslims in the West are peaceful people who would be just as condemning of this heinous act as just about everyone (save for Islamists and many of their anti-Zionist bedfellows), which is why upon reading this thread I was surprised to find so few voices critical of this attack and unable to see this for what it was. Surely, as well, if there's any people who are pro-free speech it would be David Icke followers/forum posters, which makes some of the comments in this thread utterly baffling to read. There's nothing the least bit offensive in The Satanic Verses and even if some think there is, so what. There's many passages in the Koran and others in the Hadith that a lot of non-Muslims find troubling, if not hateful, but I don't think any of these ones would say that these texts ought to be banned. Therein lies the glaring distinction between those who honor and defend the fundamental freedoms of truly democratic countries and those anachronistic, benighted barbarians of the world who wrongly and demonically believe in the literal sword over the innocuous pen. Years ago in my high-school days I tried reading The Satanic Verses, curious as I was to see what all the excitement was about. About 70 or 80 pages into it I remember thinking that the only thing the book could ever be negatively accused of, was its being unreadable. I highly doubt that the majority of anti-Rushdie Islamists over the years have even bothered to read the excruciatingly boring tome, even if translated into their own language. Someone else already mentioned Curb Your Enthusiasm. Great show. "Fatwa" was a funny episode and it was fun to see Rushdie in a cameo. (Where the show's producers ever found the men to play those austere, judgmental high muck-a-mucks would be interesting to learn, but a large part of me suspects these were not actors playing themselves...not unless these were actual Islamists unaware they were being filmed for a sitcom.) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 The BBC are repeating old docs about the Satanic Verses next week, just in case any other "crazed individual" filled with "hatred" wants to take another pop at Rushdie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnigmaticWorld Posted August 25, 2022 Share Posted August 25, 2022 11 minutes ago, Hegel Schmegel said: I'm surprised no one on this forum has yet to post a real howler, saying this was part of a Zionist conspiracy. Enough with the bullshit. This was not a Jew living in the U.S. who did this now, was it? (Nor was this a 'false-flag.') My heart goes out to Rushdie and his family and friends. From all the news accounts I've read of this horrific incident, it's said the attacker's parents had emigrated from Lebanon and it's been reported that the man accused of the crime was sympathetic to the Islamic Revolutionary Guard of Iran. What happened to Rushdie was motivated by sheer hatred. No wonder so many non-Muslims in the West are anti-Islamic. They have every right to be afraid of what wackos are possibly out there lurking in the shadows and driven by their ideologically diseased minds. Obviously, the majority of Muslims in the West are peaceful people who would be just as condemning of this heinous act as just about everyone (save for Islamists and many of their anti-Zionist bedfellows), which is why upon reading this thread I was surprised to find so few voices critical of this attack and unable to see this for what it was. Surely, as well, if there's any people who are pro-free speech it would be David Icke followers/forum posters, which makes some of the comments in this thread utterly baffling to read. There's nothing the least bit offensive in The Satanic Verses and even if some think there is, so what. There's many passages in the Koran and others in the Hadith that a lot of non-Muslims find troubling, if not hateful, but I don't think any of these ones would say that these texts ought to be banned. Therein lies the glaring distinction between those who honor and defend the fundamental freedoms of truly democratic countries and those anachronistic, benighted barbarians of the world who wrongly and demonically believe in the literal sword over the innocuous pen. Years ago in my high-school days I tried reading The Satanic Verses, curious as I was to see what all the excitement was about. About 70 or 80 pages into it I remember thinking that the only thing the book could ever be negatively accused of, was its being unreadable. I highly doubt that the majority of anti-Rushdie Islamists over the years have even bothered to read the excruciatingly boring tome, even if translated into their own language. Someone else already mentioned Curb Your Enthusiasm. Great show. "Fatwa" was a funny episode and it was fun to see Rushdie in a cameo. (Where the show's producers ever found the men to play those austere, judgmental high muck-a-mucks would be interesting to learn, but a large part of me suspects these were not actors playing themselves...not unless these were actual Islamists unaware they were being filmed for a sitcom.) If you ever want to talk about Soviet satellite Iran, and secret Iran-Israel history then I'm down. No zio Pamela Geller BS like last time though. Some of us do notice those that want us to fight their wars for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 Muslims Publish Westerner Kill List: Targets Have Disappeared, Been Eliminated or Live Under Protection Amy Mek August 25, 2022 “Threats and intimidation demonstrate the tenacity of the journalistic work done by these courageous people.” Islamic extremists in 2012 published a terrifying “most wanted list,” like those of the FBI. Title: “Yes, we can. A bullet a day keeps the infidel away…” What happened to the faces and names on that list? They have been killed, left the public arena to protect themselves, or died under police protection. The Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks died with his police guards in a terrible car accident. As journalist Douglas Murray explained: “Lars Vilks was a man and artist of enormous courage. He should never have been in this situation, and if other artists and others across Europe hadn’t been so cowardly then he never would have been”. Carsten Juste, who as editor of the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten published the cartoons on Muhammad in 2005, apologized and left journalism. Flemming Rose, the editor of the Jyllands Posten who commissioned the cartoons (the Taliban put a bounty on his head), resigned and published a book with the eloquent title The Tyranny of Silence. “The drama and the tragedy is that the only ones to win are the jihadists,” Rose told the Danish newspaper Weekendavisen. Kurt Westergaard, the cartoonist of the most famous of the Danish cartoons, passed away in his “bunker house,” where Islamists had tried to assassinate him. Molly Norris, a Seattle Post cartoonist, became a “ghost.” She changed her name and disappeared. Nothing is known about her after the FBI put her in the witness protection program. Geert Wilders is alive only because he is protected by a military unit of the Dutch army generally assigned to ensure the security of the embassy in Afghanistan. Wilders still lives in safe houses and must wear a bulletproof vest during televised debates. Stéphane Charbonnier, editor-in-chief of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, was murdered along with eight of his colleagues. Ayaan Hirsi Ali left the Netherlands and sought asylum in the United States, where she is under around-the-clock protection. Now there was the attempt to assassinate Salman Rushdie. “The lesson of this story is atrocious: Rushdie is alive, but the camp of the killers has not completely lost, it has even won a little”, wrote Etienne Gernelle, the editor of French weekly Le Point. British columnist Kenan Malik told the BBC that if Salman Rushdie’s critics “lost the battle”, they “won the war”. The Egyptian-German scholar Hamed Abdel-Samad just recalled his meeting with Rushdie: “‘So, you are the Egyptian Salman Rushdie everyone is talking about?’, Salman Rushdie said with a smile during our first and only meeting in Berlin three years ago. It was a celebration of the thirty-year anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall and coincided with the 30th anniversary of the fatwa issued by Ayatollah Khomeini against Rushdie. ‘Thirty years ago, there was a single Salman Rushdie in the world, today there is at least one Salman Rushdie in every Islamic country not to mention those in the western countries. That should please you’, I replied”. We do not even know they exist: our fearful conformist media never tell their amazing stories. They live among us in Paris, London, Oslo, Copenhagen, Berlin, Amsterdam, and all the other European capitals. They live according to a strict security protocol: they have to tell the police in advance what they will do during the day, who they will see and where they will go, and if any place is not considered safe, these captives are forced to change plans. Often, if there is a not a new threat, they change homes, and disappear for a while to be protected by anonymity. They are not “repentants of the Mafia”; mobsters turned into witnesses for the state prosecution. No, they are academics, activists, writers, journalists, and intellectuals. We are talking about more than a hundred personalities in Europe. Their “fault”? They criticized Islam. Their precautions to protect themselves are never too many. Rushdie had ceased to be protected for many years. A professor of Iranian origin and a critic of Islam, Afshin Ellian, works at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, where he is protected by bodyguards. On the second floor of the Law Department, where he teaches, Ellian can be reached through a corridor with electronic access and armored glass. The place looks more like a bank vault than a normal law department. In Denmark, Lars Hedegaard, director of the International Free Press Society, who miraculously survived an attack at his home, is under police protection. An assassin dressed as a postman came to Hedegaard’s front door in Copenhagen and shot at his head, missing him only narrowly. The Turkish writer Lale Gül is under protection for having denounced Koranic schools in the Netherlands. French journalist Zineb El Rhazoui has more bodyguards than many Macron ministers. “Zineb El Rhazoui must be killed to avenge the Prophet,” reads a fatwa. The new address of the Charlie Hebdo newspaper offices is secret, and it has six armored doors and a safe room that the journalists can enter in case of attack. The entire editorial office of Charlie Hebdo is now protected by 85 police officers. Former Charlie Hebdo director Philippe Val lives in a house with bulletproof windows, police officers, and an armored safe room where there is a special telephone line to call for help. Each Charlie Hebdo employee is always accompanied by a car with two policemen. If the need arises, another police motorcycle or armored car should arrive. Mina Ahadi, who founded the Council of Former Muslims in Germany, does not move without an escort and like the novelist Fatma Bläser, who was the victim of a forced marriage, is protected by the police. Turkish-born lawyer Syran Ates, in Berlin, is protected by six police officers. “She receives three thousand threats,” her lawyer said. When Can Dündar, the bravest Turkish journalist, who, as the director of the newspaper Cumhuriyet expressed solidarity with Charlie Hebdo, left Turkey for Germany, he would never have imagined that he would need the police protection. The biggest difference is that in Turkey, policemen searched his house looking for items to compromise him, while in Berlin they are guarding his home. “Critics of Islam must fear for their lives: death threats and attacks,” notes the German website Tichys Einblick. “Anyone who criticizes Islamism must expect to be violently attacked in this country and without anyone being offended,” said journalist Jan Aleksander Karon. “In Germany, it is increasingly dangerous to criticize Islam.” In Denmark, the editorial office of Jyllands Posten today resembles a military bunker. With a razor wire barrier, bars, metal plates, and cameras that surround the newspaper for a kilometer, the office is now protected by the same mechanism as river locks. A door opens, a car enters, the door closes, and the one opposite opens. Journalists enter one at a time, typing in a personal code (a measure that did not protect Charlie Hebdo reporters). The Jyllands Posten cartoonists have escaped numerous attacks, including at home. Even after the January 7, 2015 massacre in Paris at the Charlie Hebdo office, which was targeted partly because it had republished the Danish Mohammed cartoons, Jyllands-Posten announced that, out of fear, it would not republish its own cartoons, saying: “We have lived with the fear of a terrorist attack for nine years, and yes, that is the explanation why we do not reprint the cartoons, whether it be our own or Charlie Hebdo’s. We are also aware that we therefore bow to violence and intimidation.” Also under protection is the French-Algerian journalist Mohammed Sifaoui. His photograph and name are published on jihadist websites next to the word “apostate”. Many people under protection are women, such as Marika Bret, a Charlie Hebdo employee who was “exfiltrated” from home, and the French television presenter originally from Turkey, Claire Koc. Or the journalist Ophélie Meunier, the reporter from Zone Interdite who reported on the Islamization of Roubaix in prime time with the French politician Amine Elbahi, of the Républicains Party, who received threats of beheading. Threats and intimidation demonstrate the tenacity of the journalistic work done by these courageous people. They demonstrate a commitment to show the Islamization by force and terror of sectors of French society, while the Islamists answer them: Do you disagree with me? Do you criticize me? I will kill you, slit your throat, behead you. Meanwhile, the states and institutions, which find themselves trying to protect dozens of people, prove to be paper tigers. Terrorism works. Nobody wants to live between two cops or see his name on the internet. Meanwhile, the journalistic class goes looking somewhere less hazardous. The French state has to protect simple teachers such as Fatiha Agag-Boudjahlat, who reproached some students for not respecting the minute of silence during the homage to Samuel Paty, a high school teacher who was beheaded by an Islamist. Imams such as Hassen Chalghoumi are included in “Uclat 2”, the protection program enjoyed by the ambassadors of the United States and Israel in Paris. Chalghoumi, protagonist of many battles in favor of the French Republic and against Islamic fundamentalists, told BFMTV that he has not slept more than three nights in the same place and that he wears a bulletproof vest during prayer: “I never talk about it, but I have been wearing it for years. I take care of my life. I have responsibilities towards my family and myself. I continue to fight at a very high price. I cannot be at my mosque every day, it is impossible”. Professor Didier Lemaire recounted his last visit to Trappes for a TV documentary: “I was only allowed a five-minute filming in front of the police station, surrounded by a dozen officers. The rest of the time I had to stay hidden in the car. One of the policemen told me: ‘If they bring out the Kalashnikovs, we have nothing to answer with, so we won’t stay long.’ The reporter wanted me to say a few words in front of the school, but the police refused for security reasons. I was allowed to pass by without stopping. I was escorted to a hotel, whose entrance was guarded by four police officers, to conduct the interview”. “Give us his head,” Islamists shouted outside a British school in Batley. They wanted to murder a teacher whose name we do not even know and who was forced to leave the school after heavy death threats. What was he guilty of? Having shown in class some of the Muhammad cartoons during a lesson on freedom of expression. He now lives in a safe house with his wife and children out of fear of being killed. The threat is deemed so serious that not even the family’s relatives know where they live. “The windows of the house where the teacher lived for more than eight years are covered with white sheets.” https://rairfoundation.com/muslims-publish-westerner-kill-list-targets-have-disappeared-been-eliminated-or-live-under-protection/ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truthblast Posted August 26, 2022 Author Share Posted August 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Macnamara said: Muslims Publish Westerner Kill List: Targets Have Disappeared, Been Eliminated or Live Under Protection Amy Mek August 25, 2022 “Threats and intimidation demonstrate the tenacity of the journalistic work done by these courageous people.” Islamic extremists in 2012 published a terrifying “most wanted list,” like those of the FBI. Title: “Yes, we can. A bullet a day keeps the infidel away…” What happened to the faces and names on that list? They have been killed, left the public arena to protect themselves, or died under police protection. The Swedish cartoonist Lars Vilks died with his police guards in a terrible car accident. As journalist Douglas Murray explained: “Lars Vilks was a man and artist of enormous courage. He should never have been in this situation, and if other artists and others across Europe hadn’t been so cowardly then he never would have been”. Carsten Juste, who as editor of the Danish newspaper Jyllands Posten published the cartoons on Muhammad in 2005, apologized and left journalism. Flemming Rose, the editor of the Jyllands Posten who commissioned the cartoons (the Taliban put a bounty on his head), resigned and published a book with the eloquent title The Tyranny of Silence. “The drama and the tragedy is that the only ones to win are the jihadists,” Rose told the Danish newspaper Weekendavisen. Kurt Westergaard, the cartoonist of the most famous of the Danish cartoons, passed away in his “bunker house,” where Islamists had tried to assassinate him. Molly Norris, a Seattle Post cartoonist, became a “ghost.” She changed her name and disappeared. Nothing is known about her after the FBI put her in the witness protection program. Geert Wilders is alive only because he is protected by a military unit of the Dutch army generally assigned to ensure the security of the embassy in Afghanistan. Wilders still lives in safe houses and must wear a bulletproof vest during televised debates. Stéphane Charbonnier, editor-in-chief of the French satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo, was murdered along with eight of his colleagues. Ayaan Hirsi Ali left the Netherlands and sought asylum in the United States, where she is under around-the-clock protection. Now there was the attempt to assassinate Salman Rushdie. “The lesson of this story is atrocious: Rushdie is alive, but the camp of the killers has not completely lost, it has even won a little”, wrote Etienne Gernelle, the editor of French weekly Le Point. British columnist Kenan Malik told the BBC that if Salman Rushdie’s critics “lost the battle”, they “won the war”. The Egyptian-German scholar Hamed Abdel-Samad just recalled his meeting with Rushdie: “‘So, you are the Egyptian Salman Rushdie everyone is talking about?’, Salman Rushdie said with a smile during our first and only meeting in Berlin three years ago. It was a celebration of the thirty-year anniversary of the fall of the Berlin Wall and coincided with the 30th anniversary of the fatwa issued by Ayatollah Khomeini against Rushdie. ‘Thirty years ago, there was a single Salman Rushdie in the world, today there is at least one Salman Rushdie in every Islamic country not to mention those in the western countries. That should please you’, I replied”. We do not even know they exist: our fearful conformist media never tell their amazing stories. They live among us in Paris, London, Oslo, Copenhagen, Berlin, Amsterdam, and all the other European capitals. They live according to a strict security protocol: they have to tell the police in advance what they will do during the day, who they will see and where they will go, and if any place is not considered safe, these captives are forced to change plans. Often, if there is a not a new threat, they change homes, and disappear for a while to be protected by anonymity. They are not “repentants of the Mafia”; mobsters turned into witnesses for the state prosecution. No, they are academics, activists, writers, journalists, and intellectuals. We are talking about more than a hundred personalities in Europe. Their “fault”? They criticized Islam. Their precautions to protect themselves are never too many. Rushdie had ceased to be protected for many years. A professor of Iranian origin and a critic of Islam, Afshin Ellian, works at the University of Utrecht in the Netherlands, where he is protected by bodyguards. On the second floor of the Law Department, where he teaches, Ellian can be reached through a corridor with electronic access and armored glass. The place looks more like a bank vault than a normal law department. In Denmark, Lars Hedegaard, director of the International Free Press Society, who miraculously survived an attack at his home, is under police protection. An assassin dressed as a postman came to Hedegaard’s front door in Copenhagen and shot at his head, missing him only narrowly. The Turkish writer Lale Gül is under protection for having denounced Koranic schools in the Netherlands. French journalist Zineb El Rhazoui has more bodyguards than many Macron ministers. “Zineb El Rhazoui must be killed to avenge the Prophet,” reads a fatwa. The new address of the Charlie Hebdo newspaper offices is secret, and it has six armored doors and a safe room that the journalists can enter in case of attack. The entire editorial office of Charlie Hebdo is now protected by 85 police officers. Former Charlie Hebdo director Philippe Val lives in a house with bulletproof windows, police officers, and an armored safe room where there is a special telephone line to call for help. Each Charlie Hebdo employee is always accompanied by a car with two policemen. If the need arises, another police motorcycle or armored car should arrive. Mina Ahadi, who founded the Council of Former Muslims in Germany, does not move without an escort and like the novelist Fatma Bläser, who was the victim of a forced marriage, is protected by the police. Turkish-born lawyer Syran Ates, in Berlin, is protected by six police officers. “She receives three thousand threats,” her lawyer said. When Can Dündar, the bravest Turkish journalist, who, as the director of the newspaper Cumhuriyet expressed solidarity with Charlie Hebdo, left Turkey for Germany, he would never have imagined that he would need the police protection. The biggest difference is that in Turkey, policemen searched his house looking for items to compromise him, while in Berlin they are guarding his home. “Critics of Islam must fear for their lives: death threats and attacks,” notes the German website Tichys Einblick. “Anyone who criticizes Islamism must expect to be violently attacked in this country and without anyone being offended,” said journalist Jan Aleksander Karon. “In Germany, it is increasingly dangerous to criticize Islam.” In Denmark, the editorial office of Jyllands Posten today resembles a military bunker. With a razor wire barrier, bars, metal plates, and cameras that surround the newspaper for a kilometer, the office is now protected by the same mechanism as river locks. A door opens, a car enters, the door closes, and the one opposite opens. Journalists enter one at a time, typing in a personal code (a measure that did not protect Charlie Hebdo reporters). The Jyllands Posten cartoonists have escaped numerous attacks, including at home. Even after the January 7, 2015 massacre in Paris at the Charlie Hebdo office, which was targeted partly because it had republished the Danish Mohammed cartoons, Jyllands-Posten announced that, out of fear, it would not republish its own cartoons, saying: “We have lived with the fear of a terrorist attack for nine years, and yes, that is the explanation why we do not reprint the cartoons, whether it be our own or Charlie Hebdo’s. We are also aware that we therefore bow to violence and intimidation.” Also under protection is the French-Algerian journalist Mohammed Sifaoui. His photograph and name are published on jihadist websites next to the word “apostate”. Many people under protection are women, such as Marika Bret, a Charlie Hebdo employee who was “exfiltrated” from home, and the French television presenter originally from Turkey, Claire Koc. Or the journalist Ophélie Meunier, the reporter from Zone Interdite who reported on the Islamization of Roubaix in prime time with the French politician Amine Elbahi, of the Républicains Party, who received threats of beheading. Threats and intimidation demonstrate the tenacity of the journalistic work done by these courageous people. They demonstrate a commitment to show the Islamization by force and terror of sectors of French society, while the Islamists answer them: Do you disagree with me? Do you criticize me? I will kill you, slit your throat, behead you. Meanwhile, the states and institutions, which find themselves trying to protect dozens of people, prove to be paper tigers. Terrorism works. Nobody wants to live between two cops or see his name on the internet. Meanwhile, the journalistic class goes looking somewhere less hazardous. The French state has to protect simple teachers such as Fatiha Agag-Boudjahlat, who reproached some students for not respecting the minute of silence during the homage to Samuel Paty, a high school teacher who was beheaded by an Islamist. Imams such as Hassen Chalghoumi are included in “Uclat 2”, the protection program enjoyed by the ambassadors of the United States and Israel in Paris. Chalghoumi, protagonist of many battles in favor of the French Republic and against Islamic fundamentalists, told BFMTV that he has not slept more than three nights in the same place and that he wears a bulletproof vest during prayer: “I never talk about it, but I have been wearing it for years. I take care of my life. I have responsibilities towards my family and myself. I continue to fight at a very high price. I cannot be at my mosque every day, it is impossible”. Professor Didier Lemaire recounted his last visit to Trappes for a TV documentary: “I was only allowed a five-minute filming in front of the police station, surrounded by a dozen officers. The rest of the time I had to stay hidden in the car. One of the policemen told me: ‘If they bring out the Kalashnikovs, we have nothing to answer with, so we won’t stay long.’ The reporter wanted me to say a few words in front of the school, but the police refused for security reasons. I was allowed to pass by without stopping. I was escorted to a hotel, whose entrance was guarded by four police officers, to conduct the interview”. “Give us his head,” Islamists shouted outside a British school in Batley. They wanted to murder a teacher whose name we do not even know and who was forced to leave the school after heavy death threats. What was he guilty of? Having shown in class some of the Muhammad cartoons during a lesson on freedom of expression. He now lives in a safe house with his wife and children out of fear of being killed. The threat is deemed so serious that not even the family’s relatives know where they live. “The windows of the house where the teacher lived for more than eight years are covered with white sheets.” https://rairfoundation.com/muslims-publish-westerner-kill-list-targets-have-disappeared-been-eliminated-or-live-under-protection/ Mac, as someone who knows the Middle East I can tell you: 1) Western intelligence services have been working dilligently for decades to prevent Muslim people in the ME from becoming more modern, more educated, more broadly accepting and more secular. A real "keep them poor, keep them ignorant, keep them fundamentalist" strategy has been in place for decades. 2) Most countries in the ME are currently under de facto Western control - the Govt has to do what the West tells them "or bad things happen". 3) Many fundamentalist Islamic movements and groups in the ME were covertly bankrolled by Western powers during the Cold War, including the Jihadi training schools 4) Western Intelligence knows damn well who the dangerous Jihadis in France, Germany, Sweden et cetera are and could round them up at any time. Anyone who visits a fundamentalist site even once goes on the watchlist. Anyone who frequents a Mosque, anyone who downloads a Koran learning app also. 5) Every now and then, someone deliberately PROVOKES THE SHIT out of Muslims who don't know any better, and the whole "Fatwa Dance" begins 6) Keeping religious-cultural tensions and distrust between Christians and Muslims HIGH is absolutely necessary to control the Middle East. 7) Both sides get a convenient EVER-ENEMY who can always be used to manipulate both Western populations and Eastern populations. 8) The protocol is that EAST and WEST must remain in a constant state of DISTRUST and INCOMPATIBILITY and NON-UNDERSTANDING 9) It is the EASTERN side of the equation that was most SOCIALLY ENGINEERED to achieve this - Govts across the ME push a very strange interpretation of Islam which DOES NOT in fact follow the Koran. 10) Most Muslims are NOT educated enough to be able to tell that what they are taught is a strange CONSTRUCT built on top of their original Religion. That construct came out of PLANNING OFFICES, not their actual Book. 11) It would actually be quite easy to bring East and West closer together in spirit, but that would run CONTRARY to decades of ME Realpolitik. Nobody has ever lifted a finger to raise the people of the Middle East to the higher education level common in the West. Nobody has ever allowed the people of the ME to advance in science, technology and similar. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) By their fruits we can know them. From the beginning: "If at first you don't succeed, try trying again..." (?) Looks alot like Bolshevism to me. Same nonsense and absurdities passed off as some kind of brilliance (all nonsense and absurdities are the same). 2+2=5 Muslims believe this world is "Divine Creation", "Created By GOD", don't they? Rome hijacked and corrupted the teachings of The Truth(Christ), but It's still accessible to individuals in/of the activating words and Spirit, which anti-Christ comprehends not, but it knows they are a threat to it's power and existence(which is actually a fictional governing principle). What does he mean by; "non-human force"? Obviously it has a derogatory context or implication...he has stated it's nature that way. What could it be but artificial? A false projection of consciousness? Of Genuine Importance Edited August 27, 2022 by novymir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
novymir Posted August 27, 2022 Share Posted August 27, 2022 (edited) Fvck'em all Same sh-t, different clothes, and different language(spells). It all stinks. Who-what co-ordinates these anti-Christ attacks(any attack is that)? The imposter "god" of this fake world. It plays good-cop/bad-cop....white and black...2-faced hypocrite. "Controlled opposition". Edited August 27, 2022 by novymir 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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