Reincarnation is a Trap

[Origin]

3 hours ago, loady said:

 

ofcourse you are connected to the illusions of existence , afterall you are on davidicke, or do you think your free, comeon mate...

It is not about whether I am free. It's about letting go. Something can become present here when it comes to important decisions. That is why I have to study it from two perspectives. The so-called truth from Humans and from the other side. And now guess which side I will choose..  

[Tinfoil Hat]

6 hours ago, loady said:

 

prices are heavily overprised, matt never charged that high for his books. you can find his books cheap on https://www.lulu.com/en/en/shop/matthew-delooze/is-it-me-for-a-moment-breaking-the-serpents-spell/ebook/product-14m8797k.html?page=1&pageSize=4

 

matt has put copyright on most of his content, all it takes is for someone to change a word here and there in his articles or books for the articles and books to be hijacked, by doing so they can easily represent the force that enslaves us instead. 

 

it was never my intention to post links to his books  but i felt i had to, becuse you posted a link to amazon where his stuff is higly overpriced matt would never approve of those prices. so i just want to make that perfectely clear.

 

Your link is an E book - mine was audiobooks so the price comparison isn't like for like. However, my post wasn't to promote these books. Personally, I don't care for Delooze. It was in answer to people who had never heard of him.

[BornFreeNowAgain]

15 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Why has this topic descended into a bickering fest of who is right?

In truth, we al have our belief systems. Some of those may have been held for very long periods of time.The best we can do is remain flexible when new info comes in that may change that viewpoint and accept change as a natural progression. My belief system now is completely different to 2 years ago, for example.

Indeed. That feeling when you go to the forum and see a thread has increased by many pages in a short period. The optimist always thinks 'maybe there is some really great new info', and the realist says from somewhere in the background "you idealist, have you learnt nothing about forums, you know it is just a troll out of control or bickering'. The realist is always right these days. 

[Bombadil]

Lets get back on topic everyone. This is a really interesting thread. Don't spoil it

[loady]

4 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

Your link is an E book - mine was audiobooks so the price comparison isn't like for like. However, my post wasn't to promote these books. Personally, I don't care for Delooze. It was in answer to people who had never heard of him.

youre right that the price isnt like for like, that audiobook hasnt anything to do with matthew delooze  mate, he  is using matthew without being authorised to do so. its not a work of matthew delooze, but you allso linked to his books mate, for example the price of reasons to believe you are enslaved by the serpent is 60 dollars + and the price for is it me... is 102 dollars , those are insane prices. the hard copy of respective titles on in hardpapper on  lulu  goes for 11 and 16 dollars. and they are new instead of used,

 

anyways you propably wanted to share an innocent link, so people can have access to his work just like you said so all is good mate

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by loady

[loady]

6 hours ago, Origin said:

It is not about whether I am free. It's about letting go. Something can become present here when it comes to important decisions. That is why I have to study it from two perspectives. The so-called truth from Humans and from the other side. And now guess which side I will choose..  

 

  have you pondered that if this force wanted you to be level terms with  it , then it wouldnt have you suffer like this to begin with, hey maybe this force like to make up bullshit excuses about purposes and stuff so people can stay on earth fetching energy for its own parasitic ends and maybe it likes deceiving  people into believing just like you that mankind has no power whilst using the power of mankind to do so ,hey mabye this force has gotten you to think of things backwards , maybe its the other way around , being that it is humans that empower it instead of the reverse, doesnt matter if you study something from whatever side becuse we could only study  something  with our own level of awareness.

 

 

[RobinJ]

2 hours ago, loady said:

 

  have you pondered that if this force wanted you to be level terms with  it , then it wouldnt have you suffer like this to begin with, hey maybe this force like to make up bullshit excuses about purposes and stuff so people can stay on earth fetching energy for its own parasitic ends and maybe it likes deceiving  people into believing just like you that mankind has no power whilst using the power of mankind to do so ,hey mabye this force has gotten you to think of things backwards , maybe its the other way around , being that it is humans that empower it instead of the reverse, doesnt matter if you study something from whatever side becuse we could only study  something  with our own level of awareness.

 

 

 

You seem like you are just here to cause an argument or to be angry at everyone.

 

It's not about a 'force we want to be level with'. We are already part of 'the force,' as you put it. Its just that some dont see that yet or know how to access it. 

 

UNIVERSE: 

"the whole world, cosmos, the totality of existing things," from Old French univers (12c.), from Latin universum "all things, everybody, all people, the whole world," noun use of neuter of adjective universus "all together, all in one, whole, entire, relating to all," literally "turned into one," from unus "one" (from PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique")

 

[Origin]

3 hours ago, loady said:

 

  have you pondered that if this force wanted you to be level terms with  it , then it wouldnt have you suffer like this to begin with, hey maybe this force like to make up bullshit excuses about purposes and stuff so people can stay on earth fetching energy for its own parasitic ends and maybe it likes deceiving  people into believing just like you that mankind has no power whilst using the power of mankind to do so ,hey mabye this force has gotten you to think of things backwards , maybe its the other way around , being that it is humans that empower it instead of the reverse, doesnt matter if you study something from whatever side becuse we could only study  something  with our own level of awareness.

 

 

Your so-called force demonstrated for me a complex educational routine. An alternative to human experience and knowledge. I was not forced into anything. And I don't care the least what dream fantasies humans have. None of this will matter when the transition takes place. Humans are like infants who want to get their way. And everything is possible on the playground. It is wise to abandon the playground at some point. And I notice more and more that the playground was not as interesting as I thought.

[kj35]

Great topic. I mentioned this before on here but it fits here too. A very dear, clever friend of mine had a cardiac arrest. He died and was revived spending the next 12 months in a coma. When he woke up he could describe what he saw and lived through there vividly. He said the closest explanation and description of his experience could be found in Eben Alexander's book " A proof of heaven".

 

Now obviously many of us here think that what he experienced was another part of the matrix constructed reality. But for him the experience was so positive he no longer feared death, which has now sadly claimed him, finally.

Edited June 22, 2022 by kj35

[loady]

2 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

You seem like you are just here to cause an argument or to be angry at everyone.

 

It's not about a 'force we want to be level with'. We are already part of 'the force,' as you put it. Its just that some dont see that yet or know how to access it. 

 

UNIVERSE: 

"the whole world, cosmos, the totality of existing things," from Old French univers (12c.), from Latin universum "all things, everybody, all people, the whole world," noun use of neuter of adjective universus "all together, all in one, whole, entire, relating to all," literally "turned into one," from unus "one" (from PIE root *oi-no- "one, unique")

 

 

ofcourse im angry Robin, anger is the fuel that propell my journey in the right direction , it saddens me how people like to live happy as pigshit in this falsely percieved bliss where 95% procent of thier energy are sucked out of them, yes , robin i wrote about a cosmos that has been superimposed and embedded unto the collective subconsiousness ,namely this matrix prison universe that some of you seem to call real or life. ive always said that we are allknowing and all being  , but none of that matter if we are not willing to break the spell that has us living on par of dog shit (me included) 

Edited June 22, 2022 by loady

[loady]

30 minutes ago, Origin said:

Your so-called force demonstrated for me a complex educational routine. An alternative to human experience and knowledge. I was not forced into anything. And I don't care the least what dream fantasies humans have. None of this will matter when the transition takes place. Humans are like infants who want to get their way. And everything is possible on the playground. It is wise to abandon the playground at some point. And I notice more and more that the playground was not as interesting as I thought.

 

maybe you should ask it why it left you not knowing your arse from elbow(like me) wandering lost on a davidickeforum, and why it couldnt spare you all this bullshit "you have to learn and progress "retoric.. but some slaves want to be slaves, so ill just leave it at that. thank you for the debatte.

[novymir]

Infinite Love Is The Only Truth.     Anything else is bullshit, and a denial/rejection of Reality. 

So, "here" we are.

[Origin]

7 minutes ago, loady said:

 

maybe you should ask it why it left you not knowing your arse from elbow(like me) wandering lost on a davidickeforum, and why it couldnt spare you all this bullshit "you have to learn and progress "retoric.. but some slaves want to be slaves, so ill just leave it at that. thank you for the debatte.

You are not able to judge if I am lost. I saw a second truth to make a choice. In order to differentiate. I do not depend on religions, or youtube. I'm only here because of two keywords. Holographic universe. I'm not here to adapt dogmas..

[loady]

2 minutes ago, Origin said:

You are not able to judge if I am lost. I saw a second truth to make a choice. In order to differentiate. I do not depend on religions, or youtube. I'm only here because of two keywords. Holographic universe. I'm not here to adapt dogmas..

 

 

if you want my honest opinion i think you are more than lost. but okay good luck to you.

[Origin]

8 minutes ago, loady said:

 

 

if you want my honest opinion i think you are more than lost. but okay good luck to you.

I have no problem getting lost as a human being. It wasn't that interesting. By that I mean human existence.

Edited June 22, 2022 by Origin

[Morpheus]

1 hour ago, kj35 said:

Great topic. I mentioned this before on here but it fits here too. A very dear, clever friend of mine had a cardiac arrest. He died and was revived spending the next 12 months in a coma. When he woke up he could describe what he saw and lived through there vividly. He said the closest explanation and description of his experience could be found in Eben Alexander's book " A proof of heaven".

 

Now obviously many of us here think that what he experienced was another part of the matrix constructed reality. But for him the experience was so positive he no longer feared death, which has now sadly claimed him, finally.

So sorry to hear about your friend KJ, but thanks for sharing their experience. Not sure if you have anymore detail than what was described, I'm wondering if they saw the light which appears to be the common theme with NDE's, was that the case? 

 

I'm glad your friend found peace in his experience which lead them to not fear death. I think we can all take some solace from that fact that we have nothing to fear wherever the road leads us next. 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Morpheus

[novymir]

51 minutes ago, loady said:

 

ofcourse im angry Robin, anger is the fuel that propell my journey in the right direction , it saddens me how people like to live happy as pigshit in this falsely percieved bliss where 95% procent of thier energy are sucked out of them, yes , robin i wrote about a cosmos that has been superimposed and embedded unto the collective subconsiousness ,namely this matrix prison universe that some of you seem to call real or life. ive always said that we are allknowing and all being  , but none of that matter if we are not willing to break the spell that has us living on par of dog shit (me included) 

Try to break things down to principles and generalities, mere ideas. And keep them there, otherwise they are given a life and complexity they need not have, and will operate in ways more difficult to overcome. The mind will conjure up what we give validity, legitimacy, "reality" to. It's good to flush out the garbage operating in the background, in the unconscious, but it's not so good to give it validity, fear of these artificial, illegitimate consequences, ideas contrary to Truth, is a set up by the ego, whereby one can be faced with their own worst nightmare. Needlessly.

It's all about "ego" immortality, the fake, the fraud, cancerous consciousness--continuing this dream of delusion.

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by novymir

[Tinfoil Hat]

6 hours ago, loady said:

youre right that the price isnt like for like, that audiobook hasnt anything to do with matthew delooze  mate, he  is using matthew without being authorised to do so. its not a work of matthew delooze, but you allso linked to his books mate, for example the price of reasons to believe you are enslaved by the serpent is 60 dollars + and the price for is it me... is 102 dollars , those are insane prices. the hard copy of respective titles on in hardpapper on  lulu  goes for 11 and 16 dollars. and they are new instead of used,

 

anyways you propably wanted to share an innocent link, so people can have access to his work just like you said so all is good mate

 

 

That's confused me. What I actually linked to was a page of Delooze's audiobooks  (plural) and it was a UK site which didn't quote the prices in currency - it showed each at 1 credit. The cost of a credit is £7.99 in the UK which I know becuase I have an audiobook account.

 

But when I have just tried to open the link again it won't open at all now. *Shrugs* - Edit, ignore, it will open again now.

 

 

 

Edited June 22, 2022 by Tinfoil Hat

[TheConsultant]

From the perspective of 'the bloodlines' who pass power down in families they absolutely know reincarnation is real, they also know that as energy cannot be created nor destroyed they siphon and ultimately control people further through that, you are a vessel of energy to them. If only they knew how to harness their own without stealing it we wouldn't be in this situation.

Really interesting thread.

[kj35]

25 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

So sorry to hear about your friend KJ, but thanks for sharing their experience. Not sure if you have anymore detail than what was described, I'm wondering if they saw the light which appears to be the common theme with NDE's, was that the case? 

 

I'm glad your friend found peace in his experience which lead them to not fear death. I think we can all take some solace from that fact that we have nothing to fear wherever the road leads us next. 

I'm still deciding whether to share what he experienced as it may doxx me to others. What I will do is revisit the Eben Alexander book and pull out excerpts from that that resemble it closely enough xx

[Tinfoil Hat]

1 hour ago, kj35 said:

Great topic. I mentioned this before on here but it fits here too. A very dear, clever friend of mine had a cardiac arrest. He died and was revived spending the next 12 months in a coma. When he woke up he could describe what he saw and lived through there vividly. He said the closest explanation and description of his experience could be found in Eben Alexander's book " A proof of heaven".

 

Now obviously many of us here think that what he experienced was another part of the matrix constructed reality. But for him the experience was so positive he no longer feared death, which has now sadly claimed him, finally.

 

 

Thank you for this, I will look out for a copy of that book.

[kj35]

Excerpts from Proof of heaven Eben Alexander that resemble my friend's description.  Especially the end part.

 

"Darkness, but a visible darkness—like being submerged in mud yet also being able to see through it. Or maybe dirty Jell-O describes it better. Transparent, but in a bleary, blurry, claustrophobic, suffocating kind of way. Consciousness, but consciousness without memory or identity—like a dream where you know what’s going on around you, but have no real idea of who, or what, you are.

Sound, too: a deep, rhythmic pounding, distant yet strong, so that each pulse of it goes right through you. Like a heartbeat? A little, but darker, more mechanical—like the sound of metal against metal, as if a giant, subterranean blacksmith is pounding an anvil somewhere off in the distance: pounding it so hard that the sound vibrates through the earth, or the mud, or wherever it is that you are. I didn’t have a body—not one that I was aware of anyway. I was simply … there, in this place of pulsing, pounding darkness. At the time, I might have called it “primordial.” But at the time it was going on, I didn’t know this word. In fact, I didn’t know any words at all. The words used here registered much later, when, back in the world, I was writing down my recollections. Language, emotion, logic: these were all gone, as if I had regressed back to some state of being from the very beginnings of life, as far back, perhaps, as the primitive bacteria that, unbeknownst to me, had taken over my brain and shut it down. How long did I reside in this world? I have no idea. When you go to a place where there’s no sense of time as we experience it in the ordinary world, accurately describing the way it feels is next to impossible. When it was happening, when I was there, I felt like I (whatever “I” was) had always been there and would always continue to be.

Something had appeared in the darkness. Turning slowly, it radiated fine filaments of white-gold light, and as it did so the darkness around me began to splinter and break apart. Then I heard a new sound: a living sound, like the richest, most complex, most beautiful piece of music you’ve ever heard. Growing in volume as a pure white light descended, it obliterated the monotonous mechanical pounding that, seemingly for eons, had been my only company up until then. The light got closer and closer, spinning around and around and generating those filaments of pure white light that I now saw were tinged, here and there, with hints of gold. Then, at the very center of the light, something else appeared. I focused my awareness, hard, trying to figure out what it was. An opening. I was no longer looking at the slowly spinning light at all, but through it. The moment I understood this, I began to move up. Fast. There was a whooshing sound, and in a flash I went through the opening and found myself in a completely new world. The strangest, most beautiful world I’d ever seen. Brilliant, vibrant, ecstatic, stunning … I could heap on one adjective after another to describe what this world looked and felt like, but they’d all fall short. I felt like I was being born. Not reborn, or born again. Just … born. Below me there was countryside. It was green, lush, and earthlike. It was earth … but at the same time it wasn’t. It was like when your parents take you back to a place where you spent some years as a very young child. You don’t know the place. Or at least you think you don’t. But as you look around, something pulls at you, and you realize that a part of yourself—a part way, deep down—does remember the place after all, and is rejoicing at being back there again. I was flying, passing over trees and fields, streams and waterfalls, and here and there, people. There were children, too, laughing and playing. The people sang and danced around in circles, and sometimes I’d see a dog, running and jumping among them, as full of joy as the people were."

[zarkov]

Interesting topic - thanks.

 

 

Maybe comprehending life more fully will unearth a greater understanding of what it is not, along this journey.

 

[loady]

On 3/20/2022 at 4:39 AM, RobinJ said:

This is a reset for humanity. Its why all the dark ones are running around in a panic trying to harvest as much as possible, becaus ethey cannot survive without being parasites on us.

This time were will not be recycled, it is an end cycle. Some will ascend back to their origins and take some of the humanity with them to continue on higher dimensional existence. Some will remain to reseed the earth with greater beings that are more aware, loving and also on a higher plain. The rest will die off or be converted to AI.

All ancient history tells us this is what we can expect and that it has happened many times before. 

 

there are levels to this story Robin, an end of an age is also a new age - the end holds the beginning and the beginning holds the end. during an end of an age, independant inspectors come visit earth to see if it  runs right and also to offer their help to those who dont want to be in it anymore. in order to deflect this effort of the independant visitors  the serpent aimed to prove to these forces  that the prison is run in accordance with the free will of the people and that humans really want to stay prisoners. you could say that the prison  is represented by the matrix and the prisoners of "humans" and the warden of the reptilians. 2012 was a con trick to trick people into believing that they would ascend or alternatively  to instill the possiblity in us that the world could end thus creating fear and hope in us that the world wont end all while we were conned to focus on the specific sun worshipping date of 21 first december which is when the summer and wintersolstices occur in the northern and southern hemisphere respectively - aswell as to link up our focus and energy not only towards the winter and summerstolice  but also to an aztec sun stone - which were incorrectly also  promoted to refeer to the mayan calender , this was done on purpose to associate the global ritual and link it up in your subconsiousness  with an end of an age /beginng of an age  meaning - the aztec sun stone was  also promoted to link your subconsiousness to sacrifice of humans  to the sun god  and also to give energy  to the aztec sun stone which held symbolism that feed the entire  serpent cult from the bottom and up in the matrix food chain. secret rituals were performed on that date in pyramids and temples, humans were sacrificed then just as they did in ancient time , the heart (which represented the emotions, will and wishes of mankind  was cut of the person being sacrificed and held up in a ritual surrender offering to the sun god. 

 

this was explained with other words in a article by matthew delooze way back in 2012.

 

the reason that the ascension part  of the ritual was promoted  in the conspiracy movements was to lure people into believing that  they will connect to truth and ascend which was a mean to prevent the independant inspectors from helping people to escape this matrix. 

 

the mayan  end of an age / begining of an age  part of the ritual was to trick people into voting in the reptilians to rule us for  yet another age.

 

and the sacrifice part of the ritual revolving around the symbolism represented by the  aztec sun stone was there to represent mankinds sacrifice to the sun god/creators of the sun = reptilians

 

 

you cannot recieve help from the universe if you already believe that you are awake the universe will leave you in your percieved awake state - matthew delooze.

 

(due to  laws pertaining to free will)

 

it was all a global con trick were diffrent  symbolic ingridents were linked up together in our subconsiousness  so it could be baked into a very clever  cake of enslavement. 

 

funny i roamed all the forums way back and i have never ever heard anyone else talk or write  about this scam up to date. only matthew delooze can make a truthful mockery of the conspricay business, time and time again matthew delooze writes about unique stuff that is for the most part left entirely unsaid or unexamined by everyone else - just goes to show how dumbed down we are. 

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by loady

[RobinJ]

Well that was a very convoluted way of saying that you believe this is all a cycle and that we are just resetting the same cycle again. I personally don't believe that is the case. Yes, it may well be a cycle, but its and end not a continuum IMHO.

 

Perhaps you should try and seek more than this one Delooze persons perspective. Can't say Ive ever heard of him, but you constantly quote him like he is the only bastion of truth. In fact what you are doing is basing your belief system on a single opinion, which must have at some point resonated with you on some level because it motivated you to adopt it.

 

I prefer to keep nimble, keep learning and challenging both my own and others ideas as new information is revealed and to feel my way through this transition with the guides I am given and the information I am shown or led to.

 

By the way, if you are angry constantly then you cannot be as evolved as you like to think you are, no matter what knowledge you may think you have. Moving past anger ( = stage one of loss in psychology) should be a primary goal for any form of further enlightenment.