Reincarnation is a Trap

[JFK]

On 3/19/2022 at 8:29 PM, DaleP said:

It looks like JFK was recycled by the sound of it.

Let this be a lesson. You may be in the elites' circle, supposedly protected by the knowledge yet you don't get out.

Mind you, on the second thoughts......may be he didn't want to get out....some people are like that.

My ex-in-law said she wanted to comeback and I couldn't believe it but each to their own.

 

I'm alive and I do not intend to go through any of a "reincarnation trap" ever again!!!

[Campion]

17 hours ago, JFK said:

I'm alive and I do not intend to go through any of a "reincarnation trap" ever again!!!

  

The memory wipe is enough in itself to make me not want to go through it again (presumably I'm in a reincarnation now but don't remember what happened before). 

 

What do you think are the best ways to avoid it? 

[JFK]

On 4/27/2024 at 3:18 PM, Campion said:

  

The memory wipe is enough in itself to make me not want to go through it again (presumably I'm in a reincarnation now but don't remember what happened before). 

 

What do you think are the best ways to avoid it? 

Thank you for the question and here is an answer for you to maybe consider and accept if you feel it is worthwhile...

 

Being fully aware of what you have within yourself as awareness can get you where you belong to live beyond your human body. If you do consider NOT following the false white light before you part ways from your physical human body, you are able to possibly prevent the reincarnation trap so that it's off-limits to your consciousness. Think of you considering that you don't have to reincarnate anymore and you are able to find a alternate experience that you are ready for and there is not any illusion in the experience. There is able to be plenty of peace without a war on personal freedom and if you understand that it is like being your own trusted guide in all of now. Also as you are aware in your frequency range oneness can help keep you going without judgement. Oneness is harmony of love and much peace thus it is the unity that can open up limitless dimensions without the reptilian frequency. 

 

The human experience is not easy so do consider the best ways to permanently avoid any "soul traps". Keep records of your moments clean and try to understand yourself well and don't corrupt the records of the moments of any others. Question your thinking every once and awhile. You can wish to see the highest possible outcome and as long as you are not a shady character you'll be able to get  exactly where you resonate with to be at in your life after you part ways from your physical body. I was told that we are not to follow the false white light and to return to source. When you wish to return to source you get there is what I was told. To sum this up, as you evolve in the right direction, it gives you the idea of life without reincarnation.

[DaleP]

  

13 hours ago, Avoiceinthecrowd said:

This next video is a homage to Samsara presenting spectacular imagery and a score chosen by the producers of this clip to carry the scenes they selected, enjoy ;

 

 

After watching this and you still think you are in heaven.....good luck to you.

This is very well put together and as if not enough....it is pretty obvious to me. The only way is to become the Source and get out.

[DaleP]

 

[DaleP]

Interesting. But shouldn't you be doing the great work now rather than AFTER you die?

https://davidicke.com/2024/06/05/the-great-unknown-four-part-documentary-about-the-afterlife-starting-june-29th-on-ickonic/

[Nirity]

Hello. I think this story fits into this topic. I hope you like it and don't label me "crazy". So here it is: I know you have heard lots of stories like this one. I am one of those "died for a sometime" people. So, here it is. When I was 15-16 (I'm 43 right now) I was tipsy. We were at the seaside, singing by the fire, partying, you got the picture. People were telling me "Don't go over to the end of the ponton, you can be hurt". Ofc, I didn't listen. I wanted a quite place for a while. I have no idea how I slipped and fell. All was partying at the beach. There was numerous of fires there. People singing, playing guitars etc. And me alone - I fell into the sea. I suddenly sobered and started swimming, but the waves and the current were against me. I started to scream for help. They didn't hear me. When people managed to notice I was far beyond my strength and started to drown. I was losing conscience and going deep. Last thing I remember is someone managed to reach me, fighting the current and the waves, almost touching my fingertips. I gave up. The whole world faded. I went into oblivion. Darkness. I was just there, inside the darkness. Somehow "floating". I was questioning "Do I exist", "What am I, who am I, what is me, what is what, what, where, time, nothingness, bodiless, how do I think, why I think, how and why..." It all lasted for a really long time. Felt like eternity. Realizing "I am". Just that. All dark. I got bored. Desperate. I felt like I will be there forever and nothing, including me exists. Because - what I was - a nothing inside the nothing. It also took another eternity. Timeless. I was, idk what inside the dark. Just thinking. Painfully. Than I saw it. A little tiny spark. And I jus wanted to reach it. I started to float towards it. It was just standing there. And I floated and floated and floated. I realized the distance is still the same. Than it hit me "What is distance?" Than BAM. There were all over small shining dots. Heading somewhere. I asked myself "Was I blind, they are everywhere, just spotting, inside the darkness, which was around me... How I didn't notice them before". And it hit me again. Notice them how? I don't have something to see. I remembered some distant feeling of a tool, which helps to see. I can't describe what is to feel bodiless. I can't describe what was forgetting all the words and all the images, all the meanings. At this point I reinvented simply "eyes". With no physical existence. Can't describe it - I just started to See. And I saw it. A huge sorta vortex, with undescribable colors, where all of them were rotating with no stop. Just rotating there. Fast and same time slow. At one direction and same time all directions. Sparkling in different colors and same time blending into each other. Undescribable. But all of those had one center - pure light. The most eye burning light. Ofc it didn't burn me - I didn't have eyes, or even the idea of eyes at this point. All I had was "How I didn't sense this, how I felt lost, how I..." And I instantly went there. Distance doesn't matter. Time too. I was so far, so I instantly got inside. It was the most extreme peaceful sensation. The most right thing to do. The most beautiful place to be. The most... can't describe. But. Something started calling me. I was at such peace and such comfort. But. It was calling me. Me. And I got confused "Why me? What am me? What I should do". It didn't stop. So, I disturbed the (idk how to call it) and asked - "Am I welcomed here" - "Yes". "Can I stay here?" - "Yes". "If me (I don't know what is me) have troubles, to cause disturbance - will you answer and help me. Am I one?" - "Yes. Ask." And I started asking. Random. Whatever ever was in my mind. First was Why all the colors - are we numerous identies, what were we, how many lives each one had. All kind of questions, How roses sound. How stones smell. Everything. They just answered. They were so old. So many destinies. I felt like a billion years old too. They knew everything. And the center is God. So I saked a final question "If I step inside and hear what this voice have to say, can I go back?" - "Yes, always!" And I stepped. Just for a milesecond. Just to... Idk. It promised me experiences, knowledge to add, important missions to fulfill, treasures to find, blah, blah... I was going to return but it bribed me with "You forgot what you left behind, people who will miss you. You are important for other souls. You will fail them all..." It wishperedme things like that. From behind. Somehow from behind, without having a body. I asked many times - "Show yourself. Let me see you." But it only showed me the tunnel. The tunnel of light. Which will lead me to... I wasn't sure what. And I gave myself up at somepoint. I did a mistake. I asked the amazing thing one last time "If I just take a look inside the tunnel, can I come back?" - "Yes. Always. Nothing matters." Last question "How?" - "Just by will." And I went back. On earth. Wet, almost drowned. People around me crazy, Explaining how they pulled me out of water.  How I had no pulse, no breathing. How I was blue etc. No signs of life. Ofc ambulance came late. I spitted lots of seawater. Sobered up. Etc. Noone knows how long I was "dead". Or whatever. People think I'm insane. Imagination. I don't like to tell this story to most. Imagine the look of people's faces. Drunk lunatic speaking. Garbage, almost drowned and doesn't know what she speak off. I understand. But it felt insanely real. Took me long time. Years. To clear the memory and accept. There is something out there.

Edited June 12, 2024 by Nirity
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[RobinJ]

23 hours ago, Nirity said:

Hello. I think this story fits into this topic. I hope you like it and don't label me "crazy". So here it is: I know you have heard lots of stories like this one. I am one of those "died for a sometime" people. So, here it is. When I was 15-16 (I'm 43 right now) I was tipsy. We were at the seaside, singing by the fire, partying, you got the picture. People were telling me "Don't go over to the end of the ponton, you can be hurt". Ofc, I didn't listen. I wanted a quite place for a while. I have no idea how I slipped and fell. All was partying at the beach. There was numerous of fires there. People singing, playing guitars etc. And me alone - I fell into the sea. I suddenly sobered and started swimming, but the waves and the current were against me. I started to scream for help. They didn't hear me. When people managed to notice I was far beyond my strength and started to drown. I was losing conscience and going deep. Last thing I remember is someone managed to reach me, fighting the current and the waves, almost touching my fingertips. I gave up. The whole world faded. I went into oblivion. Darkness. I was just there, inside the darkness. Somehow "floating". I was questioning "Do I exist", "What am I, who am I, what is me, what is what, what, where, time, nothingness, bodiless, how do I think, why I think, how and why..." It all lasted for a really long time. Felt like eternity. Realizing "I am". Just that. All dark. I got bored. Desperate. I felt like I will be there forever and nothing, including me exists. Because - what I was - a nothing inside the nothing. It also took another eternity. Timeless. I was, idk what inside the dark. Just thinking. Painfully. Than I saw it. A little tiny spark. And I jus wanted to reach it. I started to float towards it. It was just standing there. And I floated and floated and floated. I realized the distance is still the same. Than it hit me "What is distance?" Than BAM. There were all over small shining dots. Heading somewhere. I asked myself "Was I blind, they are everywhere, just spotting, inside the darkness, which was around me... How I didn't notice them before". And it hit me again. Notice them how? I don't have something to see. I remembered some distant feeling of a tool, which helps to see. I can't describe what is to feel bodiless. I can't describe what was forgetting all the words and all the images, all the meanings. At this point I reinvented simply "eyes". With no physical existence. Can't describe it - I just started to See. And I saw it. A huge sorta vortex, with undescribable colors, where all of them were rotating with no stop. Just rotating there. Fast and same time slow. At one direction and same time all directions. Sparkling in different colors and same time blending into each other. Undescribable. But all of those had one center - pure light. The most eye burning light. Ofc it didn't burn me - I didn't have eyes, or even the idea of eyes at this point. All I had was "How I didn't sense this, how I felt lost, how I..." And I instantly went there. Distance doesn't matter. Time too. I was so far, so I instantly got inside. It was the most extreme peaceful sensation. The most right thing to do. The most beautiful place to be. The most... can't describe. But. Something started calling me. I was at such peace and such comfort. But. It was calling me. Me. And I got confused "Why me? What am me? What I should do". It didn't stop. So, I disturbed the (idk how to call it) and asked - "Am I welcomed here" - "Yes". "Can I stay here?" - "Yes". "If me (I don't know what is me) have troubles, to cause disturbance - will you answer and help me. Am I one?" - "Yes. Ask." And I started asking. Random. Whatever ever was in my mind. First was Why all the colors - are we numerous identies, what were we, how many lives each one had. All kind of questions, How roses sound. How stones smell. Everything. They just answered. They were so old. So many destinies. I felt like a billion years old too. They knew everything. And the center is God. So I saked a final question "If I step inside and hear what this voice have to say, can I go back?" - "Yes, always!" And I stepped. Just for a milesecond. Just to... Idk. It promised me experiences, knowledge to add, important missions to fulfill, treasures to find, blah, blah... I was going to return but it bribed me with "You forgot what you left behind, people who will miss you. You are important for other souls. You will fail them all..." It wishperedme things like that. From behind. Somehow from behind, without having a body. I asked many times - "Show yourself. Let me see you." But it only showed me the tunnel. The tunnel of light. Which will lead me to... I wasn't sure what. And I gave myself up at somepoint. I did a mistake. I asked the amazing thing one last time "If I just take a look inside the tunnel, can I come back?" - "Yes. Always. Nothing matters." Last question "How?" - "Just by will." And I went back. On earth. Wet, almost drowned. People around me crazy, Explaining how they pulled me out of water.  How I had no pulse, no breathing. How I was blue etc. No signs of life. Ofc ambulance came late. I spitted lots of seawater. Sobered up. Etc. Noone knows how long I was "dead". Or whatever. People think I'm insane. Imagination. I don't like to tell this story to most. Imagine the look of people's faces. Drunk lunatic speaking. Garbage, almost drowned and doesn't know what she speak off. I understand. But it felt insanely real. Took me long time. Years. To clear the memory and accept. There is something out there.

Interesting. I dont know if you are aware of the term for this experience, but if not, its called a "near death experience" or NDE for short. If you search on Youtube you will see hundreds of them. A good channel to check is Next Level Soul or the Jeff Mara podcast.

A question I have for you is; since this expereince what has changed in your life? 

An NDE is usually about your soul journey up to the point of your expereince and can be thought of as a push to get you back on your true life path.

Many folks feel a greater sense of purpose afterward. Never be frightened to talk about these things, you are not alone. :-)

Live your purpose, ignore all the silly naysayers.

[DaleP]

  

On 10/29/2022 at 3:36 PM, Tav said:

7.83 hz is the frequency of this earth prison. We carry that frequency because we were 'born/ assembled' within this frequency. The schuman resonance is the metric to measure how intact the prison walls are. A Galactic Wave is moving towards us---and affecting other planetary bodies---and the sun---and the magnetic field that Trapped us in this frequency is weakening. Our bodies are formed in this frequency. There is no way we can escape this frequency with the body intact.

What experiments some people are shown to do--or like the Matrix movie version of 'There is no Spoon'--is misleading. There is a material tangible (to us) reality created in the frequency of this prison realm. It is so strong that not even the Elites carrying alien DNA can escape it--they keep trying and fail. Because technology will not break the prison. Nor will wishful thinking. The only way out is to get rid of what got you in-Ego.

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

2 hours ago, DaleP said:

  

 

 

Has the frequency always been 7-83hz? Difficult to verify. 

[RobinJ]

That frequency has been changing lately due to all the extra solar and magnetic changes.

This is not a prison plant. The more you tell yourself negative things the more that will be your experience.

 

[Stan Evans]

I came to realise that the usual religions were man-made stories that could not withstand scrutiny or explain inconsistencies. But I managed to retain some belief in meaning, purpose and value in life based on certain situations that have been verified as true – reincarnation and psychic experiences. These convinced me that there was life after death, individual beings continued in some spirit form, specific relationships and feelings still existed after death, and beings could even return to physical life again. This was particularly important to me in regard to my dogs who have passed away. The possibility of them reincarnating offered me hope and belief in a value in life.

But David Icke has rubbished all that. Reincarnation is a trap and any form of heavan is an illusion. We are all here to be manipulated by evil beings who are controlled by other evil beings and our future world is a globalist tyranny which current horrors are leading us to.

Never mind, it is all a simulation anyway, so it is just make-believe and doesn't exist, and nothing really matters.

I now have no belief and no hope.

[Origin]

1 hour ago, Stan Evans said:

I came to realise that the usual religions were man-made stories that could not withstand scrutiny or explain inconsistencies

Never mind, it is all a simulation anyway, so it is just make-believe and doesn't exist, and nothing really matters.

I now have no belief and no hope.

You still matter. Belief is meaningless because no answers come from it. Being curious is more rewarding than hope. Nothing is as humans imagine it to be. The truth lies in between as everything is wishful thinking like the beautiful heaven. Or that a temporary limitation in the meat suit is already the final answer.
 

[RobinJ]

21 hours ago, Stan Evans said:

I came to realise that the usual religions were man-made stories that could not withstand scrutiny or explain inconsistencies. But I managed to retain some belief in meaning, purpose and value in life based on certain situations that have been verified as true – reincarnation and psychic experiences. These convinced me that there was life after death, individual beings continued in some spirit form, specific relationships and feelings still existed after death, and beings could even return to physical life again. This was particularly important to me in regard to my dogs who have passed away. The possibility of them reincarnating offered me hope and belief in a value in life.

But David Icke has rubbished all that. Reincarnation is a trap and any form of heavan is an illusion. We are all here to be manipulated by evil beings who are controlled by other evil beings and our future world is a globalist tyranny which current horrors are leading us to.

Never mind, it is all a simulation anyway, so it is just make-believe and doesn't exist, and nothing really matters.

I now have no belief and no hope.

I don't think Icke is right about everything, certainly not that reincarnation is a trap. We are simply here to learn and grow our soul.

I'm on the fence with the simulation thing currently. I feel its being pushed very hard right now and that makes me suspicious. Additionally, the concept takes our known power away again which is equally suspicious.

I don't think any one person has all the answers, rather that we all have a piece of the puzzle and only by joining together do we begin to see the larger picture.

Having no hope just means you somehow managed to get caught up in the negative hope along the way.

[Grumpy Grapes]

On 10/18/2024 at 3:31 PM, Stan Evans said:

I came to realise that the usual religions were man-made stories that could not withstand scrutiny or explain inconsistencies. But I managed to retain some belief in meaning, purpose and value in life based on certain situations that have been verified as true – reincarnation and psychic experiences. These convinced me that there was life after death, individual beings continued in some spirit form, specific relationships and feelings still existed after death, and beings could even return to physical life again. This was particularly important to me in regard to my dogs who have passed away. The possibility of them reincarnating offered me hope and belief in a value in life.

But David Icke has rubbished all that. Reincarnation is a trap and any form of heavan is an illusion. We are all here to be manipulated by evil beings who are controlled by other evil beings and our future world is a globalist tyranny which current horrors are leading us to.

Never mind, it is all a simulation anyway, so it is just make-believe and doesn't exist, and nothing really matters.

I now have no belief and no hope.

 

 

I believe in the afterlife, but not reincarnation. We each have one life here, then return to where we came from, and regain our true (or truer) identity, which is the silly sod who created this doomed-to-fail Frankenstein experiment in alternate living. But while here, we can still make the best of it and have some fun and purpose.

 

Edited October 19, 2024 by Grumpy Grapes

[RobinJ]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

 

I believe in the afterlife, but not reincarnation. We each have one life here, then return to where we came from, and regain our true (or truer) identity, which is the silly sod who created this doomed-to-fail Frankenstein experiment in alternate living. But while here, we can still make the best of it and have some fun and purpose.

 

I used to have that same disempowering ideology, but after my journey this time, I know its not true. Some of us may choose only one go around, but, many have been here hundreds of times.

[Grumpy Grapes]

1 hour ago, RobinJ said:

I used to have that same disempowering ideology, but after my journey this time, I know its not true. Some of us may choose only one go around, but, many have been here hundreds of times.

 

For me, this realm is like a shredding machine that shreds it's Creator into fractal mini versions of itself (us and all lifeforms).

 

Karma can be passed around, IMO, and memories too, which might explain why some people have 'past life memories'. 

 

[Grumpy Grapes]

16 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

For me, this realm is like a shredding machine that shreds it's Creator into fractal mini versions of itself (us and all lifeforms).

 

Karma can be passed around, IMO, and memories too, which might explain why some people have 'past life memories'. 

 

 

Regarding past life memories, is it possible to hook into other people's memories/experiences? 

 

This notion is explored in "Strange Days" (1995), a science fiction thriller directed by Kathryn Bigelow, from a screenplay by her ex-husband James Cameron ("The Teminator", etc) and by Jay Cocks, and based on a story by Cameron.

 

Set in Los Angeles on the last two days of 1999, the film follows Lenny Nero (Ralph Fiennes), a black marketeer of an electronic device (SQUID) that allows a user to experience the recorded memories and physical sensations of other people.

 

The film's dystopian society and use of "SQUID technology" has been compared to the "simstim" technology in William Gibson's seminal 1984 novel "Neuromancer".

 

"Simulated Stimulation." A digital representation of the thoughts and feelings of another person. One individual is fitted with a simstim rig that broadcasts their senses to another person, who then rides along in their brain and body, seeing and feeling everything they see and feel.

 

[Talorgan]

2 hours ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

Regarding past life memories, is it possible to hook into other people's memories/experiences? 

 

This notion is explored in "Strange Days" (1995), a science fiction thriller directed by Kathryn Bigelow, from a screenplay by her ex-husband James Cameron ("The Teminator", etc) and by Jay Cocks, and based on a story by Cameron.

 

Set in Los Angeles on the last two days of 1999, the film follows Lenny Nero (Ralph Fiennes), a black marketeer of an electronic device (SQUID) that allows a user to experience the recorded memories and physical sensations of other people.

 

The film's dystopian society and use of "SQUID technology" has been compared to the "simstim" technology in William Gibson's seminal 1984 novel "Neuromancer".

 

"Simulated Stimulation." A digital representation of the thoughts and feelings of another person. One individual is fitted with a simstim rig that broadcasts their senses to another person, who then rides along in their brain and body, seeing and feeling everything they see and feel.

 

Interestingly there might be an already existing form  of some very advanced memory in Akashic record or as David Icke called it in chapter on Plasma  in

"the Reveal ". as Plasma "Akashic records"

Perhaps the Kordylewski Clouds ( 2 huge plasma clouds  same distance  from Earth as moon)

also  written about by Robert Temple in "a new science of heaven" with enough information storage abilities for everything on Earth possible 

Could this also account for accounts of  life review by some advanced AI to then persuade souls sold as for their betterment / karmic learning to take another trip back to earth etc ?

Maybe?

It seems Plasma / dark matter is everywhere making up most of everything including bioplasma field in humans,so perhaps is tapped into by DNA antenna ,second sighted seers 

too

 

Edited October 20, 2024 by Talorgan

[RobinJ]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

Regarding past life memories, is it possible to hook into other people's memories/experiences? 

 

This notion is explored in "Strange Days" (1995), a science fiction thriller directed by Kathryn Bigelow, from a screenplay by her ex-husband James Cameron ("The Teminator", etc) and by Jay Cocks, and based on a story by Cameron.

 

Set in Los Angeles on the last two days of 1999, the film follows Lenny Nero (Ralph Fiennes), a black marketeer of an electronic device (SQUID) that allows a user to experience the recorded memories and physical sensations of other people.

 

The film's dystopian society and use of "SQUID technology" has been compared to the "simstim" technology in William Gibson's seminal 1984 novel "Neuromancer".

 

"Simulated Stimulation." A digital representation of the thoughts and feelings of another person. One individual is fitted with a simstim rig that broadcasts their senses to another person, who then rides along in their brain and body, seeing and feeling everything they see and feel.

 

Sounds like an interesting film. Really though, we can already tap into others senses. We can all sense others emotion even if we don't believe in anything like God  or spiritual stuff.

Just think of the invisible barrier we all have around us where we feel uncomfortable if people invade it without permission. 

 

We can all feel energetic changes because we are part of the quantum field. We can all catch fear or any other emotion like a contagion...and we have seen that play out over the last 4 years on a massive scale.

These films such as you mention are there to teach us about stuff we can already do, my current theory, is that the gadgets in those films are for those darker energies or beings who need to control to get what we already have.

 

Effectively they need tech to be what we are, buying into this idea is what controls us.

 

If people could just drop the fear they'd find out all kinds of weird stuff we can do.