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13 hours ago, Mr H said:

If you listen to David Icke he describes himself as all there ever is and could ever be, infinite consciousness. So that must include the cabal.

 

How would you know what is good without experiencing bad? How do you know what is bad if you haven't experienced good? The contrast creates the other.

 

I disagree - but that's OK. Thanx for your perspective. 🙂

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Question for those who believe or experience karma.

 

If you have done something "bad" to someone in this lifetime. Are you able to correct in this lifetime?

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I intend to go to Spirit and have a jolly good feckin' rest, and if anyone comes along with the "R" word while I'm there, I will tell them what I usually tell double glazing sales reps "Maybe one day -eh?" and that usually gets rid of them. They keep hassling me and I will tell them to go and do one, even if they are wearing white robes and long white beards.
I will skip off with my dear dog and we'll find some nice adventures.

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Mathias explains a bit more about after death in this video.

It's all about vibration. You can go to other planet but you need to learn to change your vibration so that you can go there.

 

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If there is no time other than in our 3D world then when you die, there is every era co-existing at the same time. This means....theoretically you could be reincarnated into the ancient time.... but the trick is, is your vibration in line with that time? You 'choose' your parents based on the frequency you vibrate i.e. likes attract likes, so you could be reincarnated as an alien, Pleidian but you'd have to match their frequency as they are light beings.... Something to think about.

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On 4/25/2023 at 8:44 AM, DaleP said:

If there is no time other than in our 3D world then when you die, there is every era co-existing at the same time. This means....theoretically you could be reincarnated into the ancient time.... but the trick is, is your vibration in line with that time? You 'choose' your parents based on the frequency you vibrate i.e. likes attract likes, so you could be reincarnated as an alien, Pleidian but you'd have to match their frequency as they are light beings.... Something to think about.

Hmm. What if eras are only an earth / human construct though in order to control things? Because, after all, what is an era? It's a measure of 'time' in this realm. Elsewhere it probably is meaningless. 

 

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8 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Where is that from? Sounds like a CIA type anti spiritual growth idea. 

 

It comes from someone who knows a lot.

What you need to realise is that we have been taught a whole lot of wrong things so that we'll never escape it.

And when you are presented with truth, you will not believe it. Just look at Covid. Did people believe about what we were trying to warn?

 

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2 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

It comes from someone who knows a lot.

What you need to realise is that we have been taught a whole lot of wrong things so that we'll never escape it.

And when you are presented with truth, you will not believe it. Just look at Covid. Did people believe about what we were trying to warn?

 

Well the thing is that for me, when I see or hear the truth now I get an emotional response right in my heart or sometimes goosebumps. That thing is so overwhelmingly negative its rings as a fear based lie to me especially as its about trapping people with no escape. Thats where all the fear in the spiritual community lies to and is why many are obsessed with "ascension " etc. 

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5 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Well the thing is that for me, when I see or hear the truth now I get an emotional response right in my heart or sometimes goosebumps. That thing is so overwhelmingly negative its rings as a fear based lie to me especially as its about trapping people with no escape. Thats where all the fear in the spiritual community lies to and is why many are obsessed with "ascension " etc. 

 

Another thing that puts me off is when we're told to do all this spiritual work for what is effectively a story, until we die to find out if it's true or not. To be fair, a lot of mainstream religions are the same. It's all a bit culty if it makes me dependent on someone else for the truth. So I'm only going to get interested if there's something I can experience for myself in this life. 

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3 hours ago, Campion said:

 

Another thing that puts me off is when we're told to do all this spiritual work for what is effectively a story, until we die to find out if it's true or not. To be fair, a lot of mainstream religions are the same. It's all a bit culty if it makes me dependent on someone else for the truth. So I'm only going to get interested if there's something I can experience for myself in this life. 

Yes I take your point. However, the strange paradox of that is that once you decide to open up to the spiritual side, that's when you get shown the stuff you need proof of!  The real spiritual work is deleting all the crazy dark shit and fear that we hang on to. Once cleared of that, things become easier and lighter and then it's easier to look at other stuff you wouldn't normally.

I was one of those skeptics and someone who had to see it or experience it to think its reality. That too is a program...

Letting go and trusting is a massive part of the process. 🙂

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On 5/19/2023 at 3:32 AM, DaleP said:

Does it make you feel like we are fcked?

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Bloody hell @DaleP, I thought I was a cheery f@cker, but this makes my posts seem like walks in meadows singing kumbaya and listen to Bob Marley 🤣. I mean, it could be true of course. I am finding myself fluctuating from seeing 'this World' as a place to grow, learn, and refine your Soul, to believing this is a prison for your Soul with no good at all to this 'journey'. It could be true.....I question everything these days and see that everything could be a possibility.  

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8 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Yes I take your point. However, the strange paradox of that is that once you decide to open up to the spiritual side, that's when you get shown the stuff you need proof of!  The real spiritual work is deleting all the crazy dark shit and fear that we hang on to. Once cleared of that, things become easier and lighter and then it's easier to look at other stuff you wouldn't normally.

I was one of those skeptics and someone who had to see it or experience it to think its reality. That too is a program...

Letting go and trusting is a massive part of the process. 🙂

It could be, but it would make a lot of sense that this control grid we live within and that is heavily controlled, would make allowances for those that 'wake up' and seek another path = Spirituality. There is no doubt that this is true within the 'false light teachings'. Who knows if it all corrupted and ultimately another layer of the prison? 

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2 hours ago, BornFreeNowAgain said:

Bloody hell @DaleP, I thought I was a cheery f@cker, but this makes my posts seem like walks in meadows singing kumbaya and listen to Bob Marley 🤣. I mean, it could be true of course. I am finding myself fluctuating from seeing 'this World' as a place to grow, learn, and refine your Soul, to believing this is a prison for your Soul with no good at all to this 'journey'. It could be true.....I question everything these days and see that everything could be a possibility.  

 

The only thing you have to learn is that we are prisoned. The lesson is that you have to figure out how to get out pronto!

So don't get fooled by the story like, 'we are here to learn'. That's a truncated sentence.

'We are here to figure out how to get out!'

 

OK, you don't know if it's truth....I agree. I cannot prove this but if you knew other stuff.... the above quote IS like walks in meadows singing kumbaya while you listen to Bob Marley. 😲

I do not go into details because most will just fly over their head or even become lemmings and jump off from a cliff. We don't want that to happen.

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This Lie that reincarnation is a trap will resonate with a great many people because we are all unsatisfied , we all live in torment to one degree or another ...

 

There maybe a few , who from the outside apear to be doing well and are happy , but if you really get to know them , you will soon see they are hanging on ,just  like everyone else ...

 

So why the hell would we want to come here??? Surely  It must be a trap! 

 

When we die and return to the light , where all is love and bliss, we have a time out , we eventually get our enthusiasm back and want to return to the fray, because we understand that by taking on great challenges we grow and develope and thus are rewarded with greater scope for creativity ... we are on the path to becoming Gods ourselves ... So when in the light , the pain and suffering of physical life is a distant posibility , and so we dive in again to a new life ....

 

It's a bit like a mountineer who plans to climb everest , in the planning it seems a great adventure .... But when half way up and his toes are blue with frostbite he thinks "I must be mad , what the hell am I doing here!" ... when it's all done he can look back with pride at taking on such a task , win or lose. 

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It's not a problem if you can come and go as you pleases but that's not the case due to memory wipe. We have to start from zero when we come back.

There is a claim made by a person that the system that is/was in place, the grid has been destroyed. Is that mean we can get out from that cage which we couldn't get out from? I wonder. 🤔

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If you knew that the elites are free from karma because all of their karma from killing, abuses etc were dumped on unsuspoecting people.... you can guess who they are, would you become slighly angry? After reading about Dr Buttar's murder news today I am feeling a tad angry for a change. So many good doctors and reserchers who have worked for humanity have been sacrificed todate. Clearly we have to make them pay for their karma. But don't go trying to burn down 5G towers etc.... that's pissing in the wind and yields nothing.

 

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3 hours ago, DaleP said:

If you knew that the elites are free from karma because all of their karma from killing, abuses etc were dumped on unsuspoecting people.... you can guess who they are, would you become slighly angry? After reading about Dr Buttar's murder news today I am feeling a tad angry for a change. So many good doctors and reserchers who have worked for humanity have been sacrificed todate. Clearly we have to make them pay for their karma. But don't go trying to burn down 5G towers etc.... that's pissing in the wind and yields nothing.

 

Well it depends how you view it. Maybe his journey at this time was completed. Maybe he will be back with another mission, who knows? I'm sure many more will fall in the coming battle, but those who are meant to take humanity forward will survive and bring forth a more emotionally advanced race. Some others who are here to help, will leave when their job is over.

I've seen a few spiritual commenters saying the earth will (is) splitting into two new worlds, one more advanced dimensionally than the other.

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