Reincarnation is a Trap

[DaleP]

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"I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God." When the disciples heard this, they were greatly astonished and asked, 'Who then can be saved?' Jesus looked at them and said, 'With man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible.'^[4]

 

 

[RobinJ]

On 12/17/2022 at 8:18 PM, DaleP said:

However it may have been traumatic for you, I'd look at it as passing phase. It's not YOU per se.

You were vibrating at that particular emotional frequency at the time and you had a power to change it with a click of your finger.

Yep. And I did just that on many levels.

[DaleP]

I wonder if these electromagnetic pockets that opens/closes randomly is the way out.

Sorry about the ball earth but it's NASA.

 

[RobinJ]

37 minutes ago, DaleP said:

I wonder if these electromagnetic pockets that opens/closes randomly is the way out.

Sorry about the ball earth but it's NASA.

 

"X" points...think how many X things are used in symbology. Why...its almost like they already knew or something

[novymir]

Grace and Mercy and the Power of GOD doesn't give a sh-t about (illusury)"vibrations" or even your "mood".

All that matters is the Will to be Real and True and the letting go of deceit and illusions.

 

Illusions are ALWAYS evil because they are based on deceit--the 1st evil. Reality is of The Truth. There is no blending or balancing of the 2, for as soon as deceit is accepted, all evils will follow and corrupt the whole.

 

Remove the self-deceit, accept The Truth, and you're home-free.

 

 

 

 

 

The Prodigal Son, one by one, fragment by fragment...

 

 

 

Edited March 14 by novymir

[RobinJ]

22 hours ago, novymir said:

Grace and Mercy and the Power of GOD doesn't give a sh-t about (illusury)"vibrations" or even your "mood".

All that matters is the Will to be Real and True and the letting go of deceit and illusions.

 

Illusions are ALWAYS evil because they are based on deceit--the 1st evil. Reality is of The Truth. There is no blending or balancing of the 2, for as soon as deceit is accepted, all evils will follow and corrupt the whole.

 

Remove the self-deceit, accept The Truth, and you're home-free.

 

 

 

 

 

The Prodigal Son, one by one, fragment by fragment...

 

 

 

Vibrations are not illusory. Neither is the fact we are frequency beings. Religion however is stories changed multiple times over millennia, usually expressed as mass control.

[novymir]

12 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Vibrations are not illusory. Neither is the fact we are frequency beings. Religion however is stories changed multiple times over millennia, usually expressed as mass control.

 

Yeah, I'm familiar with that point of view, and it's quite popular. I just don't accept it as a universal and absolute truth. I'm not interested in binding myself to any limitations or exclusionary ideologies, conditions, or requirements, outside of acceptance and allegiance to universal absolute Truth, which is really just an acceptance of Reality as IT IS. Not how I might wish it to be, or believe it to be, or perceive it to be, just how it really IS. That is sufficient to/for me.

 

 

[RobinJ]

5 hours ago, novymir said:

 

Yeah, I'm familiar with that point of view, and it's quite popular. I just don't accept it as a universal and absolute truth. I'm not interested in binding myself to any limitations or exclusionary ideologies, conditions, or requirements, outside of acceptance and allegiance to universal absolute Truth, which is really just an acceptance of Reality as IT IS. Not how I might wish it to be, or believe it to be, or perceive it to be, just how it really IS. That is sufficient to/for me.

 

 

What I learned had nothing to do with other peoples ideas or ideologies as you suggest. My own spiritual journey taught me what we are and my purpose here and it's all energy or frequency related.

Being so stuck in one idealism is just your belief pattern, just like everyone else has theirs. We are here to do a job and live a purpose not simply impose ideas etc.

[novymir]

6 hours ago, RobinJ said:

What I learned had nothing to do with other peoples ideas or ideologies as you suggest. My own spiritual journey taught me what we are and my purpose here and it's all energy or frequency related.

Being so stuck in one idealism is just your belief pattern, just like everyone else has theirs. We are here to do a job and live a purpose not simply impose ideas etc.

Whatever, I stand by the post I made that you don't like. It might be useful to someone else. I don't argue or debate or impose(an impossibility), I offer an alternative.  It's a public forum.

 

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"Grace and Mercy and the Power of GOD doesn't give a sh-t about (illusury)"vibrations" or even your "mood".

All that matters is the Will to be Real and True and the letting go of deceit and illusions.

 

Illusions are ALWAYS evil because they are based on deceit--the 1st evil. Reality is of The Truth. There is no blending or balancing of the 2, for as soon as deceit is accepted, all evils will follow and corrupt the whole.

 

Remove the self-deceit, accept The Truth, and you're home-free."

 

 

 

 

 

The Prodigal Son, one by one, fragment by fragment...

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 16 by novymir

[DaleP]

On 3/16/2023 at 12:56 AM, novymir said:

"Grace and Mercy and the Power of GOD doesn't give a sh-t about (illusury)"vibrations" or even your "mood".

All that matters is the Will to be Real and True and the letting go of deceit and illusions.

 

Illusions are ALWAYS evil because they are based on deceit--the 1st evil. Reality is of The Truth. There is no blending or balancing of the 2, for as soon as deceit is accepted, all evils will follow and corrupt the whole.

 

Remove the self-deceit, accept The Truth, and you're home-free."

 

 

 

 

 

The Prodigal Son, one by one, fragment by fragment...

 

But what is REAL though?

You talk of illusions as if evil but illusion/imaginary is where inspiration comes from and becomes solid in this 3D world.

Everything is just a massive possibility until it is manifested in this world.

[DaleP]

I am re-thinking of reincarnation.

Death is actually good. Imagine if you are on 2020 on repeat forever!

That's what's been happening literally though.

 

[novymir]

1 hour ago, DaleP said:

 

But what is REAL though?

You talk of illusions as if evil but illusion/imaginary is where inspiration comes from and becomes solid in this 3D world.

Everything is just a massive possibility until it is manifested in this world.

 

You don't really know what you're saying there, (you're just guessing or hoping),, how can you know anything if you don't know what is Real?

Well, you do, but you just don't yet remember.

 

This isn't about me or what I know or don't know, aside from seeing the obvious problem with your question and your following statement(assumptions).

 

 

 

We reap what we sow, intentional or not, deceived or not, true or false matters not, we reap what we sow. Is this statement true? False? It's one or the other.

 

Are we aware of the totality and the ramifications/consequences of what we're sowing? Are we aware of any/all costs?

 

Is there something Greater that does Know better that you or I, something that is never deceived, and always Truthful?

 

Is that something: something to avoid, or dismiss, or blow off as unimportant, or as fantasy?  Is that something supposed to conform to what I or someone else says it must be? Does anyone believe it will or can be not as it is? That it will pretend?

 

They do it all the time, attempt to make it something it is not and make themselves something they are not...as if WHAT IS isn't "good" enough...THE INFINITE isn't enough...they want .......LESS, much, much less,,,,,to be as little and weak and fake as they can "imagine", all the while telling themselves how "great" and "big" and "powerful" (and "free") they are...hahaha...they can go to "higher dimensions"...see things others can't see....in the illusion..."manifest" things...get stuff....woohoo!

 

Hehe..I ain't buying into it anymore...I'm outa here. Permanently.

 

 

 

[RobinJ]

I dont think reincarnation is a trap unless we want it to be. We are here to experience and learn and to get back to, or open up to, our true self. Some are old souls who have been here many times to help guide humanity out of fear and to move forward spiritually during difficult periods like apocalyptic resets etc. Humanity is about to experience another reset and hence many are waking from their hypnotic slumber. When we learn the lessons given to us and move forward we ascend to higher levels of consciousness and then have a choice to come back again or not.

[DaleP]

On 3/24/2023 at 4:40 AM, novymir said:

You don't really know what you're saying there, (you're just guessing or hoping),, how can you know anything if you don't know what is Real?

 

Your answer is right here.

https://davidicke.com/2023/03/25/david-icke-i-tried-to-wake-you-up/

 

Depending on the limitation/belief you have, that is your reality.

If you believe that everything is possible, humanly unthinkable can happen.

For example, you must have heard of people being abuducted by aliens and their body lifted out of their bed, hoisted up through the roof. This means, our body which appears solid can go through a 'solid' wall. Most of us can't do it because we don't know how but it is possible.

Expand your mind, you get rid of limiting belief and be an infinite self then you'll understand lot more.

If you stay with the science(!) because they have proven facts....then that's where you will be, i.e. invisible world does not exist.

 

This video will help you understanding the concept more.

 

^ You only have to watch like less than 4 mins and David is dropping so many truth bombs.

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[DaleP]

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You don't really know what you're saying there, (you're just guessing or hoping),, how can you know anything if you don't know what is Real?

 

I think 'perceived reality' is what we are talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O5NFC_SOui8

 

[novymir]

7 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

Your answer is right here.

https://davidicke.com/2023/03/25/david-icke-i-tried-to-wake-you-up/

 

Depending on the limitation/belief you have, that is your reality.

If you believe that everything is possible, humanly unthinkable can happen.

For example, you must have heard of people being abuducted by aliens and their body lifted out of their bed, hoisted up through the roof. This means, our body which appears solid can go through a 'solid' wall. Most of us can't do it because we don't know how but it is possible.

Expand your mind, you get rid of limiting belief and be an infinite self then you'll understand lot more.

If you stay with the science(!) because they have proven facts....then that's where you will be, i.e. invisible world does not exist.

 

This video will help you understanding the concept more.

 

^ You only have to watch like less than 4 mins and David is dropping so many truth bombs.

 

I've already "tapped" into The Highest. I don't want or need nothing else.

 

"Limitations" only occur in illusions. They are the opposite of The Real which is UNLIMITED INFINITY.

 

For something to be "possible" it must be true, otherwise it is just a self-deception, a fantasy based on deceit. A living lie. Living a lie. It's an oxymoronic idea.

 

The only thing illusions offer is the experience of "evil", because evil is not of The Truth, therefore not present in Reality. Some would say that is a "limitation"...(hello Lucifer)....no... actually...it's just the way Reality IS. Soooo, sorrryy....!!! Have fun with your fantasies of "evil"!...until it's not so fun...

 

 

 

 

This isn't up for debate, it's a take-it or leave-it kinda thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[novymir]

Jesus said; "Do not love the world[illusion], or the things of the world[illusion], if you love the world[illusion], the love of GOD[REALITY] is not in you.". (John 2:15)

 

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both GOD[TRUTH-REALITY] and mammon[deceit-illusions]". (Matthew 6:24)
 

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Anyone who settles for anything less than The Highest and The Greatest is selling themselves short, anyone that believes they are The Highest and The Greatest is deluding themselves, confusing MAGNITUDE with Magnitude.

 

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[RobinJ]

29 minutes ago, novymir said:

Jesus said; "Do not love the world[illusion], or the things of the world[illusion], if you love the world[illusion], the love of GOD[REALITY] is not in you.". (John 2:15)

 

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both GOD[TRUTH-REALITY] and mammon[deceit-illusions]". (Matthew 6:24)
 

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Anyone who settles for anything less than The Highest and The Greatest is selling themselves short, anyone that believes they are The Highest and The Greatest is deluding themselves, confusing MAGNITUDE with Magnitude.

 

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Well unless you were there to witness those things being said then theres likely to have been some changes over the years to any supposed quote.

Also, that comment was nothing to do with the topic of the thread. 

[novymir]

1 hour ago, novymir said:

Jesus said; "Do not love the world[illusion], or the things of the world[illusion], if you love the world[illusion], the love of GOD[REALITY] is not in you.". (John 2:15)

 

"No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other, or you will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve both GOD[TRUTH-REALITY] and mammon[deceit-illusions]". (Matthew 6:24)
 

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Anyone who settles for anything less than The Highest and The Greatest is selling themselves short, anyone that believes they are The Highest and The Greatest is deluding themselves, confusing MAGNITUDE with Magnitude.

 

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I forgot to add a rhetorical question:

 

What is "The Last Temptation of Christ"?

 

 

 

 

ps; all my posts are "on topic", the fact that someone or even many would dispute or complain about that is only an indication of the blinders those complainers are wearing. They will of course deny this. And probably try to recruit other blind ones to "validate" their point of view...but, it should be blatantly obvious...consensus in this world is not synonymous with Truth.

 

 

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there is no "there" or "past", there is only that Of Truth, and it doesn't change, anything else is fantasy, delusion, a dream of deceit, nothing and nowhere.

One dispells illusions, the other propagates them.

 

 

Jesus Christ has everything to do with the ending of this "reincarnation" scam.

"Woe to you teachers of the law(of this world), you yourselves won't enter The Kingdom of Heaven(Reality), and you prevent them that would enter from entering(with your lies, and fantasies, spells, seductions and attacks).".

 

The Truth Sets Us Free. (from what?-----------------at this point.......................DUH!...deceit, as in what sets us free from deceit? Duh! The Truth.

DUH?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited March 27 by novymir

[Origin]

On 3/24/2023 at 2:58 AM, DaleP said:

 

But what is REAL though?

The system has virtually manipulated everything that has leaked in and is using it against everyone. For each topic it has created its version of experiences, and in many languages. Books, religions, beliefs, sciences. Even most of the Experiencer who have seen it directly with their own eyes are lured into the trap and everything is distorted. Anyone who studies the history of creation will inevitably find that there is an endless competition to see who is right in the end. I guess this is observed with some interest by a higher instance. I would not believe anything that comes from humans..

 

Here is such a case.

 

[RobinJ]

And...Jesus is probably yet another simulation construct so as to give people an excuse to look outside themselves for answers. Another crutch to lean on.

[RobinJ]

7 hours ago, Origin said:

The system has virtually manipulated everything that has leaked in and is using it against everyone. For each topic it has created its version of experiences, and in many languages. Books, religions, beliefs, sciences. Even most of the Experiencer who have seen it directly with their own eyes are lured into the trap and everything is distorted. Anyone who studies the history of creation will inevitably find that there is an endless competition to see who is right in the end. I guess this is observed with some interest by a higher instance. I would not believe anything that comes from humans..

 

Here is such a case.

 

This is a person with mental issues who has sucked in and cobbled together a load of bits and pieces from all the current talking points to make herself feel special, in a world where they are forever trying to squash people into smaller and smaller labelled boxes. zero to do with spirituality in my humble opinion. 

[novymir]

2 hours ago, RobinJ said:

And...Jesus is probably yet another simulation construct so as to give people an excuse to look outside themselves for answers. Another crutch to lean on.

 

Heh, I guess that means that you don't know that you are a "simulation construct" too.

 

Then the question becomes which one is more real and expresses the most Truth?

 

 

 

 

 

ps: the religious institutions(and others) can make claims and associations, but that doesn't mean their claims and associations are genuine or true.

 

 

And forgive me if I disbelieve that you haven't relied heavily on the experiences and learnings of others, "outside of yourself", for whatever truthfulness you have become aware of.

 

 

 

Edited March 28 by novymir

[DaleP]

So the message here is not the goal, destination but what you can create because there is no end. Eternal....infinite normad.

 

Edited March 28 by DaleP

[Origin]

11 hours ago, RobinJ said:

This is a person with mental issues who has sucked in and cobbled together a load of bits and pieces from all the current talking points to make herself feel special, in a world where they are forever trying to squash people into smaller and smaller labelled boxes. zero to do with spirituality in my humble opinion. 

That's my point, because youtube is the trap. They are all the chosen ones, they all tell the same story. And that is predetermined by the system. And in the end everyone will fall into the trap. Unless something interferes.