Reincarnation is a Trap

[DaleP]

17 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 

Well if you believe the Phoenix prophecy then the next reset starts in 2040. Based on some pretty solid research of recurring events of 138 years apart going way back into deep antiquity. Last one was the mud floods of 1902

 

I've never heard of the Phoenix prophecy. It sounds like one of masonic prophecy since Phoenix is mentioned.

 

Mud flood of 1902? Tartaria?

[DaleP]

23 hours ago, RobinJ said:

 You know whats interesting ( re that film Astral City) we were discussing on another thread, is that there is a line in it at the beginning that goes something like "being on earth and living for money/ things/ greed/ avarice/ material stuff and not for love is a slow suicide. By choosing this direction you will wind up in purgatory until you can see the error of your ways and atone"

That really struck me, because, when you think about it, everything they do to us is to kill us slowly unless we choose to break free.

 

Money is necessary to survive in this world. There is nothing wrong with it. It's the label people put on which makes it wrong.

You cannot ask a roofer to fix your roof with a ton of cabbages.

[DaleP]

So I have started reading the Astral City. Sorry, this is going to be a long post but I have made notes and each point is something to be contemplated if you are serious. I think this could be useful, in case you couldn’t exit and still stuck in the Matrix. But I find it I am already doing this and it is helpful in this world so people might want to start doing it now so that you don't have to learn it when you are over there. Also the points are just there to highlight, you'll need to read around it to get the fair point.

NB: Bearing in mind, this book, a channelled material, was written in the 60s, you’ll find a few typo and the likes but it is readable on the whole.

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p.18

How many of you may still avoid the bitter road of sorrow by cultivating the inner fields of your heart. Light up your lamp before crossing the threshold of the shadows. Search for Truth, lest the truth find you unprepared. Sweat and toil now, lest you weep afterwards.

I’ve been saying, work now to accumulate light/knowledge. If you have a small torch, a dim light, you can only see small area whereas if you have more light you can see far, i.e. more info, inspiration in this life and thereafter.

 

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p.21

Ah, one must suffer a great deal in order to understand the mysterious beauty of prayer. One must know remorse, humiliation and utter misery to fully appreciate the sublime sweetness of Hope! It was at that moment that the dense mist all around cleared away, and a person came forward.

My mentor says many people will go to hell and I see this. If you read the example of a doctor in the book, you’ll understand. You need to raise your vibration in order to see/hear what’s around you. There are helpers in this world as well as on the other world but if you are blind to them due to low vibration, you are alone when you are not. This is the same now.

 

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p.28

Instead, you chose a dark, exasperating way of life which attracted destructive vibrations from those around you.

In this section, it explains of how your illness is caused by your mental state, unprocessed issues etc and goes on to mention about suicide. They have a different definition of suicide and something like bad thoughts/unprocessed issues leads to addiction/escape of some kind and uncleased self leads to slow death/suicide. Some jabbed people dies quickly while others might take a few weeks/months. Some overdose but hangs on for a few days and die while others might live on but die due to the damage caused to their organs. Where do you draw a like in terms of timing? Whether it’s food, game addiction, it’s all the same. It’s a slow suicide.

 

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p.35

The more you dwell on your own painful experiences, the more you bind yourself to them.

 

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but neither you nor we have the time to waste on your complaints.

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p.36

Weak souls resist service and remain inactive, venting their complaints to all. Strong ones, though, accept the task given them as constructive steps on the path towards perfection.

This is another thing I’ve been saying, rather than complaining, do something to improve which is much more constructive and doesn’t bring your vibration down. Time to choose side.

 

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p.39

The Lord doesn’t wait for our prayers to love us. Yet, just as a dirty mirror cannot reflect the light, it is indispensable for us to cleanse ourselves and build a receptive attitude in order to understand His infinite goodness.

Hence cleansing, removing issues are very important if you want to raise vibration.

 

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p.39

Yet as soon as you felt the necessity for divine assistance you expanded the range of your mental vibrations and obtained vision and help.

 

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p.40

but keep in mind that all deserving petitions should contain three basic prerequisites: an active will, persevering work, and merit. In other words, one must first wish, then work towards that wish, and finally be deserving of what he requested.

 

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p.42

The average man is unaware that all manifestations of order around him proceed from higher planes.

 

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p.42

There are obstacles in the invisible zones close to the Earth, just as there are on the Earth itself. Enormous areas with undeveloped potential here are comparable to the great tracts of forbidden terrain on Earth.

Reference to FE?

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p.46

For over six months the diet of the Astral City was reduced to the life-supporting principles in the atmosphere and the electrical, magnetic and solar elements in the water.

 

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p.50

In the Ministry of Assistance, you will find several departments entirely devoted to mixing pure water with certain elements drawn from solar rays and from spiritual magnetism.

 

Who charges water regularly?

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p.51

In the physical world, my friend, not only does water carry away the residues of material bodies, but it also becomes impregnated with our mental vibrations.

Water is the element that takes energy so easily.

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p.53

As a rule, after long periods of apprenticeship and service, we reincarnate to continue our struggle towards perfection.

 

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p.58

the Lower Zone to which we are referring is like a home where there is no bread – everybody complains and no one is right.

So if you are complaining now, you will sure to be with like-minded people in lower zone. Choice is yours.

 

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p.59

you will see there the net of invisible wires connecting it to human minds.

This section explains about how we are connected to earthbound entities. You choose your vibration, high or low. One of my mentors say, those that kill etc…. they are possessed. They are not themselves.

 

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p.78

You are forbidden to mention thanks. Please don’t, or you would force me to remember some long-forgotten conventional Earthly phrase for the sake of etiquette.”

'Thanks' is just an etiquette.

 

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p.82

God’s infinite love is the center of equilibrium of all Creation; the more evolved the created beings, the subtler their processes of nutrition.

Edited July 26, 2022 by DaleP

[RobinJ]

You know Dale there was also a moment in that film which hit me like a hammer. It was like a visual of a dream I had before CV started. A friend of mine also had a similar dream around the same time ( she wasnt a friend back then as I only met her last year but we are both on a spiritual awakening journey.)

In the film they emerge from a mist that they are stuck in.

In my dream;

Basically I am on the top of a hill with my sister who I was very close to at the time. In front of us was a tunnel and hundreds of people. My sister and I were holding hands and we knew we had to get to the end of the tunnel. When we entered there was a deep mist and it became almost impossible to see anyone. I was dragging my sister along urging her to hurry up. We had to get to the bottom and out of the mist.

We got to near the bottom and the crowd was so thick that we lost contact. I was calling her but couldnt find her. In that moment I had a choice- t go forward alone or to stay and seek my sister. I chose to carry on and soon I emerged into a bright light and in front of me was a HUGE creamy white building with hundreds of white steps. I knew all I had to do was climb up the steps and I would be OK so I started to climb.

 

I realised many months later that this dream was a prophesy for me. To learn that we need to let go, even if it is really difficult and it means leaving current loved ones behind. Letting go is a huge part of this process, and my dream was a kind of metaphor for that. That dream is still super vivid to me.

[loady]

14 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

This sounded good but we are never disconnected from the omnipotent force which includes this matthew whoever he is.

 

physical disconnection cannot occur becuse nothing physical really exists. by disconnection i am refering to a severed consiousness  in our  present normal state of awareness. read my posts a few pages back i have explained it. we are allknowing and allbeing. 

 

to quote a fake guru by the only truth  he said its not about becoming true its about unbecoming false so all thats left is truth. 

 

we have to break the the multidimensionell spell that prevents us from accesing our true awareness.

Edited July 27, 2022 by loady

[DaleP]

Why would you quote a fake guru?

What he says just sounds like waffling.

You only have to break yours. That's all you are reponsible for.

Edited July 27, 2022 by DaleP

[loady]

8 hours ago, DaleP said:

Why would you quote a fake guru?

What he says just sounds like waffling.

You only have to break yours. That's all you are reponsible for.

 

becuse its a very apt quote that is true regardless, the rest of that gurus work consist of low level mumblings, his name is jed mckenna btw.

matt went true something that magnified his intelligence by millions fold. relaying that information to someone who is not one the same wave lenght is litterary impossible. it would be like trying to fit a warehouse full of information into the size of a tiny matchbox, it cannot be done.

 

matt writes in a very watered form by purpose. his humble approach is tailormade to best suit the help of the subconsiousess of any reader, however his work can only help those who want to be free. one has to be emotionally attached to his work in order to activate the triggers in his work ( triggers that will help the subconsiousness  of the reader to remember the truth aswell as to help the subconsiusness create the path that will manifest the said the truth later on.

 

 

[JCP]

On 7/26/2022 at 5:17 PM, DaleP said:

 

Money is necessary to survive in this world. There is nothing wrong with it. It's the label people put on which makes it wrong.

You cannot ask a roofer to fix your roof with a ton of cabbages.

 

Money is not necessary to survive. What is necessary are the things money buys. By making the statement above, you are inadvertently promoting the debt/slave system of today, where a few people who have most of the money have the ability to control and dictate our lives. There is a better way. You just have to have an imagination and think outside of the box. The high concentration of money, in so few hands is what causes most of the problems you espouse against.

Instead of thinking how you use money, think about how they use money.

[DaleP]

15 minutes ago, JCP said:

 

Money is not necessary to survive. What is necessary are the things money buys. By making the statement above, you are inadvertently promoting the debt/slave system of today, where a few people who have most of the money have the ability to control and dictate our lives. There is a better way. You just have to have an imagination and think outside of the box. The high concentration of money, in so few hands is what causes most of the problems you espouse against.

Instead of thinking how you use money, think about how they use money.

 

Yeah, we are good at thinking and typing in this forum. That's it. lol

If this is something you passionate about, do come up with the action plan.

Anyway, you'd love the afterlife JCP. The kind of idea you have is right up there described in the Astral City. You'll have your ideal life once you are 'dead'.

When in prison, there is a system and order. When you are in the open prison like this one, you still have a sytem and order. When you are dead, there is a system as well. lol

[Ethel]

[JCP]

9 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

Yeah, we are good at thinking and typing in this forum. That's it. lol

If this is something you passionate about, do come up with the action plan.

Anyway, you'd love the afterlife JCP. The kind of idea you have is right up there described in the Astral City. You'll have your ideal life once you are 'dead'.

When in prison, there is a system and order. When you are in the open prison like this one, you still have a sytem and order. When you are dead, there is a system as well. lol

 

Yes, it is something I'm passionate about because IMO, money is at the root of our slavery (and all evil). I have come up with an action plan (not mine, but one I subscribe to) that we discussed on another thread (https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/27817-start-a-revolution-or-die-or-live-like-a-slave/#comment-428293) if you remember. It is a Resource Based Economy (RBE), however I don't think you responded favorably to the idea.

 

I've been following some of your and RobinJ's discussions about the Astral City but have yet to dig into to it, but I plan to. I hope I do love the afterlife, because I believe that many of us will be visiting it soon. I would love to exist in a place that I truly enjoyed. I am curious to find if the Astral City is accessed through the tunnel of light, or by avoiding it, and if they use money there. I was hesitant to dig into the Astral City because I understand it is in Portuguese. My other concern is that it is produced by 20th Century Fox. It's like asking the fox the best way to secure your hen-house (if you know what I mean). 

 

[DaleP]

3 minutes ago, JCP said:

 

Yes, it is something I'm passionate about because IMO, money is at the root of our slavery (and all evil). I have come up with an action plan (not mine, but one I subscribe to) that we discussed on another thread (https://forum.davidicke.com/index.php?/topic/27817-start-a-revolution-or-die-or-live-like-a-slave/#comment-428293) if you remember. It is a Resource Based Economy (RBE), however I don't think you responded favorably to the idea.

 

I've been following some of your and RobinJ's discussions about the Astral City but have yet to dig into to it, but I plan to. I hope I do love the afterlife, because I believe that many of us will be visiting it soon. I would love to exist in a place that I truly enjoyed. I am curious to find if the Astral City is accessed through the tunnel of light, or by avoiding it, and if they use money there. I was hesitant to dig into the Astral City because I understand it is in Portuguese. My other concern is that it is produced by 20th Century Fox. It's like asking the fox the best way to secure your hen-house (if you know what I mean). 

 

 

RBE is how it works in the AStral City. No fiat, just labour and service based points.

But you know the community of crypto was set up to get away from the central governmental finance control. Governments want to push their own CBDC so that it can be monitored and they hate the crypto because it's decentralized. So in that sense, it's not designed to enslave us.

 

People who astral travel are already going to make their own city/country, a castle.

[loady]

1 hour ago, JCP said:

 

Money is not necessary to survive. What is necessary are the things money buys. By making the statement above, you are inadvertently promoting the debt/slave system of today, where a few people who have most of the money have the ability to control and dictate our lives. There is a better way. You just have to have an imagination and think outside of the box. The high concentration of money, in so few hands is what causes most of the problems you espouse against.

Instead of thinking how you use money, think about how they use money.

 

not to mention how money can be manipulated to recruit occult power to tptb

 

here:s a great article about the power of money and its occult usage https://www.docdroid.net/Ck0GiL1/matthewdelooze-ill-take-it-what-is-it-docx?fbclid=IwAR0bjMJscPL-wmh2Qlp2yTaNYoRxp7irrq9OPHyWzJlo0TcRe2I3isQOwzc (written by matthew delooze)

[JCP]

2 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

RBE is how it works in the AStral City. No fiat, just labour and service based points.

But you know the community of crypto was set up to get away from the central governmental finance control. Governments want to push their own CBDC so that it can be monitored and they hate the crypto because it's decentralized. So in that sense, it's not designed to enslave us.

 

People who astral travel are already going to make their own city/country, a castle.

 

I seriously suspect the crypto's were created by the e-leet to make us think there was an option. There are none. They totally control cryptos. How?  ....... because they have most of the money. We shouldn't think that they stayed out of cyrptos because they are decentralized or for some other reason. They have the need to control everything and if you have an alternate way to purchase or sell, they will take it from you. If there's a way to side-step the central banks, you'd better believe they have already covered that base. Just because they are decentralized has no bearing on the price of cryptos. They are going to crash the system and all currencies will go worthless thru hyperinflation and by them liquidating and selling their shares ...... driving the price lower and lower. They have to eliminate all of the peoples' options, to force us to accept the new system they want to install. Money is their game, and if we play in their game, in the end, we will lose. All money, bar-none, is designed to enslave you. Believe it or not but IMO - They got us by the short hairs because they control everything. I don't think even gold or silver will help. This manipulation is a perfect example of why money is so destructive and needs to be eliminated.

 

I would suggest that if an RBE works in the Astral City, why wouldn't it make sense to convert over to one in this existence?

 

I wasn't able to watch the movie unless I paid, so I watched some clips on youtube. There were some concepts and ideas that didn't set right with me, so I think I'll take a pass. When I go, I will attempt to return to source. I wouldn't trust a Fox production any more than I would trust one from MSNBC or CNN.

[Clarissa]

@Gremmels I've enjoyed reading your thought projection on here. I know about this frequency fence as you call it. I've got different names for it because unfortunately what the things are you and I are seeing into, doesn't have any description in language, so you have to try to conquer what it is that you're experiencing without the physical language to back it up. Don't you get the idea it's really hard to describe because there's nothing to relate it to here where we're all trapped into? The other side of the problem is it can't be explained to other people because they are clueless and can't understand what it is that your saying.

 

These things exist in The Astral and The Astral is also the Third Dimension, yeah and the language to actively describe it is missing and so is the knowledge..... which makes it impossible to explain.

[Bernix]

So a few things have happened over the last several weeks which have made me realise I've been targeted to keep my soul trapped here on Earth. Last year I was wide awake, consciousness expanded and living at home with family. Intuition was clear. I slept really well and was passionate about the sharing the truth.

 

These last 6 months since we moved house, my consciousness has lowered to the point where I feel apathetic about life and have no interest in anything due to poor sleep from EMFs. I have also been in a relationship with a guy who operates on a lower consciousness. I was drawn to someone who had a more expanded perception of life, and mentioned about the covid vaccine - I felt so weak from my lack of sleep/eating I felt unable to say anything and now it's too late, he took the jab.

 

I can see now looking back this was an opportunity to expand my consciousness as he was open to other ideas, but unfortunately wasn't awake enough to avoid the vaccine due to plans to travel soon. I felt a sense of urgency to see him as I've known him for a long time, but only now I've realised it was to stop him taking the vaccine and possibly start a life together. I feel our souls are connected and I can sense he will be stuck in the reincarnation trap, and feel I will be now too. I've already noticed since he had the jab he is a completely different person. Since it has happened I've been unable to cry and feel on edge, and I wonder if it's because my soul knows something about the spiritual consequences here. I keep thinking there must be a way, but part of me just knows it's too late.

 

I've also been going to church and found some comfort in this when I was depressed, but have realised that this was also a trap to keep my soul stuck here as the pastor says about eternal life in the kingdom of heaven, and not to worry about anything as God has sorted everything, but something else tells me there is more than meets the eye. 

 

I am reading David Icke's new book, and would like to know other people's thoughts. If we are living somewhere where our consciousness is lowered and we don't have the energy to move/create a new life elsewhere, *and* we are struggling to function due to a karmic soul tie from a close one taking the vaccine... then is there no hope? More than anything in this life I wish for it to be the last and although I've felt depressed recently, I've been jolted awake by this incident and have no desire to die, only that when I do I escape the reincarnation trap.

Edited August 3, 2022 by Bernix

[78ast78dgyad]

On 8/3/2022 at 6:15 PM, Bernix said:

So a few things have happened over the last several weeks which have made me realise I've been targeted to keep my soul trapped here on Earth. Last year I was wide awake, consciousness expanded and living at home with family. Intuition was clear. I slept really well and was passionate about the sharing the truth.

 

These last 6 months since we moved house, my consciousness has lowered to the point where I feel apathetic about life and have no interest in anything due to poor sleep from EMFs. I have also been in a relationship with a guy who operates on a lower consciousness. I was drawn to someone who had a more expanded perception of life, and mentioned about the covid vaccine - I felt so weak from my lack of sleep/eating I felt unable to say anything and now it's too late, he took the jab.

 

I can see now looking back this was an opportunity to expand my consciousness as he was open to other ideas, but unfortunately wasn't awake enough to avoid the vaccine due to plans to travel soon. I felt a sense of urgency to see him as I've known him for a long time, but only now I've realised it was to stop him taking the vaccine and possibly start a life together. I feel our souls are connected and I can sense he will be stuck in the reincarnation trap, and feel I will be now too. I've already noticed since he had the jab he is a completely different person. Since it has happened I've been unable to cry and feel on edge, and I wonder if it's because my soul knows something about the spiritual consequences here. I keep thinking there must be a way, but part of me just knows it's too late.

 

I've also been going to church and found some comfort in this when I was depressed, but have realised that this was also a trap to keep my soul stuck here as the pastor says about eternal life in the kingdom of heaven, and not to worry about anything as God has sorted everything, but something else tells me there is more than meets the eye. 

 

I am reading David Icke's new book, and would like to know other people's thoughts. If we are living somewhere where our consciousness is lowered and we don't have the energy to move/create a new life elsewhere, *and* we are struggling to function due to a karmic soul tie from a close one taking the vaccine... then is there no hope? More than anything in this life I wish for it to be the last and although I've felt depressed recently, I've been jolted awake by this incident and have no desire to die, only that when I do I escape the reincarnation trap.

 

Firstly - Before I say anything, I get my information from these channels so my beliefs are biased.

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/OpenYourReality/videos

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/QuantumBusinessman/videos

 

https://www.bitchute.com/channel/tj99AwcN3zlH/

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/davidwilcock333/videos

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/AnthonyPeake1/videos

 

https://www.youtube.com/c/MindUnveiled

 

Do i believe reincarnation is a trap?

 

No.

 

I believe we are sent here into the simulation to improve.

If we were going to fail and let the New World Order win, we would not enter into the simulation.

If Bill Gates kills everyone, then the simulation would not exist. The simulation has a bias towards positivity and happiness.

Just like a film when you think the villain has won, he hasn't. Something happens that prevents him from winning.

 

 

Why does any simulation exist?

To teach people things. To improve them. To make them change an old behaviour or habit or way of thinking.

 

How do we improve?

By seeking and acquiring new information and technology, most of it suppressed, that makes things better.

By seeking and acquiring esoteric knowledge, as this raises our awareness and lets us see things we didn't see before.

 

Why are we sent to the year 2022?

Because things get really bad and they need people who can think outside the box like David Icke and the people on this forum.

We do reincarnate again in the year 3000 and repeat the process.

Live a normal boring life, then face a challenge, and find people who can face the challenge with you.

This is the most important point at the simulation.

War with China and Russia in the next 3 months.

 

Are we meant to be in human form?

I think we are, but in the right environment.

Currently we are in the wrong environment with big cities, pollution and toxins everywhere.

The website stolenhistory talks about lost empires that created utopias with free

energy and architecture that enhanced human consciousness.

https://stolenhistory.net/threads/the-lost-key-part-3-chapter-8.5612/

 

 

 

 

Edited August 5, 2022 by 78ast78dgyad

[BOZ]

Hi, after reading The Trap, this has reinforced/repeated some of my suspicions over reincarnation, it’s existence and purpose.  I was also directed to mandukya Upanishad and Vedanta which says similar things without the psychopaths trying to rig the system.  However, I can’t get it clear in my head why there is a depopulation agenda if the control system requires us to be kept on the samsaric wheel. Presumably, each death gives us a chance to break out and get to 5D, as David’s trailer video.   Is it to clear out the ‘non conscious players’ as they are no longer needed?  Any thoughts would be welcomed as I am struggling with this!

[kilowon]

On 8/6/2022 at 11:40 PM, BOZ said:

Hi, after reading The Trap, this has reinforced/repeated some of my suspicions over reincarnation, it’s existence and purpose.  I was also directed to mandukya Upanishad and Vedanta which says similar things without the psychopaths trying to rig the system.  However, I can’t get it clear in my head why there is a depopulation agenda if the control system requires us to be kept on the samsaric wheel. Presumably, each death gives us a chance to break out and get to 5D, as David’s trailer video.   Is it to clear out the ‘non conscious players’ as they are no longer needed?  Any thoughts would be welcomed as I am struggling with this!

While I do not buy into the 5D idea, I think your idea about clearing the NPCs may have some validity. I think the Matrix seemed to also kind of overload when there are too many of us here which may explained why there seemed to be so many glitches nowadays. Maybe the Matrix is running low on memory/RAM and need a hard reset. Like a computer running low on Memory. And since the Astral realm is as much a loosh farm as here then they still going to have their sustenance available to them

[kilowon]

On 8/3/2022 at 9:15 PM, Bernix said:

So a few things have happened over the last several weeks which have made me realise I've been targeted to keep my soul trapped here on Earth. Last year I was wide awake, consciousness expanded and living at home with family. Intuition was clear. I slept really well and was passionate about the sharing the truth.

 

These last 6 months since we moved house, my consciousness has lowered to the point where I feel apathetic about life and have no interest in anything due to poor sleep from EMFs. I have also been in a relationship with a guy who operates on a lower consciousness. I was drawn to someone who had a more expanded perception of life, and mentioned about the covid vaccine - I felt so weak from my lack of sleep/eating I felt unable to say anything and now it's too late, he took the jab.

 

I can see now looking back this was an opportunity to expand my consciousness as he was open to other ideas, but unfortunately wasn't awake enough to avoid the vaccine due to plans to travel soon. I felt a sense of urgency to see him as I've known him for a long time, but only now I've realised it was to stop him taking the vaccine and possibly start a life together. I feel our souls are connected and I can sense he will be stuck in the reincarnation trap, and feel I will be now too. I've already noticed since he had the jab he is a completely different person. Since it has happened I've been unable to cry and feel on edge, and I wonder if it's because my soul knows something about the spiritual consequences here. I keep thinking there must be a way, but part of me just knows it's too late.

 

I've also been going to church and found some comfort in this when I was depressed, but have realised that this was also a trap to keep my soul stuck here as the pastor says about eternal life in the kingdom of heaven, and not to worry about anything as God has sorted everything, but something else tells me there is more than meets the eye. 

 

I am reading David Icke's new book, and would like to know other people's thoughts. If we are living somewhere where our consciousness is lowered and we don't have the energy to move/create a new life elsewhere, *and* we are struggling to function due to a karmic soul tie from a close one taking the vaccine... then is there no hope? More than anything in this life I wish for it to be the last and although I've felt depressed recently, I've been jolted awake by this incident and have no desire to die, only that when I do I escape the reincarnation trap.

Go there for like minded individuals and more informations: https://www.youtube.com/c/ForeverConsciousResearchChannel/playlists

[BOZ]

Thanks kilowon, appreciate the link and am watching the vids.  I saw the William Buhlman video which took me back to my interest in Bob Monroe and Tom Campbell’s My Big Toe which seemed, to me, to be a cogent view of reality, ie. We are in a VR which is why detail is only ‘rendered’ when viewed by some form of consciousness to save unnecessary computing power.  Regarding 5D, I see that many ideas in reality include another dimension albeit, unlike Bostrom and Musk, I don’t see that other levels of the simulation need to be inhabited by human forms, but Turiya or infinite awareness or whatever form or non form it could take ?  The worry is that something that ‘they’ do to us in this reality could affect whether we can escape it or will we become trapped.  I see manipulative people and query whether they are software programs enforcing the matrix or these NCPs - you must get the vax, better job, more debt….Is it like the TV program, ie. Nothing that can be shown on the TV can affect the workings of the TV, which would not be a problem and we just put this ‘life’ down to a fun/not fun experience or can the simulation change the fundamentals and keep us coming back to this bad copy and get to the point of control where we could never leave.  I hadn’t considered that they can vamp our energy from the 4th dimension but that is a good point.  Would welcome your take.  Cheers

[Ethel]

There are a few threads here on reincarnation being a trap, maybe a mod could merge them?

[Bombadil]

6 minutes ago, Ethel said:

There are a few threads here on reincarnation being a trap, maybe a mod could merge them?

ill look into it. Sometimes merged topics become disjointed because of the dates posts were made

[Bombadil]

Ok ive mergerd the two obvious topics because there isnt too much of an issue, The other main reincarnation topic has been left as it has a lot more posts.

[RobinJ]

On 8/6/2022 at 2:40 PM, BOZ said:

Hi, after reading The Trap, this has reinforced/repeated some of my suspicions over reincarnation, it’s existence and purpose.  I was also directed to mandukya Upanishad and Vedanta which says similar things without the psychopaths trying to rig the system.  However, I can’t get it clear in my head why there is a depopulation agenda if the control system requires us to be kept on the samsaric wheel. Presumably, each death gives us a chance to break out and get to 5D, as David’s trailer video.   Is it to clear out the ‘non conscious players’ as they are no longer needed?  Any thoughts would be welcomed as I am struggling with this!

 

I feel it is not all, but *some* who are kept- enough to keep the system available, and some who will be moved out of this realm.

If we are living in an augmented reality there will only ever be just enough people before others or extras get killed off. If you look at the Phoenix Prophesies from Archaix.com you may se some answers. He has a YT channel too by same name