Reincarnation is a Trap

[loady]

54 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

OK, call yourself asleep then. Happy?

That's some nice affirmation there.

 

its the truth, i rather not lie to myself. but i dont want to remain asleep. 

Edited July 13, 2022 by loady

[EnigmaticWorld]

9 minutes ago, loady said:

 stop it mate, none of us is near awake myself included.

 

Speak for yourself. I see the swindlers, their surnames, their phenotype, their talking points, and their disproportionate involvement in everything.

Edited July 13, 2022 by EnigmaticWorld

[loady]

22 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

 

This idea of being a prisoner of the collective consciousness is a bit flawed. Firstly it depends on WHO your collective is. If you surround yourself with those in tune with you then your consciousness is your own and not part of the mass  formation hypnosis. Believing that the acrchons or whatever other name is applied to the lizard formats, are the bad guys and are in control is just another form of mass formation psychology. DO you work for the CIA by any chance??

 

as of now the way humanity have been programmed we create reality on an individual level ,in small collective groups ( thats what enabling me to respond to you right now!!!)

and trough what the the majority of us are subconsiously programmed to enact as matrix script - e.g weather,lifespans,technology and science etc.. all those levels are entangled  with eachother.

the reptilians are spirit energy not unlike us only that we have been put under a very very heavy trance trough thier craftiness due to thier residation in a higher realm of consiousness. their cosmic id and their singature energy is that of a reptilian since that totem and symbolism best represent thier core energy and intent. that is also the shape they take when they want  to anchor or establish a god/slave relationship with other soul groups memory consiousness from other worlds.  its a form that our subconsiousness can easily recognise  and thus give energy to when we are prompted and  lured to do so trough rituals and mind trickery.  

 

edit: the reptilians can take any shape they want

ive already mentioned it prior in this thread if you didnt pay attention

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by loady

[loady]

 

8 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Speak for yourself. I see the swindlers, their surnames, their phenotype, their talking points, and their disproportionate involvement in everything.

 

only a slave who dont percieve himself as being one wants to continue being one. your far far far and FAAAAR FROM BRING AWAKE.

[EnigmaticWorld]

Just now, loady said:

 

 

only a slave who dont percieve himself as being one wants to continue being one. your far far far and FAAAAR FROM BRING AWAKE.

 

Have people never been awake in your opinion? Were my ancestors that knew about these people also asleep? Of course not, it's just the average person in the current age has cultural amnesia, or they enjoy being cattle.

[Gremmels]

16 hours ago, JCP said:

 

The video references Alex Grey and it appears that he is New Age. After reading RobinJ's comment I decided to dig deeper. This is what I found:

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't see where any part of the video says we should support Alex Grey. It was literally just relaying his experience with him seeing the grid. Because that's what the video is about. It's not about whether you think someone is a a cult leader or a new age fraud or whatever. Barabra Marciniak is new agey too. Even Peggy Kane believes the Pleiadeans are our saviors and parts of Wes Penres theory is new agey as well. But it's not about that.

 

It's about evidence and theories that support the existence of a Frequency Fence around the earth. That's it. 

 

If you don't believe there is a frequency fence then fine, but bringing up something that has nothing to do with the video at all like him being a cult leader/fraud and acting as though that is somehow discredits the entire video because his particular experience was even mentioned shows no nuance in thought.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Gremmels

[loady]

32 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Have people never been awake in your opinion? Were my ancestors that knew about these people also asleep? Of course not, it's just the average person in the current age has cultural amnesia, or they enjoy being cattle.

 

all earths ancestors made a blood and spirit pact with various levels of the reptilian soul group consiousness, that is in part why humanity is so fucked. we stone those who try to free us and we protect those who enslaves us. nothing has changed since time began. the truth is that most of humanity want to be slaves  but when the shit  hit the fan they´ll be abonded and deserted only then will they realise  that they have been used as piped pipers  and channels that the reptilian can manipulate and POSSESS in order to enslave humanity (including themselves)

 

i think matt said the reptilians dont show themselvfes in their true chosen  image becuse we would  not worship them if they did  - so they use the middle men - the elite and the initiated man!

Edited July 13, 2022 by loady

[RobinJ]

Another problem is that even the new age thinkers do have some things right I suspect, so everyone is constantly wading through and unable to see the wood for the trees so to speak. new agers are not bad people, they just refuse to see what is coming in most cases and are too hyper focussed on their own concepts and unable to see outside that or even debate some may be wrong. 

[loady]

Just now, RobinJ said:

Another problem is that even the new age thinkers do have some things right I suspect, so everyone is constantly wading through and unable to see the wood for the trees so to speak. new agers are not bad people, they just refuse to see what is coming in most cases and are too hyper focussed on their own concepts and unable to see outside that or even debate some may be wrong. 

 

well you fall under being one due to thinking your fully awake, i think you just prolonged my life a tad trough the contributed laughter, thx mate.

[EnigmaticWorld]

4 minutes ago, loady said:

 

well you fall under being one due to thinking your fully awake, i think you just prolonged my life a tad trough the contributed laughter, thx mate.

 

Dude you bang on about reptilians but ignore an actual group that openly talks about putting the boot on our necks. Give me a break.

[Gremmels]

17 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Hmm. personally I dont believe there is a net or grid keeping us in. It sounds more like another fear technique pushed on the new agers. All of the images and film are way too indistinct to make anything of them. Could have been filmed by a load of kids by the quality. Puts me in mind of the NASA images which just happen to be blurry 

I did watch some of that film, but its all unsubstantiated stuff from what I saw.

I have had a few astral projection trips and never seen a grid. We manifest our own belief system, if you want to believe you are trapped, then you most likely will be.

 

This force field was confirmed by MIT scientists back in 2014 and the grid in the sky has been seen by countless people.

 

This is the second time I've heard people say that because they astral project and never have seen the grid that means it doesn't exist. You never seeing something is not evidence of it not existing. I've been leaving my body since I was 15 and never saw it either. However, many other people have. 

 

Where did I say I want to believe that we're trapped? Does David Icke want to believe that we're trapped because of the information he uncovered about Reptilians trapping us in this hologram? No. He's just relaying the information he found. 

 

How do you explain the random people who have seen this grid and have no idea about the "prison planet" theory ( or beliefs in the 'paranormal') in general? How do they want to "be trapped" when they aren't even aware of this theory to begin with?

 

You're obviously free not to believe in any of this however, the truth doesn't change just because you don't believe it. 

[Gremmels]

On 7/12/2022 at 2:09 AM, Talorgan said:

If there is such a fence then answer is to raise ones frequency beyond the size of it's net ? 

 

 

Yes. This is a FREQUENCY Prison. They transmit dissonant frequencies at us from Saturn. David Icke talks about the Saturn-Moon Matrix. This is what's holding the Frequency Fence/Frequency Prison in place.

 

Therefore, the solution is to vibrate above the frequencies they're transmitting at us.

Edited July 13, 2022 by Gremmels

[loady]

10 minutes ago, EnigmaticWorld said:

 

Dude you bang on about reptilians but ignore an actual group that openly talks about putting the boot on our necks. Give me a break.

 

its futile to overthrow elites and royality  when thier masters are plotting and scheming in the unseen , simply becuse the slain will more often than not reincarnate into position  of power in a future incarnation and even if they dont the reptilians will just replace them - there are lots and lots of folks on the planet willing to sell thier own mothers for some power and status. the point being that its futile to attack the leaves of a tree if the root remains intact , new leafes will just spring to frutition and none is the fucking wiser.

Edited July 13, 2022 by loady

[Gremmels]

2 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

 

I reckon, if it is EMF then we need to learn to go beyond time and space realm.

Zero-point field (dark energy, dark matter), the centre point of number 8 is beyond time and space realm and it's a portal, it's all existence. We have this within ourselves. We are finite being as far as body is concerned but also infinite at the same time if you become smaller and smaller into infinity.

Obviously I will not know whether the grid is an EMF net until I get there but if we learn to access zero-point now, when we lose our physical bodies, we could transportate ourselves out of this realm just like UFO does. You are not bound by distance or time. If you are reading this in your home in New York, for example, you could be in Sydney at the same time on energetic level. Remember protons can exist in two places hence there is a topic of doppelganger.

 

EDIT: OK, so the clue is "once you go over the speed of light, you exit the Matrix".

When you teleport, it's instantaneous. You don't travel at the speed of light.

We need to start practising teleportation and be two places at the same time.

 

If Faraday cage is trapping you, then you need to make yourself smaller (shapeshift) than the holes so that you can escape through the hole.

 

https://youtu.be/YdmFXj4vkCI?t=331

 

 

Leaving through the holes in the Frequency Fence is not the only option. Yes, teleportation is an option. You do this by creating your own portals and leaving the matrix that way.

[Ankela]

8 minutes ago, Gremmels said:

 

Leaving through the holes in the Frequency Fence is not the only option. Yes, teleportation is an option. You do this by creating your own portals and leaving the matrix that way.

Imagination is your gateway to freedom. It means that you believe that everything is possible and indeed you only have to imagine it in order to make it real. :)

[Gremmels]

1 minute ago, Ankela said:

Imagination is your gateway to freedom. It means that you believe that everything is possible and indeed you only have to imagine it in order to make it real. :)

 

True. Imagination is our power. That's actually how you create portals to leave the matrix. With visualization and intention. Just like you'd manifest anything else. Only difference is manifestation occurs instantaneously outside the body. Anyone that has left their body knows this.

[DaleP]

31 minutes ago, loady said:

 

well you fall under being one due to thinking your fully awake, i think you just prolonged my life a tad trough the contributed laughter, thx mate.

 

Yet you have cancelled out the goodness just now by being egoistic.

[loady]

1 minute ago, DaleP said:

 

Yet you have cancelled out the goodness just now by being egoistic.

 

just after i entered send post it hit me - the hell do i want i prolonged life in this hellish matrix:)

[DaleP]

20 minutes ago, Gremmels said:

 

 

Yes. This is a FREQUENCY Prison. They transmit dissonant frequencies at us from Saturn. David Icke talks about the Saturn-Moon Matrix. This is what's holding the Frequency Fence/Frequency Prison in place.

 

Therefore, the solution is to vibrate above the frequencies they're transmitting at us.

In a way, this frequency prison cage is no different than being surrounded by negative family or work colleagues.

You may not have a choice right now to move out of the circle but you can still have a chuckle and think differently (you still have choice to be with their frequency level OR see a funny side or whatever your choice and have fun, joy surrounded by negative one). By practising this, you will be immune to negativity people throw at you and the frequency prison cage.

[Gremmels]

1 minute ago, DaleP said:

In a way, this frequency prison cage is no different than being surrounded by negative family or work colleagues.

You may not have a choice right now to move out of the circle but you can still have a chuckle and think differently (you still have choice to be with their frequency level OR see a funny side or whatever your choice and have fun, joy surrounded by negative one). By practising this, you will be immune to negativity people throw at you and the frequency prison cage.

 

I think a good method is to shield yourself with a "force field" and just mentally prepare to be around toxic people. They can only effect you if you let them.

 But yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I struggle with this. It's hard & definitely a work in progress.

 

The only difference with the actual frequency fence is it's held together by our collective consciousness & group subconscious. So while an individual may be awake and vibrating at a high frequency, they can still be overwhelmed by the majority of frequencies around them from everyone else who isn't.  Therefore, the hologram still exists and they're still held in it, including the awakened individual. Because if all it took was for an individual to awaken and vibrate at a high frequency then wouldn't they immediately leave frequency prison because their frequency no longer resonates with the distorted Saturn frequency? That's what makes me think it has to do with the collective consciousness. But obviously it still starts with the individual and we must all as individuals awaken because that's the only way to change the collective consciousness.

 

Just some food for thought.

[RobinJ]

46 minutes ago, Gremmels said:

 

This force field was confirmed by MIT scientists back in 2014 and the grid in the sky has been seen by countless people.

 

This is the second time I've heard people say that because they astral project and never have seen the grid that means it doesn't exist. You never seeing something is not evidence of it not existing. I've been leaving my body since I was 15 and never saw it either. However, many other people have. 

 

Where did I say I want to believe that we're trapped? Does David Icke want to believe that we're trapped because of the information he uncovered about Reptilians trapping us in this hologram? No. He's just relaying the information he found. 

 

How do you explain the random people who have seen this grid and have no idea about the "prison planet" theory ( or beliefs in the 'paranormal') in general? How do they want to "be trapped" when they aren't even aware of this theory to begin with?

 

You're obviously free not to believe in any of this however, the truth doesn't change just because you don't believe it. 

 

Scientists lie. Thats a fact. The 'truth' is subjective, the only fact is worth noting is that no one person knows the truth because there are too many lies mixed in and timeline changes to muddy the waters. People can collectively believe they have covid, does not make it truth. 

[RobinJ]

58 minutes ago, loady said:

 

well you fall under being one due to thinking your fully awake, i think you just prolonged my life a tad trough the contributed laughter, thx mate.

 

You choose to misinterpret many things people say, thereby causing arguments. I do not claim to be fully awake, I mean that in relation to others around me and the amount of research I have done. Unlike you, I dont claim to know all the answers, I simply seek to share my experience so that others will feel more free to share those, and in doing so, maybe we can all learn from each other instead of needing to be right with our view point.

Thanks for your patronising reply. If you are so enlightened and have all the answers, then why do you feel the need to be patronising? Not a very advanced form of communication.

[Gremmels]

16 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

 

Scientists lie. Thats a fact. The 'truth' is subjective, the only fact is worth noting is that no one person knows the truth because there are too many lies mixed in and timeline changes to muddy the waters. People can collectively believe they have covid, does not make it truth. 

 

No. The truth is not subjective. You can have different perceptions and perceptions control your reality but the truth remains the truth whether you believe it or not. Which is why people can believe they have Covid but that doesn't make it true, because the actual truth is Covid doesn't exist. Meaning there is truth, and it doesn't depend on your beliefs.

 

You contradicted yourself without even realizing it.

 

It's funny you criticize new agers yet still repeat the same lies that they do such as the truth being subjective and contingent on your beliefs.

 

Also, you say scientists lie. And sure. I agree with that. Agenda pushers lie. But what agenda would MIT scientists have for saying a force field exists back in 2014? No agenda was furthered in that case and it was minor news.

 

And what about all the people who have actually seen the grid? Are they lying too?

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by Gremmels

[loady]

13 hours ago, RobinJ said:

heh! yeah well I can tell ya since being close to many freedom groups over the last 2 years ( sorry its a bit off topic for this thread...) that there are 4 basic types of 'freedom' folks:

1. those who are hyper-focused - natural health is a big one / crypto fanatics- all to the exclusion of other stuff except covid or conspiracy stuff/ info junkies who cant move forward 

2. Anarchists- who are basically stuck in anger mode and of no use to anyone including themselves as they just want to argue

3. the new age spiritual types who think yoga and smoothies will solve all the worlds problems

4. The rest of use who have had a genuine spiritual awakening and are also fully awake but not fixated on just that

Finding number 4's is very difficult. I would say maybe only 10% are in that category. very frustrating.

 

it would certaintly help your cause if you  stoped wording things like diarrhea 

 

[Origin]

I think that no one can awake completely. Even the process is more than relative. In the end you will discover that you can't do anything about what awaits you in the final outcome. That will not be decided by Humans. The true appearance of the so-called grid is far stranger than has been captured by cameras so far. It was an infinitesimally tiny fragment of something much more complicated. A glimpse that humans perceive it at all.