Reincarnation is a Trap

[loady]

43 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Well that was a very convoluted way of saying that you believe this is all a cycle and that we are just resetting the same cycle again. I personally don't believe that is the case. Yes, it may well be a cycle, but its and end not a continuum IMHO.

no im saying the serpent cult programmed that belief into the collective subconsiousness. i dont believe the serpent cult created anything, as i said i have filtered out thier creation myths so they dont apply to me, however im still under their spell just as you are, except i wasnt  ever so daft as to buy into an "ascension", stop projecting your own gullibilty and bullshit upon me.  youll have better luck at the scented  candle club, with the faries there mate.  edit: its not an exact replica cycle. its an replica cycle of enslavement - when we vote in order out of chaos symbology to rule us in yet another age - the serpent can decide how that creation is going to turn out.  one one level of interpretation  chaos  equals the serpent controlling  infinite potential  order equals the serpent manifesting what they want in accordance to thier agenda from that infinite potential.

43 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

 

Perhaps you should try and seek more than this one Delooze persons perspective. Can't say Ive ever heard of him, but you constantly quote him like he is the only bastion of truth. In fact what you are doing is basing your belief system on a single opinion, which must have at some point resonated with you on some level because it motivated you to adopt it.

i have, i started out a muslim, i then became a christian , then a buddhist, followed by buying into the new age love and candle sham, followed by being an ateist until my life experiences made  me hit a brickwall and  i couldnt lie to myself anymore. ive had  quite a dynamic journey where i have remained open and flexible not letting my stagnant belief systems prevent me from adopting new truthful information when it was presented to me, whats wrong ROBIN , "your silly ego is hurt for believing in an airy fairy ascension eh, dont let of your anger and frustration over being daft spill over upon myself for enlightening you becuse the way i see it i did you a huge favour showing you (trough matthew delooze)   how you were conned into beliving the complete opposite of what really occured ( enslavement instead of of an ascension)

43 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

I prefer to keep nimble, keep learning and challenging both my own and others ideas as new information is revealed and to feel my way through this transition with the guides I am given and the information I am shown or led to.

 

By the way, if you are angry constantly then you cannot be as evolved as you like to think you are, no matter what knowledge you may think you have. Moving past anger ( = stage one of loss in psychology) should be a primary goal for any form of further enlightenment. 

 

perhaps your better off spreading your  bullshit new age psychology to those who believe to have  ascended, i know  how to keep my heart strong and motivate it by intent - no matter the nature of the feeling. 

 

enjoy your ascension to the 5th and sixth dimension  in the midst of  spreading complete garabe on david icke ...

 

 

Edited June 23, 2022 by loady

[Talorgan]

If Reality is infinite then it is infinitely more expansive that the most powerful AI could ever be .

So if we are part of this outside time or all time infinite awareness then any condensing into matter is transitory

 

[loady]

1 hour ago, RobinJ said:

Well that was a very convoluted way of saying that you believe this is all a cycle and that we are just resetting the same cycle again. I personally don't believe that is the case. Yes, it may well be a cycle, but its and end not a continuum IMHO.

 

Perhaps you should try and seek more than this one Delooze persons perspective. Can't say Ive ever heard of him, but you constantly quote him like he is the only bastion of truth. In fact what you are doing is basing your belief system on a single opinion, which must have at some point resonated with you on some level because it motivated you to adopt it.

 

I prefer to keep nimble, keep learning and challenging both my own and others ideas as new information is revealed and to feel my way through this transition with the guides I am given and the information I am shown or led to.

 

By the way, if you are angry constantly then you cannot be as evolved as you like to think you are, no matter what knowledge you may think you have. Moving past anger ( = stage one of loss in psychology) should be a primary goal for any form of further enlightenment. 

 

im sorry Robin, i let some of my anger spill over you. i apologise, my behaviour was uncalled for.

Edited June 23, 2022 by loady

[KingKitty]

On 6/23/2022 at 11:44 AM, Talorgan said:

If Reality is infinite then it is infinitely more expansive that the most powerful AI could ever be .

So if we are part of this outside time or all time infinite awareness then any condensing into matter is transitory

 

What is reality? Can you define it? Can you prove it? More importantly, do you know where the restroom is around here? I've had a lot of coffee this morning.

[Talorgan]

It's states of awareness outside the control grid.

Or natural be in g ,or the awakening from a dream,

Or who knows what ,imagination ,esp ,natural human being

 

 

 

[kd7one]

Reincarnation is the faster way we spiritually progress. 

We don't have to reincarnate, but as a result, we will not progress as fast.

[KingKitty]

2 hours ago, kd7one said:

Reincarnation is the faster way we spiritually progress. 

We don't have to reincarnate, but as a result, we will not progress as fast.

Faster? This implies time. There is no time. 

 

[Gremmels]

There is a Frequency Fence around the planet designed to keep us from leaving the Matrix. This is another way they keep us trapped here.

 

 

[Talorgan]

If there is such a fence then answer is to raise ones frequency beyond the size of it's net ? 

[RobinJ]

Hmm. personally I dont believe there is a net or grid keeping us in. It sounds more like another fear technique pushed on the new agers. All of the images and film are way too indistinct to make anything of them. Could have been filmed by a load of kids by the quality. Puts me in mind of the NASA images which just happen to be blurry 

I did watch some of that film, but its all unsubstantiated stuff from what I saw.

I have had a few astral projection trips and never seen a grid. We manifest our own belief system, if you want to believe you are trapped, then you most likely will be.

[JCP]

17 hours ago, Gremmels said:

There is a Frequency Fence around the planet designed to keep us from leaving the Matrix. This is another way they keep us trapped here.

 

 

 

The video references Alex Grey and it appears that he is New Age. After reading RobinJ's comment I decided to dig deeper. This is what I found:

 

 

 

[RobinJ]

Well, this is the problem with 'following' people. It's almost like we have forgotten how to stand in our own truth, as opposed to someone elses idea of it.

Since the whole covid malarky I have gradually stopped routinely listening to the gurus in the freedom media, because, the truth is that nobody knows the truth.

 

I understand that at the beginning of waking up ( especially to spiritual stuff) there is a point where you just want to share stuff like crazy because you just cant believe what you are hearing, experiencing or seeing. However, the problem with many 'truthers' is that they do it for clicks/ money and hence sensationalism can get the better of them.

 

Personally I feel we ALL have a part to play ( the real humans that is!).

The way I see it is that it is like a giant puzzle. We all have at least a piece, some have a few pieces, some have many pieces, but ultimately they all fit together IF we can share our experiences and compare notes so that we can keep our giant list of experiences collated. So, instead of going down endless rabbit holes and traps which are largely set by the spooks, maybe what we should be doing is comparing notes while we still have a relatively useful internet to do it easily and so we can keep the human knowledge library from dying out for those that come after us.

[Bombadil]

13 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Well, this is the problem with 'following' people. It's almost like we have forgotten how to stand in our own truth, as opposed to someone elses idea of it.

Since the whole covid malarky I have gradually stopped routinely listening to the gurus in the freedom media, because, the truth is that nobody knows the truth.

 

I understand that at the beginning of waking up ( especially to spiritual stuff) there is a point where you just want to share stuff like crazy because you just cant believe what you are hearing, experiencing or seeing. However, the problem with many 'truthers' is that they do it for clicks/ money and hence sensationalism can get the better of them.

 

Personally I feel we ALL have a part to play ( the real humans that is!).

The way I see it is that it is like a giant puzzle. We all have at least a piece, some have a few pieces, some have many pieces, but ultimately they all fit together IF we can share our experiences and compare notes so that we can keep our giant list of experiences collated. So, instead of going down endless rabbit holes and traps which are largely set by the spooks, maybe what we should be doing is comparing notes while we still have a relatively useful internet to do it easily and so we can keep the human knowledge library from dying out for those that come after us.

I’ve always found with so called New Age types that at first they’re ok then if you start to question anything they turn unpleasant pretty quickly. Used to know a guy who could “see” Native American spirit guides. He licked to tell everyone who theirs was. I only asked if there were any spirit guides who weren’t well known. He got rather pissed off.

[novymir]

2 hours ago, Bombadil said:

I’ve always found with so called New Age types that at first they’re ok then if you start to question anything they turn unpleasant pretty quickly. Used to know a guy who could “see” Native American spirit guides. He licked to tell everyone who theirs was. I only asked if there were any spirit guides who weren’t well known. He got rather pissed off.

That's pretty much the majority of humans. Challenge anyone's cherished beliefs and fantasies, investments, , intentional or not, and they'll turn on the perceived threat like a cyborg killing machine...

Most humans are probably operating at 10-20% real, and 80-90% fake. That's why they're here, and they don't like it if anyone tries to burst their bubble. Which I do not do.

[RobinJ]

2 hours ago, Bombadil said:

I’ve always found with so called New Age types that at first they’re ok then if you start to question anything they turn unpleasant pretty quickly. Used to know a guy who could “see” Native American spirit guides. He licked to tell everyone who theirs was. I only asked if there were any spirit guides who weren’t well known. He got rather pissed off.

heh! yeah well I can tell ya since being close to many freedom groups over the last 2 years ( sorry its a bit off topic for this thread...) that there are 4 basic types of 'freedom' folks:

1. those who are hyper-focused - natural health is a big one / crypto fanatics- all to the exclusion of other stuff except covid or conspiracy stuff/ info junkies who cant move forward 

2. Anarchists- who are basically stuck in anger mode and of no use to anyone including themselves as they just want to argue

3. the new age spiritual types who think yoga and smoothies will solve all the worlds problems

4. The rest of use who have had a genuine spiritual awakening and are also fully awake but not fixated on just that

Finding number 4's is very difficult. I would say maybe only 10% are in that category. very frustrating.

Edited July 13, 2022 by RobinJ

[Talorgan]

Yes these are interesting times , 

it's like keeping an open mind   (eg avoiding toxins etc )but questioning everything at same time

 

[loady]

we should have someone analysing those who analyse others,becuse there are some seriously deluded folks in here. no one in here is anyone near awake and the fact that they are under false perceived notions even though they experience how controlled they are in every day life is down rigth scary and sadly tragic. 

 

5: infotainment  as a way of escapism and projecting and letting of some steam  after they have enslaved  for the serpent the greater part of the day.

 

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by loady

[DaleP]

On 6/7/2022 at 10:01 PM, loady said:

“ 1. We are continuously programmed to think that our death will lead to a certain type of epiphany.

2. When we die we transform into another dimension.

3.The people in the spirit world are just as stupid as the ones in this one if spirits channelling through spiritualist mediums are anything to go by.

4. In the Spirit World we are still under the same hypnosis and the same mind control whilst ‘alive’ in this world.

5. We meet deceptive entities or deceptive scenarios that lead us to eventually reincarnate back into this world. (We never really left the world of serpent control)

6. Most conspiracy researchers seem to believe the ‘conspiracy ends’ at the time of death as long as we feel spiritually uplifted and see a bloody light. (Let’s end all conspiracy theories now then!)”

 

I agree with you that people don't become all enlightened just because they died and they will still be in the illusion.

BUT RobinJ precisely read my mind. So @loady let's see this spell you talk about. We'll have a looook and make comments. I reckon it's nothing other than what we already do naturally.

 

On 6/8/2022 at 12:30 AM, RobinJ said:

So, after that extremely long repetitive description, at the end you say a time is coming for change and to break free should you wish it, by doing what exactly? A few simple words will do. I have my own ideas on this, so I am curious

 

On 6/9/2022 at 1:45 AM, RobinJ said:

Whilst this may be true from the past, personally, from what Ive been shown via visions etc I believe this is not 'just another cycle.'  This is an endgame type cycle similar to what happened before with Atlantis / Egypt era/ Mexico etc.

Cataclysmic events which also coincide with the further control of humanity. I feel they are running side by side.

Those who are truly awake to their human core abilities will move forward, many will be removed. Ultimately this will make the human species stronger.

Finally, the Archons will no longer be in control

 

Time is fractal. It may not repeat exactly the same but rhyme. This may be endgame but a chapter and not THE END.

 

On 6/10/2022 at 2:21 PM, Youknownothingbutyou said:

reincarnation is the result of craving

 

if, at the time of death, in your mind, you still desire to be or not to be, you will be reincarnated

 

its all related to how far you are in the path of letting the self illusion go

 

reincarnation is not a trap, its a mere consequences of your own mind-dellusion

 

These days, I am becoming rather undesirable. Yeah, still strive to make money or learning but hey when the time comes, drop everything and let's go!

[DaleP]

On 7/12/2022 at 6:19 AM, Gremmels said:

There is a Frequency Fence around the planet designed to keep us from leaving the Matrix. This is another way they keep us trapped here.

 

 

 

On 7/12/2022 at 8:09 AM, Talorgan said:

If there is such a fence then answer is to raise ones frequency beyond the size of it's net ? 

 

I reckon, if it is EMF then we need to learn to go beyond time and space realm.

Zero-point field (dark energy, dark matter), the centre point of number 8 is beyond time and space realm and it's a portal, it's all existence. We have this within ourselves. We are finite being as far as body is concerned but also infinite at the same time if you become smaller and smaller into infinity.

Obviously I will not know whether the grid is an EMF net until I get there but if we learn to access zero-point now, when we lose our physical bodies, we could transportate ourselves out of this realm just like UFO does. You are not bound by distance or time. If you are reading this in your home in New York, for example, you could be in Sydney at the same time on energetic level. Remember protons can exist in two places hence there is a topic of doppelganger.

 

EDIT: OK, so the clue is "once you go over the speed of light, you exit the Matrix".

When you teleport, it's instantaneous. You don't travel at the speed of light.

We need to start practising teleportation and be two places at the same time.

 

If Faraday cage is trapping you, then you need to make yourself smaller (shapeshift) than the holes so that you can escape through the hole.

 

https://youtu.be/YdmFXj4vkCI?t=331

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by DaleP

[novymir]

This world is like a little wart on the greater infinite body of consciousness. A tiny part of that consciousness willed to separate and "create" apart from the whole(Holy), this thing(wart-world/matrix) is the result.

 

To exit one needs to re-establish conscious contact with the Greater part that is ruled by TRUTH and only TRUTH. To do that requires ego-deflation/suspension, the ego idea of self is diametrically the opposite of The Real.

 

The sun is not a burning ball in the sky, it is the hole or portal, The Way out= The Son, that is The Truth and is ruled by THE TRUTH(THE ONE).

 

Kind of like "The Truman Show", except this "world" is ruled by anti-Christ ( Kristoff=Christ-off= anti-Christ= ego. Imposter-god-fraud.

 

In that way It(the Greater Consciousness) is like our big brother, because we have imposed a littleness and limitation upon ourselves, that can only be undone by TRUTH-Truth-truths. And this is "Amazing Grace".

 

We are a part of The Son of GOD(Infinite Consciousness-Creation) that willed to be separate and apart from the whole.

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by novymir

[loady]

Hey Dale im under no delsuion of thinking to myself that im awake, in fact far from it, i dont suffer from dunner kruger effect, or denial. im thick as an ape and im the first to admit that im under a very very heavy multidimensionell hypnosis, its called being real and honest as oppossed to the delusional drones who think they are "fully awake"

[DaleP]

21 minutes ago, loady said:

Hey Dale im under no delsuion of thinking to myself that im awake, in fact far from it, i dont suffer from dunner kruger effect, or denial. im thick as an ape and im the first to admit that im under a very very heavy multidimensionell hypnosis, its called being real and honest as oppossed to the delusional drones who think they are "fully awake"

 

We are awake but in different degrees of it. Each to their own practise.

Now, show us the spell you talked about. Just curious if this guy is legit.

[loady]

37 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

We are awake but in different degrees of it. Each to their own practise.

Now, show us the spell you talked about. Just curious if this guy is legit.

 stop it mate, none of us is near awake myself included. its not for the good of thy healt or my health to log into davidicke to read "infotainment" to get our fix" i myself have been guilty of doing so from time to time. if the gurus tell  us that we are allknowing and awake what the effin fook are we doing on a david icke forum posting mostly infotainment then eh? , what can we possibly learn from doing so  if were already fully awake, and dont claim  the enlightened click are trying to enlighten others becuse those very same others  are as confused as ever and log in frequently to read davidicke aswell it would me more accurate to say that we are confusing eachother more on top of the confusion we already are under.

 

no such thing as partly awake, and that wasnt what i was responding to begin with , i only claimed and truthfully so that noone in here is anywhere near  "fully awake". even top level royality are under a heavy spell themselves (need to know basis kind of spell)  and they are atleast 50  solid shades deeper in awareness than every single one of us.

but if  you honestly want to see if matt is legit,ill post some of his articles below so you could come to your own conclusion mate, i have posted some of my one stuff aswell prior not just matthew delooze stuff (but my own stuff is kindergarten level stuff compared to mats content.)

 

some novice level  matthew delooze article`s

http://www.illuminati-news.com/pdf/LiveEarth.pdf

https://www.docdroid.net/ldCjp6L/matthewdelooze-superman-the-real-symbolism-docx?fbclid=IwAR3YJnVPjcBcuoVcJ0iV_yqFurg5oXqZJBge83UPAKeFNaUiTGjuDLfsnYo

https://www.docdroid.net/L3IZ44M/186667390-diana-can-you-see-the-real-me-pdf#page= (must read article) 

https://www.docdroid.net/1vsppjN/matthewdelooze-rememberance-day-exposed-docx?fbclid=IwAR0-xuRcbc5j3gzzimRhK0Vk5OsZXP_TCP0nm3RkGrKF8Ml_F8R1Yw8O-OE

https://www.docdroid.net/3VoPxra/matthewdelooze-spitting-out-the-feathers-of-the-benu-bird-docx?fbclid=IwAR0UO9HD6QS8qXtx_cs3_zYoDlBT48Wu_M1IoYYInuxTz0Ih56i9WJli6Kg

https://www.docdroid.net/Ck0GiL1/matthewdelooze-ill-take-it-what-is-it-docx?fbclid=IwAR0bjMJscPL-wmh2Qlp2yTaNYoRxp7irrq9OPHyWzJlo0TcRe2I3isQOwzc

https://www.docdroid.net/x3aTxSH/matthewdelooze-g20-demonstrations-1-docx?fbclid=IwAR2BxbJjL2uRMVVPO2P0yxfy-D54ITxHWIjfSkTJQL7vBZn13p1ybPEzkwg

https://www.docdroid.net/jAcNxcm/zion-docx

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Edited July 13, 2022 by loady

[DaleP]

4 minutes ago, loady said:

 stop it mate, none of us is near awake myself included. its not for the good of thy healt or my health to log into davidicke to read "infotainment" to get our fix" i myself have been guilty of doing so from time to time. if the gurus tell  us that we are allknowing and awake what the effin fook are we doing on a david icke forum posting mostly infotainment then eh? , what can we possibly learn from doing so  if were already fully awake, and dont claim  the enlightened click are trying to enlighten others becuse those very same others  are as confused as ever and log in frequently to read davidicke aswell it would me more accurate to say that we are confusing eachother more on top of the confusion we already are under.

 

no such thing as partly awake, and that wasnt what i was responding to bein with , i only claimed and truthfully so that noone in here is anywhere near  "fully awake". even top level royality are under a heavy spell themselves (need to know basis kind of spell)  and they are atleast 50  solid shades deeper in awareness than every single one of us.

but if your honestly legit to see if matt is legit,ill post some of his articles below so you could come to your own conclusion mate, i have posted some of my one stuff aswell prior not just matthew delooze stuff (but my own stuff is kindergarten level stuff compared to mats content.)

 

some novice level  matthew delooze article`s

http://www.illuminati-news.com/pdf/LiveEarth.pdf

https://www.docdroid.net/ldCjp6L/matthewdelooze-superman-the-real-symbolism-docx?fbclid=IwAR3YJnVPjcBcuoVcJ0iV_yqFurg5oXqZJBge83UPAKeFNaUiTGjuDLfsnYo

https://www.docdroid.net/L3IZ44M/186667390-diana-can-you-see-the-real-me-pdf#page= (must read article) 

https://www.docdroid.net/1vsppjN/matthewdelooze-rememberance-day-exposed-docx?fbclid=IwAR0-xuRcbc5j3gzzimRhK0Vk5OsZXP_TCP0nm3RkGrKF8Ml_F8R1Yw8O-OE

https://www.docdroid.net/3VoPxra/matthewdelooze-spitting-out-the-feathers-of-the-benu-bird-docx?fbclid=IwAR0UO9HD6QS8qXtx_cs3_zYoDlBT48Wu_M1IoYYInuxTz0Ih56i9WJli6Kg

https://www.docdroid.net/Ck0GiL1/matthewdelooze-ill-take-it-what-is-it-docx?fbclid=IwAR0bjMJscPL-wmh2Qlp2yTaNYoRxp7irrq9OPHyWzJlo0TcRe2I3isQOwzc

https://www.docdroid.net/x3aTxSH/matthewdelooze-g20-demonstrations-1-docx?fbclid=IwAR2BxbJjL2uRMVVPO2P0yxfy-D54ITxHWIjfSkTJQL7vBZn13p1ybPEzkwg

https://www.docdroid.net/jAcNxcm/zion-docx

 

OK, call yourself asleep then. Happy?

That's some nice affirmation there.

 

Basically what you are saying is there is only 0s and 1s.

You either asleep or awake nothing inbetween.

Nature isn't like that.

I've never said we are fully awake. I said 'in different degrees' How about focus?

Edited July 13, 2022 by DaleP

[RobinJ]

On 6/21/2022 at 11:13 AM, loady said:

 

 let me remind you your still a prisoner of the collective subconsiousness and your still on earth. dont underestimate the power of the energies  that is created within it, becuse you do not live solely in your indivudal consiousness - you also exist in a small group consiousness and the collective subconsiousness at large all those levels are entangled with eachother im my opinion  - your connection to the collective subconsiousness and its eneergies that the serpent harvest out of us - was the very power that allowed your experience to appear overwhelming and beyond "human"

 

This idea of being a prisoner of the collective consciousness is a bit flawed. Firstly it depends on WHO your collective is. If you surround yourself with those in tune with you then your consciousness is your own and not part of the mass  formation hypnosis. Believing that the acrchons or whatever other name is applied to the lizard formats, are the bad guys and are in control is just another form of mass formation psychology. DO you work for the CIA by any chance??