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Manly P Hall was the only Freemason that I know of to understand the shape of the earth.

 

❝According to Pythagoras, the position of each body in the universe was determined by the essential dignity of that body. The popular concept of his day was that the Earth occupied the centre of the solar system; that the planets, including the Sun and Moon, moved about the Earth; and that the Earth itself was flat and square❞

Manly Palmer Hall

 

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7 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

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Extra Land/Earth = Extra-Terrestrial

 

Terrestrial derives from the Latin root terra, which means 'earth.' Of course, terrestrial refers to anything on or from the Earth.

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8 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Can you post a reference to this please. Otherwise it’s just a random picture. Artist or the like

yeah fair point bomb will have a look later and put one on, cheers.

Edit:  It seems to be from the New York Journal (when zooming in on the picture from earlier it's at the top of the picture)  It's an article exploring the possibility of flat earth, and mentiones a respected Professor William Carpenter and his experiments:
Video here:

 

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18 hours ago, endfreemasonscum said:

Do you have a reference for the "25 miles up?"

 

Fascinating yet again if true.

Sorry for the delay getting back to you Endfreemason, no mate, not a direct reference I'm sorry to say.
Looking through the replies on that twatter thread though, the original poster (from twttr) said it was from this video: 
(excuse the unnecessary lionking clip - why they choose to put this kind of crap onto an already interesting clip I just don't know?)
Actually - there is a toy lion at theend of a camera stick near the end of the clip - maybe that's why they did it?)



 

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John Kerry references Flat Earth (Rare Footage)

Why do these guys keep mentioning flat earth so much ?

 

John Kerry went to Antarctica a few years ago, supposedly to speak with scientists there about climate change, but I reckon us Flat Earther's all know why he really went there. 

 

And Dick Cheney insists the earth is flat.

 

 

 

 

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On 8/29/2022 at 2:31 PM, sickofallthebollocks said:

Sorry for the delay getting back to you Endfreemason, no mate, not a direct reference I'm sorry to say.
Looking through the replies on that twatter thread though, the original poster (from twttr) said it was from this video: 
(excuse the unnecessary lionking clip - why they choose to put this kind of crap onto an already interesting clip I just don't know?)
Actually - there is a toy lion at theend of a camera stick near the end of the clip - maybe that's why they did it?)

 

No problem, just that we have many examples from around 20 miles. The top image below is one of them...


https://stolenhistory.net/attachments/horizons-png.22111/

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Note: I didn't know exactly which thread of the two opposing camps to place this under so I contacted a moderator for advice. Although it was suggested that I could post my question in both of these threads, I've decided on this one only, since I kind of would like to get the flat-earthers input on the question I have more than anyone else on the forum.

 

Q: What to make of these portable devices called gravimeters? These are said to measure the gravitational pull on earth and hardened skeptics of the flat-earth theory often use this as a talking point in their attempts to debunk the theory.

 

I pose this question as one with one leg on a plane and the other on a planet, which is another way of saying, on this particular issue I'm a theory-straddler, as I don't adamantly defend/oppose either model and am merely wanting to learn more and to get the flat-earthers' take on this.

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17 hours ago, Hegel Schmegel said:

Note: I didn't know exactly which thread of the two opposing camps to place this under so I contacted a moderator for advice. Although it was suggested that I could post my question in both of these threads, I've decided on this one only, since I kind of would like to get the flat-earthers input on the question I have more than anyone else on the forum.

 

Q: What to make of these portable devices called gravimeters? These are said to measure the gravitational pull on earth and hardened skeptics of the flat-earth theory often use this as a talking point in their attempts to debunk the theory.

 

I pose this question as one with one leg on a plane and the other on a planet, which is another way of saying, on this particular issue I'm a theory-straddler, as I don't adamantly defend/oppose either model and am merely wanting to learn more and to get the flat-earthers' take on this.

If you are honestly interested I would recommended asking this on the ifers forum. They would probably ask if you really believe there are portable devices that prove that anything follows the curvature of space-time. And how exactly that one works. Has space-time been proven? Has gravity?

 

And to get back on topic here, this was just posted there and it seems pretty relevant to this thread.

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This is a simple observation that people are too afraid to trust themselves about. It's that water will always find its' level.
 

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That is to say, no matter if the bodies of waters are connected directly, there is a level even if you need to drill down.  It saturates the deepest levels of the know crust of our earth, just like the weight of the gases on the surface of water create the oceans level, so that ANYTHING connected to the ocean it touches is under water, where rivers meet bays.  And it means that the pressure of the ground, and the air WILL create waters' level. They are all connected, and cannot bent to gravity. water does not bent at the local level so, even if the gradual change in water pressure over vast distances were true, it would have to be true within 8 inches per mile squared (at least for the first 250 miles, then you need geometric algebra, but you don't need to go father that 10 miles to understand how impossible a globe would be.   8 per mile squared, is 32.6 feet CHANGE in water level in just 10 miles a 3-story building change in water level in only 10 miles is stupid.  we cant go on believing that nonsense. it would create a noticeable slope, and have you see the huge view on a clear day? Do you see a noticeable slope that big between two mountains that are 10 miles apart? Humans can see 120 degree span, that covers much more than 10 miles, anyone can observe, but 32 is not a huge slope...but it exponential...100 miles is more than a mile of slope, and in 360 degrees.   You gotta think about that one for for while.  That’s a HUGE slope 😉 and water is not rushing to one side not at 10 miles or 100...or down a stagnate 20 mile canal.  

does anyone really like to think of the science?  think of the water level at a micro local level, the H20 elements, and all the other elements find their balance, the point of least resistance, , eventually, always.  The elements, the compounds floating in it and blocking it, whatever, it responds to all other water molecules until its perfectly level for inches, feet, miles, etc.  

Think about what they expect us to believe at the micro level:
[water molecule]: "Ok, cool, I’m gonna just be ok with the other water squeezing my electronic field a little, not gonna obey the laws of physics for this bond because, gravity, I’ll just be cool not making an ideal molecule bond for all the other molecules around me because I'm not gonna follow that fundamental law of conservation of energy, because, its time to start wrapping around the globe."

I hope we all remember how water finds it level, at the micro and because of science of fucking water, which is super is to understand at this LEVEL.  Water does; ALWAYS finds a balance. It breaks mountains, glaciers and bedrock.  Its why there is no such barrier that can be made which can TRULY be called, waterproof.  Water has time; it's content with mountains and glaciers, so doesn't matter how long it has to deal with other pressures, it will always be a water level.  the point that water can’t do anything else, the molecular level is the “global” level…its not a ball, its flat as the ocean.  

We have to be confident in our knowledge fundamental science, of a truth you can observe and do need to take nobody's word for it. Earth truth leads us to the next truth, and the next.  It starts with realizing the level water means the next truth is that the earth is flat.  After that…I’m not sure who we should ask as to why they lied about this and the moon landings and all of space travel and Elon, wtf?!?!
 
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19 hours ago, Hegel Schmegel said:

Note: I didn't know exactly which thread of the two opposing camps to place this under so I contacted a moderator for advice. Although it was suggested that I could post my question in both of these threads, I've decided on this one only, since I kind of would like to get the flat-earthers input on the question I have more than anyone else on the forum.

 

Q: What to make of these portable devices called gravimeters? These are said to measure the gravitational pull on earth and hardened skeptics of the flat-earth theory often use this as a talking point in their attempts to debunk the theory.

 

I pose this question as one with one leg on a plane and the other on a planet, which is another way of saying, on this particular issue I'm a theory-straddler, as I don't adamantly defend/oppose either model and am merely wanting to learn more and to get the flat-earthers' take on this.

no one is denying that acceleration down to the ground exists but it doesn't prove gravity (the concept ) by using the name 'gravimeter'.

 

gravity is the completely unproven and never measured theoretical attraction of objects to each other

 

downward acceleration alternatively has been associated with the electro static charge in the air which is 100v per meter, increasing upwards. This is measured and provable.

There is no coincidence between downward acceleration and increasing upwards 100v / m

 

Ground is , well, ground

Up above us is the positive plate

We live within a field created

 

 

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4 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said:

Of course not proof as such here, but pointers to some very interesting biblical references to FE.
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Thanks sickofallthebollocks, the Bible is a true f/e book 👍 I particularly like Job 37: 10 :classic_biggrin:

 

 

 

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