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This topic has been created  to create a space where members can post and discuss their beliefs and evidence that the Earth is flat. 
The thread is only to discuss this particular view. Opposing views/beliefs/evidence can be posted in a newly created separate thread about the mainstream view of the Earth.

 

Amy member who does not follow these rules will be warned.

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As far back as the 50's they were blasting rockets full of aluminum & barium into space, which blasted a hole in the Ozone layer (strange how they would always blame us for this cock up). I was wondering if even then they were trying to blast through the Firmament/Dome ???? Using the excuse as weather modification. Is this why Wernher Von Braun had psalms 19:1 written on his grave stone ?

 

You can watch it all but I suggest you start watching this video at the 10 min mark

Aluminum, Barium, and Chemtrails From Space! 

 

 

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the earth is flat because a curve has never been measured.

a curve has been calculated but never measured

regardless of the ability to actually see the curve (Neil degrasse tyson says an observer has to be 100miles + up in sky) measuring a curve would be entirely possible if it existed and even after many years of flatearth chitter chatter not 1 single proof of curve has been provided by the WGS84 model crowd

'FE Core' did however measure a level earth across Lake Isjell https://fecore.org/category/projects/lake-ijssel/

 

 

 

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I have flown in a high speed aircraft at 60,000 ft back in 1996. And to be honest when i looked out of the plane window which was small and fairly thick glass there did seem to be a slight curve of the earth. This of course might be due to the very thick glass of the plane window. I don't know but i am open to both flat earth or ball theory.

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The earth is a circular stationary disc with boundary's as to let the seas go no further, plus there is a firmament above which houses the sun, moon & the stars.

This is Gods word & this is good enough for me.

 

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Greenland lost enough ice in just three days to cover the entire state of West Virginia with a FOOT of water after temperatures soared to 60F last month - 10 degrees warmer than normal 

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This 'spike melt,' from July 15 through 17, was due to temperatures being 10 degrees warmer than normal. During this time, Greenland's ice sheet lost 6 billion tons of water per day

 

🤣 All this is bloomin normal........

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Airys failure 1871 gives us proof the earth is stationary.

 

An experiment to measure stellar abberation inadvertently measured the earth does not spin.

 

https://wiki.tfes.org/Airy's_Failure

 

 

there are wgs84 responses to this situation however they rely solely upon Relativity which was disproven by sagnac experiment 1913 (wangs follow up) https://wiki.tfes.org/Sagnac_Experiment and the previous experiment by michelson morley 1887 https://wiki.tfes.org/Michelson-Morley_Experiment

 

 

 

 

these experiments are reproducable, their results still stand and used in combination provide a recognised basis however they are ignored and pooh poohed by the helio and wgs84  believers 

 

 

n.b

establishing a stationary and non spinning earth is not proof of a flat earth in and of themselves. A sphere requires a measurable curve, which there isnt. 

 

 

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2017 North American Solar Eclipse only works on a Level earth.

 

The finishing point of the eclipse would be spun too far around away from the Sun and Moon for it to occur on the mythical sphere model.

In 5 hrs the eclipse end point would (according to the globe model) have rotated 15 degrees x 5 hrs = 75 degrees from the start of the eclipse

 

short presentation , intro lasts 30 secs or so then it gets into it.

 

 

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Here are pictures of the Solar Eclipse using filters. The shape of the Sun is clear to see but the Moon is missing. There is nothing there 'eclipsing' the Sun.

It has been claimed that an object called Rahu however these images show there is nothing except the Sun shrinking.

 

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The moon has been shown many times to be translucent when waxing and stars have been identified through the supposedly solid object

 

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The moon is not a sphere.  The crescent shadow debunks the sphere myth. The shadow should change shape as it crosses a sphere. Real life experience shows us it is not a sphere and it is not a shadow causing the waxing, waning and 'eclipse'

 

 

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On 7/26/2022 at 1:23 PM, zArk said:

The moon is not a sphere.  The crescent shadow debunks the sphere myth. The shadow should change shape as it crosses a sphere. Real life experience shows us it is not a sphere and it is not a shadow causing the waxing, waning and 'eclipse'

 

 

 

Just finished the big 400 plus thread. You did well mate in such hostility. I wonder why this topic gets so many people in a tizzy. Let people believe what they want.

 

It's just a shame that these same people having a pop, see all the convid BS then go on to spout msm BS to back up their heliocentric beliefs. I for one am not a flat earther. I hate the pigeon hole. I can safely say that I am a geocentricist now. This vid you posted in other thread never got the attention it deserved. I wonder why the detractors never tried to explain or refute it.

 

 

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@Zark

 

Not sure if you aware of these sites. But this is how you have a proper adult discussion on the realm we inhabit.

 

Stolen history.net formally SH.org by Korben Dallas (very strange what happened to original site. Absolutely fabulous site for critical free thinkers.

https://stolenhistory.net/threads/flat-earth.3724/

 

Exposing NASA lies by Simon Shack at clues Forum. Whilst Simon is a geocentricist, he has put his eggs in the Tycho Brahe model. It's a invaluable site exposing NASA lies.

 

ISS fakery

 

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=720&sid=d9ea34f400d77e7921b18f0ca2d01e36

 

 

shuttle hoax

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=935&sid=d9ea34f400d77e7921b18f0ca2d01e36

 

 

Moon hoax

 

http://cluesforum.info/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=59&sid=d9ea34f400d77e7921b18f0ca2d01e36

 

 

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Couldn't  be any simpler really.

Two topics one topic for the globe heads to post .

One topic for the flat earthers to post on.

Its a great idea ,we get to see new ideas and experiments without being side tracked ,without people getting nasty and the whole thread being shut down, just as long as we stick to our lanes what can go wrong ???????????

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I guess I have to come in with my two.

 

On 7/21/2022 at 1:55 PM, Bombadil said:

This topic has been created  to create a space where members can post and discuss their beliefs and evidence that the Earth is flat. 
The thread is only to discuss this particular view. Opposing views/beliefs/evidence can be posted in a newly created separate thread about the mainstream view of the Earth.

 

Amy member who does not follow these rules will be warned.

I have to say, I think is a nice effort to open discussion on a topic that is clearly a hated topic, both by the mainstream and the conspiracy/truth world. With that said and clearly this is an improvement from the ex-mod team with regard to free political speech, I feel, after my short romp into this topic that it misses the point.

 

I feel if we can learn anything from the flat Earth movement, it is more to do with facts that prevent Earth from being a globe of the narratives dimensions, than its true physical shape. It appears and there is a massive amount of evidence that is presented by the flat Earth truthers that show this. At the same time look at these threads. With the exception of what zark posted regarding the fecore observations, nothing on either thread pertains to the topic at hand.

 

How do beliefs in orbiting satellites that provide data do this?

 

How does the supposed Eratosthenes observation that assumes a globe do this. This will happen on every post on the other thread. Every 'proof' must assume a globe up front. Or assume other things based solely on trusting the science. Or the thread will be blank and you will delete every post based on your original post.

 

This thread can be loaded with videos that I have posted on other thread, while at the same time will not be proof of a truly flat realm. Here is an example that I posted on another thread...

  

Thank-you for posting this. It was actually pretty good. They really hit all the points the internet experts harp on. I think I knew from studying these arguments from both sides, but what was very interesting for me was the part where we see the sun setting, the zoom is applied, and we then see how far above the horizon that the sun actually is. I am not sure there is a globe argument for that one, but I definitely  could have missed it.

 

The other thing I found interesting was right after, where we watch the sun set from a drone. The globe argument maintains that the sun does not change size in the sky and that it sets because we are rotating backwards. The flat earthers have claimed that it sets because it is moving away and getting smaller until it eventually vanishes. The video showing this really caught my eye and it is another giant indication that something is off.

 

This should begin at 1:11:30. Watch until 1:12:05...

 

The other thing I would mention is the black swan video odds mentioned where the horizon is clearly behind it all. None of that happens if our Earth were the size that they claim. The Chicago pic alone places our diameter somewhere past where they claim pour sun's is.

 

While none of this makes much sense, there are lies here that need to be exposed. The fact the nasa and supposedly other countries' space agencies show us the same crap is more problematic and a great indication that this needs to be looked at. Look at all the debunking sites. Why are they all nasa controlled op?

 

On 7/24/2022 at 10:35 AM, zArk said:

Airys failure 1871 gives us proof the earth is stationary.

 

An experiment to measure stellar abberation inadvertently measured the earth does not spin.

 

https://wiki.tfes.org/Airy's_Failure

 

 

there are wgs84 responses to this situation however they rely solely upon Relativity which was disproven by sagnac experiment 1913 (wangs follow up) https://wiki.tfes.org/Sagnac_Experiment and the previous experiment by michelson morley 1887 https://wiki.tfes.org/Michelson-Morley_Experiment

 

 

 

 

these experiments are reproducable, their results still stand and used in combination provide a recognised basis however they are ignored and pooh poohed by the helio and wgs84  believers 

 

 

n.b

establishing a stationary and non spinning earth is not proof of a flat earth in and of themselves. A sphere requires a measurable curve, which there isnt. 

 

 

This has nothing to do with Earth's shape, but is strong evidence that Earth does not move. The nasa shill site debunks are terrible on this point.

 

On 7/26/2022 at 5:59 AM, zArk said:

The moon has been shown many times to be translucent when waxing and stars have been identified through the supposedly solid object

 

moonstar.jpg.c64480fe3df43a6e001ba2ddfdd71f08.jpg

 

 

 

Fascinating.

 

14 hours ago, TheConsultant said:


I assume because there is nothing to refute as far as I can see. I see they crowbar Ken Wheeler in for good measure too.

Please Bom's post that began this thread. The shill stuff is not wanted here.

 

Without this trolling, we might have a decent thread. I feel to do this right we need a locked thread next to the nasa shill's at the top of this forum that simply shows the numerous reasons why it is impossible that we are on a gravity created sphere that flies through a vacuum, where gas giants exist, at unimaginable speeds and in several directions that can never be shown to exist. It will be far better than the fantasy created through false assumptions that the old mod team chose to lock at the top of this forum.

 

Later

 

 

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One more thing...

 

https://c.tadst.com/gfx/1200x675/day-night-map.png?1

 

This has been shown by flat Earthers to obviously disprove the globe. It is a perfect example of what I spoke of above. I have read the globe responses which clearly fail.

 

But that said, how the hell does any flat Earth model ever allow for this? If this should be on the globe thread, please feel free to move.

 

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19 minutes ago, endfreemasonscum said:

Please Bom's post that began this thread. The shill stuff is not wanted here.

 

Without this trolling, we might have a decent thread.


I was addressing one video specifically, not FE as a whole, this subject doesn't require being debunked or refuted. But throwing someone elses work in with this stuff is an insult to the man who discovered so much regarding magnetism and subjects related to magnetism. 

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JTolan

 

Using photogrammetry based on aerial 830nm IR images, we derive the curvature of the earth surface in the upper mid-west states to a stunning precision

 

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JTolan in comments ----- watch the 3D clip on a computer monitor, not a large TV, the spacing between red and blue is too wide and you won't perceive 3D] my spell checker failed , intro slide typo "Photogrametry" not Phtogrametry" grrrrrrr, let me know if you see any other typos, or errors. Maybe I'll upload a corrected one later. 23:25, if you noticed I adjusted the radius of the earth to 50 000 mi to try and curve fit the observed data, and the green line came up, (eventually, my computer was running slow and the update took a while) but even that value is not enough, the observed radius of curvature is more like 100 000 miles, but that's just because I did not fine tune the slope just perfectly, otherwise it would be INFINITE ! Just Incredible

 

 

 

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“What one man calls God, another calls the laws of physics.”
 Nikola Tesla

 

“Today’s scientists have substituted mathematics for experiments, and they wander off through equation after equation, and eventually build a structure which has no relation to reality. ”
 Nikola Tesla

 

“Einstein's relativity work is a magnificent mathematical garb which fascinates, dazzles and makes people blind to the underlying errors. The theory is like a beggar clothed in purple whom ignorant people take for a king... its exponents are brilliant men but they are metaphysicists rather than scientists.”
 Nikola Tesla

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And God said, “Let there be an expanse  in the midst of the waters, and let it separate the waters from the waters.” And God made the expanse and separated the waters that were under the expanse from the waters that were above the expanse. And it was so. And God called the expanse Heaven

 

 

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