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32 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

Hi Odds,

 

You need the defendant's address for the claim form and I would issue I'm your own court, not the CCMCC. You'll only delay matters when they transfer the case to your own court. 

 

To find your home court see here:

 

https://www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal

 

Just put don't know name

Money

Money 

Then your post code and this will give you the home court you require. 

 

If you're looking to issue, you need to follow CPR 7 for issuing claims. Particulars of claim might be quite tricky, hopefully you don't need to get that far because the protocol letter may well be enough for him to see that you're serious.

 

 

Cheers Morph, I have to send them a letter 1st.

What price do you reckon I should seek..top is 9k in court.

This has been continuous harassment & discrimination over two years, including a threatening letter from them for being rude to staff ending in refusal to enter surgery.

I am eligible under the equality act as disabled also.

I was thinking 3k, but for a quick settlement maybe 1k.

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58 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Cheers Morph, I have to send them a letter 1st.

What price do you reckon I should seek..top is 9k in court.

This has been continuous harassment & discrimination over two years, including a threatening letter from them for being rude to staff ending in refusal to enter surgery.

I am eligible under the equality act as disabled also.

I was thinking 3k, but for a quick settlement maybe 1k.

Dunno, good question. Could put £5k down and go to £1k if needs be. Just make sure you use the template letter quoting the relevant passages and that should get the ball rolling. 

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35 minutes ago, Morpheus said:

If he doesn't respond in 21 days, you can put them on notice to look really reasonable in the eyes of the court for say 7 days and if they don't respond you can issue straight away. 

Sorry I dont understand.. put them on notice?

Do I hand deliver or send recorded post & do I need copies.

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1 hour ago, oddsnsods said:

Sorry I dont understand.. put them on notice?

Do I hand deliver or send recorded post & do I need copies.

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Sorry. So you send your protocol letter which will state as per the protocol, they have 21 days to respond to your claim. If they don't, by right you can issue proceedings without actually addressing them further. However, what I was suggesting is giving them a further 7 days in writing that if they don't respond you'll issue proceedings, thereby looking good to the judge. 

 

All this should be in writing and is fine by first class post. CPR 6 deals with service and Postal service is standard. Especially since you won't know if they'll accept electronic service. So post to be safe. You allow 2 days postage and the start your 21 days. However, be careful, because 2 days postage won't count of it starts on a weekend if I remember rightly. It's all there anyway. Also keep a count of how many communications you are sending, all good for costs. However they will be fixed by small claims. 

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06

 

Hope this helps. 

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On 2/6/2022 at 4:20 PM, Morpheus said:

Sorry. So you send your protocol letter which will state as per the protocol, they have 21 days to respond to your claim. If they don't, by right you can issue proceedings without actually addressing them further. However, what I was suggesting is giving them a further 7 days in writing that if they don't respond you'll issue proceedings, thereby looking good to the judge. 

 

All this should be in writing and is fine by first class post. CPR 6 deals with service and Postal service is standard. Especially since you won't know if they'll accept electronic service. So post to be safe. You allow 2 days postage and the start your 21 days. However, be careful, because 2 days postage won't count of it starts on a weekend if I remember rightly. It's all there anyway. Also keep a count of how many communications you are sending, all good for costs. However they will be fixed by small claims. 

 

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part06

 

Hope this helps. 

Certified letter, return receipt requested. Is that an option in the UK?

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On 2/7/2022 at 5:27 PM, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

                                  GOD GIVE ME STRENGTH PLEASE

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This definitively works, as I've never heard of bank robbers from the 60s and 70s getting convid!

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Just now, pete675 said:

 

This definitively works, as I've never heard of bank robbers from the 60s and 70s getting convid!

 

You're right.

I put it to the test with the 20 year old girl next door....She insisted she kept the tights on though.

Then I woke up.

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On 2/8/2022 at 3:27 AM, Ziggy Sawdust said:

 

                                  GOD GIVE ME STRENGTH PLEASE

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I hope they washed them first, I bet the clothesline bandits become more active now

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I think the damage is done ,people have become so complacent and  used to wearing a mask it has become second nature,and the main reason when talking to them,I don't want any aggravation,it's easier to ware one ,just like I don't want the vaccine but I want to travel etc.

Well if that's the case they get what they deserve ,what a bunch of pussies, if they are worried about some over zealous employee or government official, or some self righteous idiot from the public what will they be like  if shit really hits the fan

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On 2/7/2022 at 3:17 AM, oddsnsods said:

 Yeah I thought about wearing a gas mask or Darth vader mask & going back in there, but then im lowering myself to their level & complying with the insanity.

 

These clowns have harassed me for two years every time I go in the clinic & they hate when you refuse to obey their authoritah.

 

I need to figure out how much im going to charge them. Was thinking £3000 in the letter, you think this is dreaming & should lower to 1000?

 

Do you have an anti discrimination dept of the government, I don't know how it works over there but it seems to me if you put in an official complaint with them and they upheld your complaint and you have indeed been discriminated against any further court action with regards to the value of damages would be backed by this previous judgment

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37 minutes ago, peter said:

Do you have an anti discrimination dept of the government, I don't know how it works over there but it seems to me if you put in an official complaint with them and they upheld your complaint and you have indeed been discriminated against any further court action with regards to the value of damages would be backed by this previous judgment

 

You could go that route Peter & above their heads, but I feel they would mess me around & wouldnt lead anywhere. Best to give them a letter of notice to prosecute. I have the letter filled, but still not made mind up about compensation. A thousand would be looking for an out of court settlement. 3000 I feel they will go court over & laugh at me. And im not confident after Dale & Morpheus posted the links on court procedures & etiquette, but solicitors always seem to be not interested in these cases & ive contacted a few now.

I might get torn apart in court with a good lawyer, but I dont want to let them get away with it either.

 

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9 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

You could go that route Peter & above their heads, but I feel they would mess me around & wouldnt lead anywhere. Best to give them a letter of notice to prosecute. I have the letter filled, but still not made mind up about compensation. A thousand would be looking for an out of court settlement. 3000 I feel they will go court over & laugh at me. And im not confident after Dale & Morpheus posted the links on court procedures & etiquette, but solicitors always seem to be not interested in these cases & ive contacted a few now.

I might get torn apart in court with a good lawyer, but I dont want to let them get away with it either.

 

Like I said I don't know what its like over there but here but here they take anti discrimination seriously ,I've been in touch with them 3 times now I carry their  number in my wallet just for cops overstepping the mark ,they said any problems let us know and they sent me official complaint forms  I have told cops to ring the number when I been hassled about not wearing masks and not signing in etc and straight away they have backed off so they obviously know the mandates are bullshit. I don't know how they would treat you,but maybe I don't think it would hurt to inquire. Like I said if you are to prepared to spend the money on lawyers  having the backing of a government judgment in your favor can only help your cause   

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On 2/6/2022 at 12:33 PM, oddsnsods said:

Cheers for all the info Dale, I am still undecided about going to court myself or getting a solicitor, every solicitor I contact doesnt seem to be interested, once you mention masks or covid pass.

 

A couple links of interest I have for anyone else who wishes to take this road.

 

Equality act pre action protocol letter template:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiylPTCiev1AhWCQUEAHZP6CLYQFnoECAUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disabilityjustice.org.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F03%2FLetter-before-action-Transport-Buses-Audiovisuals-or-ramp-not-working.docx&usg=AOvVaw0zX17C1lt4BfCStRWj0rDF

 

MCOL - Money Claim Online - Welcome  https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk

 

 

 

 

That's right. Sorry, I forgot to mentioned this in my previous post.

No solicitor wants to take it on if it's Covid related because there hasn't been many cases hence it is likely that you have to DIY.

 

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You could go that route Peter & above their heads, but I feel they would mess me around & wouldnt lead anywhere. Best to give them a letter of notice to prosecute. I have the letter filled, but still not made mind up about compensation. A thousand would be looking for an out of court settlement. 3000 I feel they will go court over & laugh at me. And im not confident after Dale & Morpheus posted the links on court procedures & etiquette, but solicitors always seem to be not interested in these cases & ive contacted a few now.

I might get torn apart in court with a good lawyer, but I dont want to let them get away with it either.

 

That's the thing. If you went ahead, other people could be helped simply because you took the opportunity to put things right.....otherwise BS is allowed to continue. I'm telling you, money is the only way to shut anybody up because it hurts.

 

There are two components. Out of court settlement was made £7K and you could also claim injury to your feelings £1K+, make it max of 10K so that you don't have to pay the Defendant's legal fee. Anything over that, you could be asked to pay. 10K isn't a great deal of money when it comes to compensation. People have been awarded 6 figure sum in work related discrimination which many people have started....e.g. NHS workers etc.

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On 2/24/2022 at 10:21 AM, DarianF said:

We are still dealing with a lot of low lying Covid. They wanted to add midgets to the list, but they can't use the word "midgets" anymore. In the meantime, those of us of average height can simply move our face masks to our knees.  

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