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Travelled to London on the train from the suburbs today expecting to see plenty of maskless people following reports and pics of the weekly mask-free shindigs at No.10 that have been all over msm the last few days. On the way in I was the only person in a busy carriage not wearing one! On the way back about half a dozen without, in a similarly populated carriage. Possibly booze stiffening a few backbones. Following the Downing St nonsense (Boris's wife was pregnant ffs) there's no excuse for anyone to still be going along with this unless they enjoy the subordination.

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16 minutes ago, Shy Talk said:

Travelled to London on the train from the suburbs today expecting to see plenty of maskless people following reports and pics of the weekly mask-free shindigs at No.10 that have been all over msm the last few days. On the way in I was the only person in a busy carriage not wearing one! On the way back about half a dozen without, in a similarly populated carriage. Possibly booze stiffening a few backbones. Following the Downing St nonsense (Boris's wife was pregnant ffs) there's no excuse for anyone to still be going along with this unless they enjoy the subordination.

Went to chip shop two days ago no mask for me ever 😎 10 peeps in and out only one had a face nappy the peeps don’t give a Fck anymore 😎

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On 1/15/2022 at 2:17 PM, Useyournous said:

A random thought that doesn't necessarily help our cause but one that has just pinged into my head (that's often what happens with me): There must be quite a lot of people who have enjoyed the masks because of their negative self image. Our society has hideous perceptions on how people should look so for example, people with a beautiful and individual facial difference could have well enjoyed the rest from people's rude eyes training on them like a sniper. However beautiful people are, there's always some ignorant pig who's going to psychologically punch them in the face. However, that rest from stares will only go towards enhancing the stares again when the masks totally go. 

 

Yeah, they hide ugliness. Save people from having to smile or make positive facial expressions. But it takes away their individuality and their humanity.

 

Besides suffocating the stupid bastards.

 

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Found this on twitter.......has anyone ever put it better?

 

"The mask won't stop viruses. It won't protect you. Its NOT a fashion accessory. It is a disgusting sign of enslavement to a pathological collectivist ideology.

It has debased normal human interaction.

Beautiful faces, friendly smiles, all made ugly and profane.

Ditch it."

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Saw a couple of unmasked ladies leaving a store the other day, and not only was it a relief not to have that nauseating pang of trauma kicking in whenever I see those masked morons, it was lovely to see their full, beautiful faces. Full of character and humanity (they were probably in their 40s or early 50s). Something has gone badly wrong with the casual and unquestioning adoption of these fucking face rags.

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This self-suffocation nonsense ain't over. People won't magically stop wearing them and come to their senses now. Too indoctrinated. And still the likes of TfL and other public services cling to the "Covid 19 guidelines".

 

No mask on TfL? You will be refused access as it's in breach of the rules. But it's not against the law, so nothing can be done by the police to enforce said rules.

 

Total clown world. And deliberately too. Let the masses squabble and fight amongst themselves.

 

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GP refused me treatment at my surgery coz I refused to mask after 2 years & claimed I need a covi pass as he wouldnt give me an exemption which I dont need anyway. 😴

 

Anyone know any decent human rights solicitors in UK who deal with this sort of thing please message us.

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23 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

GP refused me treatment at my surgery coz I refused to mask after 2 years & claimed I need a covi pass as he wouldnt give me an exemption which I dont need anyway. 😴

 

Anyone know any decent human rights solicitors in UK who deal with this sort of thing please message us.

 

Not Human Rights Act but Equality Act 2010?

1. Send a Pre Protocol Action letter initially. I can provide you with a structure if you are going to do it yourself.

 

2. For upto £10K claim, you can start a claim at the small claims court. The Defendant cannot claim their legal fee from you. For claim over £10K you will be asked to pay the Defendant's legal cost e.g. solicitor's fee, court fee and barrister's fee (from £500 p/h) IF you lose. Your case could be struck off if you do not follow the Practice Direction even before you are given a chance for a hearing.

 

3. After 14 days, if you do not get a response or satisfactory response, you will proceed to make an application to the court using N1 form and send the Particulars of Claim as well. If you do this online, you will not be able to claim exemption of the court fee using EX160 form (which must be claimed within 3 months from the date of N1 form application) so it's best to send the paper form to the County Court Business Centre in Northampton if you are going to apply for court fee refund. For a disability case, you only have six months to claim from the date you were offended.

 

Obviously, there will more to this process but 1-3 will be the first steps to take. You weigh the cost vs your claim amount. It might work out that they will take 25% of your claim money. If you are going to seek a solicitor, it would obviously be easier. Try to find No Win No Fee solicitor.

 

We have a couple of legally minded people in the forum should they find your post. I am not a solicitor.

 

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47 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

Not Human Rights Act but Equality Act 2010?

Hi Dale, Equality act & also human rights, article 8 privacy.

As they try to get me to explain my medical details in a public setting, through one of them plastic barriers, even when I tell them thats against the law. They mock me further, when the doctor unknown to me steps in saying they are a doctor so can ask me anything.

So I said they should know my medical issues then & offer me an exemption..he tells me call 119 & get a covid pass. Which he repeated in email lol This guys a joker & totally unprofessional.

Neither of them were wearing a mask when talking to me of course. (standing next to each other)

47 minutes ago, DaleP said:

1. Send a Pre Protocol Action letter initially. I can provide you with a structure if you are going to do it yourself.

Yes that would be appreciated.

 

Do I need the defendants home address or can I use the surgery & Do I have to deliver it to him in person or post it.

I know once I do this is no going back & will have to try & find another surgery.

 

Cheers.

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On 2/3/2022 at 4:51 PM, oddsnsods said:

GP refused me treatment at my surgery coz I refused to mask after 2 years & claimed I need a covi pass as he wouldnt give me an exemption which I dont need anyway. 😴

 

Anyone know any decent human rights solicitors in UK who deal with this sort of thing please message us.

 

Don't know if there is anything useful in these two sites but might be worth a look:

 

https://covid-unmasked.net/face-mask-exemption/

 

&

PROMIC

Professionals for Medical Informed Consent and Non-Discrimination (PROMIC) is an umbrella group for organisations of health professionals, scientists and lawyers established in August 2021.

 

The founding organisations of PROMIC are the Alliance for Natural Health International and the UK Medical Freedom Alliance

https://www.promic.info/

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Firstly, I suggest you to start looking for a new surgery and register with them.

No point in going backs and forwards if this surgery is misinformed/ignorant of the law and their position. What's done is done already. They can mock you anyway they like, that's going down in the detail. All of the details you posted above will go into the FACT section of Particulars of Claim.

 

I presume that the receptionist & unnamed doctor are employed by the surgery so it would be you vs the surgery. You can insert who you've spoken with in the POC including their description like sex, approximate age, features like hair colour, body type to identify if you don't have a name.

 

Chances are that they might settle after you sending in the Pre Action Protocol letter or decide to fight it. They will decide after speaking to their solicitor which way is cost effective. Timing wise, it could take upt o 18 months to settle if you go to court.

 

Here are something for you to read this weekend and decide whether it's too much for a little claim or to look for a solicitor. It looks like you could make a claim for negligence or/and discrimination. But obviously I don't know ins and outs of your status so this is just roughly speaking, you must check the details yourself.

 

https://www.equalityhumanrights.com/en/publication-download/how-work-out-value-discrimination-claim-england-and-wales

 

Some POC example of the format

You need to use the correct format such as document margin being at least 3.5cm, every page must have a page number and claim number.

http://www.e-rdw.co.uk/farms.php

 

POC
https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/rules/part16#16.4

https://patient.info/doctor/clinical-negligence
https://www.teeslaw.com/insights/making-medical-negligence-claim/

https://www.justice.gov.uk/courts/procedure-rules/civil/protocol/prot_neg

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Cheers for all the info Dale, I am still undecided about going to court myself or getting a solicitor, every solicitor I contact doesnt seem to be interested, once you mention masks or covid pass.

 

A couple links of interest I have for anyone else who wishes to take this road.

 

Equality act pre action protocol letter template:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiylPTCiev1AhWCQUEAHZP6CLYQFnoECAUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disabilityjustice.org.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F03%2FLetter-before-action-Transport-Buses-Audiovisuals-or-ramp-not-working.docx&usg=AOvVaw0zX17C1lt4BfCStRWj0rDF

 

MCOL - Money Claim Online - Welcome  https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk

 

 

 

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4 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

Cheers for all the info Dale, I am still undecided about going to court myself or getting a solicitor, every solicitor I contact doesnt seem to be interested, once you mention masks or covid pass.

 

A couple links of interest I have for anyone else who wishes to take this road.

 

Equality act pre action protocol letter template:

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwiylPTCiev1AhWCQUEAHZP6CLYQFnoECAUQAQ&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.disabilityjustice.org.uk%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2018%2F03%2FLetter-before-action-Transport-Buses-Audiovisuals-or-ramp-not-working.docx&usg=AOvVaw0zX17C1lt4BfCStRWj0rDF

 

MCOL - Money Claim Online - Welcome  https://www.moneyclaim.gov.uk

 

 

 

Hi odds go back into the surgery with a hazmat suit on and say I’m ready to be seen now 😂😂😂

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7 minutes ago, Celticdevil said:

Hi odds go back into the surgery with a hazmat suit on and say I’m ready to be seen now 😂😂😂

 Yeah I thought about wearing a gas mask or Darth vader mask & going back in there, but then im lowering myself to their level & complying with the insanity.

 

These clowns have harassed me for two years every time I go in the clinic & they hate when you refuse to obey their authoritah.

 

I need to figure out how much im going to charge them. Was thinking £3000 in the letter, you think this is dreaming & should lower to 1000?

 

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19 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 Yeah I thought about wearing a gas mask or Darth vader mask & going back in there, but then im lowering myself to their level & complying with the insanity.

 

These clowns have harassed me for two years every time I go in the clinic & they hate when you refuse to obey their authoritah.

 

I need to figure out how much im going to charge them. Was thinking £3000 in the letter, you think this is dreaming & should lower to 1000?

 

The way I see it they work for you Fck them 

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On 2/4/2022 at 5:55 PM, oddsnsods said:

Hi Dale, Equality act & also human rights, article 8 privacy.

As they try to get me to explain my medical details in a public setting, through one of them plastic barriers, even when I tell them thats against the law. They mock me further, when the doctor unknown to me steps in saying they are a doctor so can ask me anything.

So I said they should know my medical issues then & offer me an exemption..he tells me call 119 & get a covid pass. Which he repeated in email lol This guys a joker & totally unprofessional.

Neither of them were wearing a mask when talking to me of course. (standing next to each other)

Yes that would be appreciated.

 

Do I need the defendants home address or can I use the surgery & Do I have to deliver it to him in person or post it.

I know once I do this is no going back & will have to try & find another surgery.

 

Cheers.

Hi Odds,

 

You need the defendant's address for the claim form and I would issue I'm your own court, not the CCMCC. You'll only delay matters when they transfer the case to your own court. 

 

To find your home court see here:

 

https://www.gov.uk/find-court-tribunal

 

Just put don't know name

Money

Money 

Then your post code and this will give you the home court you require. 

 

If you're looking to issue, you need to follow CPR 7 for issuing claims. Particulars of claim might be quite tricky, hopefully you don't need to get that far because the protocol letter may well be enough for him to see that you're serious.

 

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