Athenry04 Posted December 6, 2021 Share Posted December 6, 2021 On 12/1/2021 at 6:40 AM, spideysensei said: Here's how my day went regarding masks Boss: as you know spidey, masks must be worn in shop again (holds shitty disposable nappy about to hand it to me) Me: not for me thanks i'm exempt according to gov guidelines Boss: we need to see proof or a reason for exemption Me: no, you don't. it's all there on the gov website. have a look for yourself Boss: ok i'm going to need to call HR about this. i'll talk to you in a minute 10 minutes later... Boss: ok i've got hold of them and it looks like i'll be needing a reason for exemption Me: no, you don't, unless [store name] rules supersede gov rules, and if so i'll need it in writing for poss legal case in future Boss: *sigh* ok i'll have to call HR again Another 10 minutes later... Boss: ok it turns out you were right Me: i know, it's amazing how many people just dont read the gov website and go off of opinion or media, also how come i have less rights than customers whom we are told not challenge their medical status Boss: blah blah company staff policies blah blah keeping customers safe blah blah fucking blah Me: mhm, see you later then Job done. No mask bullshit. Only sodding member of staff not to do so as i predicted. The fucking man, love this. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incontinentia_Buttux Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 I am tempted to enter a supermarket with a pair of women's knickers on my head.... Surely they would be as much use as any other form of mask. And would look no more ridiculous either. Surely they wouldn't insist on me taking them off and risking spreading the "covid"....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tunique Posted December 8, 2021 Share Posted December 8, 2021 (edited) . Edited December 8, 2021 by Tunique Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted December 9, 2021 Share Posted December 9, 2021 11 hours ago, Incontinentia_Buttux said: I am tempted to enter a supermarket with a pair of women's knickers on my head.... Surely they would be as much use as any other form of mask. And would look no more ridiculous either. Surely they wouldn't insist on me taking them off and risking spreading the "covid"....? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spideysensei Posted December 12, 2021 Share Posted December 12, 2021 Small acts create ripples, never forget this. Most of my fellow staff were unmasked today. Had a conversation with one where i informed her on her rights, exemption rules etc. I said i'm not special, everyone is exempt as per the very definition laid out in the gov guidelines, and you're not required to give one damn reason to anyone. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted December 14, 2021 Share Posted December 14, 2021 (edited) FYI @SoundOfSilence This was in Belgium....but Quote Enforced wearing of masks declared unconstitutional https://ukhumanrightsblog.com/2021/01/25/enforced-wearing-of-masks-declared-unconstitutional/ You might also be interested in this one as well. https://www.jonathanlea.net/blog/do-the-government-have-the-legal-authority-to-enforce-mask-wearing/ Edited December 14, 2021 by DaleP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 23 minutes ago, DaleP said: FYI @SoundOfSilence This was in Belgium....but You might also be interested in this one as well. https://www.jonathanlea.net/blog/do-the-government-have-the-legal-authority-to-enforce-mask-wearing/ This is a very different scenario to standing up in court and saying that you do not consent to the law and are not bound by it. By the way, I am not even sure that the the actions of the UK government as set out in the second article are lawful. Cabinet cannot make law without it going through the parliamentary process. Regulations are permitted without going through parliament. Though regulation making power must be set out in the primary legislation. For example if the primary legislation says that the government can mandate masks and the Mask Fuhrer can regulate as to the design of the mask. Then the Mask Fuhrer's mask requirements would not need parliamentary approval. But that does not seem to be what is happening here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaleP Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 6 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: This is a very different scenario to standing up in court and saying that you do not consent to the law and are not bound by it. 6 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: By the way, I am not even sure that the the actions of the UK government as set out in the second article are lawful. The govt action is/was not lawful. 6 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Cabinet cannot make law without it going through the parliamentary process. Have a read under "A Change in the Law?" in the 2nd link. " s.45R(2) states that the Government can create law without the need for it to be ‘laid and approved’ by Parliament by ‘reason of urgency’.[6]" This is a bit like the other link I gave you the other day that the govt can overrule the decision of the Court. Anything to usher in what they like, they will bend the rule anyway shape or form...... 6 minutes ago, SoundOfSilence said: Regulations are permitted without going through parliament. Though regulation making power must be set out in the primary legislation. For example if the primary legislation says that the government can mandate masks and the Mask Fuhrer can regulate as to the design of the mask. Then the Mask Fuhrer's mask requirements would not need parliamentary approval. But that does not seem to be what is happening here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoundOfSilence Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 1 minute ago, DaleP said: The govt action is/was not lawful. Have a read under "A Change in the Law?" in the 2nd link. " s.45R(2) states that the Government can create law without the need for it to be ‘laid and approved’ by Parliament by ‘reason of urgency’.[6]" I did read it. I am not sure that government has the power to do that for the reasons I gave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKitty Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 5:15 PM, Ziggy Sawdust said: Thank goodness she wasn't wearing granny panties. She might have suffocated and we'd have another Covid related death. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Human10 Posted December 15, 2021 Share Posted December 15, 2021 On 12/8/2021 at 2:03 PM, Ziggy Sawdust said: I hope it is real... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pierre-Luc Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 On 12/14/2021 at 7:30 PM, SoundOfSilence said: I did read it. I am not sure that government has the power to do that for the reasons I gave. We should really try to make the distinction between Legal and Lawful i think. It took me awhile to really wrapped my mind around it. Everything that the corporation of the government is about legalize things. Legal relate to rules inside a corporation and imply to have signed a contract with the other entity(business, corporation, commercial agreement between two people). It imply to have an inform consent, a full comprehension of the contract. A business and a employee have a contract. Starting at the moment the employee signed the contract stating that he/she will conform to the rules of the business. Where i live the Government legalize/rules are called law but they are not. Something lawful and unlawful is about righteousness(Do no arm). Our judiciary system is based from the common law(maritime laws(commercial)) and the rules of civil procedures. Which do not apply to we the people. **i am not completely sure about the exact way it's work, i resume it in the way i think it work.** But the notion of consent have been hijacked. Do they have right to do arm?! Ultimately Yes they have?! Are they morally wrong to do it? Yes. But they have no or little moral compass. They hijacked the notion of consent trough out the generations making ourselves believing that we should obey rules written by entities who look to manipulate and exploit. They do not even follow their own rules and procedures. If too many peoples become aware that something is wrong they write another rules to serve their agenda. We know what they are doing is wrong. They know the freedom they have. They have the freedom to take our freedom if they succeed at making us believe that words on paper overpass our deep moral empathy compass and discernment. They will not stop for words on paper. They never did in facts. We should try to stop relying on rules and "laws" written by the same entities that do arm to people. Like if they were some sort of magical formula, that as soon as we know they are doing arm and that we point those words to them, they were suppose to stop or dissolve into the ether. At some point some of them will have to get punch in the throat. But it can be a great starting point to wake up some people. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chinnery Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 Don't be a Dick' warns Lancashire County Council as controversial new poster targets unmasked shoppers A new poster campaign launched by Lancashire County Council has caused a stir after it told those refusing to mask up in shops, "Don't be a Dick Angry backlash - what some people think about the new Council poster "What a cheap school yard bully campaign. You can make this point without being vile about someone's name," said one critic. "Great message to send out, let’s start calling people names if they don’t do what you want. Very professional," added Samantha McIntyre. "Most pathetic and divisive post I’ve seen in a while and it comes from our very own County Council," said Lancs musician Andrew Gilmour. "Wow. Calling people a dick? Aren't you meant to be professional as your a council?," asked another. "Obviously Dick is short for Richard. But its the context it was written in." https://www.lep.co.uk/health/coronavirus/dont-be-a-dick-warns-lancashire-county-council-as-controversial-new-poster-targets-unmasked-shoppers-3498413 I don't think the cuntcil has any powers to fine any one! May be for a repost. @GarethIcke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted December 17, 2021 Share Posted December 17, 2021 "It's the law". No it isn't. Fucking jobsworth shills. Empty the bins, keep the roads clear and shut the fuck up. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted December 18, 2021 Share Posted December 18, 2021 17 hours ago, Mr Chinnery said: Don't be a Dick' warns Lancashire County Council as controversial new poster targets unmasked shoppers A new poster campaign launched by Lancashire County Council has caused a stir after it told those refusing to mask up in shops, "Don't be a Dick Angry backlash - what some people think about the new Council poster "What a cheap school yard bully campaign. You can make this point without being vile about someone's name," said one critic. "Great message to send out, let’s start calling people names if they don’t do what you want. Very professional," added Samantha McIntyre. "Most pathetic and divisive post I’ve seen in a while and it comes from our very own County Council," said Lancs musician Andrew Gilmour. "Wow. Calling people a dick? Aren't you meant to be professional as your a council?," asked another. "Obviously Dick is short for Richard. But its the context it was written in." https://www.lep.co.uk/health/coronavirus/dont-be-a-dick-warns-lancashire-county-council-as-controversial-new-poster-targets-unmasked-shoppers-3498413 I don't think the cuntcil has any powers to fine any one! May be for a repost. @GarethIcke Beyond pathetic.....who put that shit together?.....The office junior? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Chinnery Posted December 19, 2021 Share Posted December 19, 2021 On 12/18/2021 at 12:13 PM, Ziggy Sawdust said: Beyond pathetic.....who put that shit together?.....The office junior? Probably the over payed public health director who earns more than the prime minister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Anti Facts Sir Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 5 hours ago, Guardian said: Case closed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted December 20, 2021 Share Posted December 20, 2021 One thing I have noticed as a regular commuter by bus, is that since 'face coverings' became mandatory again (because that worked so well last time around), I'm still seeing a fair few other passengers not wearing them, which I do find quite pleasing. Even the one jobsworth bus driver, who did used to challenge people as to why they weren't wearing one, isn't bothering to ask anyone anymore. Perhaps there is a turning point on the horizon, or maybe I'm being too hopeful? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ziggy Sawdust Posted December 21, 2021 Share Posted December 21, 2021 (edited) 6 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: One thing I have noticed as a regular commuter by bus, is that since 'face coverings' became mandatory again (because that worked so well last time around), I'm still seeing a fair few other passengers not wearing them, which I do find quite pleasing. Even the one jobsworth bus driver, who did used to challenge people as to why they weren't wearing one, isn't bothering to ask anyone anymore. Perhaps there is a turning point on the horizon, or maybe I'm being too hopeful? No you're not. I was sitting in a Lidl car park waiting for the wife today and to keep myself amused I counted people going in and of the 42 I saw it was 24 masked and 18 with birth faces. Edited December 21, 2021 by Ziggy Sawdust Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete675 Posted December 24, 2021 Share Posted December 24, 2021 On 12/17/2021 at 6:48 PM, Mr Chinnery said: Don't be a Dick' warns Lancashire County Council as controversial new poster targets unmasked shoppers A new poster campaign launched by Lancashire County Council has caused a stir after it told those refusing to mask up in shops, "Don't be a Dick Angry backlash - what some people think about the new Council poster "What a cheap school yard bully campaign. You can make this point without being vile about someone's name," said one critic. "Great message to send out, let’s start calling people names if they don’t do what you want. Very professional," added Samantha McIntyre. "Most pathetic and divisive post I’ve seen in a while and it comes from our very own County Council," said Lancs musician Andrew Gilmour. "Wow. Calling people a dick? Aren't you meant to be professional as your a council?," asked another. "Obviously Dick is short for Richard. But its the context it was written in." https://www.lep.co.uk/health/coronavirus/dont-be-a-dick-warns-lancashire-county-council-as-controversial-new-poster-targets-unmasked-shoppers-3498413 I don't think the cuntcil has any powers to fine any one! May be for a repost. @GarethIcke Don't be a dick, say no to council tax... stop paying out large amounts for not very much in return. Don't be a dick - spend your money on something useful, don't waste it supporting fat bastard sleazebag councillors! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted December 26, 2021 Share Posted December 26, 2021 hello everybody ----- so far i have been disobeying the mask-mandate because i believe that it is psychopathic to muzzle a dog, let alone a person. also, i believe we have to take a stand now and start breaking the rules. however, my situation dictates that i feel i have to comply with the mask-mandate in order to do what i need to do with the bigger picture in mind -- i can't see another way. my compromise, at this point, is to write "MIND CONTROL" on my face mask, so that at least i am still making a statement, but without breaking the law. australia is now a techno-fascist police state. the normies are oblivious and will defend the oppression of the human spirit because they have none (spirit). one normie worked up into a fit of rage at me when i was doing my xmas shopping unmasked. idiot. ----- have a great day everybody Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Useyournous Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 A random thought that doesn't necessarily help our cause but one that has just pinged into my head (that's often what happens with me): There must be quite a lot of people who have enjoyed the masks because of their negative self image. Our society has hideous perceptions on how people should look so for example, people with a beautiful and individual facial difference could have well enjoyed the rest from people's rude eyes training on them like a sniper. However beautiful people are, there's always some ignorant pig who's going to psychologically punch them in the face. However, that rest from stares will only go towards enhancing the stares again when the masks totally go. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted January 15, 2022 Share Posted January 15, 2022 The penny just isn't dropping with these people... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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