UK weather bureau that openly criticises Right-wingers, Piers Corbyn, et al.

[Grumpy Grapes]

An influential but not well-known British weather bureau was openly political, as well as being a climate change promoter/activist, which to me compromised their supposed scientific impartiality. Although not as well-known as the UK government's Met Office,  BWS (British Weather Services) were - in 2022 -  the UK’s longest established 'independent' meteorological company and had numerous mainstream clients, including the BBC.  

 

BWS was openly opposed to Boris Johnson and the Tories, and to much of what they did, including Brexit. So much for independent science. BWS' Twitter profile description in 2022 included this: "Johnson is a lying narcissist!"  

 

A pinned tweet at the top of the BWS Twitter feed in 2022 said:  "It is absolutely plain that we are now too late to stop catastrophic global impacts of #climate change. Sorry to say it, but over the next decade and more, there will be strife, there will be chaos, there will be blood! Plan & prepare!" 

 

Here's the link: 

 

https://twitter.com/BritWeatherSvs

 

BRITISH WEATHER SVS (@BritWeatherSvs) / Twitter

 

Note the imagery in their title page : a spider at the centre of a web, and one eye at the centre of the world.  

 

 

 

Their Twitter feed was littered with crude, blatantly anti-Tory comment, including this on June 27: 

 

"According to several scientific studies, people who vote Conservative have by enlarge [sic – it should be "by and large"], lower IQs & fewer qualifications than those vote [ sic – they omitted the "who"] to the contrary. Which answers so much about why we are where we are." 

 

Were BWS aware of their poor English? 

 

BWS also promoted the mainstream line on Covid-19. They retweeted the following comment on Covid on June 26th:  

"FightingAnne1 @FightingAnne1  

"The Tories talk about beating COVID but we have 178,000 dead and are well into another wave. All they've done is stopped all testing and reporting and pretended it's gone away. " 

 

BWS Clients have included BBC News 24, Channel 5; Sky News; Daily Mirror; BBC 4; LBC; BBC R5 Live; betting companies (e.g. William Hill). BWS claim that they have been "trusted by the legal fraternity for over three decades".  

  

The BWS founder, JIM DALE, spent much of his early career in the British Royal Navy as a meteorological observer at the Royal Navy’s School of Meteorology & Oceanography. He served as a meteorologist in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm during the early to mid 1980′s, including two spells in and around the Falklands & South Georgia. Dale formed BWS in 1987.   

 

Dale wrote: "I also write weather-related features for the press media and provide comment in the press and on radio and television. I am pleased and honoured to be one of the UK's most respected consultant global meteorologists. Companies I have worked for and with include -: Bet 365, Bloomberg, Reuters, Ford World Rally, Asda, TNT, UKMail, Stoke City, Wolverhampton Wanderers FC & Middlesborough FC, The Mirror, Sky TV, BBC TV, BBC Radio 5 Live, Channel 5, Red Bull Air Show, Jordan Formula 1GP" 

 

Dale's opinion on the hot weather in Europe in June 2022 was sought by the British daily national newspaper, "Express":  

 

"Senior meteorologist for British Weather Services Jim Dale blamed climate change as the reason for the extreme heat in European parts of the world."  (Daily Express article June 27th 2022, "Europe heatwave: Scorching temperatures in France and Spain to trigger 30C sizzler in UK", By VICTORIA CHESSUM, Mon, Jun 27, 2022) 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1631749/Europe-heatwave-latest-uk-weather-forecast-france-spain-heat-map-july-summer

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1631749/Europe-heatwave-latest-uk-weather-forecast-france-spain-heat-map-july-summer 

  

On the BWS website, in 2022, they explained their not-very-impartial views:  

 

"Where we hold fundamental views such as the very real threat of man-made climate change, we will not shirk from our role of informing and placing our views on record – and that includes the economies-of-the-truth with concern to climate change, spread by political organisations and individuals such as the US Republicans, Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, The ERG, UKIP, Brexit, Nigel Farage, Nigel Lawson, Charles Moore, Piers Corbyn, The Daily Mail and others, in attempting to deny that man-made climate change even exists." 

 

Dale wrote a dramatic article in his "Linkedin" account in 2022: 

 

"THE WEATHER IS CHANGING & YOU NEED TO CHANGE TOO!" (Feb 5th 2022) 

 

"We all now know and most of the sane world accepts that the world's climate is changing and we must all move to mitigate future temperature rises by limiting fossil fuel usage and other measures. 

 

"However, and it's a BIG however; anything we do now and for the next 20-30 years will be too late to stop the weather wreaking havoc and destruction, both in a slow and measured way and also with sudden and unyielding ferocity. WE ARE TOO LATE! We have to plan now, organise and become educated in knowing how to best protect ourselves from all elements of extreme weather - both in terms of the short and longer term impacts. It's of little use waiting and fiddling whilst 'super natural forces' gather and suddenly unleash their venom upon us. That will only end in greater pain. 

 

" It's of little use waiting and fiddling whilst 'super natural forces' gather and suddenly unleash their venom upon us. That will only end in greater pain. 

 

"Believe me when I say that this is the immediate agenda and that climate mitigation is the slow burner (a slow cooler more like) that is wholly worthwhile pursuing for a better more stable further in decades and centuries to come, but for now the focus has to change. 

 

"For me, I know where my focus and that of British Weather Services will largely be over this coming few years, that is assisting those to best prepare for the cataclysms yet to befall. Yes, we all have to continue to lead our lives much as we are now with some wise changes, but the caveat has to be manoeuvring ourselves as best and intelligently as we possibly can - to be that much safer and more secure, in a fast changing world that will hold no prisoners! 

 

"You have been warned!" 

 

Part of Dale's plan for mitigating climate change is his company "Acclimatised Ltd", which claims to assist companies and domestic households to become net zero & environmentally sound.  

 

Another BWS employee was the former BBC TV weather forecaster JOHN KETTLEY who served for 30 years with the UK Met Office before going freelance. He appeared as a talking head for a "Channel 5" documentary on the legendary British heatwave of 1976, aired on June 18th 2022, coinciding with the aforementioned European heatwave. The documentary ("Heatwave: Summer of '76", produced by ITN) was repeated again in early July (5th) when Britain was itself forecasted to have a mini-heatwave in July 2022 (predicted to be from 8th to 19th July). Did Channel 5 and ITN know what was to come? 

 

In the documentary, Kettley didn't mention climate change, and indeed there was no banging of the drum on climate change, except for the end when it was inferred that it was probably the cause of the '76 heatwave. 

[Grumpy Owl]

I've seen the name 'Jim Dale' pop up in various 'news articles' related to weather, and I've often wondered if some of these names get made up, as a kind of 'piss-take'.

 

After all to me, Jim Dale is best known as a comedy actor who appeared in several of the "Carry On" movies.

 

New one coming soon: "Carry On Forecasting"

[Anti Facts Sir]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

After all to me, Jim Dale is best known as a comedy actor who appeared in several of the "Carry On" movies.

And one of his starring roles in that series was Carry On Jack...about the Navy....

 

[Human10]

On 7/6/2022 at 2:45 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

An influential but not well-known British weather bureau was openly political, as well as being a climate change promoter/activist, which to me compromised their supposed scientific impartiality. Although not as well-known as the UK government's Met Office,  BWS (British Weather Services) were - in 2022 -  the UK’s longest established 'independent' meteorological company and had numerous mainstream clients, including the BBC.  

 

BWS was openly opposed to Boris Johnson and the Tories, and to much of what they did, including Brexit. So much for independent science. BWS' Twitter profile description in 2022 included this: "Johnson is a lying narcissist!"  

 

A pinned tweet at the top of the BWS Twitter feed in 2022 said:  "It is absolutely plain that we are now too late to stop catastrophic global impacts of #climate change. Sorry to say it, but over the next decade and more, there will be strife, there will be chaos, there will be blood! Plan & prepare!" 

 

Here's the link: 

 

https://twitter.com/BritWeatherSvs

 

BRITISH WEATHER SVS (@BritWeatherSvs) / Twitter

 

Note the imagery in their title page : a spider at the centre of a web, and one eye at the centre of the world.  

 

 

 

Their Twitter feed was littered with crude, blatantly anti-Tory comment, including this on June 27: 

 

"According to several scientific studies, people who vote Conservative have by enlarge [sic – it should be "by and large"], lower IQs & fewer qualifications than those vote [ sic – they omitted the "who"] to the contrary. Which answers so much about why we are where we are." 

 

Were BWS aware of their poor English? 

 

BWS also promoted the mainstream line on Covid-19. They retweeted the following comment on Covid on June 26th:  

"FightingAnne1 @FightingAnne1  

"The Tories talk about beating COVID but we have 178,000 dead and are well into another wave. All they've done is stopped all testing and reporting and pretended it's gone away. " 

 

BWS Clients have included BBC News 24, Channel 5; Sky News; Daily Mirror; BBC 4; LBC; BBC R5 Live; betting companies (e.g. William Hill). BWS claim that they have been "trusted by the legal fraternity for over three decades".  

  

The BWS founder, JIM DALE, spent much of his early career in the British Royal Navy as a meteorological observer at the Royal Navy’s School of Meteorology & Oceanography. He served as a meteorologist in the Royal Navy's Fleet Air Arm during the early to mid 1980′s, including two spells in and around the Falklands & South Georgia. Dale formed BWS in 1987.   

 

Dale wrote: "I also write weather-related features for the press media and provide comment in the press and on radio and television. I am pleased and honoured to be one of the UK's most respected consultant global meteorologists. Companies I have worked for and with include -: Bet 365, Bloomberg, Reuters, Ford World Rally, Asda, TNT, UKMail, Stoke City, Wolverhampton Wanderers FC & Middlesborough FC, The Mirror, Sky TV, BBC TV, BBC Radio 5 Live, Channel 5, Red Bull Air Show, Jordan Formula 1GP" 

 

Dale's opinion on the hot weather in Europe in June 2022 was sought by the British daily national newspaper, "Express":  

 

"Senior meteorologist for British Weather Services Jim Dale blamed climate change as the reason for the extreme heat in European parts of the world."  (Daily Express article June 27th 2022, "Europe heatwave: Scorching temperatures in France and Spain to trigger 30C sizzler in UK", By VICTORIA CHESSUM, Mon, Jun 27, 2022) 

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1631749/Europe-heatwave-latest-uk-weather-forecast-france-spain-heat-map-july-summer

https://www.express.co.uk/news/weather/1631749/Europe-heatwave-latest-uk-weather-forecast-france-spain-heat-map-july-summer 

  

On the BWS website, in 2022, they explained their not-very-impartial views:  

 

"Where we hold fundamental views such as the very real threat of man-made climate change, we will not shirk from our role of informing and placing our views on record – and that includes the economies-of-the-truth with concern to climate change, spread by political organisations and individuals such as the US Republicans, Donald Trump, Boris Johnson, Jacob Rees-Mogg, The ERG, UKIP, Brexit, Nigel Farage, Nigel Lawson, Charles Moore, Piers Corbyn, The Daily Mail and others, in attempting to deny that man-made climate change even exists." 

 

Dale wrote a dramatic article in his "Linkedin" account in 2022: 

 

"THE WEATHER IS CHANGING & YOU NEED TO CHANGE TOO!" (Feb 5th 2022) 

 

"We all now know and most of the sane world accepts that the world's climate is changing and we must all move to mitigate future temperature rises by limiting fossil fuel usage and other measures. 

 

"However, and it's a BIG however; anything we do now and for the next 20-30 years will be too late to stop the weather wreaking havoc and destruction, both in a slow and measured way and also with sudden and unyielding ferocity. WE ARE TOO LATE! We have to plan now, organise and become educated in knowing how to best protect ourselves from all elements of extreme weather - both in terms of the short and longer term impacts. It's of little use waiting and fiddling whilst 'super natural forces' gather and suddenly unleash their venom upon us. That will only end in greater pain. 

 

" It's of little use waiting and fiddling whilst 'super natural forces' gather and suddenly unleash their venom upon us. That will only end in greater pain. 

 

"Believe me when I say that this is the immediate agenda and that climate mitigation is the slow burner (a slow cooler more like) that is wholly worthwhile pursuing for a better more stable further in decades and centuries to come, but for now the focus has to change. 

 

"For me, I know where my focus and that of British Weather Services will largely be over this coming few years, that is assisting those to best prepare for the cataclysms yet to befall. Yes, we all have to continue to lead our lives much as we are now with some wise changes, but the caveat has to be manoeuvring ourselves as best and intelligently as we possibly can - to be that much safer and more secure, in a fast changing world that will hold no prisoners! 

 

"You have been warned!" 

 

Part of Dale's plan for mitigating climate change is his company "Acclimatised Ltd", which claims to assist companies and domestic households to become net zero & environmentally sound.  

 

Another BWS employee was the former BBC TV weather forecaster JOHN KETTLEY who served for 30 years with the UK Met Office before going freelance. He appeared as a talking head for a "Channel 5" documentary on the legendary British heatwave of 1976, aired on June 18th 2022, coinciding with the aforementioned European heatwave. The documentary ("Heatwave: Summer of '76", produced by ITN) was repeated again in early July (5th) when Britain was itself forecasted to have a mini-heatwave in July 2022 (predicted to be from 8th to 19th July). Did Channel 5 and ITN know what was to come? 

 

In the documentary, Kettley didn't mention climate change, and indeed there was no banging of the drum on climate change, except for the end when it was inferred that it was probably the cause of the '76 heatwave. 

So if we can't stop it we could try to carry on as normal? As we should do with a cold 2019? 

[Grumpy Grapes]

On the BWS twitter feed, they made this prediction for July 18th and 19th, but it doesn't match predictions on the Met Office web site (33 or 34 degrees)

 

"Some good news. When U.K. temperatures peak at circa 38-40 deg C. this time next week, we WON’T be hotter than…. Death Valley, California at circa 50 deg. C. The bad news? It doesn’t mean we won’t shrivel up & die anyway" (Jul 11, 2022)

[DaleP]

1 hour ago, Grumpy Grapes said:

On the BWS twitter feed, they made this prediction for July 18th and 19th, but it doesn't match predictions on the Met Office web site (33 or 34 degrees)

 

"Some good news. When U.K. temperatures peak at circa 38-40 deg C. this time next week, we WON’T be hotter than…. Death Valley, California at circa 50 deg. C. The bad news? It doesn’t mean we won’t shrivel up & die anyway" (Jul 11, 2022)

 

Clearly the Met Office is infested with those that are obsessed with numbers.

[Grumpy Owl]

3 hours ago, DaleP said:

 

Clearly the Met Office is infested with those that are obsessed with numbers.

 

Met Office is just as bad with their fear-mongering forecasts.

[DaleP]

Do you understanding young persons who are wearing a cardigan in this weather?

Then when I go to a supermarket, young people saying it's freezing whereas I am thinking, gosh it takes ages to cool down.

I reckon they are either possessed or that they live in a different reality than me.

 

37C on Tuesday....

Edited July 12, 2022 by DaleP

[Grumpy Grapes]

BWS want masks to be worn in the NHS:

 

"Walks into a #covid vaccination centre like you do, nobody wearing masks, not even the staff. Staggering!" (Twitter post, July 13th 2022).

Edited July 13, 2022 by Grumpy Grapes

[eddy64]

when i was at the hospital on Monday a bit after we got there some admin person came round and said to the nurses mask where mandatory again.  still quiet a few of the patients didn't bother and the nurses didn't try to force them to wear them.  got the nurse to give my mum one of those face visors, so don't think its the actual medical staff that's pushing it too hard. 

Edited July 14, 2022 by eddy64

[Golden Retriever]

Where I live in Andalucia the average temperature for about 10 weeks during July August and September

every day is at least 30 celcius, much more inland. People adapt.

 

 

[DaleP]

Monday & Tuesday is going to be 38C.

I think they are having a laugh just to get a reaction.

 

I don't know if I'll survive this as I am built for Nordic climate....I am like a husky....roll around in snow happily. Sipping a Pina Colada on a beach like Del Boy isn't my thing.

[Doc]

9 hours ago, DaleP said:

Monday & Tuesday is going to be 38C.

I think they are having a laugh just to get a reaction.

 

I don't know if I'll survive this as I am built for Nordic climate....I am like a husky....roll around in snow happily. Sipping a Pina Colada on a beach like Del Boy isn't my thing.

I hate the heat too Dale. Craving winter at the moment. Monday/Tuesday will be dangerous for the elderly and the very young  On the plus side, the heat should be exiting UK shores by the end of Tuesday. Looks to be cooling down (relatively speaking) from the West by around midday Tuesday. Will still be hot from residual heat but looking at the weather forums should be back to UK average temps by Wednesday. Here's a photo of the 20c isotherm (temp at 5000ft, yellow bit) crossing UK at 6pm Tuesday.

 

 

Edited July 15, 2022 by Doc

[DaleP]

The heatwave is now a national emergency and they are talking about 40C.

Don't you love the effort they made to draw a heart? Heat?

They are probably hoping that jabbed will suffer more heart/heat attack.

I wouldn't be surprised if this was a part of the experiment to see how jabbed will fair in extreme heat. Conspiracy of course.... lol

I have no idea how I am going to survive when they turn up the HAARP to 40C. It's 25C currently and I am just about breathing.

 

Quote

Heatwave: National emergency declared after UK's first red extreme heat warning

It warned illness and death could occur "among the fit and healthy".

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-62177458

 

You know zoo staff makes ice blocks for animals....including fruits for treats.

I've frozen grapes and that was lovely. I have frozen bottled water, banana and melon on the go as well.

[Grumpy Owl]

Heatwave: National emergency declared after UK's first red extreme heat warning

Quote

A national emergency has been declared after a red extreme heat warning was issued for the first time, as temperatures could hit 40C (104F).

The Met Office's highest warning, meaning there is a risk to life, covers an area including London, Manchester and York on Monday and Tuesday.

The UK Health Security Agency has also issued its highest level four heat alert to health and care bodies.

It warned illness and death could occur "among the fit and healthy".

Downing Street said the alert was being treated as a national emergency, with officials continuing to meet on Friday and over the weekend to discuss the response.

It is the first time a red heat warning has been issued for parts of the UK, although the extreme heat warning system was only introduced in 2021.

From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62177458 (my emphasis in bold underlined)

 

 

See what they did there? Because this 'warning system' was only introduced last year, they can proudly announce this is "the first one", like this hot weather is "something new" and has never happened before.

 

Also the BBC masters of misinformation took the opportunity to throw this in:

 

Quote

The world has already warmed by about 1.1C since the latter half of the 18th century, and experts predict that temperatures will keep rising unless governments make steep cuts to emissions.

 

[DaleP]

Sir, your attention to detail is remarkable.

 

If you click on the video, he also managed to slip in how many people could die from this and the way he said it was comical. lol

[Doc]

40 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Heatwave: National emergency declared after UK's first red extreme heat warning

From: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-62177458 (my emphasis in bold underlined)

 

 

See what they did there? Because this 'warning system' was only introduced last year, they can proudly announce this is "the first one", like this hot weather is "something new" and has never happened before.

 

Also the BBC masters of misinformation took the opportunity to throw this in:

 

 

Ha. The BBC don't even use the Met Office for their weather forecasts anymore. They use a French company. What a load of alarmist bullsh*t. It's all about the fear. Yes, it's going to be hot, probably hotter than any of us have known, but it's going to be short lived. Yes people may die, but people die every day. Are there no institutions that haven't been co-opted into spreading FEAR? 

 

55 minutes ago, DaleP said:

 

You know zoo staff makes ice blocks for animals....including fruits for treats.

I've frozen grapes and that was lovely. I have frozen bottled water, banana and melon on the go as well.

Sounds like you have enriched your enclosure nicely Dale. You can knaw on frozen ice buckets with suspended fruits when you're finished on the tyre swing.

[Captainlove]

6 hours ago, Doc said:

I hate the heat too Dale. Craving winter at the moment. Monday/Tuesday will be dangerous for the elderly and the very young  On the plus side, the heat should be exiting UK shores by the end of Tuesday. Looks to be cooling down (relatively speaking) from the West by around midday Tuesday. Will still be hot from residual heat but looking at the weather forums should be back to UK average temps by Wednesday. Here's a photo of the 20c isotherm (temp at 5000ft, yellow bit) crossing UK at 6pm Tuesday.

 

 

Jesus wept what wrong with you. Its summer its meant to be warm. Go hide in a fridge.

[Grumpy Owl]

1 hour ago, DaleP said:

You know zoo staff makes ice blocks for animals....including fruits for treats.

I've frozen grapes and that was lovely. I have frozen bottled water, banana and melon on the go as well.

 

 

[Doc]

3 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

Jesus wept what wrong with you. Its summer its meant to be warm. Go hide in a fridge.

Nothing wrong with me. I just don't like heat above 25c. Plus I work outside so forgive me if I've offended you somehow.  Those temps are at 5000ft. Never before seen in the UK. Temps at 2m will be approaching 40c. That's not normal in the UK in summer. 

[DaleP]

1 hour ago, Captainlove said:

Jesus wept what wrong with you. Its summer its meant to be warm. Go hide in a fridge.

 

Now, children, don't try this at home. I heard that you can't open a fridge door once you are inside. You could suffocate!

[Captainlove]

2 hours ago, Doc said:

Nothing wrong with me. I just don't like heat above 25c. Plus I work outside so forgive me if I've offended you somehow.  Those temps are at 5000ft. Never before seen in the UK. Temps at 2m will be approaching 40c. That's not normal in the UK in summer. 

I not sure if your on the wrong forum, Its sounds to me as you believe in climate change. where i live in the UK its 21c no heat wave for me.

[Doc]

5 minutes ago, Captainlove said:

I not sure if your on the wrong forum, Its sounds to me as you believe in climate change. where i live in the UK its 21c no heat wave for me.

You ain't exactly brain of Britain if you think that I believe in climate change from my comment. You must be trolling me. Tell me you're trolling me.... The climate does what it wants, when it wants and it's nothing to do with humans burning stuff FFS.

I'm commenting on weather models and the current forecast. It's probably going to be hotter than it's ever been in the UK. I don't care what the cause of it is, it's not usual to get to 40c in the UK in summer is it?. Enjoy your 21c whilst I'm working outside all day in 37+ degree heat. Didn't realise the 'truth community' were so sensitive about the weather.

[eddy64]

yes it is going to be hotter than it usually is, whether its been hotter in the past i don't know.  but you cant trust old weather forecasts as the jokers appear to have been adjusting them afaik.

 

is the wind carrying the hot weather coming from an unusual direction does anybody know, is it an alteration of the Jetstream?

 

had a quick look but not sure:-

 

https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/jetstream

Edited July 15, 2022 by eddy64
add more info

[Doc]

17 minutes ago, eddy64 said:

yes it is going to be hotter than it usually is, whether its been hotter in the past i don't know.  but you cant trust old weather forecasts as the jokers appear to have been adjusting them afaik.

 

is the wind carrying the hot weather coming from an unusual direction does anybody know, is it an alteration of the Jetstream?

 

had a quick look but not sure:-

 

https://www.netweather.tv/charts-and-data/jetstream

It's just a freak occurrence Eddy. If you get  low pressure in the right place it will drag all the heat up from Africa into Spain and Europe. I'm just not looking forward to it coz I'll be outside working.