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Is There a Cure For Anxiety?


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33 minutes ago, RobinJ said:

Actually your response makes little sense and is contradictory.

If we live in a simulation, then that would tend to mean AI runs it all, not a 'god' per se.

God is a loaded term which sets people against each other.  If you still believe in a single all powerful god/ being/ devil then I am not the one asleep. Either way, believe what you want, its not my job to change your belief system.  

 

Either way, I am not choosing to be derogatory about your belief system or to prove I am right, and this discussion has nothing to do with anxiety.

BTW I am not depressed nor do I suffer from anxiety because I took the time to find out how my brain-heart connection works to overcome any negative outside influences so that I do not get sucked down that road to nowhere.

It has everything to do with "anxiety". And every other "ill'.

 

The ego cannot comprehend Truth. That's how and why Truth can and does operate within this thing. The ego is an inversion  and inverter of "self"-"reality".

We are either guided by The Spirit, or controlled by the ego. The "ego" is  "artificial-intelligence"(an oxymoron), fake, counterfeit.

Only The Spirit leads back to Reality.

 

"GOD" essentially means Governing Principle, if anyone does a reasonably objective appraisal of the nature of this world it's not hard to see what the governing principle/principles are.

The "ego" is a system of belief contrary to Truth, as this world is;  a contradiction to Reality=miscreation=fantasy-illusion-dream.

 

Looks like you're a member of the "positivity" cult... a "religion" also...nothing "wrong" with that...it's a trip....

 

 

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They admitted yesterday that depression is not caused by serotonin depletion & anti depressants ( mainly fluoride) theyve been prescribing for years are basically useless as a treatment ..like we didnt know already.

 

But they will fry your serotonin receptors like methamphetamine does & you become permanently depressed without & a total zombie with.

 

Trust the science.

 

 

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6 hours ago, oddsnsods said:

They admitted yesterday that depression is not caused by serotonin depletion & anti depressants ( mainly fluoride) theyve been prescribing for years are basically useless as a treatment ..like we didnt know already.

 

But they will fry your serotonin receptors like methamphetamine does & you become permanently depressed without & a total zombie with.

 

Trust the science.

 

Interesting. Do you have a reference for this, I'd like to read more about it. 

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32 minutes ago, oddsnsods said:

 

Thanks :) It's amazing how the establishment can push an idea for decades, and get away with it, while all the time the science behind it is flaky, to say the least. How come they only just noticed it now? I suspect that a lot of so-called science is based on conformity and group-think. 

I took an ssri once when I had depression, and it seemed to help, perhaps I was just lucky.

 

An aside, but by coincidence I was surprised the other day when I was researching some garden flowers I like called Lampranthus to discover it contains a naturally occurring ssri called mesembrenol. Perhaps I'll look further into herbal treatments if I get depressed again, lord knows there's enough cause for it these days. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampranthus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesembrenone 

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On 7/4/2022 at 12:41 AM, The OC said:

 

Mexicans use something called "Blues" to handle anxiety. I strongly recommend it from what I've seen. They be so tranquil that city buses, sirens or much of anything fail to draw them from their mental state of serenity.

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I still have anxiety but now it's very manageable. Although, long trips on car or bus can be somehow hard with bad breathing and choking feeling. Sometimes I get fear of vomiting but I'm able to relax or distract myself with something else.

 

Some years ago, it was extremely hard. I developed agoraphobia and many times, I was all day with the anxiety feeling. Some trips to my home town or to the beach could get very hard but I tried to take the trips as therapy.

 

I tried many things, some relaxation techniques, slow breathing, passionflower extracts, natural remedies, you know, but none worked.

 

What worked was sertraline, an antidepressant. That was the only thing that helped and yes, I think it improved my mood. I felt more confident, relaxed, and I think (I think) I didn't care too much about things!

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5 hours ago, Gluoniel said:

I still have anxiety but now it's very manageable. Although, long trips on car or bus can be somehow hard with bad breathing and choking feeling. Sometimes I get fear of vomiting but I'm able to relax or distract myself with something else.

 

Some years ago, it was extremely hard. I developed agoraphobia and many times, I was all day with the anxiety feeling. Some trips to my home town or to the beach could get very hard but I tried to take the trips as therapy.

 

I tried many things, some relaxation techniques, slow breathing, passionflower extracts, natural remedies, you know, but none worked.

 

What worked was sertraline, an antidepressant. That was the only thing that helped and yes, I think it improved my mood. I felt more confident, relaxed, and I think (I think) I didn't care too much about things!

 

Drugs are not the answer. The answer is to find the root of all the fear you feel or figure out where you learned that behaviour from. All the things you describe are progressions of fear. Learn to be in control of your own mind instead of allowing it to control you. Understanding why or how it manifests can often unlock the answer. 

There are so many ways to get over anxiety without brain suppressant drugs.

 

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On 7/23/2022 at 11:51 AM, Campion said:

 

Thanks :) It's amazing how the establishment can push an idea for decades, and get away with it, while all the time the science behind it is flaky, to say the least. How come they only just noticed it now? I suspect that a lot of so-called science is based on conformity and group-think. 

I took an ssri once when I had depression, and it seemed to help, perhaps I was just lucky.

 

An aside, but by coincidence I was surprised the other day when I was researching some garden flowers I like called Lampranthus to discover it contains a naturally occurring ssri called mesembrenol. Perhaps I'll look further into herbal treatments if I get depressed again, lord knows there's enough cause for it these days. 

 

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lampranthus

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mesembrenone 

I am almost of the opinion now that all pharma based medical science is based on flawed initial assumptions, thereby rendering the so called solutions more harmful than useful.

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Interesting, in agreement about ego at least.

 

I tend to side with positivity (and obviously not just b//c it is sweet n sugary STS)..... It's only ever a cultist thing SO TO SPEAK (**if** WE taint it with such a paradigm by embalming it distastefully with capricious ironies where none are needed if one knows their own mind sufficiently, then it's not a problem.... and that is helped by being mindful rather than spiraling into being overly self critical trap or where others may fall prey to that likewise if someone is trying to bring them down based on just a hypothesis as it were)... SO THEN going back to this if you brandish POSITIVITY a cult, it's pretty much an uncalled for paradigm OR to put more SIMPLY === TO LABEL IT seems a bit futile, as if the aim were to catch it leaking UNTRUTHS, in other words?? Well any mechanisms of the mind ought to be able to deal with that and as subtle as the mind is in some people, should therefore be auto-suggested by our innate ability to assess and see where best suited is a SELF prognosis were one necessary, ie, what is good and what is not, and what to expect from trying to be say a productive person......Kind or Unkind,... Helpful or not, etc...... BUT to go further (too far IMO) to label or call it a cult, seems unnecessary to me, with no discernable benefit for doing that about why POSITIVITY is somehow a cult....Saying that merely reframes it by some critical means and doesn't actually address the already largely non-issue (AI & MSM aside and all that), especially in regard to Self where we ourselves have control how we perceive what is good for us and are hopefully aware enough to make sound reasoning based on how we feel and interact with things that make us feel happy or sad, to process that HOW WE LIKE INDIVIDUALLY, or where somethings are perhaps better internalized ~ to maybe consider making more of our inner dialogue to this end if the outer world has little scope for true positivity to offer..

 

So basicly, (& its not like I haven't thought IN DEPTH about this, I HAVE many times, but have made my peace with such dualities for the most part).... I can only see it could be cultist in nature IF either one is brain-washed, OR if one goes into having what they think is positivity blindly or naively where lack of balance in one's life is maintained in order to understand what is HARD, what is SOFT, likewise what is POSITIVE, what is NEGATIVE, or in FLUX between the two.

 

 

###### Ps, Not being ignorant, but I did NOT address Anxiety in my above writing as that would have (in this instance) unnecessarily interfered with my thought process and ability to express simply. But of course I acknowledge Anxiety is of it self an important aspect of our lives. ######  

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Last but one paragraph now states peace as part of how I was able to resist fighting with myself over this kind of a thing.
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On 9/26/2022 at 8:42 AM, RobinJ said:

 

Drugs are not the answer. The answer is to find the root of all the fear you feel or figure out where you learned that behaviour from. All the things you describe are progressions of fear. Learn to be in control of your own mind instead of allowing it to control you. Understanding why or how it manifests can often unlock the answer. 

There are so many ways to get over anxiety without brain suppressant drugs.

 

 

This didn't work for me. I know it is only a psychological trigger of only thinking or remembering the anxiety feeling but even being conscious that it's only psychological wasn't enough to calm my mind.

 

Well, I think I needed to consult a psychologist, also. I didn't do that. I only consulted a psychiatrist and he only told me it was social phobia and prescribed pills.

 

At least in the present it's more manageable.

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20 hours ago, Gluoniel said:

 

This didn't work for me. I know it is only a psychological trigger of only thinking or remembering the anxiety feeling but even being conscious that it's only psychological wasn't enough to calm my mind.

 

Well, I think I needed to consult a psychologist, also. I didn't do that. I only consulted a psychiatrist and he only told me it was social phobia and prescribed pills.

 

At least in the present it's more manageable.

You cant expect a deep rooted emotional issue to cure in one episode of trying ( if thats what you mean by not working
?). Even pharma dont do that. Psychological issues take time to clear and you have to keep at it.

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Yeah, you are right. I needed to explore more the psychological and emotional side of anxiety. I didn't think it was about some emotional trauma, because I know what my traumas were and are. I think they aren't too traumatic, lol.

 

But well, it must not be so simple and I think you are right. I needed more guidance from a psychologist.

 

But don't think I didn't try psychological methods to overcome anxiety. I tried: slow breathing, breathing with the abdomen, tapping technique for stress relief, etc.

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20 hours ago, Gluoniel said:

Yeah, you are right. I needed to explore more the psychological and emotional side of anxiety. I didn't think it was about some emotional trauma, because I know what my traumas were and are. I think they aren't too traumatic, lol.

 

But well, it must not be so simple and I think you are right. I needed more guidance from a psychologist.

 

But don't think I didn't try psychological methods to overcome anxiety. I tried: slow breathing, breathing with the abdomen, tapping technique for stress relief, etc.

I would guess that you have to figure out what the trigger is for the anxiety. Often its not what we expect as a 'trauma' per se. Sometimes it can be something so small that you are not even aware of it, such as one offhand comment, but over time the fear response chemical makes the body addicted to it and as such other things get added to the mix and the original trigger gets lost which the  makes it more difficult to root out. Dod you ever try CBT? ( cognitive behavioural therapy) 

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I didn't try CBT.

 

3 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Often its not what we expect as a 'trauma' per se. Sometimes it can be something so small that you are not even aware of it, such as one offhand comment

 

You are right and that is a little scary 😄😮

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16 hours ago, Gluoniel said:

I didn't try CBT.

 

 

You are right and that is a little scary 😄😮

Thats where the answers lie though. And, breaking through the fear is a big part of the process. Once you break the fear pattern those things no longer affect you, and, thereby true freedom awaits....🙂 It really is worth the effort

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