Ethel Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 (edited) Long term Beatles fan here. I like the Faul theory but I don't buy a word of it. Allusions have made to Paul's face becoming thinner sometime around the late sixties. The Beatles were already millionaires many times over by this point, so I would posit that Macca got dentures around this time; it is a well-established fact that getting dentures slims the face right down. Many famous people get dentures, mainly because they look better than the real thing, in many cases. Edited August 8, 2022 by Ethel 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Earlier in the year I did some heavy research into the whole Paul is Dead thing. I read the Memoirs of Billy Shears. There are a number of stand out elements for me. Paul McCartney and one of his mates were arrested for attempted arson in Germany during their Hamburg phase. Finger prints were taken at the time. In the early 80's McCartney was caught trying to smuggle a large amount of weed into Japan, the authorities took finger prints and used Interpols database to cross match them with the set taken in Germany. They didn't match and the Japanese were outraged and accused the current McCartney of being an imposter. Another anecdote is that the current McCartney is 2" taller than he should be. Also, once you get an eye in you can instantly tell Paul from Faul. This channel is dedicated to the whole Paul is Dead phenomenon, there are literally hours of extensively researched material here. https://youtube.com/c/MikeWilliamsPaulIsDeadChannel The channel is run by a guy who was a lifelong Beatles fan. I've watched many hours of his stuff and although I do believe there is something seriously 'off' with the current Macca I am yet to be 100% convinced of what that 'offness' is. Dig in. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I recommend this video for a basic outline of the Paul/Faul story. It's 4 hours+ but worth the time investment if you find this subject catches your interest. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 2 hours ago, Doc said: Paul McCartney and one of his mates were arrested for attempted arson in Germany during their Hamburg phase. Finger prints were taken at the time. In the early 80's McCartney was caught trying to smuggle a large amount of weed into Japan, the authorities took finger prints and used Interpols database to cross match them with the set taken in Germany. They didn't match and the Japanese were outraged and accused the current McCartney of being an imposter. Another anecdote is that the current McCartney is 2" taller than he should be. Also, once you get an eye in you can instantly tell Paul from Faul. Thank you Doc, I missed making these very important points from the book earlier when making the OP sometime back. Yes, he was arrested and the fingerprints were found to be different. Peg leg Heather warned on the video that @JCP posted, that there was something she couldn't tell that would be too devasting to people, and that it was not infidelity, and she agreed to getting paid off - to protect herself. Look at the way this fella 'John Halliday' who is staying at Paul McCartney's birth home in Liverpool is absolutely the same face shape as Paul McCartney? With zero special effects - no skewing or computerised imput at all - he's even holding his beer in his left hand, like JPM would've. And, in particular, look at the nose (focusing on the nostrils/snout area) and ears (they are without a doubt a completely different persons ears - that cannot be denied, nobodys ears change that much in the space of a year) and also sharper jawline of Faul. Overall, very VERY similar overall face - but - Different fella. Video from JCP here: On 8/8/2022 at 12:06 AM, JCP said: If I were to guess, the story you posted is accurate, except I don't believe Paul died in a car crash. I think he left the band and was replaced by Bill Spears for what ever reason and then went quiet, ultimately becoming the custodian of his own childhood house. To me, the two tell tail signs are his ears, and height. Then there's the movie: Paul McCartney Really Is Dead: The Last Testament of George Harrison? https://tubitv.com/movies/566345/paul-mccartney-really-is-dead-the-last-testament-of-george-harrison This movie also said PM died in a car crash, but gives details about MI 6 involvement, their "handler" Maxwell, why Lennon was killed, etc. Edited August 9, 2022 by sickofallthebollocks spelling shite 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 The Heather Mills thing, and the fingerprints, are what stand out for me. After the Japan drugs bust he didn't tour for years did he. Said it was because of Lennon's murder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 4 hours ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Thank you Doc, I missed making these very important points from the book earlier when making the OP sometime back. Yes, he was arrested and the fingerprints were found to be different. Peg leg Heather warned on the video that @JCP posted, that there was something she couldn't tell that would be too devasting to people, and that it was not infidelity, and she agreed to getting paid off - to protect herself. Look at the way this fella 'John Halliday' who is staying at Paul McCartney's birth home in Liverpool is absolutely the same face shape as Paul McCartney? With zero special effects - no skewing or computerised imput at all - he's even holding his beer in his left hand, like JPM would've. And, in particular, look at the nose (focusing on the nostrils/snout area) and ears (they are without a doubt a completely different persons ears - that cannot be denied, nobodys ears change that much in the space of a year) and also sharper jawline of Faul. Overall, very VERY similar overall face - but - Different fella. Video from JCP here: Ok, so we've got a geezer who looks like Paul. But how do you get him singing and playing like Paul? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 21 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Ok, so we've got a geezer who looks like Paul. But how do you get him singing and playing like Paul? I think that the current Paul is a better musician than pre 1966 Paul. I don't think he had to learn to play like OG Paul coz he could easily already. As for learning to play left handed, that's a whole different situation. I'm a right handed guitar player and could NEVER switch to playing left. It melts your brain just trying. This is one of the flies in the ointment for me about the whole thing. Along with the Viv Stanshall thing, which I think is bollocks. But...once you start realising that the Beatles were not necessarily great musicians technically it seems less and less likely they wrote all their material. When did they even have time to be so prolific in writing new stuff when they were touring or making movies most of the year? This becomes especially evident post 1966 when they entered the psychedelic phase and stopped doing gigs all of a sudden. The leap in song writing sophistication is a leap too far for such a short space of time IMO. No amount of spiritual awakening or acid can do that. There are so many interesting points in Mike Williams videos. If you watch interviews with Macca pre Sept 1966 his voice and mannerisms are different from those after. It's very hard to put a finger on it but I'm sure something changed in late 1966. Like I said in an earlier post I'm convinced there is something dodgy about McCartney but I've not seen anything that makes me actually SEE what that is. Edited August 9, 2022 by Doc 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Doc said: I think that the current Paul is a better musician than pre 1966 Paul. I don't think he had to learn to play like OG Paul coz he could easily already. As for learning to play left handed, that's a whole different situation. I'm a right handed guitar player and could NEVER switch to playing left. It melts your brain just trying. This is one of the flies in the ointment for me about the whole thing. Along with the Viv Stanshall thing, which I think is bollocks. But...once you start realising that the Beatles were not necessarily great musicians technically it seems less and less likely they wrote all their material. When did they even have time to be so prolific in writing new stuff when they were touring or making movies most of the year? This becomes especially evident post 1966 when they entered the psychedelic phase and stopped doing gigs all of a sudden. The leap in song writing sophistication is a leap too far for such a short space of time IMO. No amount of spiritual awakening or acid can do that. There are so many interesting points in Mike Williams videos. If you watch interviews with Macca pre Sept 1966 his voice and mannerisms are different from those after. It's very hard to put a finger on it but I'm sure something changed in late 1966. Like I said in an earlier post I'm convinced there is something dodgy about McCartney but I've not seen anything that makes me actually SEE what that is. All plausible my friend. Have you seen the Beatles documentary Get Back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 minute ago, Morpheus said: All plausible my friend. Have you seen the Beatles documentary Get Back? It's plausible but bloody elusive mate. I haven't seen Get Back, I had ordered the BluRay but Amazon cancelled my order back in February saying the release had been delayed for a year. Dunno if it's out to buy yet as I kind of exhausted the whole Paul is Dead thing and lost interest...until @sickofallthebollocks started this thread. Would love to see Get Back. I'm quite a fan of the Beatles now, wasn't at all until I found out about the whole P.I.D thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD40 Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 minutes ago, Doc said: Would love to see Get Back. Part 1 https://seed122.bitchute.com/OazpXfPjPiDI/VtRgVuXpXNI0.mp4 Part 2 https://seed128.bitchute.com/OazpXfPjPiDI/6nygk4v6wTQA.mp4 Part 3 https://seed307.bitchute.com/OazpXfPjPiDI/K6m9aBEU0JJw.mp4 you can save from the links or watch 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Doc said: But...once you start realising that the Beatles were not necessarily great musicians technically This simply isn't true of McCartney or Harrison. Paul McCartney's basslines on the White Album, Abbey Road and Let it Be were among some of his best. The bassline on "I want you (she's so heavy) is absolutely incredible. McCartney could also play drums, guitar, piano and ukulele. George Harrison was also an above average lead guitarist in the Beatles latter years. John Lennon I admit was better known for his lyrics and persona than his musicianship. Ringo... Um, okay. Edited August 9, 2022 by Ethel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 7 minutes ago, Ethel said: This simply isn't true of McCartney or Harrison. Paul McCartney's basslines on the White Album, Abbey Road and Let it Be That was (very possibly not the OG McCartney on any of those albums Ethel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 Thing is, most of the main people who'd know are now gone. Lennon first, 1980. Then Linda, and George Harrison. I expect Jane Asher knows the truth, hence the abrupt end to their relationship in 66/67. And the older "Macca" gets, the more slack he's given for being extra vague about the past. Which he's always been, beyond platitudes and cliche. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: That was (very possibly not the OG McCartney on any of those albums Ethel. Okay... here are some questions to test this theory. 1.) Where and how did the Beatles find this Doppelganger on a planet of, at that time 3.5 billion people? 2.) Why not just announce Paul's death? 3.) Where are the testimonials from people whom met both "Pauls"? 4.) Was Linda McCartney (then Eastman) in on the switch? 5.) Were the original McCartney's family in on it? 6.) Are the replacement McCartney's family "in on it"? 7.) And doctors, dentists etc? 8.) What are the odds, roughly, of finding a doppelganger for someone whom also sounds identical to them on record, and also happens to be a musician? Give me mathematical odds, please! Edited August 9, 2022 by Ethel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 20 minutes ago, Ethel said: This simply isn't true of McCartney or Harrison. Paul McCartney's basslines on the White Album, Abbey Road and Let it Be were among some of his best. The bassline on "I want you (she's so heavy) is absolutely incredible. McCartney could also play drums, guitar, piano and ukulele. George Harrison was also an above average lead guitarist in the Beatles latter years. John Lennon I admit was better known for his lyrics and persona than his musicianship. Ringo... Um, okay. Well if the conspiracy is true it was 'Billy' playing on those albums Ethel. Billy is/was a bloody good musician. After 1966 he basically became the leader of the band, giving all the others musical direction. This can clearly be seen in the few clips I have seen from Get Back. He was the boss and seemed to have much more drive than the other three. You ever heard of Bernard Purdie the drummer? He's come out and said straight that he played on numerous Beatles hits along with other session musicians. It's a deep, deep rabbit hole once you get started. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Doc said: It's plausible but bloody elusive mate. I haven't seen Get Back, I had ordered the BluRay but Amazon cancelled my order back in February saying the release had been delayed for a year. Dunno if it's out to buy yet as I kind of exhausted the whole Paul is Dead thing and lost interest...until @sickofallthebollocks started this thread. Would love to see Get Back. I'm quite a fan of the Beatles now, wasn't at all until I found out about the whole P.I.D thing. It's on Disney plus if you have a mate who'll share the password. Try to watch it of you're a fan, it's good. It's very good, it shows you them basically writing their songs. One thing showed me was actually that Paul was not only the better musician, but he was also the better writer than John. If you've seen anthology, you hear Ringo and George basically saying that it would be Paul rounding them all up to record because the others (at the height of their fame) really didn't want to and always felt he was making them work. I do like things like this though, it adds more mystery to mysterious people. I think George's knife attack at his home as highly suspicious. That's for another thread entirely....... 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Doc said: Well if the conspiracy is true it was 'Billy' playing on those albums Ethel. Billy is/was a bloody good musician. After 1966 he basically became the leader of the band, giving all the others musical direction. This can clearly be seen in the few clips I have seen from Get Back. He was the boss and seemed to have much more drive than the other three. You ever heard of Bernard Purdie the drummer? He's come out and said straight that he played on numerous Beatles hits along with other session musicians. It's a deep, deep rabbit hole once you get started. That's exactly what I took from Get Back, he had the drive, imagination and skill. I can see why George got pissed off with them and went solo though Edited August 9, 2022 by Morpheus 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 I know @Ethel is a fan of the Beatles and just wanted to make it clear that I don't think that this theory takes away from the brilliance of The Beatles music. I have bought 5 Beatles albums since January. The songs are iconic and I can see why all my mates got into them back in the 90's Anthology times. I was listening to Sepultura back then.. Also, Im still in need of convincing that the theory is correct. The fingerprints though... And the story about the parental DNA test that McCartney refused a German woman that he had a fling/child with in Hamburg... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 hours ago, Morpheus said: Ok, so we've got a geezer who looks like Paul. But how do you get him singing and playing like Paul? Doc answered that way better than I could've mate. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 5 hours ago, Ethel said: Okay... here are some questions to test this theory. 1.) Where and how did the Beatles find this Doppelganger on a planet of, at that time 3.5 billion people? 2.) Why not just announce Paul's death? 3.) Where are the testimonials from people whom met both "Pauls"? 4.) Was Linda McCartney (then Eastman) in on the switch? 5.) Were the original McCartney's family in on it? 6.) Are the replacement McCartney's family "in on it"? 7.) And doctors, dentists etc? 8.) What are the odds, roughly, of finding a doppelganger for someone whom also sounds identical to them on record, and also happens to be a musician? Give me mathematical odds, please! Oh lovely Ethel! I know it's shit and it's the band you love - it's a band I loved and still do, even with all the new understanding I feel about them. I always loved them as a kid and and although when I heard about the P.I.D thing (I think in the late 90's) I thought "feeck offf" too! No way, bullshit etc..etc... I looked into it a little bit and then a friend lent me the 'memoirs of billy shears' and wether you choose to believe it or not, or somewhere in the middle, it's one hell of an interesting and thought provoking read. regarding your questions: (I'm going by memory here as I don't have the book with me) 1.) Where and how did the Beatles find this Doppelganger on a planet of, at that time 3.5 billion people? The music business even way back then was run by nefarius rich people, with many dark connections, alot of Jewish money. This Doppelganger was lined up, and ready to go (so to speak) We are told by the book (memoirs of Billy Shears) that the real Paul McCartney knew he was going to die, he had many premonitions of this before his death and he told many people including the band members and it's management that he knew hes was going to die very soon. This was common knowledge for those around him, he became obsessed with his ever closer death. It's very possible that certain freemasons connected with the music industry (including Alistair Crowley the well known Satanist) and the rich executives arranged the new McCartney and had William Shears pegged for the job a long time ago. The real Paul even met with Billy Shears once which was a very strange experience for him. 2.) Why not just announce Paul's death? Logical answer here, would mean the end of the beatles legacy, the establishment wanted the beatles to keep going, they were a tool of the establishment, also, more money! 3.) Where are the testimonials from people whom met both "Pauls"? There wasn't any, any that tried were simply laughed off, many that knew both of the Pauls in the music industry kept quiet about it including the Rolling Stones (who the beatles were very good friends with) ELton bloody John and the WHO. They also knew to keep quiet for fear of reprisal. 4.) Was Linda McCartney (then Eastman) in on the switch? Linda? - now, she was one of the new pauls wifes wasn't she? That right @Doc ?? So if she was one of the new pauls wife then she was aware of the switch. 5.) Were the original McCartney's family in on it? Yes - they were aware and rolled with it. 6.) Are the replacement McCartney's family "in on it"? No real extended family to speak of - his father was a high up freemason - that's all I know. So, yes, they were in on it. 7.) And doctors, dentists etc? They're piffle as you know, overpaid idiots that will do anything for money - especially if told to keep quiet by certain dark forces then that wouldn't be an issue. 8.) What are the odds, roughly, of finding a doppelganger for someone whom also sounds identical to them on record, and also happens to be a musician? Give me mathematical odds, please! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 17 minutes ago, sickofallthebollocks said: Oh lovely Ethel! I know it's shit and it's the band you love - it's a band I loved and still do, even with all the new understanding I feel about them. I always loved them as a kid and and although when I heard about the P.I.D thing (I think in the late 90's) I thought "feeck offf" too! No way, bullshit etc..etc... I looked into it a little bit and then a friend lent me the 'memoirs of billy shears' and wether you choose to believe it or not, or somewhere in the middle, it's one hell of an interesting and thought provoking read. regarding your questions: (I'm going by memory here as I don't have the book with me) 1.) Where and how did the Beatles find this Doppelganger on a planet of, at that time 3.5 billion people? The music business even way back then was run by nefarius rich people, with many dark connections, alot of Jewish money. This Doppelganger was lined up, and ready to go (so to speak) We are told by the book (memoirs of Billy Shears) that the real Paul McCartney knew he was going to die, he had many premonitions of this before his death and he told many people including the band members and it's management that he knew hes was going to die very soon. This was common knowledge for those around him, he became obsessed with his ever closer death. It's very possible that certain freemasons connected with the music industry (including Alistair Crowley the well known Satanist) and the rich executives arranged the new McCartney and had William Shears pegged for the job a long time ago. The real Paul even met with Billy Shears once which was a very strange experience for him. 2.) Why not just announce Paul's death? Logical answer here, would mean the end of the beatles legacy, the establishment wanted the beatles to keep going, they were a tool of the establishment, also, more money! 3.) Where are the testimonials from people whom met both "Pauls"? There wasn't any, any that tried were simply laughed off, many that knew both of the Pauls in the music industry kept quiet about it including the Rolling Stones (who the beatles were very good friends with) ELton bloody John and the WHO. They also knew to keep quiet for fear of reprisal. 4.) Was Linda McCartney (then Eastman) in on the switch? Linda? - now, she was one of the new pauls wifes wasn't she? That right @Doc ?? So if she was one of the new pauls wife then she was aware of the switch. 5.) Were the original McCartney's family in on it? Yes - they were aware and rolled with it. 6.) Are the replacement McCartney's family "in on it"? No real extended family to speak of - his father was a high up freemason - that's all I know. So, yes, they were in on it. 7.) And doctors, dentists etc? They're piffle as you know, overpaid idiots that will do anything for money - especially if told to keep quiet by certain dark forces then that wouldn't be an issue. 8.) What are the odds, roughly, of finding a doppelganger for someone whom also sounds identical to them on record, and also happens to be a musician? Give me mathematical odds, please! Not sure which thread it was, but also the proposal that no band has ever written their songs is far fetched mate. They were all produced by that one guy who got them all from Mozart and shit. Even Zeppelin. You were on that thread. Not saying this is shite either, but all the music from 60's/70's, what about blues etc? All the same? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted August 9, 2022 Share Posted August 9, 2022 (edited) Here's another question, why kill Paul to install another one? Makes no sense, especially if he didn't write the songs. Edited August 9, 2022 by Morpheus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sickofallthebollocks Posted August 9, 2022 Author Share Posted August 9, 2022 6 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Not sure which thread it was, but also the proposal that no band has ever written their songs is far fetched mate. They were all produced by that one guy who got them all from Mozart and shit. Even Zeppelin. You were on that thread. Not saying this is shite either, but all the music from 60's/70's, what about blues etc? All the same? Err.. can't remember that thread, might not have been me chap? 4 minutes ago, Morpheus said: Here's another question, why kill Paul to install another one? Makes no sense, especially if he didn't write the songs. Yeah, in the book (from memory) it doesn't say specifically - that Paul was killed in an intentional manner by a third party. In the book it says, OG Paul was driving around in his Aston Martin and picked up some pretty bird called Donna, and ended up crashing into some kind of post, totally fucking up one side of his head. Hence the part in the song 'he blew his mind out in a car' from the song 'a day in the life'.I need to get that book again.. .. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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