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On 7/5/2022 at 5:40 PM, Edgewood said:

 

You're right. There is a distinction between Jahweh and 'the Father' which Jesus alludes to.

 

I feel that the Old Testament is not a cohesive book...... but there are many different versions of God in it.

 

However you have an old testament prophet like Isaiah.....and he is very similar in personality to Jesus...

 

But God to me, is what Jesus said God was..... God is Light.


God exists within the quantum realm but expresses itself here through the power of light which animates and gives reality and consciousness to all living things.

 

Light isn't just something that comes on when you flick a switch. Light is the animation and eternal preservation of all reality. It exists beyond time and beyond space, but manifests in both.

 

Time and time again Jesus shows that he is aware of the quantum nature of the realm of God:

 

"The Kingdom of God is inside/within you (and all about you), not in buildings/mansions of wood and stone. (When I am gone) Split a piece of wood and I am there, lift the/a stone and you will find me."

When you split wood or lift a stone, you expose it to light.... That is where you will find God.

 

 The Kingdom of Heaven is like a grain of mustard seed, which a man took, and sowed in his field; which indeed is smaller than all seeds but when it is grown, it is greater than the herbs and becomes a tree, so that the birds of the air come and lodge in its branches.

 

When we die we should search for the light....the brightest we can bear....and entering into the light we will return to the higher dimension inside the sub-atomic quantum realm....out of which all of the universe has its origin like a flower sprouting from a seed.

 

 

 

 

For me personally, the term "God" is so tainted, that I find it ridiculous when someone speaks about the Creator and uses the term god.

 

The term "God" is the most often used when reffered to Yahweh, and that thing is not the Creator.

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On 6/24/2022 at 4:53 PM, Edgewood said:

 

It is possible to separate oneself from God.... Satanists for instance....... These people do specific acts and rituals to deliberately estrange themselves from God.....

 

And sadly for many, the effects carry through to the next world......


It is nice thinking that no harm can befall us spiritually because we are all God...or something.... but it just isn't true.

 

 

You know what isnt true? Your notion of god

 

Every being is divine and able to reach perfection

 

 

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apart from brainwashed christians there is also an occult reason as to why god/ israelites narrative is spread and reinforced by the elect or the so called chosen  ones, they feed of the collective worship of human beings, the elect promote and recruit energy towards themselves ( jesus/horus/jacob) and towards their father - that very same worship energy they recieve from the collective subconsiousness  ensures that they maintain thier "elevated" status at the expensive of the rest outside the elected click. these people dont give a fuck about humanity at large , but one day when humanities eyes are forceribly  opened the remaning parasites will have no choiche but to feed upon eachother , bunch of very wicked and sick vipers that plays chosen ones and righteous - in the end  when humanity is no longer entrapped in thier matrix they will  just like  ouroborous  eat their own tails 

 

 

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5 hours ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

You know what isnt true? Your notion of god

 

Every being is divine and able to reach perfection

 

 

 

Are you living in the same world as me?

 

It doesn't look like it.


Do you see much perfection and divinity?


Please dude...get a dictionary. Check your terminology.

 

I know what we are...... but it is far more obvious what we have become.

 

 

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1 hour ago, loady said:

apart from brainwashed christians there is also an occult reason as to why god/ israelites narrative is spread and reinforced by the elect or the so called chosen  ones, they feed of the collective worship of human beings, the elect promote and recruit energy towards themselves ( jesus/horus/jacob) and towards their father - that very same worship energy they recieve from the collective subconsiousness  ensures that they maintain thier "elevated" status at the expensive of the rest outside the elected click. these people dont give a fuck about humanity at large , but one day when humanities eyes are forceribly  opened the remaning parasites will have no choiche but to feed upon eachother , bunch of very wicked and sick vipers that plays chosen ones and righteous - in the end  when humanity is no longer entrapped in thier matrix they will  just like  ouroborous  eat their own tails 

 

 

 

 

If you think Jesus is something the elite created then you are the one who has been brainwashed.

 

 

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21 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 

 

If you think Jesus is something the elite created then you are the one who has been brainwashed.

 

 

 

no im not saying that the elites created jesus, im saying that jesus is a form of hermes or horus   a puppet and a pied piper  for  otherwordly forces  that feeds upon humaity and has done so since time began.

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31 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 

Are you living in the same world as me?

 

It doesn't look like it.


Do you see much perfection and divinity?


Please dude...get a dictionary. Check your terminology.

 

I know what we are...... but it is far more obvious what we have become.

 

 

perfection within the mind.

 

but as long as you believe the Bible you will be often confused? so much contradiction in the bible.

 

take some high dose of magic mushroom or LSD to realize that true spirituality is within yourself and everyone.

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32 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 

 

If you think Jesus is something the elite created then you are the one who has been brainwashed.

 

 

oh, so Jesus really turn water to wine, walked on water and the resurection? you believe this version of Jesus? 

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34 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 

 

If you think Jesus is something the elite created then you are the one who has been brainwashed.

 

 

 

the elites themselves are higher ranked slaves. pathetic trouser lifting faggots and kneeling idiots that think they are "elite"  theres absolutely zero difference between the gross and the subtle / the initiated man vs the uninitiated man from the standpoint of freedome  - the only difference between an intiated man and the unintiated one is how high  or how low they are situated within the ritual ladder that constitutes the reptilian matrix universe. both are enslaved just the same - the intiated man just has longer chains that allows for broader navigation thats all. 

 

i didnt mean to flatter the jacobites, they are pied pipers that sings to the tune of their serpent masters. any master will give his dogs  little treats..

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7 minutes ago, Youknownothingbutyou said:

oh, so Jesus really turn water to wine, walked on water and the resurection? you believe this version of Jesus? 

 

its symbolic mate, but religion dont want to tell the truth, they will loose adherers if they do. when the suns rays  reflect on the surface of a water stream  and its waves you could say that the sun walks on water. btw horus was called the lake strider.

 

jesus said he was the the morning star but so did lucifer .. good cop vs bad cop two sides of the same coin. 

 

 

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On 7/5/2022 at 12:03 PM, XelNaga said:

Well, that same "God" sacrificed his own son, right? 

 

Besides, just because people in that area were like that, doesn't mean that people were like that all around the world.

 

That is what you got wrong, there is no adversary, they are the same being. It's like in todays politics, controlled oposion. They all work for the same team.

 

People, wrongly, say that the biggest trick the devil ever pulled was that he convinced people that he is not real.

 

No, the biggest trick he ever pulled was that he tricked people into worshiping him as their "God".

 

astute remarks, such a shame very few thinks like you.

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1 hour ago, loady said:

 

no im not saying that the elites created jesus, im saying that jesus is a form of hermes or horus   a puppet and a pied piper  for  otherwordly forces  that feeds upon humaity and has done so since time began.

No.

The Truth Within. Jesus. The Real. You.

 

Screw all this horus, hermes bullshit,,and all the rest of Jordan Maxwell, and Zeitgeist crap. The Christ(Truth) is nothing like those fables and superstitions. Associating Jesus/Christ/The Son with that shit is damage-control...as is the roman church...

 

He has KILLED THE REINCARNATION GAME YOU DUMBFUCKS. Fear is ruling you and if you accept it then you will not be able to exit. The ego...is the imposter, the spell-caster....

You are falling for a second trap after the 1st has been exposed and dismantled.

 

You are being tricked into fearing Truth and Reality...again...

 

 

 

ps; I don't give a shit if  the word/name Jesus could look or sound like "hey zeus"....

 

I can assure YOU.....NOTHING can impersonate or stand in the way of TRUTH .

 

fuck your serpent bullshit that you have sooooo much FAITH in...

here's The Truth. Eternal.

 

 

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12 minutes ago, novymir said:

No.

The Truth Within. Jesus. The Real. You.

 

Screw all this horus, hermes bullshit,,and all the rest of Jordan Maxwell, and Zeitgeist crap. The Christ(Truth) is nothing like those fables and superstitions. Associating Jesus/Christ/The Son with that shit is damage-control...as is the roman church...

 

He has KILLED THE REINCARNATION GAME YOU DUMBFUCKS. Fear is ruling you and if you accept it then you will not be able to exit. The ego...is the imposter, the spell-caster....

You are falling for a second trap after the 1st has been exposed and dismantled.

 

You are being tricked into fearing Truth and Reality...again...

 

youre absolutley deluded. jesus is horus or hermes that is a fact! and he represents both the light and sun and the creators of the sun the reptilians. the sun or  light could be likened to the face /clothing  of the creator but the spirit  of the creator is the reptilian spirit.

 

its impossible to worship jesus without also worshipping his reptilian and luciferic father  amen.

 

 

 

before  you rant about amen meaning "so be it" let me refute that beyond any shadow of doubt  by saying that in hebrew amen means "God the rightful king"

 

and amen was carved into the pyramid of unas which predates the old testament by a great deal.

 

revelation 3:14

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

 

your the biggest shill on the forum novymir. youre also very wicked who worship luciferic forces.

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36 minutes ago, loady said:

 

youre absolutley deluded. jesus is horus or hermes that is a fact! and he represents both the light and sun and the creators of the sun the reptilians. the sun or  light could be likened to the face /clothing  of the creator but the spirit  of the creator is the reptilian spirit.

 

its impossible to worship jesus without also worshipping his reptilian and luciferic father  amen.

 

before  you rant about amen meaning "so be it" let me refute that beyond any shadow of doubt  by saying that in hebrew amen means "God the rightful king"

 

and amen was carved into the pyramid of unas which predates the old testament by a great deal.

 

revelation 3:14

And unto the angel of the church of the Laodiceans write; These things saith the Amen, the faithful and true witness, the beginning of the creation of God

 

your the biggest shill on the forum novymir. youre also very wicked who worship luciferic forces.

hehe....

 

That's you, and only you. And you will be bound to it. Have fun!

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It asks; " Who are you? Who is your Father?".

What does that imply?

 

What did He say? Elsewhere? It's the same ONE that David Icke calls PRIME REALITY.

 

 

Whoops! some more "reptilian" symbolism "they" don't like....activate it WITHIN---The Truth=The Real. Power. Indominitable.

 

 

 

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On 7/5/2022 at 2:25 AM, XelNaga said:

If by "God" you mean Abrahamic one (yahweh, allah), well than, he himself is an evil warlord, waging war against us.

 

God - OrthodoxWiki

The Orthodox Church teaches that we have knowledge of God, only because God has shown himself to his creation. God is the Lord and has revealed himself unto us; blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord (Ps 118:26-27). Also, God's self-revelation is found in His Son Jesus Christ, the fulfillment of the gradual and partial revelation of God in the Old Testament. Jesus is the one truly "blessed ... who comes in the name of the Lord."

 

God is holy

According to the Scriptures, and the experience of the saints of both the old and New Testaments, God is absolutely holy. This means literally that he is absolutely different and unlike anything or anyone else that exists. He is so unique and so perfect that his existence cannot be compared to any other existence. God is absolutely transcendent, "what he is, by essence and nature, is altogether beyond our comprehension and knowledge" (John of Damascus) .

One God, the Holy Trinity

Orthodox doctrine holds that God's unity or oneness is also not merely the mathematical or philosophical concept of "one". The Church teaches God as the Trinity. One God, three persons, Father, Son, And Holy Spirit, each of whom ‘dwells' in the other two, by virtue of a perpetual movement of love. God is not only a unity but a union.

It is the Church's teaching and its deepest experience that there is only one God because there is only one Father. The Son is born from the Father, and the Spirit proceeds from the Father, both in the same timeless and eternal action of the Father's own being. What the Father is, the Son and the Spirit are also. They share the divine nature with God the Father, being "of one essence" with him.

Just as the Father is "ineffable, inconceivable, invisible, incomprehensible, ever-existing and eternally the same" (Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom), so the Son and the Spirit are exactly the same. Every attribute of divinity which belongs to God the Father: life, love, wisdom, truth, blessedness, holiness, power, purity, and joy, belong equally as well to the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Father Almighty

In the Bible the term "God" with very few exceptions is used primarily as a name for God the Father. Thus, the Son is the "Son of God," and the Spirit is the "Spirit of God."

It is God, the Yahweh of Israel (the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) , whom Jesus Christ has claimed to be his Father. God Almighty is known as "Father" through his son Jesus Christ. Jesus taught man to call the Almighty God by the title of Father. Before Jesus no one dared to pray to God with the intimate name of Father. It was Jesus who said, "Pray like this: Our Father who art in heaven ..."

Maker of Heaven and Earth

The Orthodox doctrine of creation is that God has brought everything and everyone which exists from non-existence into being. The scriptural description of creation is given primarily in the first chapter of Genesis. The main doctrinal point about creation is that God alone is uncreated and ever-existing. Everything which exists besides God was created by him.

God is everywhere

The omnipresence of God is one of the divine attributes of the Creator particularly stressed in Church teachings. Loving the whole of his good creation, God dwells within the world that he has made because of his goodness and love for man. This is not to say that God "is" his creation, for he is more than that, God is above and outside his creation, yet he also exists within it.

We don't know God by his essence and nature, but his energies come down to us. God's energies, which are God himself, permeate all his creation, and we experience them in the form of deifying grace and divine light. Truly our God is a God who acts in history, intervening directly in concrete situations.

Incarnate God

God has come down to man, not only through his energies, but in his own person. The second person of the Trinity, ‘true God from true God,' was made man: "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:14).

This Incarnation of the Son, the Wisdom of God, as the Son of Man, is Jesus Christ.

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2 hours ago, novymir said:

It asks; " Who are you? Who is your Father?".

What does that imply?

 

What did He say? Elsewhere? It's the same ONE that David Icke calls PRIME REALITY.

 

 

Whoops! some more "reptilian" symbolism "they" don't like....activate it WITHIN---The Truth=The Real. Power. Indominitable.

 

 

 

 

 

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  1. Observations by the Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America On Mel Gibson's film "The Passion of Christ" - What's New on Goarch - Greek Orthodox Archdiocese of America
  2. A Review of “The Passion of the Christ” | PEMPTOUSIA
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God - OrthodoxWiki

The Orthodox Church teaches that we have knowledge of God, only because God has shown himself to his creation. God is the Lord and has revealed himself unto us; blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord (Ps 118:26-27). Also, God's self-revelation is found in His Son Jesus Christ, the fulfillment of the gradual and partial revelation of God in the Old Testament. Jesus is the one truly "blessed ... who comes in the name of the Lord."

 

God is holy

According to the Scriptures, and the experience of the saints of both the old and New Testaments, God is absolutely holy. This means literally that he is absolutely different and unlike anything or anyone else that exists. He is so unique and so perfect that his existence cannot be compared to any other existence. God is absolutely transcendent, "what he is, by essence and nature, is altogether beyond our comprehension and knowledge" (John of Damascus) .

One God, the Holy Trinity

Orthodox doctrine holds that God's unity or oneness is also not merely the mathematical or philosophical concept of "one". The Church teaches God as the Trinity. One God, three persons, Father, Son, And Holy Spirit, each of whom ‘dwells' in the other two, by virtue of a perpetual movement of love. God is not only a unity but a union.

It is the Church's teaching and its deepest experience that there is only one God because there is only one Father. The Son is born from the Father, and the Spirit proceeds from the Father, both in the same timeless and eternal action of the Father's own being. What the Father is, the Son and the Spirit are also. They share the divine nature with God the Father, being "of one essence" with him.

Just as the Father is "ineffable, inconceivable, invisible, incomprehensible, ever-existing and eternally the same" (Divine Liturgy of St. John Chrysostom), so the Son and the Spirit are exactly the same. Every attribute of divinity which belongs to God the Father: life, love, wisdom, truth, blessedness, holiness, power, purity, and joy, belong equally as well to the Son and the Holy Spirit.

Father Almighty

In the Bible the term "God" with very few exceptions is used primarily as a name for God the Father. Thus, the Son is the "Son of God," and the Spirit is the "Spirit of God."

It is God, the Yahweh of Israel (the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob) , whom Jesus Christ has claimed to be his Father. God Almighty is known as "Father" through his son Jesus Christ. Jesus taught man to call the Almighty God by the title of Father. Before Jesus no one dared to pray to God with the intimate name of Father. It was Jesus who said, "Pray like this: Our Father who art in heaven ..."

Maker of Heaven and Earth

The Orthodox doctrine of creation is that God has brought everything and everyone which exists from non-existence into being. The scriptural description of creation is given primarily in the first chapter of Genesis. The main doctrinal point about creation is that God alone is uncreated and ever-existing. Everything which exists besides God was created by him.

God is everywhere

The omnipresence of God is one of the divine attributes of the Creator particularly stressed in Church teachings. Loving the whole of his good creation, God dwells within the world that he has made because of his goodness and love for man. This is not to say that God "is" his creation, for he is more than that, God is above and outside his creation, yet he also exists within it.

We don't know God by his essence and nature, but his energies come down to us. God's energies, which are God himself, permeate all his creation, and we experience them in the form of deifying grace and divine light. Truly our God is a God who acts in history, intervening directly in concrete situations.

Incarnate God

God has come down to man, not only through his energies, but in his own person. The second person of the Trinity, ‘true God from true God,' was made man: "The Word became flesh and dwelt among us" (John 1:14).

This Incarnation of the Son, the Wisdom of God, as the Son of Man, is Jesus Christ.

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No, this is not true, as here they equate yahweh (who was obviously a physical being) with The Father that Jesus spoke about.

 

That is completely false.

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The Ancient World of course had a long tradition of human God-Kings, so it is possible that at least one of the 'Yahwehs' mentioned in the Old Testament was a human 'God King'. There are several times that 'angels' in the Old Testament appear to be human agents for this 'God King'. Two instances in particular, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, where the men of Sodom try to have sex with the male angels and the three men/angels who visit Abraham.

 

All very peculiar:

 

Three Men Visit Abraham

18 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the large trees of Mamre. Abraham was sitting at the entrance to his tent. It was the hottest time of the day. Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. So he quickly left the entrance to his tent to greet them. He bowed low to the ground.

He said, “My lord, if you are pleased with me, don’t pass me by. Let me get you some water. Then all of you can wash your feet and rest under this tree.  Let me get you something to eat to give you strength. Then you can go on your way. I want to do this for you now that you have come to me.”

“All right,” they answered. “Do as you say.”

So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. “Quick!” he said. “Get about 36 pounds of the finest flour. Prepare it and bake some bread.”

 Then he ran over to the herd. He picked out a choice, tender calf. He gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it.  Then he brought some butter and milk and the calf that had been prepared. He served them to the three men. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.

 “Where is your wife Sarah?” they asked him.

“Over there in the tent,” he said.

 Then one of them said, “I will surely return to you about this time next year. Your wife Sarah will have a son.”

Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him.  Abraham and Sarah were already very old. Sarah was too old to have a baby.  So she laughed to herself. She thought, “I’m worn out, and my husband is old. Can I really know the joy of having a baby?”

Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Will I really have a baby, now that I am old?’  Is anything too hard for me? I will return to you at the appointed time next year. Sarah will have a son.”

 Sarah was afraid. So she lied and said, “I didn’t laugh.”

But the Lord said, “Yes, you laughed.”

 

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50 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

The Ancient World of course had a long tradition of human God-Kings, so it is possible that at least one of the 'Yahwehs' mentioned in the Old Testament was a human 'God King'. There are several times that 'angels' in the Old Testament appear to be human agents for this 'God King'. Two instances in particular, the story of Sodom and Gomorrah, where the men of Sodom try to have sex with the male angels and the three men/angels who visit Abraham.

 

All very peculiar:

 

Three Men Visit Abraham

18 The Lord appeared to Abraham near the large trees of Mamre. Abraham was sitting at the entrance to his tent. It was the hottest time of the day. Abraham looked up and saw three men standing nearby. So he quickly left the entrance to his tent to greet them. He bowed low to the ground.

He said, “My lord, if you are pleased with me, don’t pass me by. Let me get you some water. Then all of you can wash your feet and rest under this tree.  Let me get you something to eat to give you strength. Then you can go on your way. I want to do this for you now that you have come to me.”

“All right,” they answered. “Do as you say.”

So Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah. “Quick!” he said. “Get about 36 pounds of the finest flour. Prepare it and bake some bread.”

 Then he ran over to the herd. He picked out a choice, tender calf. He gave it to a servant, who hurried to prepare it.  Then he brought some butter and milk and the calf that had been prepared. He served them to the three men. While they ate, he stood near them under a tree.

 “Where is your wife Sarah?” they asked him.

“Over there in the tent,” he said.

 Then one of them said, “I will surely return to you about this time next year. Your wife Sarah will have a son.”

Sarah was listening at the entrance to the tent, which was behind him.  Abraham and Sarah were already very old. Sarah was too old to have a baby.  So she laughed to herself. She thought, “I’m worn out, and my husband is old. Can I really know the joy of having a baby?”

Then the Lord said to Abraham, “Why did Sarah laugh? Why did she say, ‘Will I really have a baby, now that I am old?’  Is anything too hard for me? I will return to you at the appointed time next year. Sarah will have a son.”

 Sarah was afraid. So she lied and said, “I didn’t laugh.”

But the Lord said, “Yes, you laughed.”

 

 

There still is. You just don't know it. There are unbroken lineage of... to this day hence the DNA is being attacked.

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8 hours ago, The OC said:

Yeah, so?

Your post looks disingenuous since the film is not "disconnected" from the resurrection, it is the final scene in the film.

 

Also, it should be clear that I am not promoting the film, I am using a variety of methods and sources of communication to make illustrations, to communicate and offer something that cannot be spoken of literally, in the same way that parables, metaphor, and analogy is used.

 

So, since I am not promoting the film, nor am I attempting to dismiss it, I am not invested beyond what I was attempting to communicate in my post. But I guess you see something else...

 

 

 

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"The War Against God" is a laughable idea. And oh-so-grandiose ! It's the same as saying; "The War Against Reality".

Good luck with that sh-t.

They believe their delusions are "real"....

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8 minutes ago, novymir said:

"The War Against God" is a laughable idea. And oh-so-grandiose ! It's the same as saying; "The War Against Reality".

Good luck with that sh-t.

They believe their delusions are "real"....

There was and is no war. Just billions of immature young consciousnesses fighting against themselves. 

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