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"Experts" recently attributed the shocking rise in cancer and ill-health among Brits, and the lowering life-expectancy, on people being lazy and not eating properly. So it's their own fault.

 

Which, in a twisted way, it sort of is for being gullible enough to take the jabs. Which are obviously the real reason why.

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12 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

"Experts" recently attributed the shocking rise in cancer and ill-health among Brits, and the lowering life-expectancy, on people being lazy and not eating properly. So it's their own fault.

 

Which, in a twisted way, it sort of is for being gullible enough to take the jabs. Which are obviously the real reason why.

 

Would that be eating the ultraprocessed junk food which the same system is pushing on us, and especially our children with all the adverts so they can get two lots of profits, from the food industry and pharma? 

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I don't know how the fook this story made the national TV news the other day. I am sorry to hear about what happened to her, but WTF.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/tennis/articles/cn4y7d03924o

 

'Raducanu targeted by man 'exhibiting fixated behaviour'.'

 

Emma Raducanu says she will be OK after a "difficult experience" where she was targeted by a man who "exhibited fixated behaviour" at the Dubai Tennis Championships. An emotional Raducanu was seen hiding behind the umpire's chair two games into the second-round defeat by Karolina Muchova. The Women's Tennis Association (WTA) said the 22-year-old had been approached by a man who "exhibited fixated behaviour" on Monday and the same individual was "identified in the first few rows during Emma's match" on Tuesday. Raducanu alerted the chair umpire to the situation and was comforted by 14th seed Muchova as the individual was removed from court three.

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On 1/9/2025 at 8:00 PM, numnuts said:

I feel like tracking this guy down, taking him for a pint of beer and telling him 'Mate, just let it go'. Some time in the late 2000's I heard about Bitcoin mining. On the basis of 'I can't lose anything', I was going to look in to it. I never did though. Am I in the slightest bit bothered, if I had done, that I could now have hundreds of millions of pounds in my pockets? No, not at all. I would say exactly the same thing, if I was in this guy's shoes today. For me, it is somewhat reminiscent of 'The KLF' duo burning all of that money, then moaning about it years later. Who cares? It's done and dusted. Just let it go.

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cj0r0dvgpy0o

 

'Man told he can't recover £598m of Bitcoin from tip.'

 

A judge has thrown out a man's attempt to sue a council to recover from a rubbish tip a Bitcoin hard drive that is now worth about £598m. James Howells had argued that his former partner had mistakenly dumped the hard drive containing a Bitcoin wallet in 2013, and he wanted to access the site and recover the cryptocurrency. But Newport council asked a High Court judge to strike out Mr Howells' legal action to access the landfill or get £495m in compensation. Judge Keyser KC said there were no "reasonable grounds" for bringing the claim and "no realistic prospect" of succeeding at a full trial.

 

The end?

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yez74e74jo

 

'Landfill in £620m lost Bitcoin saga set to close.'

 

A landfill site where a man lost a hard drive containing a Bitcoin wallet now worth about £620m is set to close. James Howells, from Newport, claimed his former partner had mistakenly thrown out the hard drive containing 8,000 bitcoins in 2013. He tried to sue the city's council to get access to the site on Docks Way or get £495m in compensation, but this was dismissed by a judge. Newport council documents show the landfill site is expected to close in the 2025-26 financial year.

 

A council spokesman said: "The landfill has been in exploitation since the early 2000s and is coming to the end of its life, therefore the council is working on a planned closure and capping of the site over the next two years."

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Seems to be kicking off in Ireland. Probably coming to a western street near you the way things are going. 

 

The Irish definitely not a race I'd want to mess with....tough as nails that lot

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-14416593/Irish-migrant-powder-keg-Far-right-militias-rise-asylum-seekers-violence-machete-attacks-drug-brawls-Dublin.html

 

"Ireland has exploded into a wave of violence as anti-migrant anger is at an all time high - after the number of people applying to come into the country rocketed by nearly 300 per cent five years."

 

Shocking new videos show Dublin descending into chaos - with fighting thugs throwing themselves into busses, knife fights on their streets and mass brawls sparking in residential roads."

 

 

Problem, reaction, solution playing out before our eyes. 

After this reaction phase, solution: more control of you 

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Today (Feb 25th), most of the UK's national and local newspapers bore the same front and back page, advertising the MAKE IT FAIR campaign, concerning the overreach of AI into the creative industries. More fake fear of AI?

 

 

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AI is profiting from human creativity – isn’t it time creators got their fair share?

"Tech companies use creative content, such as news articles, books, music, film, photography, visual art, and all kinds of creative work, to train their generative AI models.

 

"Publishers and creators say that doing this without proper controls, transparency or fair payment is unfair and threatens their livelihoods.

 

"Yet the government wants to change the UK’s laws to favour tech platforms so they can use British creative content to power their AI models without permission or payment unless the creators specifically say “no.”

 

"Creators argue this puts the burden on them to police their work and that tech companies should pay for using their content.

 

"Tech giants should not profit from stolen content, or use it for free. The government must stand with the creative industries that make Britain great and enforce our copyright laws to allow creatives to assert their rights in the age of AI.

 

"A fair deal for artists and writers isn’t just about making things right, it is essential for the future of creativity and AI.

 

"We’re calling on the government to ensure creatives are rewarded properly so as to ensure a sustainable future for AI and the creative industries."

 

Make It Fair - News Media Association

 

"25 February 2025

 

"UK Creative Industries Launch ‘Make it Fair Campaign'


"The UK’s creative industries have today launched a bold campaign to highlight how their content is at risk of being given away for free to AI firms as the government proposes weakening copyright law. A government consultation seeking views on the copyright issue closes today.

 

"The ‘Make it Fair’ campaign was developed to raise awareness among the British public about the existential threat posed to the creative industries from generative AI models, many of which scrape creative content from the internet without permission, acknowledgement, and critically, without payment.

 

"The impact on creative businesses and individuals throughout the country – who collectively generate over £120 billion a year towards the UK economy – will be devastating if this continues unchecked, or worse still if the government legitimises this content theft.

 

"On 25 February, which is the last day of the government’s consultation, regional and national daily news brands are running the same cover wrap and homepage takeover.

 

https://newsmediauk.org/blog/2025/02/25/uk-creative-industries-launch-make-it-fair-campaign/

 

 

But not everyone is in total agreement with this campaign. The following article by the "The Drum" says that AI can enhance creativity:

 

"What if the UK media campaign to make AI fair hinders creativity in the long run"

 

"When the UK media come together to launch a campaign, you know it means business. I caught sight of the Make It Fair campaign in The Times this morning. The campaign from the News Media Association protests the UK government’s plan to potentially exempt AI firms from copyright restrictions when training their models.

The argument?

 

"That it will “orchestrate the transfer of wealth” from Britain’s creative industries to Silicon Valley, as Baroness Kidron put it. Nobel laureates, rockstars, playwrights, and journalists have lined up to denounce the policy as theft, as if Rishi Sunak himself were sneaking into Sir Keir Starmer vault to pilfer Hey Jude.

 

"Why should AI firms get to use copyrighted material for free when artists, musicians, and writers rely on those rights for their livelihood? Why should UK-based AI firms that try to license data be undercut by global competitors that scrape freely?

 

"And yet, while the concerns are valid, the bigger question remains: what kind of future do we want for AI and the creative industries?

 

"Because like it or not, AI is coming. It is already being trained on copyrighted work, largely outside the UK, in legal grey zones where creators have even less control. The government’s policy - while blunt - at least provides a framework for engagement, rather than legislating Britain out of the AI race entirely.

 

"Clinging to the past doesn’t save industries - it kills them. The same logic applies to AI and copyright. If the creative sector wants to remain at the forefront of culture, it can’t just demand protections - it needs to adapt."

 

https://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2025/02/25/what-if-the-uk-media-campaign-make-ai-fair-hinders-creativity-the-long-run

 

 

So who are the News Media Association?

 

The News Media Association is a trade body which styles itself as "the voice of national, regional and local news media organisations in the UK". It was created in 2014 by a merger between the Newspaper Society and the Newspaper Publishers' Association. The Newspaper Society, which represented local papers in the United Kingdom, was founded in 1836 and the Newspaper Publishers' Association, which represented national publishers, in 1904.[1] The current chief executive is Owen Meredith.

 

 

The NMA promotes the interests of news media publishers to government, regulatory authorities, industry bodies and other organisations whose work affects the industry. Members include The Sun, The Guardian, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Yorkshire Post, Kent Messenger, Monmouthshire Beacon and the Manchester Evening News.[2] The organisation represents digital as well as print based media. It supports the Independent Publishers' Forum.[3]

 

The NMA's policy focuses on sustaining the news media sector as well as safeguarding press freedom in the UK. Current policy objectives include the introduction of short-term measures to support local news media's transition to a sustainable digital-first business model, as well as campaigning for the Digital Markets, Competition and Consumer Bill to be enacted without delay so as to give the Digital Markets Unit the powers it needs to tackle the structural problems caused by the tech platforms in the digital marketplace and bring about real reform to promote genuine competition.

 

In April 2020, the NMA announced it would be partnering with the Government on "a three-month advertising partnership to help keep the public safe and the nation united throughout the Covid-19 pandemic".[5][6]

 

The current chief executive, Owen Meredith, was National Chairman of the Tory Reform Group, a grouping, he wrote, "...within the Conservative Party, boasting among its members and patrons’ former Prime Ministers Sir John Major CH, Rt Hon David Cameron MP, the former Chancellor Rt Hon Kenneth Clarke CH QC MP, serving Members of the Cabinet, Members of Parliament, Members of the House of Lords, Councillors and Parliamentary Candidates. The home of One Nation Conservatives for over 40 years, the TRG has been the driving force behind the modernising centrist agenda within the Conservative Party."

 

Meredith wrote about AI and the Labour Party:

 

"Owen Meredith: Defending property and our culture heritage against Labour vandalism should be a basic Tory aim"

 

"A reliable supply of high-quality, English language content is central to future innovation in generative AI, and there is the potential for the UK to lead the world in this lucrative new market. Trustworthy news content is also essential in the ‘inference’ or ‘grounding’ process, where AI models search the web in real-time for information that can bring the model up to date, making a far more valuable product, and reduce the chance of harmful hallucinations, making the AI model far safer.

 

"But that aspiration cannot become a reality if Labour goes ahead with plans to introduce a sweeping copyright exception which requires creators to ‘opt-out’ of having their content used for free. This made sound like a dull and technical measure that is ‘deregulatory’ and supports growth and innovation. But scratch below the headline and it’s anything but.

 

"The proposed ‘opt-out’ regime for ‘text and data mining’ – the method used by generative AI firms to hoover up the content which fuels their models – is entirely unworkable, deeply regressive, and would put a huge burden on creators – including the smallest film producers, publishers and artists – to defend themselves against the might of Big Tech. In those conditions, what hope would self-employed creatives or SMEs have of asserting their rights?

 

"In any case, weakening copyright law would not attract more generative AI investment; factors like energy costs, Labour’s burdensome employment laws, and access to skills are way more significant. The explosion in ‘small language models’ like DeepSeek has blown a hole in the Big Tech line that access to immense volumes of data (and huge amounts of electricity and computer chips) is a prerequisite to building a useful AI tool.

 

"It is the quality of data that matters, and it is this valuable high-quality data that the UK creative industries excel in producing.British AI firms innovating in science, medicine, and climate change do not need free-reign access to copyrighted content to thrive.

 

"The English Parliamentarians who first created copyright in 1709 would find it very odd to hear it now being re-framed as an intrusive regulation or stifling of free speech. Their ‘Act for the Encouragement of Learning’ was the ultimate deregulatory measure. It finally released content from the shackles of the Crown and allowed everyone to own their thoughts and creations, rather than the state.

 

"Once everyone had this new ”intellectual property” they could buy, sell and licence it to others. This not only created wealth, jobs and tax income, but it also gave rise to a widespread intellectual commons that powered the Enlightenment. The system was so successful, it was copied by countries around the world.

 

"It’s time for Kemi Badenoch and the Conservative front bench to seize the initiative. The Conservatives must develop policies with a broad appeal.

 

"Defending the creative industries against the AI robber barons is immensely popular: polling released by the Creative Rights in AI Coalition shows that 72 per cent of the population think AI companies should pay for the content used to train their models, while 80 per cent said AI companies should be required to make public all the information that their models have been trained upon.

 

"If Conservatives truly believe in free speech and open markets, then let’s support the copyright that gave rise to the knowledge-based economy we know and love. And fight to ensure that no platform, business, person or government can own our ideas or use our thoughts without first getting our permission.

 

"Our British creative sectors are a jewel in the crown of our proud nation. It’s time to stand up and defend them. To do otherwise would not only betray our cultural heritage, but also thoroughly undermine the Conservative’s claim to be the party of economic competence."

 

https://conservativehome.com/2025/02/25/owen-meredith-defending-property-and-our-culture-heritage-against-ai-should-be-a-basic-tory-aim/

 

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The News Media Association is a trade body which styles itself as "the voice of national, regional and local news media organisations in the UK". It was created in 2014 by a merger between the Newspaper Society and the Newspaper Publishers' Association. The Newspaper Society, which represented local papers in the United Kingdom, was founded in 1836 and the Newspaper Publishers' Association, which represented national publishers, in 1904.[1] The current chief executive is Owen Meredith.

 

 

The NMA promotes the interests of news media publishers to government, regulatory authorities, industry bodies and other organisations whose work affects the industry. Members include The Sun, The Guardian, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Yorkshire Post, Kent Messenger, Monmouthshire Beacon and the Manchester Evening News.[2] The organisation represents digital as well as print based media. It supports the Independent Publishers' Forum.[3]

 

The NMA's policy focuses on sustaining the news media sector as well as safeguarding press freedom in the UK. Current policy objectives include the introduction of short-term measures to support local news media's transition to a sustainable digital-first business model, as well as campaigning for the Digital Markets, Competition and Consumer Bill to be enacted without delay so as to give the Digital Markets Unit the powers it needs to tackle the structural problems caused by the tech platforms in the digital marketplace and bring about real reform to promote genuine competition.

 

They're only concerned about this because they know at some point these newspapers and websites won't need 'journalists' to churn out click-bait articles just so they can get 'eyeballs on adverts', it'll be far cheaper - and thus more profitable - to have news content generated by AI.

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They're only concerned about this because they know at some point these newspapers and websites won't need 'journalists' to churn out click-bait articles just so they can get 'eyeballs on adverts', it'll be far cheaper - and thus more profitable - to have news content generated by AI.

Reckon it's already happening that way.

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'Theranos founder Elizabeth Holmes loses fraud appeal.'

 

Theranos founder and former chief executive Elizabeth Holmes has lost an appeal against her conviction for defrauding investors in her blood-testing company. Holmes was sentenced to more than 11 years in prison. In her appeal, she challenged trial evidence and testimony and argued that statements by her ex-business and romantic partner Ramesh "Sunny" Balwani about his level of responsibility for Theranos' financial model should have been included. He was jailed for more than 12 years. The Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals rejected the arguments.

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On 2/25/2025 at 3:06 PM, Grumpy Grapes said:

 

Today (Feb 25th), most of the UK's national and local newspapers bore the same front and back page, advertising the MAKE IT FAIR campaign, concerning the overreach of AI into the creative industries. More fake fear of AI?

 

 

Make-it-Fair-montage--1024x1005.jpg.webp

 

 

AI is profiting from human creativity – isn’t it time creators got their fair share?

"Tech companies use creative content, such as news articles, books, music, film, photography, visual art, and all kinds of creative work, to train their generative AI models.

 

"Publishers and creators say that doing this without proper controls, transparency or fair payment is unfair and threatens their livelihoods.

 

"Yet the government wants to change the UK’s laws to favour tech platforms so they can use British creative content to power their AI models without permission or payment unless the creators specifically say “no.”

 

"Creators argue this puts the burden on them to police their work and that tech companies should pay for using their content.

 

"Tech giants should not profit from stolen content, or use it for free. The government must stand with the creative industries that make Britain great and enforce our copyright laws to allow creatives to assert their rights in the age of AI.

 

"A fair deal for artists and writers isn’t just about making things right, it is essential for the future of creativity and AI.

 

"We’re calling on the government to ensure creatives are rewarded properly so as to ensure a sustainable future for AI and the creative industries."

 

Make It Fair - News Media Association

 

"25 February 2025

 

"UK Creative Industries Launch ‘Make it Fair Campaign'


"The UK’s creative industries have today launched a bold campaign to highlight how their content is at risk of being given away for free to AI firms as the government proposes weakening copyright law. A government consultation seeking views on the copyright issue closes today.

 

"The ‘Make it Fair’ campaign was developed to raise awareness among the British public about the existential threat posed to the creative industries from generative AI models, many of which scrape creative content from the internet without permission, acknowledgement, and critically, without payment.

 

"The impact on creative businesses and individuals throughout the country – who collectively generate over £120 billion a year towards the UK economy – will be devastating if this continues unchecked, or worse still if the government legitimises this content theft.

 

"On 25 February, which is the last day of the government’s consultation, regional and national daily news brands are running the same cover wrap and homepage takeover.

 

https://newsmediauk.org/blog/2025/02/25/uk-creative-industries-launch-make-it-fair-campaign/

 

 

But not everyone is in total agreement with this campaign. The following article by the "The Drum" says that AI can enhance creativity:

 

"What if the UK media campaign to make AI fair hinders creativity in the long run"

 

"When the UK media come together to launch a campaign, you know it means business. I caught sight of the Make It Fair campaign in The Times this morning. The campaign from the News Media Association protests the UK government’s plan to potentially exempt AI firms from copyright restrictions when training their models.

The argument?

 

"That it will “orchestrate the transfer of wealth” from Britain’s creative industries to Silicon Valley, as Baroness Kidron put it. Nobel laureates, rockstars, playwrights, and journalists have lined up to denounce the policy as theft, as if Rishi Sunak himself were sneaking into Sir Keir Starmer vault to pilfer Hey Jude.

 

"Why should AI firms get to use copyrighted material for free when artists, musicians, and writers rely on those rights for their livelihood? Why should UK-based AI firms that try to license data be undercut by global competitors that scrape freely?

 

"And yet, while the concerns are valid, the bigger question remains: what kind of future do we want for AI and the creative industries?

 

"Because like it or not, AI is coming. It is already being trained on copyrighted work, largely outside the UK, in legal grey zones where creators have even less control. The government’s policy - while blunt - at least provides a framework for engagement, rather than legislating Britain out of the AI race entirely.

 

"Clinging to the past doesn’t save industries - it kills them. The same logic applies to AI and copyright. If the creative sector wants to remain at the forefront of culture, it can’t just demand protections - it needs to adapt."

 

https://www.thedrum.com/opinion/2025/02/25/what-if-the-uk-media-campaign-make-ai-fair-hinders-creativity-the-long-run

 

 

So who are the News Media Association?

 

The News Media Association is a trade body which styles itself as "the voice of national, regional and local news media organisations in the UK". It was created in 2014 by a merger between the Newspaper Society and the Newspaper Publishers' Association. The Newspaper Society, which represented local papers in the United Kingdom, was founded in 1836 and the Newspaper Publishers' Association, which represented national publishers, in 1904.[1] The current chief executive is Owen Meredith.

 

 

The NMA promotes the interests of news media publishers to government, regulatory authorities, industry bodies and other organisations whose work affects the industry. Members include The Sun, The Guardian, Daily Mail, Daily Mirror, Yorkshire Post, Kent Messenger, Monmouthshire Beacon and the Manchester Evening News.[2] The organisation represents digital as well as print based media. It supports the Independent Publishers' Forum.[3]

 

The NMA's policy focuses on sustaining the news media sector as well as safeguarding press freedom in the UK. Current policy objectives include the introduction of short-term measures to support local news media's transition to a sustainable digital-first business model, as well as campaigning for the Digital Markets, Competition and Consumer Bill to be enacted without delay so as to give the Digital Markets Unit the powers it needs to tackle the structural problems caused by the tech platforms in the digital marketplace and bring about real reform to promote genuine competition.

 

In April 2020, the NMA announced it would be partnering with the Government on "a three-month advertising partnership to help keep the public safe and the nation united throughout the Covid-19 pandemic".[5][6]

 

The current chief executive, Owen Meredith, was National Chairman of the Tory Reform Group, a grouping, he wrote, "...within the Conservative Party, boasting among its members and patrons’ former Prime Ministers Sir John Major CH, Rt Hon David Cameron MP, the former Chancellor Rt Hon Kenneth Clarke CH QC MP, serving Members of the Cabinet, Members of Parliament, Members of the House of Lords, Councillors and Parliamentary Candidates. The home of One Nation Conservatives for over 40 years, the TRG has been the driving force behind the modernising centrist agenda within the Conservative Party."

 

Meredith wrote about AI and the Labour Party:

 

"Owen Meredith: Defending property and our culture heritage against Labour vandalism should be a basic Tory aim"

 

"A reliable supply of high-quality, English language content is central to future innovation in generative AI, and there is the potential for the UK to lead the world in this lucrative new market. Trustworthy news content is also essential in the ‘inference’ or ‘grounding’ process, where AI models search the web in real-time for information that can bring the model up to date, making a far more valuable product, and reduce the chance of harmful hallucinations, making the AI model far safer.

 

"But that aspiration cannot become a reality if Labour goes ahead with plans to introduce a sweeping copyright exception which requires creators to ‘opt-out’ of having their content used for free. This made sound like a dull and technical measure that is ‘deregulatory’ and supports growth and innovation. But scratch below the headline and it’s anything but.

 

"The proposed ‘opt-out’ regime for ‘text and data mining’ – the method used by generative AI firms to hoover up the content which fuels their models – is entirely unworkable, deeply regressive, and would put a huge burden on creators – including the smallest film producers, publishers and artists – to defend themselves against the might of Big Tech. In those conditions, what hope would self-employed creatives or SMEs have of asserting their rights?

 

"In any case, weakening copyright law would not attract more generative AI investment; factors like energy costs, Labour’s burdensome employment laws, and access to skills are way more significant. The explosion in ‘small language models’ like DeepSeek has blown a hole in the Big Tech line that access to immense volumes of data (and huge amounts of electricity and computer chips) is a prerequisite to building a useful AI tool.

 

"It is the quality of data that matters, and it is this valuable high-quality data that the UK creative industries excel in producing.British AI firms innovating in science, medicine, and climate change do not need free-reign access to copyrighted content to thrive.

 

"The English Parliamentarians who first created copyright in 1709 would find it very odd to hear it now being re-framed as an intrusive regulation or stifling of free speech. Their ‘Act for the Encouragement of Learning’ was the ultimate deregulatory measure. It finally released content from the shackles of the Crown and allowed everyone to own their thoughts and creations, rather than the state.

 

"Once everyone had this new ”intellectual property” they could buy, sell and licence it to others. This not only created wealth, jobs and tax income, but it also gave rise to a widespread intellectual commons that powered the Enlightenment. The system was so successful, it was copied by countries around the world.

 

"It’s time for Kemi Badenoch and the Conservative front bench to seize the initiative. The Conservatives must develop policies with a broad appeal.

 

"Defending the creative industries against the AI robber barons is immensely popular: polling released by the Creative Rights in AI Coalition shows that 72 per cent of the population think AI companies should pay for the content used to train their models, while 80 per cent said AI companies should be required to make public all the information that their models have been trained upon.

 

"If Conservatives truly believe in free speech and open markets, then let’s support the copyright that gave rise to the knowledge-based economy we know and love. And fight to ensure that no platform, business, person or government can own our ideas or use our thoughts without first getting our permission.

 

"Our British creative sectors are a jewel in the crown of our proud nation. It’s time to stand up and defend them. To do otherwise would not only betray our cultural heritage, but also thoroughly undermine the Conservative’s claim to be the party of economic competence."

 

https://conservativehome.com/2025/02/25/owen-meredith-defending-property-and-our-culture-heritage-against-ai-should-be-a-basic-tory-aim/

 

 

I doubt they would be saying that for when AI replaces IT jobs. In fact no one cared when AI jobs were outsourced to another country or when AI takes the jobs so why should anyone care about "creative" jobs. 

 

 

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'Denmark postal service to stop delivering letters.'

 

Denmark's state-run postal service, PostNord, is to end all letter deliveries at the end of 2025, citing a 90% decline in letter volumes since the start of the century. The decision brings to an end 400 years of the company's letter service. Denmark's 1,500 post boxes will start to disappear from the start of June. Transport Minister Thomas Danielsen sought to reassure Danes, saying letters would still be sent and received as "there is a free market for both letters and parcels". Postal services across Europe are grappling with the decline in letter volumes. Germany's Deutsche Post said on Thursday it was axing 8,000 jobs, in what it called a "socially responsible manner". Deutsche Post has 187,000 employees and staff representatives said they feared more cuts were to come.

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'Denmark postal service to stop delivering letters.'

 

Denmark's state-run postal service, PostNord, is to end all letter deliveries at the end of 2025, citing a 90% decline in letter volumes since the start of the century. The decision brings to an end 400 years of the company's letter service. Denmark's 1,500 post boxes will start to disappear from the start of June. Transport Minister Thomas Danielsen sought to reassure Danes, saying letters would still be sent and received as "there is a free market for both letters and parcels". Postal services across Europe are grappling with the decline in letter volumes. Germany's Deutsche Post said on Thursday it was axing 8,000 jobs, in what it called a "socially responsible manner". Deutsche Post has 187,000 employees and staff representatives said they feared more cuts were to come.


As a postie myself… it’s no surprise. The letters have dwindled for years now. Sure, you have Christmas cards and the council tax letters and such but most the time it’s just junk. The wage has almost been dragged down to minimum wage now as well.

Parcels are where the money is. I think last time I heard Royal Mail were trying to get it down to 3 or 4 day letter service but now I think have agreed to keep first class letters every day and other mail every other day (or something). That’s why the first class stamp is always going up in price. Force everyone to go second class and then deliver it every other day.

 

It would help if we had a decent union but the CWU and Royal Mail are in bed with one another.

 

 

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ckg8jllq283o

 

'Denmark postal service to stop delivering letters.'

 

Denmark's state-run postal service, PostNord, is to end all letter deliveries at the end of 2025, citing a 90% decline in letter volumes since the start of the century. The decision brings to an end 400 years of the company's letter service. Denmark's 1,500 post boxes will start to disappear from the start of June. Transport Minister Thomas Danielsen sought to reassure Danes, saying letters would still be sent and received as "there is a free market for both letters and parcels". Postal services across Europe are grappling with the decline in letter volumes. Germany's Deutsche Post said on Thursday it was axing 8,000 jobs, in what it called a "socially responsible manner". Deutsche Post has 187,000 employees and staff representatives said they feared more cuts were to come.

Literally killing off their own business. Obviously the drive to go digital everything. Next stop post office payment systems for bills etc.

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On 11/28/2024 at 2:49 PM, webtrekker said:

Oh dear! How sad! Never mind ...

 

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Flamin' Heck neighbours say maybe it was an ex old flame of his?       images-2025-03-07T193524_311.jpg.a8903933a31f332aea651a5dc6449a85.jpg    Perhaps they were 'hot stuff' at first, but his constant playing the record 'Smoke Gets In Your Eyes' over and over, all day, every day, finally extinguished any love she had for him? After all what was wrong with her musical choice 'I Don't Want To Set The World On Fire' by The ink Spots?

Police have ruled her out saying that she moved to the U.K. several years ago and now resides in Burnham on Sea in Somerset!🤔

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On 2/24/2025 at 1:38 PM, numnuts said:

 

The end?

 

 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5yez74e74jo

 

'Landfill in £620m lost Bitcoin saga set to close.'

 

A landfill site where a man lost a hard drive containing a Bitcoin wallet now worth about £620m is set to close. James Howells, from Newport, claimed his former partner had mistakenly thrown out the hard drive containing 8,000 bitcoins in 2013. He tried to sue the city's council to get access to the site on Docks Way or get £495m in compensation, but this was dismissed by a judge. Newport council documents show the landfill site is expected to close in the 2025-26 financial year.

 

A council spokesman said: "The landfill has been in exploitation since the early 2000s and is coming to the end of its life, therefore the council is working on a planned closure and capping of the site over the next two years."

One of the landfill operatives told reporters 'that man is just crazy there never was a hard drive in the first place'! 🥴Then his chauffer arrived in his Lamborghini to drive him back to his newly acquired ten bedroomed mansion and his own private beachfront where is new wifecolor-photo-young-chinese-girl-around-20-years-old-with-lovely-sweet-smile_148840-61160.jpg.845a9fa785456508c96cbc7ffff9e883.jpg      Wei Tu Yung was hosting a beach barbeque for 200 guests!🤫🤔

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11 hours ago, RobinJ said:

Literally killing off their own business. Obviously the drive to go digital everything. Next stop post office payment systems for bills etc.

Think I see Halleys Comet more often than my postie these days.

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6 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Think I see Halleys Comet more often than my postie these days.


What I would say, in defence of the humble postie, is that the people we deliver to have changed as well.

 

There are less cards being sent. Much less personal letters. Most folk nowadays prefer to send a meme or gif than a hand written personal note.

 

But also, when I first started most people were actually in their homes when I delivered. Usually it was around breakfast time. Nowadays, you have families that are barely at home because they are all at work trying to pay off their mortgage. Especially those who decided to live in a new build where the mortgage is 50 years long.

 

And I find that the old generation, who were slain during the pandemic, used to like to talk to me. The new generation have no interest. I’m lucky to get a “good morning” from them.

 

And back in the day I would often stand and chat for half an hour but now if you stand still for more than s couple of minutes our gaffer is alerted (as we are tracked) and he rushes over with his dogs and P45.

 

I would go one further than the current changes being made. I would say the stamp only guarantees the letter will arrive at the local delivery office to the recipient. The public can collect it any day. If they want to have it personally delivered they have to pay extra still. 
But they must show their valid ID badge to get the mail which must be up to with vaccinations. This will also ensure no nefarious activities could go unchecked. And with the vans being used less it would also save the climate. Tony Blair will love this.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Mazthehobo said:


What I would say, in defence of the humble postie, is that the people we deliver to have changed as well.

 

There are less cards being sent. Much less personal letters. Most folk nowadays prefer to send a meme or gif than a hand written personal note.

 

But also, when I first started most people were actually in their homes when I delivered. Usually it was around breakfast time. Nowadays, you have families that are barely at home because they are all at work trying to pay off their mortgage. Especially those who decided to live in a new build where the mortgage is 50 years long.

 

And I find that the old generation, who were slain during the pandemic, used to like to talk to me. The new generation have no interest. I’m lucky to get a “good morning” from them.

 

And back in the day I would often stand and chat for half an hour but now if you stand still for more than s couple of minutes our gaffer is alerted (as we are tracked) and he rushes over with his dogs and P45.

 

I would go one further than the current changes being made. I would say the stamp only guarantees the letter will arrive at the local delivery office to the recipient. The public can collect it any day. If they want to have it personally delivered they have to pay extra still. 
But they must show their valid ID badge to get the mail which must be up to with vaccinations. This will also ensure no nefarious activities could go unchecked. And with the vans being used less it would also save the climate. Tony Blair will love this.

 

 

I wanted to be a postman when I was a youth, they asked me what my hobbies were? and I said running and stamp collecting🥴, they gave me the sack there and then!🥴

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13 hours ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Think I see Halleys Comet more often than my postie these days.

Here in the US, the postal service is going strong. They even have a gizmo that tells you in advance what type mail is arriving. Our 'mail lady' is great and always has a smile and a wave. However, they are federal employees and Musk and his goons have their sights on them.

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7 hours ago, Mazthehobo said:


What I would say, in defence of the humble postie, is that the people we deliver to have changed as well.

 

There are less cards being sent. Much less personal letters. Most folk nowadays prefer to send a meme or gif than a hand written personal note.

 

But also, when I first started most people were actually in their homes when I delivered. Usually it was around breakfast time. Nowadays, you have families that are barely at home because they are all at work trying to pay off their mortgage. Especially those who decided to live in a new build where the mortgage is 50 years long.

 

And I find that the old generation, who were slain during the pandemic, used to like to talk to me. The new generation have no interest. I’m lucky to get a “good morning” from them.

 

And back in the day I would often stand and chat for half an hour but now if you stand still for more than s couple of minutes our gaffer is alerted (as we are tracked) and he rushes over with his dogs and P45.

 

I would go one further than the current changes being made. I would say the stamp only guarantees the letter will arrive at the local delivery office to the recipient. The public can collect it any day. If they want to have it personally delivered they have to pay extra still. 
But they must show their valid ID badge to get the mail which must be up to with vaccinations. This will also ensure no nefarious activities could go unchecked. And with the vans being used less it would also save the climate. Tony Blair will love this.

 

 

Well, of course there's no one in now deliveries happen in the late morning to early afternoon. My ex was a postie way back when.

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