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'No easy routes' to growth, Reeves tells Labour MPs

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The chancellor has told Labour MPs there are "no easy routes" to economic growth, after hinting the government will back a third runway at Heathrow Airport.

Rachel Reeves said ministers must start saying "yes" to new projects and go "further and faster" to boost the economy.

Her comments come after days of speculation she will confirm government support for expanding Heathrow in a major speech on Wednesday - risking a rift with some Labour MPs who oppose the idea.

On Sunday, Reeves told the BBC's Laura Kuenssberg that "sustainable aviation and economic growth go hand in hand" but said plans would be set out in due course.

from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2y0yv1yyro

 

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Well, I'm no qualified economist or accountant (and neither is Ms Reeves for that matter), but I'm pretty sure myself and other learned members of this forum might have some more ingenious ideas to stimulate growth in the UK economy!

 

This is the thing though, the media often present such challenges as being 'complex' as if the general public can't be expected to understand what is involved - "This is 'complex' so just trust what we say!".

 

And this is why it suddenly takes £50m and six weeks to repair a simple pothole in a road.

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30 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Well, I'm no qualified economist or accountant (and neither is Ms Reeves for that matter), but I'm pretty sure myself and other learned members of this forum might have some more ingenious ideas to stimulate growth in the UK economy!

 

There was little me thinking that Starmer, Reeves, Rayner et al were hellbent on destroying small businesses. Given all of the recent probing, with regard to Rachel's qualifications and employment history, I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that some of the bigwigs in Davos insisted on at least double checking her A-Level certificates. So as to ascertain, whether she really was fit for purpose, when it came to stimulating growth.  

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1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Well, I'm no qualified economist or accountant (and neither is Ms Reeves for that matter), but I'm pretty sure myself and other learned members of this forum might have some more ingenious ideas to stimulate growth in the UK economy!

 

Well yes, it's net zero for the masses, and (fossil fuel powered) third runways to give growth to the big corporations. It's not as if they've made air travel any cheaper for us all to get us booking our holidays. 

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On 1/27/2025 at 8:31 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

'No easy routes' to growth, Reeves tells Labour MPs

from: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cx2y0yv1yyro

 

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Well, I'm no qualified economist or accountant (and neither is Ms Reeves for that matter), but I'm pretty sure myself and other learned members of this forum might have some more ingenious ideas to stimulate growth in the UK economy!

 

This is the thing though, the media often present such challenges as being 'complex' as if the general public can't be expected to understand what is involved - "This is 'complex' so just trust what we say!".

 

And this is why it suddenly takes £50m and six weeks to repair a simple pothole in a road.

 

They misunderstand economics to such a large extent or have no understanding at all. They think the only thing that the economy needs is more government spending. They think the government basically is like this hero of the economy. 

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23 hours ago, SimonTV said:

 

They misunderstand economics to such a large extent or have no understanding at all. They think the only thing that the economy needs is more government spending. They think the government basically is like this hero of the economy. 

Most politicians - not just those in the Labour party - have no idea about economics because they have no 'business sense', and can't grasp the difference between what something would cost, and how you pay for it. And what benefit you gain as a result.

 

Here in the West Midlands, we have a failing commercial bus service network. The 'solution' to this problem being proposed by Labour is to introduce a 'franchised' bus network. Whereby the local authority (in this case the West Midlands Combined Authority - WMCA) pays operators under contract to deliver services.

 

At the same time, they are promising people that bus fares will be "kept cheap". The revenue income is clearly not going to exceed the 'cost' of contracting out these services, so in order to keep their promises, there's going to have to be a hell of a lot of subsidy, which will ultimately be paid for by taxpayers through council tax increases, regardless of whether they actually use buses or not.

 

People love to hear about 'government spending' but ultimately what they don't realise is that this money doesn't come out of nowhere, and it just means they end up paying more in tax in order to pay off this debt.

 

 

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48 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Most politicians - not just those in the Labour party - have no idea about economics because they have no 'business sense', and can't grasp the difference between what something would cost, and how you pay for it. And what benefit you gain as a result.

 

Here in the West Midlands, we have a failing commercial bus service network. The 'solution' to this problem being proposed by Labour is to introduce a 'franchised' bus network. Whereby the local authority (in this case the West Midlands Combined Authority - WMCA) pays operators under contract to deliver services.

 

At the same time, they are promising people that bus fares will be "kept cheap". The revenue income is clearly not going to exceed the 'cost' of contracting out these services, so in order to keep their promises, there's going to have to be a hell of a lot of subsidy, which will ultimately be paid for by taxpayers through council tax increases, regardless of whether they actually use buses or not.

 

People love to hear about 'government spending' but ultimately what they don't realise is that this money doesn't come out of nowhere, and it just means they end up paying more in tax in order to pay off this debt.

 

 

Pretty certain that's been tried before in the Thatcher era and afterward. Didn't work then either.

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Woman in court for aggressively farting at her boyfriend’s ex

 

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Rhiannon Evans appeared in court over the UK’s first-ever ‘cyber-farting’ case’.

 

A young woman has pleaded guilty to harassment in the UK’s first ‘cyber-farting’ case after bombarding her boyfriend’s ex with videos of her breaking wind.

 

Rhiannon Evans, 25, appeared at magistrates court in Cearnarfon, North Wales and was accused of causing Deborah Prytherch ‘distress and anxiety’ by sending her ‘inappropriate’ videos of her farting.

 

Prosecutor Diane Williams told magistrates that in the first video ‘she proceeds to pass gas by placing the camera on her bottom and passing the gas.’

 

Evans sent three videos of her letting rip on December 22, followed by another four of the same nature of the next few days.

 

Woman in court for sending offensive message of her farting
 

Evans sent multiple videos of herself breaking wind to Deborah Prytherch over Christmas.

 

Each video showed ‘Miss Evans passing wind, her face smiling at the camera,’ the court heard.

 

Her tooting continued on Boxing Day and New Year’s Day, despite police getting wind of what had happened.

In a victim statement read to the court, Ms Prytherch said she ‘would like to feel safe in my home’.

 

Evans was later arrested at her home and admitted she had sent the videos. The prosecutor said ‘she wanted to send videos because she felt her partner was being treated unfairly’.

 

Mrs Williams added: ‘It was purely malicious. She was smirking throughout, found it hilarious but the victim didn’t.’

 

The case is believed to be the first instance of legal action against ‘cyber-farting’ in the UK.

Harriet Gorst, defending, said: ‘There are some issues going on between Miss Evans’s partner and his ex-partner with regard to child contact.’

 

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Evans questioned why the recipient hadn’t simply blocked her number.

 

She added: ‘At the time she sent these videos she had some drinks and she sent them, understanding now this has caused the victim some distress. She sent them without malicious intent.’

 

Evans was said to have mental health problems.

 

The magistrates imposed 15 rehabilitation sessions, 60 days alcohol abstinence monitoring and a two-year restraining order.

 

Evans was ordered to pay £100 compensation and £199 costs to the victim, and was banned from contacting her.

 

A probation officer said she had been in a relationship for two years and there was ‘bad blood’ with her boyfriend’s ex-partner. She hadn’t thought sending the videos was a criminal offence and the defendant questioned why she hadn’t been ‘blocked’ by the victim prior to appearing in court.

 

 

https://metro.co.uk/2025/01/29/woman-charged-inappropriate-videos-uks-first-cyber-farting-case-22459049/

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23 minutes ago, Saved said:

Black Hawk and American Airlines crash over Washington (live).

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/p9Jc6p4q0gA?si=QeG-WV6wjT3ONuoq

 

The plane was scheduled to land on runway 33. It is 'probably' quite a big story, for reasons we don't yet know. I feel like what the cat dragged in. Maybe someone else will start a new thread on this topic, in due course.

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The inquiry is still is in the news if we look, but is very much in the background?

 

28/01/25

 

The Telegraph says; 

 

“ There’s one thing everyone wants to know about the Covid pandemic


But this huge, rumbling inquiry is not going to find it out

 

The Covid inquiry grinds on, with witnesses yesterday including Kemi Badenoch and the former minister Nadhim Zahawi … “

 

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Must have upset someone during lockdown?! Poor bloke has been put through the mill by the sound of it?

 

https://mixmag.net/read/sacha-lord-resigns-manchester-nightlife-advisor-400k-arts-funding-fraud-allegations-covid-andy-burnham-whp-parklife-news

 

“ Sasha Lord resigns “

 

“ A firm co-owned by The Warehouse Project and Parklife founder has been accused of "misusing" public money it received during the COVID-19 pandemic “

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11 hours ago, Saved said:

Black Hawk and American Airlines crash over Washington (live).

 

https://www.youtube.com/live/p9Jc6p4q0gA?si=QeG-WV6wjT3ONuoq

Black Hawk Down.

 

First questions which always come to mind with something awful like this are...

 

Who was on the plane? Who was in the helicopter?

 

And is it significant that it happened in Washington a week after Trump was sworn in?

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Seems from MSM reports (yeah I know) that helicopter was the one which flew into plane, so you wonder why that happened.

 

Plane was on course, no issues. Helicopter smashed into it. Military personnel on suicide mission? Someone on board plane suspected of being security risk, or traitor, or Russian agent....or the now-familiar "medical incident" involving heli pilot.

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Trump; “ you can stop a helicopter very quickly … for some reason it just kept going … It was exactly the same height … Common sense … A confluence of bad decisions that were made … “

 

David from the RAF;

 

“ Trump was bumbling … “

 

“ … America has a shortage of traffic controllers; has been taking risks for a long time … 


… Trying to weave all the traffic and all the helicopters is a real balancing act, it’s really high pressure, in tight spaces …

 

… directing the pilot where to look for the helicopters … it’s low level, there are lights at all levels … 
 

… The demands on Reagan airport .. The pentagon is just to the north of it … “

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21 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Seems from MSM reports (yeah I know) that helicopter was the one which flew into plane, so you wonder why that happened.

 

Plane was on course, no issues. Helicopter smashed into it. Military personnel on suicide mission? Someone on board plane suspected of being security risk, or traitor, or Russian agent....or the now-familiar "medical incident" involving heli pilot.

 

It's just down river from the Pentagon, which probably explains why there's military helicopters around.  Though I'd have thought it would be well known where the civilian flight lanes are to avoid them. 

 

Also near the 14th street bridges where there was another plane crash 43 years ago in January 1982 

  

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_Florida_Flight_90  

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37 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Seems from MSM reports (yeah I know) that helicopter was the one which flew into plane, so you wonder why that happened.

 

'Assuming' that this was no accident, which is what I think, then my best guess is that the comms from the helicopter were remotely cut soon before impact. Then, control of the helicopter was remotely disabled for the pilot and it was remotely directed in to the plane. 

 

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4 minutes ago, numnuts said:

 

'Assuming' that this was no accident, which is what I think, then my best guess is that the comms from the helicopter were remotely cut soon before impact. Then, control of the helicopter was remotely disabled for the pilot and it was remotely directed in to the plane. 

 

Isn't that similar to the S Korean plane which smashed into the runway after its comms were mysteriously shut off 90 seconds earlier?

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12 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Isn't that similar to the S Korean plane which smashed into the runway after its comms were mysteriously shut off 90 seconds earlier?

 

I can't remember 'exactly' what was supposed to have happend in South Korea, but if I am right, then it would certainly be 'similar' to what happened with the helicopter. Difference being, the South Korean plane was set up to have a catastrophic crash, wherever it tried to land, and the helicopter was directed all the way to it's target. 

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