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18 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said:

Bluetooth has a range of around 10 metres. Besides, in the event of a major power outage, the mobile networks wouldn't work either.

But you don't need a mobile network to run bluetooth.  And 10 metres would soon bounce phone to phone in a city. 

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1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

I only carry a mobile around so that my mum can get me in an emergency,

 

For that specific task it may be worthwhile having a landline phone. Provided it's a plug-in phone and not a wireless model (which requires additional power) then you'll always have a connection during a blackout as long as the phone network itself hasn't gone down. Plug-in phones take their power from the phone line itself which comes from the local exchange.

 

 

 

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37 minutes ago, Bombadil said:

Ive got a picture of you now in my mind as Nora Batty from Last of the Summer Wine!!!

 

Ooh, she's a bit glam! 😆

 

These look like close fitting khaki coloured jim-jams ( & some in red) so you could wear them under any jeans etc. Very swish! 🙈

 

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26 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

For that specific task it may be worthwhile having a landline phone. Provided it's a plug-in phone and not a wireless model (which requires additional power) then you'll always have a connection during a blackout as long as the phone network itself hasn't gone down. Plug-in phones take their power from the phone line itself which comes from the local exchange.

 

 

 

 

I wondered about that & I do have a land-line & standard phone, so that's good to know. (Especially since my Mum's the only person who ever rings it). Thanks!

 

*Edit* Uncertain again now I've read Eddy's post. Will look it up when not busy.

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9 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

I wondered about that & I do have a land-line & standard phone, so that's good to know. (Especially since my Mum's the only person who ever rings it). Thanks!

 

*Edit* Uncertain again now I've read Eddy's post. Will look it up when not busy.

 

The way I look at it is, the phone connection in my home is not connected to the electricity supply in any way, so I can't see how  a blackout would affect it. Unfortunately, I don't have a plug-in phone I can try otherwise I could have just shut off my electric and tested it. It would all depend on whether your phone was reciving power from the outlet in your home.

 

As plug-in phones are available for a fiver or less I may look into this myself.

 

 

 

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46 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

The way I look at it is, the phone connection in my home is not connected to the electricity supply in any way, so I can't see how  a blackout would affect it. Unfortunately, I don't have a plug-in phone I can try otherwise I could have just shut off my electric and tested it. It would all depend on whether your phone was reciving power from the outlet in your home.

 

As plug-in phones are available for a fiver or less I may look into this myself.

 

 

 

It looks like the old style phone sockets will be "switched off" (apologies for my lack of precise techie jargon) - this is what Virgin Media sent me (I assume it'll be the same deal for other telecoms providers):

 

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On 12 January your current home phone service will stop working and be switched over to our fibre network. We will send you an adapter in the post which you’ll need to use to connect your home phone to your WiFi Hub so you can make and receive phone calls over our fibre network.

 

In the unlikely event there’s a power cut or a fibre network disruption, you won’t be able to make or receive calls and most connected devices (such as a burglar alarm linked to a control centre, a telecare device, or other phones connected to extension sockets) will be affected.

 

Frequently asked questions

What happens if I don’t set up the adapter?
In the future our network updates will mean that your current home phone services will no longer work, so it’s really important you use the adapter to connect your home phone to your WiFi Hub on or after the specified date to avoid disruption.
How can I make emergency calls if there's service disruption?
If you rely on your landline for accessibility needs or don’t have a mobile to make an emergency call we’ll provide you with an emergency back up line so you’re always able to call emergency services.

 

 
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3 hours ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

 

Thanks. Anyway, we can just leave our phones to run out of charge beforehand then they couldn't bounce anything to it at will. 🙂

 

I only carry a mobile around so that my mum can get me in an emergency, or I can call Green Flag if my car conks out, and if it's no potential to perform those tasks in an outage, it might as well have no battery charge.

 

I'm ready. Thermal undies & woolly jumpers & blankets & hot water bottles / camping cooker & canisters & camping stove top kettle & flasks / battery operated lighting & candles & torches, / cards & dominoes & board games & books / sharp & blunt, heavy implements 😉. Have I overlooked anything?  

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I'm assuming here that you want to be able to disable your mobile in some way to avoid the Government Emergency Broadcast messages that will be transmitted from all cell towers and can't be blocked by your mobile?

 

The simple answer (and still allowing calls between yourself and your morher) is for you both to buy cheap '3g only' phones. The Gov messages are only going to be sent out on 4g or 5g.

 

 

What devices government emergency alerts work on

To make sure you receive these notifications, people are being encouraged to ensure devices have all the latest software updates.

Phones and tablets

Android phones and tablets running Android 11 or later and iPhones running iOS 14.5 or later are able to receive alerts and earlier versions of Android may still be able to receive alerts.

If you want to know if your phone is ready to receive the messages, check settings for ‘emergency alerts’.

Mobile phone networks

 

Emergency alerts work on all 4G and 5G phone networks in the UK but those using a 2G or 3G network will not be able to receive the emergency alerts.

If your device is not compatible, the emergency services have other ways to warn you when lives are in danger such as local news, radio, television and social media.

 

 

 

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4 minutes ago, webtrekker said:

 

I'm assuming here that you want to be able to disable your mobile in some way to avoid the Government Emergency Broadcast messages that will be transmitted from all cell towers and can't be blocked by your mobile?

 

The simple answer (and still allowing calls between yourself and your morher) is for you both to buy cheap '3g only' phones. The Gov messages are only going to be sent out on 4g or 5g.

 

 

What devices government emergency alerts work on

To make sure you receive these notifications, people are being encouraged to ensure devices have all the latest software updates.

Phones and tablets

Android phones and tablets running Android 11 or later and iPhones running iOS 14.5 or later are able to receive alerts and earlier versions of Android may still be able to receive alerts.

If you want to know if your phone is ready to receive the messages, check settings for ‘emergency alerts’.

Mobile phone networks

 

Emergency alerts work on all 4G and 5G phone networks in the UK but those using a 2G or 3G network will not be able to receive the emergency alerts.

If your device is not compatible, the emergency services have other ways to warn you when lives are in danger such as local news, radio, television and social media.

 

 

 

 

Cool. Mine's a bit old boot 

 

I don't wish any contact from them - but yet am probably too curious to want to miss what they're up to,

so it's a quandary.

 

I'm more concerned about my mum so will probably go & sit in with her (and she can make any phone not work properly without trying).

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3 hours ago, Bombadil said:

Ive got a picture of you now in my mind as Nora Batty from Last of the Summer Wine!!!

Ah, the good old days. I used to love watching that on a Sunday evening. My grandad was the spit of Compo. Christ I feel old now 😂.

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1 minute ago, Morpheus said:

Who's grandad wasn't like compo? 🤣

There must be some poor people out there who's grandad wasn't like Compo Morph. Must've been awful for them🤣. To be honest if you had a grandad like any of these legends you were lucky.

 

 

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Haha! At our parties when we were kids, the neighbour's child (still a good friend) was a precocious exhibitist, who used to take any opportunity to climb on our coffee table & give us a Shirley Tmple style song & dance routine. My gran used to seek her out every time & encourage her, and my Grandad would always say, "I'm off outside for a smoke then", and add more quietly, "And to be sick". 😆

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Trudeau freezes handgun sales in Canada ‘from now on’

October 21, 2022 Justin Cooper

Canadians can no longer buy, sell or transfer handguns, and cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country, Prime Minister Justin Trudeau has announced.

“Update: People can no longer buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada – and they cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country,” Trudeau tweeted Friday.

 

Update: People can no longer buy, sell, or transfer handguns within Canada – and they cannot bring newly acquired handguns into the country.

— Justin Trudeau (@JustinTrudeau) October 21, 2022

The “national handgun freeze” is part of a major gun control law that’s still being debated in Canadian parliament, however Trudeau’s administration is already “taking immediate action” to put the handgun freeze in place. 

“Canadians have the right to feel safe in their homes, in their schools, and in their places of worship,” Trudeau stated. “With handgun violence increasing across Canada, it is our duty to take urgent action to remove these deadly weapons from our communities. Today, we’re keeping more guns out of our communities, and keeping our kids safe.”

 

Applications to buy, sell, or transfer handguns submitted before Oct. 21, the date of the announcement, will still be processed.

Limited exceptions on the freeze will apply to “high-performance” sport shooters and people who carry handguns in legal lines of work, according to the announcement. Businesses such as gunsmiths, the film industry and museums will also be exempted.

The wider gun control law being worked on now would also implement a new red flag law, expand the ability to revoke licenses, and increase penalties for firearms trafficking and smuggling, according to a government summary.

 

The handgun freeze follows Canada’s earlier measures to ban more than 1,500 types of assault-style firearms, as reported by CBC, and expand background checks, as reported by CityNews Toronto.

“We made a commitment to Canadians that we would act – and we are,” said Minister of Public Safety Marco Mendicino. “The national freeze will tackle the alarming role of handguns in crime, gender-based violence, and more. We are using all tools at our disposal to fight gun violence and will not rest until all Canadians feel safe in their communities.”

https://americanmilitarynews.com/2022/10/canadians-can-no-longer-buy-sell-handguns-trudeau/

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2 hours ago, Observations said:

I heard the craziest show on LBC today. Sangita actually said that Truss crashed the economy in ten days, and at the same time discussing Johnson and Sunak as if it wasn't they who were so called in charge of making the decisions. When a caller said Sunak created the debt with furlough she wouldn't have it, and was more interested in calling him racist because he dared to mention race / Nationality. 

 

You can imagine that Liz will be blamed eternally for the financial situation, and Johnson can be painted as the saviour. The blatant distortions are just astonishing. 

 

I would appreciate it if someone can share some snippets from the show if I share the time slots. It was painful to listen to. I'll try to share some of the bits I heard the first chance I get. 

 

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24 minutes ago, Tinfoil Hat said:

If violence is increasing, maybe the need to be able to defend themselves is increasing then. (We know why they want them out of the public's hands of course).

 

by banning law abiding citizens from owning guns the only people left holding guns are the criminals who own unlicensed guns anyway and the government who are themselves an organised criminal gang who are simply gearing up to do something nasty to the public which is why they don't want them armed

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16 hours ago, Macnamara said:

 

by banning law abiding citizens from owning guns the only people left holding guns are the criminals who own unlicensed guns anyway and the government who are themselves an organised criminal gang who are simply gearing up to do something nasty to the public which is why they don't want them armed

Although the sort of weapons they have like silent weapons for a quiet war and what Walter Bowart talked about  in mind control

orElana Freeland in "under an ionised sky" 

or as used in Gulf war one even etc makes it seem the answer globally is population awareness boost as it seems democracy is still in place

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4 hours ago, Talorgan said:

Although the sort of weapons they have like silent weapons for a quiet war and what Walter Bowart talked about  in mind control

orElana Freeland in "under an ionised sky" 

or as used in Gulf war one even etc makes it seem the answer globally is population awareness boost as it seems democracy is still in place

 

so many things can be weaponised. Inflation for example destroys the purchasing power of your currency so if they create enough inflation all of your currency in the bank becomes virtually worthless as happened in germany right before world war 2

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1 hour ago, Macnamara said:

 

so many things can be weaponised. Inflation for example destroys the purchasing power of your currency so if they create enough inflation all of your currency in the bank becomes virtually worthless as happened in germany right before world war 2

And "sustainable slavery "

 

https://unlimitedhangout.com/2022/09/investigative-reports/sustainable-debt-slavery/

 

"As openly stated by the UN, “sustainable development” is all about transformation, not necessarily “sustainability” as most people conceive of it. It aims to transform the Earth and everything on it, including us, into commodities – the trading of which will form the basis of a new global economy. Though it is being sold to us as “sustainable,” the only thing this new global financial system will “sustain” is the power of a predatory financial elite"

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