Talorgan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Macnamara said: governments ARE in on it. They are in cahoots with the central banks. The problem is that the governments are completely captured by the central banks Governments can spend by either taxing us or by printing more currency which then leads to inflation which is a stealth tax. Prices are rising at the moment because the government is printing currency leading to inflation councils ARE involved in dodgy investments. The extent of that became apparent in 2008 when we found out the various ways councils were investing large sums of money I remember reading about the Bradbury pound idea which I think Loyd George put stop to ? Anyway to avoid borrowing from private banks etc to finance world war one I think it was ,or it's effects ,better still not to have had war ,but the bradbury pound idea is never on cards Edited July 27, 2022 by Talorgan + 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Talorgan said: I remember reading about the Bradbury pound idea which I think Loyd George put stop to ? Anyway to avoid borrowing from private banks etc to finance world war one I think it was ,or it's effects ,better still not to have had war ,but the bradbury pound idea is never on cards yes the bradbury pound could be re-introduced tomorrow if there was the political will......but there is no political will because the political class are in on the conspiracy Edited July 27, 2022 by Macnamara 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 Italian Conservatives Call For Greater Border Security After Footage Of Migrant Violence Goes Viral Wednesday, Jul 27, 2022 - 07:00 AM By Thomas Brooke of Remix News. Disturbing footage of a man being subjected to a vicious attack in a public square in the Italian city of Milan has prompted calls by conservative politicians for stricter border security in the country. The now viral footage shows a man being drop-kicked in the face in Piazza Duca D’Aosta by a man described by the Italian Il Giornale newspaper as a “homeless Tunisian” national, before the migrant smashes a bottle on his victim who lies on the floor in pain. The assailant proceeds to brutally kick his victim in the head, as screams can be heard from onlookers, before nonchalantly walking away from the scene. https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/italian-conservatives-call-greater-border-security-after-footage-migrant-violence-goes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shy Talk Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 With Germany meeting England in the final of the women's Euro 2022 it's going to be interesting how the BBC approach it seeing as they showed their prejudiced hand way too early a few days ago by criticising the lack of diversity in the England team. Well guess what, England have gone on to reach the final along with Germany, whose first 11 is also all white (not even a Turk). Will the beeb now retract their comments and accept that these teams were picked to win the tournament and not some virtue-signalling nonsense? Unlikely. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anti Facts Sir Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 France lost cos of waycism. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talorgan Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 2 hours ago, Macnamara said: yes the bradbury pound could be re-introduced tomorrow if there was the political will......but there is no political will because the political class are in on the conspiracy Really it is so simple but would be solution to coming storms if enough knew about it not just in UK but everywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Campion said: Debt levels are quite a good indicator of where we are in the "business cycle" (ie greed vs fear, bull vs bear cycle) and I wouldn't really advise entering the stock market without researching it. Lehman Bros wiped me out in 2008 and here we are, 14 years on and I am still grafting away with no pension and a lot of bills. There's many who are worse off so I'm not complaining. One of my good friends who lost the lot in 2008 went out on a last sail in his boat and never came back. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Macnamara said: governments ARE in on it. They are in cahoots with the central banks. The problem is that the governments are completely captured by the central banks Governments can spend by either taxing us or by printing more currency which then leads to inflation which is a stealth tax. Prices are rising at the moment because the government is printing currency leading to inflation I'm not expert on banking, but DI often mentions how banks electronically print the money which they then lend to other borrowers, so perhaps that's inflationary too? But govt in the west seems ideologically opposed to doing this (can you get a mortgage or loan from the National Savings Bank?), maybe it would undermine the whole system, especially if they're in cahoots. 3 hours ago, Macnamara said: councils ARE involved in dodgy investments. The extent of that became apparent in 2008 when we found out the various ways councils were investing large sums of money I've no doubt, yet it doesn't stop many thousands of private landlords making a good living out of property investment. This again smells like TPTB not wanting to rock the boat of a very lucrative business model for themselves. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campion Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 (edited) 26 minutes ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Lehman Bros wiped me out in 2008 and here we are, 14 years on and I am still grafting away with no pension and a lot of bills. There's many who are worse off so I'm not complaining. One of my good friends who lost the lot in 2008 went out on a last sail in his boat and never came back. Sorry to hear that Nemuri, it must have been very rough. Sometimes I'm grateful I didn't hack it in private industry and ended up in the public sector. Mind you, we've had below inflation pay rises since the credit crunch, so I'm wondering how much longer can this economic system keep up the illusion that things are gonna get better. Edited July 27, 2022 by Campion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemuri Kyoshiro Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Selling golf balls doesn't quite do it (see above). Now Trump wants to have my name cemented in history. Here's his latest email scam and these are not parody emails. Friend, When I was in the White House, America had a President who put our Nation FIRST every single day. For the first time in a long time, power was taken from Washington and given BACK to the American People. Unfortunately, Joe Biden and the rest of the Washington SWAMP are working overtime to undo everything my administration accomplished. Mark my words, America will be put FIRST again, but only with the help of my most loyal supporters. You’ve always been a trusted ally, Friend, which is why I want to offer you something very exclusive. This is the year we TAKE AMERICA BACK from the Left, so I’ve decided to dedicate a wall at my office for a select group of donors who choose to step up at this critical time. I want to give you PRIORITY ACCESS to get your name permanently engraved on the Official 2022 Trump Donor Wall. Space is extremely limited. This could be your only chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Observations Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Nemuri Kyoshiro said: Another one from the crazy files. Apparently, Kia cars can be started with a USB cable (who knew?). As part of a tik-tok challenge, An 11 year old kid in Washing DC did just that and ran over a 7-year-old. https://www.fox5dc.com/news/7-year-old-boy-in-serious-condition-after-hit-and-run-crash-in-dc?taid=62e00ebcfcad21000137f73 I mostly look at things with more than a touch of cynicism, and yet I'm open to balance, knowing it could go either way. Ever since Prince Phillip's little car crash, especially, when I see Kia in an article I just wonder if it's a sneaky promotion? My initial observations were to look at this as an advert for Kia, USB, tik-tok and crime, so I clicked on the link and saw of course the numbers 7 and 11, even the time adds up to 11. The parking lot is called the ARC, the child is a victim, and "They don’t even feel safe in their own environment," (Don't let your children out into the playground!!) And cut I don't know, but maybe it's just a bit more fun when you see these things time and again to just be curious about the fear manipulations in the media, shake your head and move on to the next bit of nonsense. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 quick, commonwealth games opening ceremony about to start got to be a satanic symbolism fest 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Campion said: I'm not expert on banking, but DI often mentions how banks electronically print the money which they then lend to other borrowers well this was what conspiracy theorists were claiming for a long time and then it was in fact confirmed by the bank of england that money is indeed created when the banks create loans: Money creation in the modern economy By Michael McLeay, Amar Radia and Ryland Thomas of the Bank’s Monetary Analysis Directorate.(1) This article explains how the majority of money in the modern economy is created by commercial banks making loans. https://www.bankofengland.co.uk/-/media/boe/files/quarterly-bulletin/2014/money-creation-in-the-modern-economy.pdf 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 19 hours ago, Campion said: I'm not expert on banking, but DI often mentions how banks electronically print the money which they then lend to other borrowers, so perhaps that's inflationary too? 17 minutes ago, Macnamara said: well this was what conspiracy theorists were claiming for a long time and then it was in fact confirmed by the bank of england that money is indeed created when the banks create loans: Exactly, it is all 'fictional' money that doesn't exist. Lets say I agree to lend you £100, on the proviso that you pay me back £110. I would pull out £100 from my wallet, and give that to you. If you then end up paying me back £110, I'm £10 better off, that's my profit (gain). If you did nothing with that £100, you still only have £100, therefore you cannot pay back what was agreed (£110). You could spend that £100, and then have no way of paying me back, well I lose £100, plus the £10 I 'expected' to gain. The difference with banks is that when they 'loan' you money, they are not giving you money that they already have, they are 'creating' money in the form of credit (debt), which you are expected to pay back in full, plus the 'interest' that is accrued, the interest being the 'profit/gain' the bank makes from the transaction. (Maybe this is the reason why it is called 'interest'... it is the bank's 'vested interest' after all) If you default on this debt, technically the bank is only losing out on the potential 'interest' it would have gained on repayment of the loan. It never physically had the money to 'lend' you in the first place. Really, its all hypothetical and theoretical. If you find yourself saddled with debt and struggling to make repayments, there are ways to break the cycle, using methods like insolvency voluntary arrangements (IVAs), whereby your debt can be 'frozen', therefore no more interest gets accrued, and you can agree to pay back a small percentage of your debt to your creditors over a period of time, with the rest being 'written off'. The whole global economy is built on debt, but people haven't worked out or asked the question of who exactly all this money is 'owed' to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Macnamara Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: The difference with banks is that when they 'loan' you money, they are not giving you money that they already have, they are 'creating' money in the form of credit (debt), which you are expected to pay back in full, plus the 'interest' that is accrued, the interest being the 'profit/gain' the bank makes from the transaction. exactly! further to this when you deposit currency in a bank you no longer own that as you become an unsecured creditor; this was why the banks were able to do 'bail-ins' in cyprus where they simply shaved off a percentage of peoples bank accounts that were above a certain amount. Many russian businessmen got hit by that. I always saw cyprus as a practice run for the rest of the world but they haven't played that card yet of course charging interest on loans was banned in christendom as 'usury'. Jews did not have the same prohibitions and became lenders to the european monarchs which is why the rothschilds are often referred to as 'court jews'. They were then housed in their own sections of cities known as 'ghettos' so that they could provide those financial services to the crown The knights templar were crypto-jews (sabbateans) and they too found ways to charge people interest 12 minutes ago, Grumpy Owl said: If you find yourself saddled with debt and struggling to make repayments, there are ways to break the cycle, using methods like insolvency voluntary arrangements (IVAs), whereby your debt can be 'frozen', therefore no more interest gets accrued, and you can agree to pay back a small percentage of your debt to your creditors over a period of time, with the rest being 'written off'. lets hope it doesn't come to that! But my understanding is that there are catches with that approach for example you cannot be the director of a company if you do that which might cause some people problems Edited July 28, 2022 by Macnamara 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bamboozooka Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, Grumpy Owl said: Exactly, it is all 'fictional' money that doesn't exist. Lets say I agree to lend you £100, on the proviso that you pay me back £110. I would pull out £100 from my wallet, and give that to you. If you then end up paying me back £110, I'm £10 better off, that's my profit (gain). If you did nothing with that £100, you still only have £100, therefore you cannot pay back what was agreed (£110). You could spend that £100, and then have no way of paying me back, well I lose £100, plus the £10 I 'expected' to gain. The difference with banks is that when they 'loan' you money, they are not giving you money that they already have, they are 'creating' money in the form of credit (debt), which you are expected to pay back in full, plus the 'interest' that is accrued, the interest being the 'profit/gain' the bank makes from the transaction. (Maybe this is the reason why it is called 'interest'... it is the bank's 'vested interest' after all) If you default on this debt, technically the bank is only losing out on the potential 'interest' it would have gained on repayment of the loan. It never physically had the money to 'lend' you in the first place. Really, its all hypothetical and theoretical. If you find yourself saddled with debt and struggling to make repayments, there are ways to break the cycle, using methods like insolvency voluntary arrangements (IVAs), whereby your debt can be 'frozen', therefore no more interest gets accrued, and you can agree to pay back a small percentage of your debt to your creditors over a period of time, with the rest being 'written off'. The whole global economy is built on debt, but people haven't worked out or asked the question of who exactly all this money is 'owed' to. you missed the part that once the bank has loaned you £100 they can then use that £100 debt to borrow £1000 from another bank 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 29, 2022 Share Posted July 29, 2022 19 hours ago, bamboozooka said: you missed the part that once the bank has loaned you £100 they can then use that £100 debt to borrow £1000 from another bank Well yeah that's true, but I was making the comparison with lending money to someone out of my own pocket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zArk Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 On 7/28/2022 at 10:22 PM, bamboozooka said: you missed the part that once the bank has loaned you £100 they can then use that £100 debt to borrow £1000 from another bank no wonder business makes people so ruthless. with stacks of interconnected debt a failure in the chain collapses the lot..... billy boy gates is popular because he brings lots of investment to governments control 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 They really want to generate fear. This is supposedly the result of asking AI to predict the last selfie on earth... https://www.the-sun.com/tech/5881528/dall-e-ai-last-selfie-on-earth-prediction-tiktok/ I suppose there is some exhileration connected with fear, otherwise we'd never go on rollercoasters or watch horror films. Still that's about experiences outside of our desired norm. 'They' are worthy of our mockery, I believe. I'll bet laughing at them makes them cry like impotent little wimps. That's why they have to remain hidden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doc Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said: They really want to generate fear. This is supposedly the result of asking AI to predict the last selfie on earth... https://www.the-sun.com/tech/5881528/dall-e-ai-last-selfie-on-earth-prediction-tiktok/ I suppose there is some exhileration connected with fear, otherwise we'd never go on rollercoasters or watch horror films. Still that's about experiences outside of our desired norm. 'They' are worthy of our mockery, I believe. I'll bet laughing at them makes them cry like impotent little wimps. That's why they have to remain hidden. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KingKitty Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said: They really want to generate fear. This is supposedly the result of asking AI to predict the last selfie on earth... https://www.the-sun.com/tech/5881528/dall-e-ai-last-selfie-on-earth-prediction-tiktok/ I suppose there is some exhileration connected with fear, otherwise we'd never go on rollercoasters or watch horror films. Still that's about experiences outside of our desired norm. 'They' are worthy of our mockery, I believe. I'll bet laughing at them makes them cry like impotent little wimps. That's why they have to remain hidden. I rather doubt, in the final days, people would still have cell phones. I'd imagine the power grids would be compromised. Things like cell phones would have been abandoned by that point. And, why are all they all in heavy coats? Does this suggest there will be no global warming in the future? And finally, where are the black zombies? Is AI racist!?! On the bright side, no one is wearing a chin diaper. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grumpy Owl Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Tinfoil Hat said: They really want to generate fear. This is supposedly the result of asking AI to predict the last selfie on earth... https://www.the-sun.com/tech/5881528/dall-e-ai-last-selfie-on-earth-prediction-tiktok/ I suppose there is some exhileration connected with fear, otherwise we'd never go on rollercoasters or watch horror films. Still that's about experiences outside of our desired norm. 'They' are worthy of our mockery, I believe. I'll bet laughing at them makes them cry like impotent little wimps. That's why they have to remain hidden. To be fair, whatever anyone asks this AI to create ends up looking 'creepy'. https://www.craiyon.com/ I asked it to draw "Prince Charles on a bus": 1 1 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinfoil Hat Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 minute ago, Grumpy Owl said: To be fair, whatever anyone asks this AI to create ends up looking 'creepy'. https://www.craiyon.com/ I asked it to draw "Prince Charles on a bus": Marginally less creepy than the real McCoy though. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morpheus Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said: To be fair, whatever anyone asks this AI to create ends up looking 'creepy'. https://www.craiyon.com/ I asked it to draw "Prince Charles on a bus": Don't ask me why, I think it just sounded funny, but I asked for John Major in a manger and this was the results....... 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mikhail Liebestein Posted July 30, 2022 Share Posted July 30, 2022 Liz Truss with a spliff. Imagine ifbthat were real, that might change the Tory Leadership Election result.... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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