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Weird thing I noticed today. 99% (well, all but one basically) of the petrol stations I passed today, regardless of brand or location, were selling at the exact same price - 185.9. Never seen this before, there's usually some fluctuations.

 

It's as though they've all come to some agreement....

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How high can it go?

I have come to a conclusion that the life is all about hi, lows and sideways.......

You don't call lit PUMP for nothing...

I tell you what, to lower the price, every buy the petrol stock. What usually happens is that as soon as you buy, the price goes down. lol

 

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On 6/13/2022 at 7:26 AM, Nefaria said:

Electric cars are probably okay if you work near to where you live, have a driveway to charge it up and only go on short journeys... but long journeys?  There is only a finite number of chargers at motorway services, cars need to be parked up and left charging a while. What you supposed to do... sit there waiting for hours at services waiting for others to finish, then park up yourself to charge and wait again for it to finish?  Completely impractical.  A four hour journey becomes a whole day one?    And what if you don't have a driveway, you meant go somewhere to charge it and sit waiting again?  I really don't get how it's supposed to work.

 

Good point. I don't understand it either. The only thing i can think of is if they develop some type of battery that charges quickly, most batteries require an overnight charge. If a battery can be developed that charges in an hour, then solar panels on the roof to keep the battery charged, that may help. But it is going to be difficult and tedious as you rightly state -not sure if the stupid sheep are going to out up with all of that BS, i mean, they are stupid. but no one's that stupid - are they???

 

 

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On 6/11/2022 at 6:38 PM, oddsnsods said:

We pay almost double in taxes from what a barrel cost I believe in airstrip one.

 

I just filled up & had to pay £2 a litre for 99 octane. Lucky I dont use my car often.

 

Car tax is shooting up this year also, doubled in a few years for netzero of course (the interest on the debt)

 

Must be great to afford an electric car, whilst the riff-raff have to pay your taxes.

 

Might be a good time to switch to vegetable oil - if you can find someone willing to do the mods for you.

A few years ago there was a guy who figured out how to power a car on water, but he died very quickly after saying that.

Another man followed up on his work and has been modding people cars and bikes to run on water. He then released a you tube video, he has now disappeared also.

 

 

 

 

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On 6/12/2022 at 6:10 AM, Nefaria said:

But that doesn't necessarily mean they are all switching to electric though, maybe some of them are struggling so much that they have decided to give up on cars all together.

 

How many of the electric car drivers will regret it once they go on a long journey and run out of juice they pull into the services to find no charging points available?

Have you  heard of the 15 minute cities? Where everything your heart desires is within 15 minutes of your abode in your tiny lego house and travel out side that '15 minute zone' into the rewilded countryside will be punished with social credit score reduction ?

And yes even in the UK the spineless albino jellyfish has already mentioned it more than once about rewilding for the UK,However in the USA the plans are far more advanced

 

https://rewilding.org/

 

 

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On 6/12/2022 at 8:11 PM, Grumpy Owl said:

 

That's the agenda narrative. "Oooh petrol/diesel is getting unaffordable, better trade in for an electric vehicle"

 

 

Here in the West Midlands where I live, remarkably the only thing that hasn't increased in price lately is the cost of public transport.

 

I don't drive and have never owned a car, so I've always relied on public transport or my own two feet to get around here. My monthly bus pass actually decreased in price last year (from £60 a month to £50) and there are no hints or suggestions that this will increase in the future.

 

So from my point of view, I'm already about £120 a year better off. But buses and trains still use the same diesel that everyone else is paying more for? Again, its the agenda narrative at play.

 

If you can't afford to run a petrol/diesel car, either buy an EV, or cycle or use public transport.

 

(Meanwhile I travelled home by bus yesterday afternoon, and noticed a new cycle lane installed on Blossomfield Road in Solihull, narrowing the road for buses and other traffic to use, and I didn't see a single cyclist using it. More agenda pushing!)

I am a bus user and also surprised that it is still £2.40 for a single - there doesn't seem to have been a price rise in ages. As for cycle lanes that are rarely used, this mess has been here for a year or more. Just as you pass the 1950's communist inspired East European grey block of depression on the left (otherwise known as student accommodation) you come to a bridge where there is little to no room for buses and ambulances or fire engines to simultaneously negotiate. It can take 30 minutes in rush hour just to get through that main 400 yard drag in Selly Oak; all for the sake of the environment as Birmingham becomes increasingly insane for Global agendas.

 

It is as if the road planners are on a remit to make travel as frustrating as possible for car owners. The Bristol Road never goes a year without whole lanes being coned off for works - usually resurfacing because of cheap materials continuing to be used. I have seen the same stretches resurfaced numerous times over the last five years and works often go on for months on end. Meanwhile, heavy traffic is sitting there spewing out the very thing that the powers are supposed to be reducing. The green tax for cars travelling into and through the city centre has made no difference to the volume of cars as far as I can see. Still, it makes a lot of money to pay companies to continue to fix the roads with plenty left over to finance the two weeks of vanity coming up in the name of sport. The council's chunk of funding towards the Commonwealth Games is £184m out of £778m.

 

The one good thing on a selfish level about the first lockdown was flying into and back from work in ten minutes instead of forty minutes or more. Look at this mess:

 

 

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On 6/13/2022 at 4:46 PM, webtrekker said:

 

 

I've just remembered something from my Z80 programming days to do with 'C5.'

 

Here's an explanation I've just dragged off the net ...

 

 

The C5 - what's in a name?

CLive Sinclair (before he became, Sir Clive) was really into the Zilog Z80 processor family - all his little, er, 'computers', were based on it.

In Z80 Assembly language, C5 was PUSH BC, which could be construed as 'Push ByCycle' if you take a mental squint at it.

 

However, I prefer to think that it was simply his initials, in that 1980's sort of computer font C5 would have looked almost exactly like CS.

 

 

The BC registers in the Z80 processor were a register pair, so PUSH BC was an instruction to push the values on top of the stack. PULL BC brought them back again. As the above clip explains, C5 was the z80 Assembler opcode for PUSH BC.

 

See! You could fill a book with what I know (but, as my wife keeps pointing out, you could fill a library with what I don't know!). 🤣

 

 

 

I love my old Sinclair Spectrum computer!  I still have one and with the wonders of modern technology i can load games up on it via an SD card, saves relying on those old tapes!

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7 hours ago, whatthefoxhat said:

Have you  heard of the 15 minute cities? Where everything your heart desires is within 15 minutes of your abode in your tiny lego house and travel out side that '15 minute zone' into the rewilded countryside will be punished with social credit score reduction ?

And yes even in the UK the spineless albino jellyfish has already mentioned it more than once about rewilding for the UK,However in the USA the plans are far more advanced

 

https://rewilding.org/

 

 

I think that's their goal in the long run, stop people traveling everywhere.  I have often in the past thought about this.  If people don't travel they stop seeing other cultures and perspectives, makes people even more sheep like and easier to control!

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9 hours ago, Saved said:

I am a bus user and also surprised that it is still £2.40 for a single - there doesn't seem to have been a price rise in ages.

 

WM Mayor Andy Street was boasting on Facebook yesterday that bus fares are going to be frozen until 2025.

 

Now while this is great news for me, and good news for others considering switching to public transport, with the rising costs of fuel, I'm not sure how this can be considered 'sustainable'.

 

From a business perspective, this is going to financially hurt the smaller, less 'well-off' independent bus operators. Already this year, we've seen two good local independents throw in the towel, and sell their bus operations to Diamond Bus (part of the bigger Rotala group). I can see others either doing the same, or going to the wall, simply because they can't compete financially against the big corporate groups backed by hedge-fund investors, National Express, Stagecoach, First, Arriva etc.

 

And this is what I think this is all leading towards, public transport - 'supported' by central Government funding - consolidated into a small number of big corporate giants, with effective monopolies in certain areas and regions.

 

So much for free-market enterprise.

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4 hours ago, Nefaria said:

I love my old Sinclair Spectrum computer!  I still have one and with the wonders of modern technology i can load games up on it via an SD card, saves relying on those old tapes!

Yea you've gotta love the spekky it was a marvel of British engineering. back when the uk could actually make things. Sir clive was ahead of the game in many ways. 

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3 hours ago, Grumpy Owl said:

 

WM Mayor Andy Street was boasting on Facebook yesterday that bus fares are going to be frozen until 2025.

 

Now while this is great news for me, and good news for others considering switching to public transport, with the rising costs of fuel, I'm not sure how this can be considered 'sustainable'.

 

From a business perspective, this is going to financially hurt the smaller, less 'well-off' independent bus operators. Already this year, we've seen two good local independents throw in the towel, and sell their bus operations to Diamond Bus (part of the bigger Rotala group). I can see others either doing the same, or going to the wall, simply because they can't compete financially against the big corporate groups backed by hedge-fund investors, National Express, Stagecoach, First, Arriva etc.

 

And this is what I think this is all leading towards, public transport - 'supported' by central Government funding - consolidated into a small number of big corporate giants, with effective monopolies in certain areas and regions.

 

So much for free-market enterprise.

I sometimes wonder whether all public transportation is going to become "re-nationalised", I remember some talk in the recent past of doing it to the railways, maybe they will do it with buses too.

 

Oh and on the subject of west midlands transportation.... Who is the dumb fuck who has ruined the Metro with shit trams?!?!!

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Millions to get first cost-of-living payment from 14 July

 

I was thinking, this was a way to pass the public money into the private industry....yet again. OR that they are prepping us for the UBI...you know...get them used to handouts etc. If they stopped increasing the price, the government don't have to handout these extra money in the first place and it saves us from producing more stress hormones but I guess entities must be fed.

 

 

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20 hours ago, Nefaria said:

I sometimes wonder whether all public transportation is going to become "re-nationalised", I remember some talk in the recent past of doing it to the railways, maybe they will do it with buses too.

 

I forget the details now but there was some act of Parliament, the Bus Services Act, or something along those lines, from a couple of years back, which basically gave the new combined authorities, and other local authorities, the 'power' to introduce franchising models, similar to how TfL operate in London.

 

This wouldn't end up with a wholesale 'nationalising' of bus services, but it would see an end to commercial bus services run for profit. Instead ALL services would be managed by the local authority and contracts put out to tender, which operators would bid on to run.

 

In the West Midlands, this franchising model is not being considered (yet) by the WMCA (West Midlands Combined Authority) because the vast majority of public bus services are operated commercially by two big bus operators, so there is little cost to the taxpayer, apart from the few lesser used routes which are subsidised under contract.

 

I understand in Manchester that things are different, with the Labour mayor Andy Burnham being very keen to embrace the franchsing system. This will no doubt come at enormous cost to the taxpayer, with the authorities essentially having to 'buy' these commercially-operated bus services from the operators, and then award contracts in return to keep operating them.

 

The 'big' operators might be a bit pissy at first, but in the grand scheme of things they will end up benefiting. It will be the smaller independent operators who again lose out as they won't be able to compete for contracts, especially with all the requirements for zero-emmission vehicles, which are not exactly cheap to buy.

 

So despite 'free-market enterprise' you end up with bus operators having 'local monopolies', which the CMA (Competition and Markets Authority) cant enforce, simply because there is no local competition.

 

The big corporates end up owning it all, backed financially by the 'state' as well as their hedge-fund investors. Then the corporations become the 'state'.

 

Worse than socialism.

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On 6/15/2022 at 2:04 PM, DaleP said:

Millions to get first cost-of-living payment from 14 July

 

I was thinking, this was a way to pass the public money into the private industry....yet again. OR that they are prepping us for the UBI...you know...get them used to handouts etc. If they stopped increasing the price, the government don't have to handout these extra money in the first place and it saves us from producing more stress hormones but I guess entities must be fed.

 

 

 

That's basically what I think is happening... after all household energy bills are mostly rising because of 'green taxes' being imposed on energy producers and suppliers.

 

The government is collecting extra tax revenue, and then in a 'sleight of hand' is "giving it back" (or at least some of it) in the form of rebates and other handouts.

 

You're just getting your own money back, there's no 'extra support'.

 

And yes, it gets people sucked into the idea that the 'state' is there to help them and to become reliant upon...

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I lost my car back in 2009 and was devastated. For the first few weeks I couldn't fathom how I could possibly function without a car. Once I got a bike, I realised how illusory was my dependence on my car. In short: just ditch your car and get yourself a good bicycle.

 

You only think you need a car, but there's nowhere a bike and public transport won't get you, at a fraction of the cost, and not the financial and emotional burden that being a car owner is.


A bike costs nothing outside of the occasional inner tube replacement. It comes with none of the stress of a car owner. It gets you fit and healthy, whereas driving is  essentially just sitting on your ass. If there's traffic ahead, you just cycle on the pavement. You never have to worry about hitting someone, or being hit, never worry about being stuck in traffic, or worse, being stuck in traffic on a hot summer's day, or worry about where to park when there's no spaces, or pay extortionate parking fees because you want to pop into Tesco for a pint of milk. With no road tax, insurance, MOT or fuel costs you will save thousands a year.

 

But the real burden of being a car owner is the emotional one. Driving is stressful. The "Eff and blinding" drivers tend to do will over time become part of their DNA. They don't just become stressful and short tempered drivers, they become stressful and short tempered. Cycling OTOH has the opposite effect. The unhindered freedom that cycling is you could say is a law of attraction exercise that attracts freedom and autonomy.

 

Ditch you car and get a bike.

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Seems to be 'let's give them something a little bit nice and comfortable' then 'hehe, now let's make it harder to use' then 'haha, now let's just take it away'

 

They don't own everything. They don't own all the land in this world, people could remove themselves from this controlled  society and make new communities of their own on land far away from the land these grunts have stolen. I won't be around to see it in my life time but I hope people can eventually take off and break away. Just have to hope people will look after each other to do it.

 

It's so frustrating, there are enough people to take over all this shite and live free. FUCK FUCK FUCK!

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54 minutes ago, 4444444444 said:

I lost my car back in 2009 and was devastated. For the first few weeks I couldn't fathom how I could possibly function without a car. Once I got a bike, I realised how illusory was my dependence on my car. In short: just ditch your car and get yourself a good bicycle.

 

You only think you need a car, but there's nowhere a bike and public transport won't get you, at a fraction of the cost, and not the financial and emotional burden that being a car owner is.


A bike costs nothing outside of the occasional inner tube replacement. It comes with none of the stress of a car owner. It gets you fit and healthy, whereas driving is  essentially just sitting on your ass. If there's traffic ahead, you just cycle on the pavement. You never have to worry about hitting someone, or being hit, never worry about being stuck in traffic, or worse, being stuck in traffic on a hot summer's day, or worry about where to park when there's no spaces, or pay extortionate parking fees because you want to pop into Tesco for a pint of milk. With no road tax, insurance, MOT or fuel costs you will save thousands a year.

 

But the real burden of being a car owner is the emotional one. Driving is stressful. The "Eff and blinding" drivers tend to do will over time become part of their DNA. They don't just become stressful and short tempered drivers, they become stressful and short tempered. Cycling OTOH has the opposite effect. The unhindered freedom that cycling is you could say is a law of attraction exercise that attracts freedom and autonomy.

 

Ditch you car and get a bike.

This happened to me last week, car bit the dust and did without it all week. I didn't go as far as biking it but I've thoroughly loved getting the bus. No road rage, just sitting chilling, some strange smells on there but all in all, it's made me a happier person this week. Doing it again next week, no getting up at the crack of dawn to get a parking space and when there was an accident on the motorway stopping the bus services from running properly, was I bothered or stressed....no, I just went with the flow because I realised there was nothing I could do about that.

 

Initially, I couldn't think straight when I realised I had no car but once I'd made alternative arrangements I feel strangely happy enough to not stress rushing to get the car back on the road. Might not bother at all now. I have local shops near me, it won't kill me to not be able to just get in the car and zoom off where I want whenever I want, you start to adapt very quickly. There are always other options.

 

I think it's easy to panic and when you don't have those creature comforts you've got used to and sometimes people just can't see any other way sadly. I know if I was younger I wouldn't have been able to accept that I just don't NEED a car.

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