Another shooting ... False flag? Gun control?

[alexa]

At least NINETEEN primary school children shot dead by 'bullied' high school student, 18, who posted photos of rifles on Instagram and went on the rampage 'after an argument with his grandmother about failing to graduate'

An 18-year-old Texan has shot and killed 19 students and two teachers in the city of Uvalde, after first shooting his grandmother. He shared photos on social media of his guns and warned of the attack. The shooter engaged in a firefight with border patrol before the shooting and then ran into the school and barricaded himself inside the school. Police initially reported he was arrested before confirming he died. Photos outside the scene show a pickup truck that crashed outside the school, it was unclear if the car belonged to the gunman. Concerned parents were captured at the scene desperately searching for their children and video from the chaotic scene showed police arriving to the school campus with their guns in hand. One widely shared video appears to show the suspected gunman approach the school while what sounds like gunfire is going off in the background.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10850557/Active-shooter-loose-Texas-elementary-school-campus-plunged-lockdown.html

[alexa]

'I am begging you on my hands and knees, do something!' Sandy Hook congressman Chris Murphy begs Senate for gun reform after shooter, 18, kills 19 kids and two teachers at Uvalde elementary school

 

 

Daily Fail

 

[Saved]

39 minutes ago, alexa said:

At least NINETEEN primary school children shot dead by 'bullied' high school student, 18, who posted photos of rifles on Instagram and went on the rampage 'after an argument with his grandmother about failing to graduate'

An 18-year-old Texan has shot and killed 19 students and two teachers in the city of Uvalde, after first shooting his grandmother. He shared photos on social media of his guns and warned of the attack. The shooter engaged in a firefight with border patrol before the shooting and then ran into the school and barricaded himself inside the school. Police initially reported he was arrested before confirming he died. Photos outside the scene show a pickup truck that crashed outside the school, it was unclear if the car belonged to the gunman. Concerned parents were captured at the scene desperately searching for their children and video from the chaotic scene showed police arriving to the school campus with their guns in hand. One widely shared video appears to show the suspected gunman approach the school while what sounds like gunfire is going off in the background.

 

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10850557/Active-shooter-loose-Texas-elementary-school-campus-plunged-lockdown.html

I saw this last night and have to say that my default position is one of mistrust (as to the truth and validity of the event) and decided to have a look on here - but nobody seemed to either have noticed it happening or were probably groaning at the inevitability of this being a false flag and therefore not bothering to post about it out of exasperation. Yet one of these days there is bound to be a real event and then I would be in error calling something real to be false - calling the truth to be a lie.

 

My point is that this rotten world always tempts us towards either not believing the truth or believing a lie.

 

But even if this was a genuine shooting by a lunatic, with no involvement by anybody else, I bet the narrative is still loaded with anomalies - deliberately so - in order to distract folk from getting on with their lives or to discredit those who have called out false flags in the past. It is as if they want us to always be focusing on a conspiracy or a potential conspiracy whether there is one or not.

 

The argument against the Second Amendment of late has been stifled by shootings happening in States where no good man with a gun was there to stop a bad man with a gun. It is therefore of little surprise that an atrocity has now happened in Texas, where not even a license is required for over 21's.

 

Bring down Texas and you bring down the USA.

[alexa]

10 minutes ago, Saved said:

Yet one of these days there is bound to be a real event and then I would be in error calling something real to be false - calling the truth to be a lie.

 

This is why I am usually very cautious about what I post when it comes to stuff like this as you can't trust anyone these days. I personally would hate it to be true, but only time will tell.

[wideawake]

From what I see in the link provided, law enforcements were looking for explosive devices in the school.

If the young man went on a rampage after killing his grandmother, he still thought of bringing explosive devices to the school ?

He ends up in a shoot out with cops and injures 2 of them then went on to killing students?

A Ford 1/2 ton truck was found and believed to belong to the shooter, he must've had a good job to afford that truck...

It's quite amazing that we have the shooter on a good working camera prior to the shooting and the footage is released to the public instantly as opposed to cameras controlled by governments... they never work when needed. 

 

If this tragic "event" is true then we should have very young men as law enforcements as they seem to have better control of themselves in stressful situations then cops we hear about every day.

 

Yeah right 

[Velma]

2 hours ago, alexa said:

'I am begging you on my hands and knees, do something!' Sandy Hook congressman Chris Murphy begs Senate for gun reform after shooter, 18, kills 19 kids and two teachers at Uvalde elementary school

 

 

Daily Fail

 

 

Problem: mass shootings

Reaction: Do something!

Solution: Gun control.

[Janet W]

Blimey. It's been a few hours since this tragedy. Has no one here yet repeated the this-is-to-promote-gun-control, false-flag, crisis actors memes yet?

[Saved]

1 hour ago, Janet W said:

Blimey. It's been a few hours since this tragedy. Has no one here yet repeated the this-is-to-promote-gun-control, false-flag, crisis actors memes yet?

Feels like everybody is just too tired of it all to bother. I know that I am - I look at the news that comes my way (I never search for it) and just glaze over and shrug my shoulders. I really don't care for anything that isn't happening before my eyes in my sphere of influence.

[4444444444]

"Gender-fluid isn't 'a mental illness"

 

Gunman:

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2022 by 4444444444

[screamingeagle]

3 hours ago, Velma said:

 

Problem: mass shootings

Reaction: Do something!

Solution: Gun control.

Partial control/one side, to be more percise.....

[Edgewood]

It's probably in pretty poor taste to suggest the dead children were crisis actors.....

 

There's more than enough evil swirling around in the world to possess one particularly unpleasant dimwit with a gun.....

 

I always considered the 'crisis actors' trope to be a particularly clever form of disinformation to discredit conspiracy research.

 

Look what it did to Alex Jones....basically ruined his operation and reputation. 

 

 

 

 

[DaleP]

Have you ever wondered why shooting almost always occurs in schools?

For example, never in a factorty or let alone financial institution offices like HSBC....

One could argue that the security is tight but surely there must be other places? A hospital....train station?

[DaleP]

2 hours ago, 4444444444 said:

Gunman:

 

Are you sure about that?

Someone will call you out as a racist for not using the correct term....

Which gender category this person fits into?

Gungenderfluid? May be genderfluid gun person?

What if he/she considers IT.... Gunit?

 

[Beaujangles]

58 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

It's probably in pretty poor taste to suggest the dead children were crisis actors.....

 

There's more than enough evil swirling around in the world to possess one particularly unpleasant dimwit with a gun.....

 

I always considered the 'crisis actors' trope to be a particularly clever form of disinformation to discredit conspiracy research.

 

Look what it did to Alex Jones....basically ruined his operation and reputation. 

 

 

 

 

Children are not usually willing when it comes to being manipulated. They don't grasp the concept especially when being done by people they love.

[novymir]

It's not real. This isn't "reality".

It's an ugly, deceptive dream that has captured the consciousness of most humans, and does not want to let them go. It uses trauma, deception, and seduction to assimilate and hold them in allegiance to a system of belief that is contrary to Truth, and therefore; contrary to Reality.

 

It is what is attacking. Attempting to obscure, deny, discredit, and reject the Truth, and attempting to validate and justify lies. Anti-Christ(egoic) consciousness.

 

The Real cannot be harmed and is completely harmless. The Real is Eternal.

 

This thing is like a tumorous dream, it is benign on the surface, it cannot grow or spread or hurt Reality, but within, it is malignant.

It/We are/is surrounded and infused with Loving Creation, but with the inversion we have given great value to the valueless.....and actually fear Reality...but it's the ego(disingenious "self") that is deceiving people into selling themselves because they have bought into its lies about themselves,others, Reality and "GOD".

True Will is not ego "will".

 

 

 

 

[Edgewood]

 

I would err on the side of assuming this is 'real' beca

14 minutes ago, novymir said:

It's not real. This isn't "reality".

It's an ugly, deceptive dream that has captured the consciousness of most humans, and does not want to let them go. It uses trauma, deception, and seduction to assimilate and hold them in allegiance to a system of belief that is contrary to Truth, and therefore; contrary to Reality.

 

It is what is attacking. Attempting to obscure, deny, discredit, and reject the Truth, and attempting to validate and justify lies. Anti-Christ(egoic) consciousness.

 

The Real cannot be harmed and is completely harmless. The Real is Eternal.

 

This thing is like a tumorous dream, it is benign on the surface, it cannot grow or spread or hurt Reality, but within, it is malignant.

It/We are/is surrounded and infused with Loving Creation, but with the inversion we have given great value to the valueless.....and actually fear Reality...but it's the ego(disingenious "self") that is deceiving people into selling themselves because they have bought into its lies about themselves,others, Reality and "GOD".

True Will is not ego "will".

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's not the argument.

 

People are saying this didn't actually happen.

 

I think it's probably best to assume it probably did. It's the kind of thing that is ten a penny in this fallen world.

 

To do otherwise opens you up to self-delusion....confusion....and a loss of sense of reality......

 

While we're here it's best to at least keep one eye on what can be deduced to be qualifiably real.....just for the sake of accuracy.

 

All the more reason to looking forward to getting of this mad spinning rock when the time comes.

[alexa]

Gunman shot dead again as per.  I wonder if we'll see little Noah again or a laughing Parker, I wouldn't put nothing against this lot, they are getting so sloppy.

[Edgewood]

12 minutes ago, alexa said:

Gunman shot dead again as per.  I wonder if we'll see little Noah again or a laughing Parker, I wouldn't put nothing against this lot, they are getting so sloppy.

 

It is odd that when the shooter is white, then he manages to stay alive and survive to be some kind of perpetual bogeyman of white-supremacism and racial hatred....but when the shooter is black or hispanic they are quickly disposed of and enter the communal memory hole.....as if they never existed.

 

Could just be a coincidence of course....just a trend I've noticed.

Edited May 25, 2022 by Edgewood

[novymir]

25 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 

I would err on the side of assuming this is 'real' beca

 

 

That's not the argument.

 

People are saying this didn't actually happen.

 

I think it's probably best to assume it probably did. It's the kind of thing that is ten a penny in this fallen world.

 

To do otherwise opens you up to self-delusion....confusion....and a loss of sense of reality......

 

While we're here it's best to at least keep one eye on what can be deduced to be qualifiably real.....just for the sake of accuracy.

 

All the more reason to looking forward to getting of this mad spinning rock when the time comes.

It is self-delusion, confusion, and a loss of sense of reality that makes up this "world", is the definition of this "world". and this so-called "life". That is what sustains it.

This world is less than "fallen", it doesn't exist at all. It's a mere fantasy-hallucination that's already been discarded and forgotten in Eternity, we in time have yet to experience that, but it is an inevitability. The "time" is anytime, and always now.

 

 

 

Edited May 25, 2022 by novymir
ps; I don't engage in argument

[Edgewood]

8 minutes ago, novymir said:

It is self-delusion, confusion, and a loss of sense of reality that makes up this "world", is the definition of this "world". and this so-called "life". That is what sustains it.

This world is less than "fallen", it doesn't exist at all. It's a mere fantasy-hallucination that's already been discarded and forgotten in Eternity, we in time have yet to experience that, but it is an inevitability. The "time" is anytime, and always now.

 

 

 

 

Yes indeed, in a sense it has already been forgotten in eternity.... I totally agree.

 

But we are here and we have to reconcile that reality of where we are, with our sense of present reality.

If only perhaps...... to understand just how fallen this 3rd density low light realm is.......and all the more reason to appreciate the leaving of it and not to seek to return here under any circumstances....

 

But I think we are also here to fully understand to the best of our ability......just how stupid and evil the world can be...... if only to preserve ourselves and our lives for better things...... having a somewhat secure sense of what is real and what is not is also a decent survival mechanism....and since we are here we presumably have a duty to survive to the best of our ability until old age takes us into the eternal light.

[Edgewood]

It might be tempting to 'edit' pain and suffering out of your reality....but we have to accept that we share a world with these attrocities...and that compassion is a positive virtue.... but to deny such things, claim they are not real, don't exist, are the work of crisis actors or any of the above...... is not expressing decent human empathy....

 

We have to accept that there is suffering.... not deny it. We can make our own lives pleasant.......but we should not try to erase the pain of others from reality because it discomforts us.......

 

Hopefully one day everyone will reach transcendence..... in the meantime, let the parents grieve their loss......... and understand the reality of that grief.....

 

It comes from a world in chaos ruled by evil forces..... it is unlikely that those parents ever understood this....perhaps now they do...but at a terrible price.

 

 

[Anti Facts Sir]

3 hours ago, DaleP said:

Have you ever wondered why shooting almost always occurs in schools?

For example, never in a factorty or let alone financial institution offices like HSBC....

One could argue that the security is tight but surely there must be other places? A hospital....train station?

There was that event in a New York subway earlier this year.

[Tinfoil Hat]

I read about it yesterday and refrained from commenting because it takes a while for enough information to emerge to have half a chance of assessing what's fact and what's fiction.

 

As for that twit begging on his knees with a bizarre smirk plastered over his face, just the mention of his involvement with Sandy Hook is enough to make me vomit.

[Skotfreezy]

[Itsjaybigjay]

26 minutes ago, Skotfreezy said:

Something smells very off doesn't it!