Have homophobia and misogyny been defeated?

[Gnostic Christian]

On 5/23/2022 at 12:01 PM, Bombadil said:

I agree as well that promotion of things such as paedophilia and bestiality are pretty fucked up. Unfortunately the spoiled woke brats are in charge and our masters love it

 

 

Reciprocity is fair play.

 

Someone might convince me to throw pedophile priests off of buildings.

 

Regards

DL

[Gnostic Christian]

On 5/23/2022 at 1:55 PM, XelNaga said:

If that can happen by consuming a natures product, who knows what all kinds of hell can happen inside ones body from man-made toxins.

A good point, because in homophobes, it inhibits their morality to where they discriminate against their own children without a just cause.

 

They put sex and gender above love.

 

Perhaps an anti homophobia pill can be produced.

 

Regards

DL

[Anti Facts Sir]

6 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Your last is likely correct and I see poorly.

 

No one will sensor you hare, so please, provide an argument for what is the right wing view, if I can call it that.

 

Let us both speak our minds and show each other how to have a productive engagement with the other side.

 

I sense that you might have what it takes. We might be the few.

 

What is the just cause you see to discriminate against gays or women?

 

Regards

DL

 

I'm not sure what gives you the idea that I condone hatred of gays. I am against the pro-LBTQ+agenda that is shoved in our faces. I am against the promotion of gender changing, the chopping off or adding of bits to those who are in their early teens. I am against anything of that kind.

 

But against a person being gay? No. I know enough gay people in my life to be better than that.

[XelNaga]

13 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Been there buddy.

 

What kind of content gets you axed?

 

Mine is when I try to get immoral Christians to talk morals.

 

Regards

DL

 

Hi brother,

 

No content, just comments about the dangers of convid "vaccines", facts and stats about convid being fake, and facts and science that oppose lgbt propaganda.

 

Instant ban 

[XelNaga]

8 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

A good point, because in homophobes, it inhibits their morality to where they discriminate against their own children without a just cause.

 

They put sex and gender above love.

 

Perhaps an anti homophobia pill can be produced.

 

Regards

DL

I'm not sure what you mean by "homophobes", as that word makes absolutely no sense. No one if afraid of homos.

 

A tiny percentage of people hate them and wish/cause them harm whenever they can.

 

A huge percentage of people has no problem with homos, as long as they behave like normal people.

 

Every sane person do have a problem with obvious lgbt propaganda, which has nothing to do with people rights. It has a much more nefarious agenda behind it, which is rather obvious.

 

Kind regards..

[XelNaga]

9 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

Let me agree as a devil's advocate.

 

Why them, if the system is to blame, are we using laws to punish the indoctrinated children instead of the system?

 

Rather a strange justice. Right?

 

Regards

DL

 

Because the system will never punish itself. Why would it punish itself for doing something that it wants to be done?

 

There is no justice in this world, at least not man-made justice.

 

And things will never change, unless people grab some shitty sticks and start smacking those "system-people" on their heads, really really hard 

[Edgewood]

12 hours ago, Gnostic Christian said:

A good point, because in homophobes, it inhibits their morality to where they discriminate against their own children without a just cause.

 

They put sex and gender above love.

 

Perhaps an anti homophobia pill can be produced.

 

Regards

DL

 

Why are you so bothered?

Why not just get on with being gay or not being gay...... but keep it private and don't exploit or abuse anyone?

 

That used to be the way gayness was done.....the same as heterosexuality. It's supposed to be something private....

 

The expulsive nature of the gay movement in my opinion, indicate underlying unresolved trauma which the movement seems to have as a whole.

 

There never seems to be a settled peace.... but always more and more conflict, the gay movement always demanding more moral dominance....

The whole thing seems chaotic.....

 

Edited May 29, 2022 by Edgewood

[Youknownothingbutyou]

2 hours ago, Edgewood said:

 

Why are you so bothered?

Why not just get on with being gay or not being gay...... but keep it private and don't exploit or abuse anyone?

 

That used to be the way gayness was done.....the same as heterosexuality. It's supposed to be something private....

 

The expulsive nature of the gay movement in my opinion, indicate underlying unresolved trauma which the movement seems to have as a whole.

 

There never seems to be a settled peace.... but always more and more conflict, the gay movement always demanding more moral dominance....

The whole thing seems chaotic.....

 

The thing appear chaotic cause its driven by msm jews. Its not organic. The gay community is being used to destabilize the youth. 
 

 

Edited May 29, 2022 by Youknownothingbutyou

[Fluke]

On 5/29/2022 at 12:28 AM, Anti Facts Sir said:

I'm not sure what gives you the idea that I condone hatred of gays. I am against the pro-LBTQ+agenda that is shoved in our faces. I am against the promotion of gender changing, the chopping off or adding of bits to those who are in their early teens. I am against anything of that kind.

 

But against a person being gay? No. I know enough gay people in my life to be better than that.

Exactly but not many people grasp the difference between the alphabet people and genuine homosexuals. 

The homosexuals have let the Marxists subvert it into a cause and to shove it in people's faces. This has only made it homophobia worse. 

 

And they are trying to normalise it when it shouldn't be normalised. Thought the homosexuals of yesteryear delighted in being genuine outcasts it was like an underground scene. Homosexuals used to speak their own language and hide out in pubs etc. Around my way they have a "gay friendly pub, all gays welcome" and it's littered with rainbow flags.

 

What does that mean? It wasn't friendly before? If the world is so homophobic why would they advertise themselves? Also why are homosexuals letting these lobby's try to normalise it?

Why do we want footballers to come out? I thought part of the lifestyle was to head home with a bouncer on your shoulder. Not get married, get a dog etc. It's just bizarre. I don't like how sex is being normalised either to be honest as opposed to genuine love making. It should remain taboo. We are on a perverted road to nowhere. 

 

Someone's sexuality is the least interesting thing to me about a person. Only thing I find vaguely interesting is the gay sub cultures (old fashioned early, polari, Kenneth Williams around the hourne etc) other than that it's just attention seeking. 

 

[Fluke]

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kentonline.co.uk/whats-on/news/amp/pride-party-makes-its-debut-in-kent-town-267957/

 

@EnigmaticWorld I'll see you there mate?

[Macnamara]

i was on youtube and for some reason ended up looking nostalgically at some 1990's tv content and i was struck by how normal campness and gayness and transexualism was back then. It was all pretty accepted and wasn't a big deal

 

But then in the 2000's LGBT has been blown up into this massive thing where they are tilting at windmills and fighting against some sort of invisible bogeyman that was clearly not existent by the 90's

 

Its a storm in a tea cup so then you have to ask why they are doing it and the reason is that the impetus for it isn't really coming from grassroots gay people most of which are just quietly going about their lives the same as everyone else.

 

The impetus for the hype and noise and pressure comes from the elites themselves who own the mega corporations that control and shape popular culture. The reason they are pushing certain things is because they are waging an all out assault on western civilisation and its christian traditions of family, community and god given rights

 

The illuminati want to wield absolute power so they can't have people believing in a power that's higher than them because if they do they will not accept the absolute rule of the illuminati-state. The illuminati want the state to control everyones children so that they can brainwash them into being slaves on the technocratic-plantation so in order to do that they have to insert the state in between the children and the parents which means destroying the family bond

 

To destroy the family bond they have to attack the central gravitational force around which the family revolves which is the cooperative partnership between a man and a woman who are of one mind to raise children, nurture them, provide for them and protect them.

 

This is why the 'battle of the sexes' is pushed the whole time along with militant anti-man marxist feminism to drive a wedge between men and women and who could argue that it isn't working to a large extent when we see the level of family breakdown in the modern world?

 

The purpose of the trans agenda is not to try and make life better for people with gender confusion because the elites don't give a damn about them. What the elites are doing is pushing countless corporate products onto people that then expose them to endocrine disrupting, hormone mimicking chemicals that gender bend people and then in order to conceal their crimes they have to NORMALISE the effects they are having on people and they do this by criminalising any questioning of what is going on whilst coercing people into celebrating the changes that are being wrought on society

 

its diabolical

[Fluke]

 

[pi3141]

On 6/1/2022 at 10:16 AM, Macnamara said:

i was on youtube and for some reason ended up looking nostalgically at some 1990's tv content and i was struck by how normal campness and gayness and transexualism was back then. It was all pretty accepted and wasn't a big deal

 

But then in the 2000's LGBT has been blown up into this massive thing where they are tilting at windmills and fighting against some sort of invisible bogeyman that was clearly not existent by the 90's

 

Its a storm in a tea cup so then you have to ask why they are doing it and the reason is that the impetus for it isn't really coming from grassroots gay people most of which are just quietly going about their lives the same as everyone else.

 

The impetus for the hype and noise and pressure comes from the elites themselves who own the mega corporations that control and shape popular culture. The reason they are pushing certain things is because they are waging an all out assault on western civilisation and its christian traditions of family, community and god given rights

 

Yes I agree. School of Frankfurt and all that.

 

On 6/1/2022 at 10:16 AM, Macnamara said:

The illuminati want to wield absolute power so they can't have people believing in a power that's higher than them because if they do they will not accept the absolute rule of the illuminati-state. The illuminati want the state to control everyones children so that they can brainwash them into being slaves on the technocratic-plantation so in order to do that they have to insert the state in between the children and the parents which means destroying the family bond

 

To destroy the family bond they have to attack the central gravitational force around which the family revolves which is the cooperative partnership between a man and a woman who are of one mind to raise children, nurture them, provide for them and protect them.

 

This is why the 'battle of the sexes' is pushed the whole time along with militant anti-man marxist feminism to drive a wedge between men and women and who could argue that it isn't working to a large extent when we see the level of family breakdown in the modern world?

 

The modern world you say?

 

But where can we trace this back to?

 

I will try, 2000 years ago the Roman Catholic Church instigated a doctrine into the Christian faith. They proposed that as Women were made from the Rib of Adam as described in the Bible, Women were spiritually weaker. This is borne out because it says in the Bible that God created Man FIRST (Primary = most important) God made Man out of 'Holy Dust' and blew life into him. Then God took a small, unimportant part of Adam, just his Rib, and out of this small amount of Holy material God made an entire Woman. Hence Women are made of less 'Holy Stuff' than Men. This means, from a spiritual perspective Women are weaker than Men - made of less Holy stuff.

 

In addition to this, it was Eve who was tempted by the serpent in the garden, the RC church contend if the serpent had tried to tempt Adam, it would not have been successful but because Eve was weaker than Adam she was tempted and then dragged Adam into her mistake in an act of evil. This further evidences that Women are not only weaker than Men but also that they are inherently wicked and evil or more easily subjected to evil forces.

 

Because of this view backed up by scripture the Roman church managed to portray Women as weak and inferior to Men. Of course the Muslim Men have absolutely run with this philosophy and taken it to the extreme. As a result of the church pronouncing Women as weaker the Islamic church has merely endorsed the view of the people of the Book and further restricted Womens movements and actions to that of subservient slavery.

 

So, you say this plan is of the Illuminati, I say the Illuminati and the School of Frankfurt were only established relatively recently compared to the doctrine or philosophy that Women are weaker by the Christian Church 2000 years ago.

 

But it goes further.

 

The Christian Bible, particularly the Old Testament is largely taken from earlier sources by the Jews when in captivity in Babylon. The Babylonian magicians furnished the Jews with their religion. But the stories were merely taken from earlier Sumerian sources or Egyptian sources hence this 'Anti-Family-Unity' philosophy can be traced back through the West in Rome and further back to the Babylonians and again further back to the Egyptians and Sumerians.

The British Government endorsed the Roman Church doctrine that Women were weaker and forbid women from working, holding ministerial positions and holding priesthoods (that was the Church)

 

All the people that have supported the Government have of course endorsed the view.

 

The schools and Universities taught the view.

 

And the people were brainwashed and accepted it and incorporated it into their lives for hundreds of years.

 

So who are the Illuminati? 

 

School of Frankfurt established - 1929

 

Don't you think the school of Frankfurt were late to the party? Can you see this has been going on for over 2000 years?

 

This is not a modern phenomena.

Edited June 2, 2022 by pi3141

[Edgewood]

There was no such thing as the Catholic church 2,000 years ago. You are inaccurate and your conclusions are similarly inaccurate. 

[Edgewood]

 

If the Babylonian magicians furnished the Jews with their religion then why is everything in the Bible specifically against Babylon and Babylonian magicians?

 

[pi3141]

40 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

There was no such thing as the Catholic church 2,000 years ago. You are inaccurate and your conclusions are similarly inaccurate. 

 

Oh I see you want specifics and you don't recognize a summary statement.

 

Very well, the Catholic church was predominantly established by Constantine at his council. However the faith and writings and hence the book of Genesis was in existance prior to Constantine.

 

In fact we can say the book of Genesis was in existence during Jesus' life which was supposedly 2000 years ago give ir take 30 years.

 

Did I really need to explain that to you?

[pi3141]

43 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 

If the Babylonian magicians furnished the Jews with their religion then why is everything in the Bible specifically against Babylon and Babylonian magicians?

 

 

Lol.

 

I'll let you work that out.

 

How come Hitler was all for Blonde Hair and Blue eyes when he himself was Brown Hair and Brown eyes. Surely it would make more sense to demonize those not the same as him.

 

I'm generalising but its quite a strong hint.

 

Do you know anything about confidence scams and trickery or magical misdirection or brainwashing techniques?

 

Do you think you can reason it from that?

[pi3141]

52 minutes ago, Edgewood said:

 You are inaccurate and your conclusions are similarly inaccurate. 

 

Explain why women were not allowed to be priests or vicars.

 

Explain why Islam views women as inferior or second to men.

Edited June 2, 2022 by pi3141

[pi3141]

From Quora (asked or rather answered 3 years ago) - 

 

If as the Bible states, woman came from man’s rib, then why are women considered equal to man? I’m assuming the Bible is accurate.

 

An answer - 

 

Why would coming from man’s rib imply inequality? Genesis calls Eve Adam’s “helper” and “counterpart.” I am not a Hebrew scholar, but “counterpart” implies equality, and “helper” does not imply hierarchy. In the New Testament, the Holy Spirit is called our “parakletos,” one who is called alongside, very close to (and sometimes translated as) “helper.” And there is surely no implication that because the Spirit is our “parakletos,” that therefore we are more important or above the Spirit.

 

Link - https://www.quora.com/If-as-the-Bible-states-woman-came-from-man-s-rib-then-why-are-women-considered-equal-to-man-I-m-assuming-the-Bible-is-accurate

 

 

So, it seems the view that women are less equal than men because they came from a rib is around in Christianity - no?

[pi3141]

Traditional Christian Views

 

In this section of the OCR RS DCT A2 course you will learn about the traditional Christian beliefs about women. The key thinkers for this section ard Augustine, Aquinas and Luther. As their names are mentioned in the specification you could get a question specifically about them.

 

'The patriarchal Christianity that came to dominate the Christian Church in classical orthodoxy never went so far as to completely deny women's participation in the image of God...[but] at times...Christian churchmen came perilously close to this view of women as sin.'

 

'Even in the original, unfallen creation, woman would have been subordinate and under the dominion of man...the woman should have deferred to the man, who represents, in greater fullness than herself, the principle of "headship" mind or reason. He, in turn should regard her as representing the part of himself that must be repressed and kept under control by reason to prevent a fall into sin and disorder.'

 

'Within sinful, fallen, historical conditions, however, woman's suppression must be redoubled. Proneness to sin and disorder is  no longer potential but actual, and woman is particularly responsible for it.'

 

snip

 

The key ideas that you should remember from last year are:

Eve was created to be a helper in the task of procreation (for other tasks a man would be better).

 

snip

 

'Earlier synthesis of Genesis with Greek Philosophical concepts had, following Philo, tended to associate women's inferior origins and subordination with her lesser rationality. Augustine strongly opposed such interpretations, seeing them as inconsistent with the Christian commitment to spiritual equality...'

 

Link - http://www.philosopherkings.co.uk/Traditionalviewsonwomen.html

 

 

I rest my case.

 

Now Edgewood, show me where I am wrong.

 

What are your sources that you can so positively disagree with this view or understanding of early Christianity.

[pi3141]

4 hours ago, Edgewood said:

 You are inaccurate and your conclusions are similarly inaccurate. 

 

I have shown evidence that what I have stated IS a Christian view.

 

I have shown evidence that what I have stated WAS an early Christian interpretation of scripture.

 

Now prove me wrong.

 

You are so certain in your assertion, what are your sources?

[Macnamara]

The catholic church has been fought over by different factions who sought to have their pope in power

 

The jesuits were formed by an illuminised marrano jew ignatius loyolla who based it on the templar order. The current pope is a jesuit and a globalist. The illuminati are illuminised 33rd degree freemasons and they control the vatican.

 

The roman church sought to end trial by combat because it thought it a sin to tempt God to intervene in human matters. It banned trial by duel in the lateran council in 1215. By 1230 there was a legal profession being taught in universities in europe.

 

Prior to this disputes were resolved through the custom local to that place. The problem with trial by duel is obvious in that one party could get a champion to fight for them which might favour the richer party who could pay someone to fight on their behalf.

 

In viking lands an accused person would have to carry a red hot bar nine paces but there were problems with this as if there were three people to undergo the trial that day then obviously the third person had an advantage as the bar would have cooled considerably by the time it was their turn. Elsewhere the accused would be bound and then dropped in cold water and if they sunk then they were innocent but obviously a person could blow air out of their lungs in order to sink unless perhaps they were corpulent in which case they may have been in deep trouble

 

So the church did play a civilising role in northern europe. Its not all black and white. Christianity also played a major role in boosting literacy across europe.

 

All these processes took europe to a place in which it was able to offer women more opportunities and freedoms than anywhere else on the planet

Edited June 2, 2022 by Macnamara

[theo102]

4 hours ago, pi3141 said:

Explain why Islam views women as inferior or second to men.

 

The doctrine of two or three witnesses is related to the Islamic teaching that the testimony of a woman has only half the value of a man's.

"Two or three" implies that not all witnesses have the same value of testimony. The Quran endorses the Moses, so that implictly endorses that doctrine.
 

[tommydrifter]

I have come to understand that homosexuality is a combination of reptilian genetics, your mind-pattern, and programming. It is not "natural". I am not here to tell people what to do with their lives but the truth is that mind-control is the illuminati's method-of-operation and homosexuality is programmed into people via carrier waves (satellite transmissions) and the mass media (programming icons). If you are homosexual, you need to deprogram, using deprogramming techniques as taught by Dr. Swerdlow. Homosexuality is part of the mind-control agenda. If you learn to think like a mentalist, you will see for yourself how this works. To homosexuals, remember you are a person, not a sexual orientation, and that your sexual orientation is due to your programming, it is not intrinsic to who you are (although you probably have sadism/masochism in your mind-pattern). We all have programming. This is the truth. What is called "homophobia" is a natural reaction to something that is not natural. The hostility toward homosexuals, I disagree with, we are all victims in the mind-control agenda, but the disgust is a natural reaction. On the earth, what it is, is not not what it seems due to mind-control. My love to all: I have programming, you have programming, we all have programming. Moderators, feel free to ban me from this community for these truthful comments. I will take that as confirmation that this is an operation and Icke is a programming icon and I will happily move on with my life. (No offense intended, I do not know the truth about Icke, but I question the authenticity of all public figures -- as should you.)

 

[pi3141]

9 hours ago, theo102 said:

 The Quran endorses the Moses, so that implictly endorses that doctrine.

 

The Quaran also endorses 'the book' and accepts doctrines derived from the book by scriptual interpretation as valid.

 

The Quaran came along to bring the Muslims 'the message' and update the previous tachings and finalize Gods word.