tommydrifter Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just now, TheConsultant said: Your homosexual friends use the term "shitcunt?" Yes, they do. They have dirty minds and they are dirty fuckers. (Think about it.) 9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 Just now, tommydrifter said: Yes, they do. They have dirty minds and they are dirty fuckers. (Think about it.) Go do something more productive ;) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 3, 2022 Author Share Posted June 3, 2022 4 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: The illuminati are not enlightened or informed, they have been played just as much as the general public, if not more because they have been manipulated in to doing heinous things along the way to gain power. Yes, spot on, mate. But who programs the illuminati? This is what I am trying to get through to you all. This is why I keep pointing you in the direction of Karl Mollison as oz93666 did before me. oz93666 knew the truth and you stupid idiots on the forums all ignored him. And now the guy has left, fed up with you all, and so we all lose a vital information source. Intelligent people lose patience with idiots and move on... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 3, 2022 Share Posted June 3, 2022 (edited) 31 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: Yes, spot on, mate. But who programs the illuminati? This is what I am trying to get through to you all. This is why I keep pointing you in the direction of Karl Mollison as oz93666 did before me. oz93666 knew the truth and you stupid idiots on the forums all ignored him. And now the guy has left, fed up with you all, and so we all lose a vital information source. Intelligent people lose patience with idiots and move on... Oz made some fantastic posts over the years I cannot deny that, his like and promotion of Karl is ill informed. Illuminati SERVE something otherworldly supposedly, they are not programmed by it, it has to come from them volunteering, information and false reality/history reiterates the lies they are fed as its incredibly compartmentalised information in order to keep the carrot dangling in front, higher ranks higher enlightenment, when in reality its a tip toe towards open satanism. Most secret societies are inadvertently serving the same structure just at varying degrees Edited June 3, 2022 by TheConsultant 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Good morning to all reading this (it is a new day here where I am). I have a mild hangover. continuing (re: the post above)... I think you are over complicating things with your analysis. To know the true reality requires clear thinking, not deep thinking. I have noticed that followers of David Icke tend to prefer metaphysical explanations for the controlling force - a non-human force, the spider in the web, wetiko - in a sense that is not wrong but in my opinion that is deep thinking not clear thinking. oz93666, in a post on these forums, was pointing out how David Icke got off track after writing The Biggest Secret, in which he published truths about the illuminati shapeshifters and reptilian extraterrestrials. I say that clear thinking points to the fact that reptilian extraterrestrials created the illuminati (genetic engineering programs) to serve them as their envoys on the earth. You do not have to be a genius, but you do need to think clearly, to see what is what. It is hard to see the obvious because of the mind-control bombardment that is both incessant and "full-spectrum". The illuminati use programming icons to subtly influence your thinking so that "truth" is not in alignment with reality (mind-manipulation). I do not know who is a programming icon and who is not - not casting aspersions - but as far as I can trust my perceptions, the information being posted to this forum (in general) is not in close alignment with reality. I have made this point a few times already because I am wondering why that is the case? oz93666's knowledge, after forty years of research, was in close alignment with reality. As far as I can trust my perceptions, oz93666 had the complete picture and that is why he promoted Karl Mollison -- because he knew that this is the most direct route to the truth. Edited June 4, 2022 by tommydrifter inserted two words; formatting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: I think you are over complicating things with your analysis. Not an analysis nor overcomplicating anything, its based on very hard to swallow reality having been around the occult for my entire life. As for Oz, he did some great research/posts, he was not right on a number of occasions. But keep exploring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 16 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: Not an analysis nor overcomplicating anything, its based on very hard to swallow reality having been around the occult for my entire life. The point I am wanting to get across is that true reality is not hard to understand. The illuminati's goal is to confuse you. It should be clear as day what is what. If you feel doubtful there is more work to do. Occultism is a major part of the illuminati's operations as I see it. In my understanding this is where the lower astral planes are accessed in satanic rituals, dark spirits invoked and so on. (Karl Mollison, incidentally, talks about dark spirits and the astral planes all of the time.) For sure, occultism is not my area of interest or expertise. 19 minutes ago, TheConsultant said: As for Oz, he did some great research/posts, he was not right on a number of occasions Nobody knows it all, mate. I respect oz93666 for his forty plus years of extensive research and clear thinking. In my judgment, he knows way more than I do about all of this, as you do about many things, as everybody does about many things. However, what I do know, I know. It is best to get a number of perspectives -- the problem is, due to mind-control, everybody is crackers. (One of my criticisms of oz93666 was that I felt he was inclined, at times, to be too believing of woowoo information as truthful; but in general, I felt oz93666 had the complete picture in terms of true reality, as it is.) Just to conclude this, so you all know, I am thinking clearly right now but I am also strongly programmed. In my judgment, I am thinking more clearly than just about everybody here because otherwise you would all be agreeing with me. When you see it (something) for what it (something) is, you feel sure. You know. Good onya netizens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 6 hours ago, tommydrifter said: The point I am wanting to get across is that true reality is not hard to understand. The illuminati's goal is to confuse you. It should be clear as day what is what. If you feel doubtful there is more work to do. Occultism is a major part of the illuminati's operations as I see it. In my understanding this is where the lower astral planes are accessed in satanic rituals, dark spirits invoked and so on. (Karl Mollison, incidentally, talks about dark spirits and the astral planes all of the time.) For sure, occultism is not my area of interest or expertise. The Illuminati are a group of very insecure people ultimately, incredibly so. They quite literally exchange things of worth (which this planet makes you believe are worthless) for things that are worthless (which this planet makes you believe are valuable). Selling aspects of themselves in order to gain monetarily etc. Understand that the illuminati and similar are essentially a cult that has been around for thousands of years, not under the same name, but the same bloodlines behind all of it passing power on down in families. They are the shadow Government. They are not enlightened on any level but they sure as hell believe they are. 6 hours ago, tommydrifter said: Nobody knows it all, mate I do not claim to know all of it. 6 hours ago, tommydrifter said: I respect oz93666 for his forty plus years of extensive research and clear thinking Its dedication, doesn't mean he was accurate on major elements of it. He didn't have the fundamentals correct, how can you build a solid house of understanding with poor foundations? As I have said multiple times, some of his posts were fantastic. Doesn't mean a good handful were absolute bollocks now does it? 6 hours ago, tommydrifter said: In my judgment, I am thinking more clearly than just about everybody here because otherwise you would all be agreeing with me. Just that thinking alone shows you have work to do. I will end with this, what the very top of the power structure believes, does and thinks the exact inversion of that thinking, those beliefs and what they do is the truth of this planet and its many varied inhabitants. Truth isn't secrets held within a secret society, no no no. Truth is we are all far more than you have ever been told, or probably experienced, I do not have answers I do know from experience that far more good exists than negative, and negative can only exist where you feed it, give credence to it and essentially nurture it. Karl merely puts people off exploring their own sense of things, the opposite is true, we should all be exploring our own sense of things away from outside influence. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 The Illuminati (which is not a single organisation but more an ongoing training programme) have something which they consider enlightenment or illumination, which is indistinguishable from schizophrenia. This is why drugs and sex are so much part of the Illuminati and their values, because for them, these things actually are a form of medication in order to manage their mental symptoms. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 NEW AGE SPIRITUALITY positive love only light only positive energy only TRUE SPIRITUALITY G ~ /i\ love is a frequency that can be applied positively or negatively dark and light neutral energy comprising positive and negative polarities TRUE REALITY ON THE EARTH negative extraterrestrials dark spirits mind-control and programming satanic ritual child sexual abuse rape culture THE LOWER ASTRAL PLANES dark THE UPPER ASTRAL PLANES light The "stage" of True Reality comprises the Physical Universe, the Astral Planes, and Hyperspace. DISCLAIMER I am doing my best to communicate truthful information for your benefit, not mine. I welcome all corrections, clarifications, and queries. I am a programmed human being like you are. I am in the process of working out what is what. Much of this information is intuited to be truthful rather than verified to be truthful through experience. I am no expert but because no one else is talking sense, I am doing my best to step up and fill the vacuum. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 13 RULING FAMILIES -- ILLUMINATI (SHAPESHIFTERS) 1. Rothschild (Bauer) -- Pindar 2. Bruce 3. Cavendish (Kennedy) 4. de Medici 5. Hanover 6. Hapsburg 7. Krupps 8. Plantagenet 9. Rockefeller 10. Romanov 11. Sinclair / St. Clair 12. Warburg (del Banco) 13. Windsor (Saxe - Coburg - Gothe) -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- | COMMITTEE OF 300 (FAMILIES) Blue Blood, True Blood: Conflict and Creation, p. 174 https://www.expansions.com/product/blue-blood-true-blood/ Edited June 4, 2022 by tommydrifter formatting (colours) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Imagine being part of this cult and expecting the pandemic to occur, but not expecting to be on the serfs side of it? That is the case for many families heavily and historically involved within the cult. The people at the top drop you as soon they have gotten what they need, even the top few families fight one another, in fact its happening right now scrabbling for deals, all of which are being rejected. The jig is up what we see going on around us is media spin (largely owned by the cult) to spread fear to continue to control people. Their greatest fear is the general population learning what they do, and more importantly the general public learning what they are capable of. and it may be a shock but the pandemic was supposed to be a mass extinction event, not what is going on. To say we have all been sold out is an understatement to the extreme and some families who were involved are now reeling from thousands of years of accumulated lies reiterated by the lies they are happy to see others believe when they think they are indeed informed. Edited June 4, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 Lol Tommy Drifter.... someone sold you a pile...... that list of Illuminati families is nonsense.... Plantagenets? There's only a few left.... here they are, don't seem much like Illuminati to me: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) The illuminati are the blue bloods. It is their genetics that sets them apart from the rest of us and defines their position in the satanic hierarchy. When the illuminati express their reptilian genetics, they "project" a reptilian phenotype (how they look). Shapeshifting makes perfect sense when you understand what is what. It is not magic. (If I had the financial backing, I could research this and tell you more, but instead I have to find a real job.) In a sense, I see the illuminati as innocent victims in all of this, because after all they are programmed functionaries, programmed to serve their masters -- the extraterrestrials. Karl Mollison has channeled a lot of information about the extraterrestrials. You can find him on YouTube. His YouTube channel is called GetWisdom. Edited June 4, 2022 by tommydrifter changed one word: substituted "project" for express Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) The fact you use the term extraterrestrials for who the illuminati serve shows your lack of knowledge on the subject. and the fact Karl Mollison, or anyone for that matter uses the terms extraterrestrial for something else entirely is entirely my point, its misinformation/incorrect. Not suggesting other intelligent life doesn't exist either in fact it is the highest classification of secret on this planet, I wonder why tptb would keep that so secret? Certainly isn't for your benefit, what decisions do they make genuinely for your benefit? seldom, if any. So ask yourself a question, "why would that need to be kept from the public?" The answer is not one I wish to share. We are more than we have been told we are, and I mean every single person on the planet. Edited June 4, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 35 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: The illuminati are the blue bloods. It is their genetics that sets them apart from the rest of us and defines their position in the satanic hierarchy. When the illuminati express their reptilian genetics, they "project" a reptilian phenotype (how they look). Shapeshifting makes perfect sense when you understand what is what. It is not magic. (If I had the financial backing, I could research this and tell you more, but instead I have to find a real job.) In a sense, I see the illuminati as innocent victims in all of this, because after all they are programmed functionaries, programmed to serve their masters -- the extraterrestrials. Karl Mollison has channeled a lot of information about the extraterrestrials. You can find him on YouTube. His YouTube channel is called GetWisdom. The Illuminati is just a lever of control for the true rulers. Anyone with Levantine ancestry or genetics rises very rapidly to the top, or is specifically recruited by them. The goys just serve the Levantine faction and rise only depending on how useful they make themselves..... they are however, eminently disposable, not being of the chosen Middle-Eastern bloodline. This is why for instance that none of the Illuminati bloodlines in the UK date from a period before William the Conqueror..... and indeed why this time was called the 'dark-ages' and representatives of the Levantine bankers such as Thomas Cromwell went out of their way to destroy as much as the cultural history of Britain as possible... It was only with the arrival of William the Conqueror and his extensive retenue of Levantines, that British history officially begins...as Year Zero of the start of Jewish control of the British Isles. Karl Mollison is a lunatic....and that's me being generous.....it's probably more likely he is a deceptive conman. Edited June 4, 2022 by Edgewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 6 minutes ago, Edgewood said: Lol Tommy Drifter.... someone sold you a pile...... that list of Illuminati families is nonsense.... It is not my research and I cannot verify it. It is no secret that I source a lot of my information from Stewart Swerdlow. The reason is because I have verified a lot of Dr. Swerdlow's other information to be truthful whereas everybody else I know of (with a few notable exceptions) have no idea what they are talking about, or, what they are talking about is irrelevant. The exact names are not so important but it is important to know that the illuminati is something real: it is the royal bloodlines with the higher percentages of reptilian genetics. I believe 13 is a significant number to the illuminati, and like I said, Swerdlow is one of only a handful of people who are talking sense -- so that is why go to Swerdlow first for information about the illuminati. I agree that the list of names provided should be verified but we have to start somewhere -- and Swerdlow is the best we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) Stewart Swerdlow is a very shady character. Does he ever name those who cannot be named? Edited June 4, 2022 by Edgewood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tommydrifter Posted June 4, 2022 Author Share Posted June 4, 2022 Just now, Edgewood said: Karl Mollison is a lunatic....and that's me being generous.....it's probably more likely he is a deceptive conman. Who gives a shit if Karl Mollison is a lunatic or a deceptive conman. He is telling the fucking truth and that is all that matters. If you can't see that, you're an idiot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 2 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: Who gives a shit if Karl Mollison is a lunatic or a deceptive conman. He is telling the fucking truth and that is all that matters. If you can't see that, you're an idiot. Read that sentence over a few times, go for a walk, think it through. He is way off base from the truth but much like Alex Jones, dotted bits of truth within, but ultimately dumbs people down and stops them understanding far greater truths. Which in AJs case I believe is the point. Edited June 4, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 https://www.hebrewsurnames.com/SWERDLOW Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 9 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: Then you are not a good judge of character! --- No offense, but you two have not a fucking clue what you are talking about. I pray for you both to be less stupid. I am out of here. Good night. Oh dear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 (edited) 47 minutes ago, Edgewood said: not being of the chosen Middle-Eastern bloodlines. Please expand on that for my benefit if you would? I believe they yielded during Trump admin, hence sword dance when he visited. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/video/2017/may/21/trump-joins-ceremonial-sword-dance-in-saudi-arabia-video - significance of a sword dance? https://www.visitsaudi.com/en/do/culture/sword-dancing-in-saudi Edited June 4, 2022 by TheConsultant Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheConsultant Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 35 minutes ago, tommydrifter said: Then you are not a good judge of character! --- No offense, but you two have not a fucking clue what you are talking about. I pray for you both to be less stupid. I am out of here. Good night. Not offended by someone lashing out at all, mostly disappointed we cannot have a discussion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edgewood Posted June 4, 2022 Share Posted June 4, 2022 I'm talking about the other sons of Abraham... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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