DEBUNKING A CENTURY OF WAR LIES

[jedidiah]

 

A concise presentation from James Corbett.

 

Same as it ever was; the ptb dictate, the peasants end up as cannon fodder and collateral damage due to ignorance.

 

James says getting this info out into the public arena will make the peasants react differently to the diktats of war; I really doubt that; most wont read/watch this; many are apathetic; many are fanatical zealots.

 

Seems it’s just the way of the world; the perpetuation them and us.

 

https://odysee.com/debunking-a-century-of-war-lies:acff97813ce926bfb8392a3f805ec7ea410f259b?src=embed

[MarcusOmouse]

44 minutes ago, jedidiah said:

the perpetuation them and us.

 

Or "Us and them" - potato, potarto.

Never quite understood what Pink Floyd were singing about back then.

Its only courtesy of tireless researchers such as James Corbett that I fully came to understand how it all really works.

 

 

[jedidiah]

17 minutes ago, MarcusOmouse said:

 

Or "Us and them" - potato, potarto.

Never quite understood what Pink Floyd were singing about back then.

Its only courtesy of tireless researchers such as James Corbett that I fully came to understand how it all really works.

 

 

 

Nice one mate; thanks too for the Floyd.

[JCP]

That video reminded me of these quotes:   Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” ~ Hermann Goering

“Of course people don’t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?” ~ Hermann Goering   You would think that we would at some point, see through their lies and understand that our countless sacrifices, past and present, are unnecessary. Drawing from a saying in the 60's .............................................

[JCP]

If human beings are naturally violent and war is inevitable, then why have military organizations throughout history had to expend such vast resources to brainwash soldiers in order to get them to kill and why does killing make humans mentally ill? As a thirty-one year old West Point graduate and Iraq War veteran, Paul K. Chappell has some first hand knowledge on this. But he also knows a thing or two about how to "wage peace". He is the Peace Leadership Director at the Nuclear Age Peace Foundation.

 

I saw this lecture about 10 years ago and it left a profound impact on me. Chappell exposes the many tactics that governments use to get soldiers to remain on the battlefield, kill and ultimately die. The aim of military training is not just to prepare men for battle, but to make them long for it. In my life I've seen so many causes worth dying for, but so little worth killing for.

 

 

 

[jedidiah]

On 5/8/2022 at 9:20 AM, JCP said:

That video reminded me of these quotes:   Naturally the common people don't want war; neither in Russia, nor in England, nor in America, nor in Germany. That is understood. But after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy, or a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is to tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same in any country.” ~ Hermann Goering

“Of course people don’t want war. Why should a poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best thing he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece?” ~ Hermann Goering       You would think that we would at some point, see through their lies and understand that our countless sacrifices, past and present, are unnecessary. Drawing from a saying in the 60's .............................................

 

All true of course, but I’m really tired now of ‘what ifs’.

 

Im fast coming to the conclusion that I lay no blame with the ‘ptb’ anymore; it’s the masses with their ignorance, idiocy, apathy, bowing down to them.

 

Its all about these evil bastards and what they have done to the peasants; well hey, how about the peasants taking responsibility for bowing down to them throughout history; for not telling them to shove it where the sun don’t shine; I mean come on; as we are often told, we are the many, they are the few.

 

Due to ‘our’ idiocy etc, we are here now, and we have no one to blame except ourselves.

 

Yes, there are pockets of resistance, always have been, but such a minority.

The majority of cretins who have been and are complicit in the state of this shitfest world throughout history are to blame; imo, end of.

[JCP]

3 minutes ago, jedidiah said:

 

All true of course, but I’m really tired now of ‘what ifs’.

 

Im fast coming to the conclusion that I lay no blame with the ‘ptb’ anymore; it’s the masses with their ignorance, idiocy, apathy, bowing down to them.

 

Its all about these evil bastards and what they have done to the peasants; well hey, how about the peasants taking responsibility for bowing down to them throughout history; for not telling them to shove it where the sun don’t shine; I mean come on; as we are often told, we are the many, they are the few.

 

Due to ‘our’ idiocy etc, we are here now, and we have no one to blame except ourselves.

 

Yes, there are pockets of resistance, always have been, but such a minority.

The majority of cretins who have been and are complicit in the state of this shitfest world throughout history are to blame; imo, end of.

 

To a large degree I agree with you, but it is the PTB that are lying to people and fooling them into unwarranted wars. They convince people that they're actions are protecting their family, loved ones, and their way of life. Yes, people can be blamed for their ignorance, but the young that die in these wars have very little life experiences, and are conditioned thru MSM, movies, propaganda, corporate perks like cheaper interest rates, thanking them for their service, etc. So who is ultimately to blame? The fools that fall for the lies, or the PTB that invest, perpetrate, and fabricate these wars? I see the ignorant as victims of these predators the same way I see the vaxxed as victims and find it hard to lay the blame at their feet. There is a big difference between being ignorant and being diabolical, but I do see your point.    

[truepositive]

The only thing that is truly inexcusable is to know how everything works and STILL choose money and status at the cost of fucking other people over. The psychopaths ruin everything they touch, every single thing. Get rid of them and the world starts to look better within a day.

[jedidiah]

25 minutes ago, JCP said:

 

To a large degree I agree with you, but it is the PTB that are lying to people and fooling them into unwarranted wars. They convince people that they're actions are protecting their family, loved ones, and their way of life. Yes, people can be blamed for their ignorance, but the young that die in these wars have very little life experiences, and are conditioned thru MSM, movies, propaganda, corporate perks like cheaper interest rates, thanking them for their service, etc. So who is ultimately to blame? The fools that fall for the lies, or the PTB that invest, perpetrate, and fabricate these wars? I see the ignorant as victims of these predators the same way I see the vaxxed as victims and find it hard to lay the blame at their feet. There is a big difference between being ignorant and being diabolical, but I do see your point.    

 

Sorry, but if the many took the time to research/learn what’s what; to be aware in the first place that wars and all the other heinous shit that goes on is just wrong none of it would happen.

 

Im through with making excuses for the fools; their actions/inaction drags those of us who try to stop the so called ptb perpetrating their atrocities down.

 

Theyve had all history since the beginning of time to realise what’s going on; if that’s not the epitome of idiocracy, denseness, etc, what is; or is it just plain laziness, apathy?  In which case the many deserve all they get; only trouble with that, as I’ve said, the few of us get dragged down with the idiots.

[jedidiah]

16 minutes ago, truepositive said:

The only thing that is truly inexcusable is to know how everything works and STILL choose money and status at the cost of fucking other people over. The psychopaths ruin everything they touch, every single thing. Get rid of them and the world starts to look better within a day.

 

Psychos will always be with us; whether they be tptb affiliated or your Joe Bloggs down the road, because we’ve tolerated it.

 

This world is totally imperfect, and imo it’s not just tptb that make it so.

 

Thats why I’m tired of the many not taking personal responsibility, down through the ages, and instead blaming all those nasty psychos.

 

If, from the beginning, they were told to fuck off, this world would not be the way it is.

 

We are the masters of our own misfortune, so why blame the psychos?

 

Because we’re a,largely, bunch of weak whining fools.

 

This is not an attack on anyone here.

[Macnamara]

On 5/7/2022 at 10:20 PM, JCP said:

Naturally the common people don't want war

 

Yes when i look around me i see people just getting on with life. They are doing jobs or running businesses and raising families. They have no interests in the schemes of powerful people.

 

Satanists like to think of themselves as 'the strong' but they are not the physically strongest of us. The physically strongest of us are the ones engaged in physical jobs and they would eat the satanists alive in a pitched battle. Really what the satanists are talking about when they say 'the strong' is they mean the most CUNNING

 

satanists are the most CUNNING and the most MANIPULATIVE and because this enables them to get a leg up over the common people they fancy that they are the masters of all creation and that they should be the ones to perpetuate their genes (the hereditary psychopathy genes) through EUGENICS

 

But i ask you OBJECTIVELY if you think that psychopathy genes and cunning are the best building blocks for a society or if they are merely parasitical traits that ride on the back of the industry and ingenuity of the rest of society?

 

Some of those satanists or their sympathisers are here on this forum, make no mistake, and what they want is for all of us to hate each other and to hate the common man and woman. They want division in society and to delete COMPASSION in people and this covid casedemic has given them their best chance to do that because it has polarised people and caused many of us to feel frustrated and let down by our fellow man who seem simply unable to comprehend the degree of evil that we are up against

 

This breakdown of compassion feeds into two of the agendas of the satanists. First of all they are working to create a world government run by them and they have that in the form of the united nations which is a de facto world government. But they need to destroy any sub layers to the power of that which means destroying national governments through the dissolution of nations and they do this by breaking down national identity in the minds of the people through mass immigration and by driving wedges into society through polarisation so that people don't feel societal cohesion with their fellow countrymen and women. This has led to a country that is less safe and less friendly.

 

Secondly they want to justify their eugenics agenda which means the culling of anyone they don't like. In order to keep the silent complicity of sections of the public they must turn them against other sections of the public. As they go about injecting people with poison they want us conspiracy theorists to shut up about it and just let the 'sheeple' die.

 

Two of the four pillars of satanism are social darwinnism which they believe to be the survival of the strong (most cunning and manipulative) and eugenics which means the removal of the people they see as weak.

 

But if you remove all the least cunning and least manipulative people, the ones who are just quietly going about their lives, what kind of society is left? What kind of traits do we really want to build a society on?

 

Corbett's video is VERY good because it shows that the globalist, satanic elites have been crushing any people around the globe who were not directly under their control, especially energy independent countries. They have done this through cunning and subterfuge which is also what they are using to build their new society

Edited May 9, 2022 by Macnamara

[Velma]

Unlike London transport, people talk to each other on rural buses in Scotland, whether they know you or not, there is much to discuss!

 

I joined my local bus during an ongoing conversation, being directed at all the passengers who were listening by a chap I assumed was a typical prole who, if he had another brain cell, it would be lonely, but he was saying, “Do you know what this war is about? Making money! Why are we sending £300million to Ukraine when we have problems like homelessness here? It makes no sense” he said. “Unless we are being attacked, this war has nothing to do with us and we should refuse to fight. Our involvement is puting pressure on Putin, so he has every right to react. If they start a Third World War, we the people, should refuse to go!"

 

He had basically summarised Major General Smedley Butler’s ‘War is a Racket’ and reached the same conclusion:

 

Three steps must be taken to smash the war racket.

1. We must take the profit out of war.

2. We must permit the youth of the land who would bear arms to decide whether or not there should be war.

3. We must limit our military forces to home defense purposes.

 

The guy on the bus ranted on, since nobody else commented, “What we need is a leader with heart, someone who actually cares about people.” I interjected and said, “Someone like you?” He laughed, but I was serious. If we need a ‘leader’ at all, it should be someone like him, a grass roots individual with a big heart and no agenda.

 

The moral of this story is, all is not lost if this is how "the proles” are thinking and do not judge a book by its cover!

 

War is a Racket

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

 

 

[truepositive]

On 5/8/2022 at 11:13 PM, jedidiah said:

 

Psychos will always be with us; whether they be tptb affiliated or your Joe Bloggs down the road, because we’ve tolerated it.

 

This world is totally imperfect, and imo it’s not just tptb that make it so.

 

Thats why I’m tired of the many not taking personal responsibility, down through the ages, and instead blaming all those nasty psychos.

 

If, from the beginning, they were told to fuck off, this world would not be the way it is.

 

We are the masters of our own misfortune, so why blame the psychos?

 

Because we’re a,largely, bunch of weak whining fools.

 

This is not an attack on anyone here.

I should have clarified a bit further; not disagreeing with you, but things are a little bit more nuanced especially in the sense of the P's being 'in charge' of far too many things. Our current 'societal models' have made it very problematic to deal with this particular problem which is a sharp contrast with earlier times, because the larger your overall 'structures' are the easier it becomes for the P to camouflage itself. In small tribal organizations that was simply not possible due to 'shorter lines' between everyone and a lack of options to mask a lack of empathy; acting only works when there is a stage and 'other layers of protection' between evil and its perpetrator. When everyone knows everyone, it is much easier to sniff out who mutilated animals in your village, or beat up on the mute person for kicks, or whatever you might imagine, if that makes sense.

 

When evil mostly occurs 'by proxy' the identification process changes, you cannot clearly point out 'that's the one' because of all kinds of plausible deniability. The P CEO is just 'tweaking numbers' for the company's sake (and his own of course) even if several steps down the road that leads to people dying. Thomas Sheridan once argued that there is evidence that P's were treated much differently in tribal systems; basically, they were given a limited amount of chances when an obviously evil act would happen, and if nothing changed over a longer period of time, they would have a 'hunting accident' at some point.

 

Referring back to your first line, the most pressing issue is that Joe Bloggs cannot do harm to whole world, yet we have systems in place that allow these people into positions where they CAN do exactly such. By no means is it the only problem we have, but it is very high on the overall list of things, because it pulls everyone else down via mimetics. I am not saying this process happens to everyone, but the unmindful will slowly degenerate automatically from it.

P.S - mimetics referring to Rene Girard's work mostly for those interested.

 

This is a topic worth several books that i 'coincidentally' discussed with two people today, but i digress. Some thoughts on the misfortune and weakness coming later.

[truepositive]

15 hours ago, Velma said:

The moral of this story is, all is not lost if this is how "the proles” are thinking and do not judge a book by its cover!

 

War is a Racket

https://ratical.org/ratville/CAH/warisaracket.pdf

 

 

I would love to see various reactions to watching 'Kelly's Heroes'. Probably my favorite war-related movie of all time.

[jedidiah]

7 minutes ago, truepositive said:

I should have clarified a bit further; not disagreeing with you, but things are a little bit more nuanced especially in the sense of the P's being 'in charge' of far too many things. Our current 'societal models' have made it very problematic to deal with this particular problem which is a sharp contrast with earlier times, because the larger your overall 'structures' are the easier it becomes for the P to camouflage itself. In small tribal organizations that was simply not possible due to 'shorter lines' between everyone and a lack of options to mask a lack of empathy; acting only works when there is a stage and 'other layers of protection' between evil and its perpetrator. When everyone knows everyone, it is much easier to sniff out who mutilated animals in your village, or beat up on the mute person for kicks, or whatever you might imagine, if that makes sense.

 

When evil mostly occurs 'by proxy' the identification process changes, you cannot clearly point out 'that's the one' because of all kinds of plausible deniability. The P CEO is just 'tweaking numbers' for the company's sake (and his own of course) even if several steps down the road that leads to people dying. Thomas Sheridan once argued that there is evidence that P's were treated much differently in tribal systems; basically, they were given a limited amount of chances when an obviously evil act would happen, and if nothing changed over a longer period of time, they would have a 'hunting accident' at some point.

 

Referring back to your first line, the most pressing issue is that Joe Bloggs cannot do harm to whole world, yet we have systems in place that allow these people into positions where they CAN do exactly such. By no means is it the only problem we have, but it is very high on the overall list of things, because it pulls everyone else down via mimetics. I am not saying this process happens to everyone, but the unmindful will slowly degenerate automatically from it.

P.S - mimetics referring to Rene Girard's work mostly for those interested.

 

This is a topic worth several books that i 'coincidentally' discussed with two people today, but i digress. Some thoughts on the misfortune and weakness coming later.

 

I cannot agree; people make things too complicated; they read too much bullshit; take on board the bullshit that resonates with them the most.

 

Anyone with a modicum of common sense can see who’s an arsehole, and take steps to dealing with said arsehole; in the wide arena and not so wide.

 

We have been lied to so thoroughly for so long; and simple things have been made to be so complicated that we think we need ‘learned’ people, ‘scholars’ to show us the way.

 

Not me, not anymore; look to yourself; use your common sense, your inner knowing, your native nous; something we have forgotten how to do after being dictated to, ‘nannied’ for all history.

 

Most won’t; they need their ‘gurus’ - as a wise person said to me recently - they haven’t got the wherewithal to look to themselves.

 

Your opinion is yours, good for you; but having finally learned, I’m sticking to mine; I don’t need a crutch, I’m all that is (thanks Icke).

[truepositive]

I'm not really interested in dipping into semantics here because that never nets any results without finding logical and philosophical common ground, clear definitions of a host of relevant words and so on, it's going to take far too long for this forum, and requires mutual frames of reference that are not present.

 

If the point is that most people lack self-reflection, look to outside sources to 'save them', are messed up psychologically, have very muddled perceptions of most things, lack discipline, then yes i agree with all of that. But please don't assume that because i did some very brief referencing of 'stuff' i have put a bunch of people up on pedestals, it's all about not reinventing the wheel, and putting things into useful context, which you did not address at all referring psychopathy. Being an arsehole does not describe it (or anything really), the definition is fairly clear in mentioning an almost complete lack of empathy, a strong tendency towards mimicry and other forms of acting, and a systematically distorted/ uneven view of the self in relation to the rest of the world. Alas.

 

Some aspects of this world simply ARE complicated, i don't expect you to accept this notion from me or anyone else, but summarizing/ getting to the gist/ condensing information has its limits, quite literally when it comes to information theory and compressing data, as well as music in related ways. I have been considering those exact mechanisms in more contexts then most people you have read from or know of, whether you accept that statement or not, you simply can not skip to advanced metallurgy for structural integrity in industry specific construction of, say power plant parts, from a limited background. I can write a book about that too if i completely omit the math involved, but that would have no audience at all. So i never speak in certainties about things i can't have enough knowledge of, technical details.

 

Your whole post would get ripped to shreds in multiple academic studies (which hold limited value but that is a wholly different topic again) for containing very little (if any) concrete information. Blanket statements, ambiguity, vague categorizations and lots of extremely multi interpret-able words. If you want to talk about 'simple things we have forgotten to do' how about using language with care and precision? Turns out that is actually not a simple task, but most people are too lazy to even try. I like it? Oh i don't like it. Not natural human behavior, another book worthy topic.. Sensing a trend here. Common sense? Define common and sense, i see that separating the words changes the meaning, but together then? How does it function, where does it arise from, how can we gauge its reliability? Maybe it should be judged on a personal level only? 

 

No i am not suggesting that you need to know exactly how the non-material aspects of the world function to be able to do anything with them, but knowing nothing is equal to sticking your wet thumb outside and producing an accurate weather prediction for the coming week.

 

There is no 'decomplexifying' everything unless we throw out 95% of science, embrace FE and accept the firmament, and perhaps the 'traditional creation story' as a cherry on top. As well as a serious dose of ludditism that even i am not ready to embrace. If you are going to regress into more non-descript oneliners that will be it for the current discussion from my side, perhaps to your relief. As an extra cherry on top

Quote

Your opinion is yours, good for you; but having finally learned, I’m sticking to mine; I don’t need a crutch, I’m all that is (thanks Icke).

 

You did not offer insight on 'what my opinion' was. Rendered subtle judgment with the second statement, then described you have 'finally learned' - what?

'I'm all that is' sounds very akin to solipsism, are you sure that's what you meant to state there? - I don't recall that being Icke's message, but i did not read all his books and everyone has their moments of weakness if; in case he did actually state that at some point. Pure solipsism has been considered undefendable by every philosopher on the planet for a very long time.

 

Now, back to war i guess.

Edited May 10, 2022 by truepositive
words

[Macnamara]

5 hours ago, truepositive said:

'I'm all that is' sounds very akin to solipsism, are you sure that's what you meant to state there?

 

as mark passio says solipsism is one of the imbalances that the satanists want to push onto the general populace through the new age movement. satanists don't actually believe it themselves

[Macnamara]

6 hours ago, truepositive said:

 Being an arsehole does not describe it (or anything really)

 

people who disagree will always call each other areseholes

 

even the one that is objectively wrong will call the other one an arsehole

 

movieland presents a completely false perception of reality by depicting bad people as wearing evil masks and costumes and wearing black etc. In reality evil people come with a smile and false promises of positive things: they lie. Generally they are very presentable as well: very smartly turned out. This is why the best maxim for approaching the subject is to forget surface appearances and instead to judge a tree by its fruit

Edited May 10, 2022 by Macnamara

[Macnamara]

False Flags & Fake Revolutions – David Icke Talking In 2014

https://davidicke.com/2022/05/09/false-flags-fake-revolutions-david-icke-talking-in-2014/