EMF and the covid vaccine (a split from Mega thread)

[Beaujangles]

EMF and the covid vaccine (a split from Mega thread)

[Macnamara]

so one aspect that is often overlooked is how things react together SYNERGISTICALLY.

 

People ask 'what does 5G do to us' or 'what does glyphosate do to us' or 'what does thimerosol do to us' or 'what does fluoride do to us' but perhaps we need to go a level deeper to ask what these things do to us when they react together in the human body?

 

With the vaccines we now know that the aluminium that is used as an adjuvant to provoke an immune response in the body can cross the blood brain barrier

 

But glyphosate which most people have in their system because it is in so many foodstuffs because it is sprayed on the crops in the form of roundup can weaken the blood brain barrier as can microwaves. Glyphosate also weakens the gut lining

 

So if we know that they are hitting us with multiple different things like fluoride in the water and microwaves from the wifi and the 5G and aluminium in the vaccines and glyphosate in the foods then we need to consider that they know that these things will have certain effects when mixed together in the human body

 

Dr Stephanie Seneff has a lot of good talks online about how things react synergistically and she has a lot to say about glyphosate. When the european parliament was considering whether to extend the licence for round up they tested the urine in the politicians of the European parliament and found that over 90% had glyphosate in their system. It's everywhere

Edited May 3, 2022 by Macnamara

[TheConsultant]

3 minutes ago, Beaujangles said:

 

Look, I get you. I get how you see things...I really do. I understand that you like to do things your way. Like lining things up etc. But sometimes people can just have an opinion, that they form for various reasons. It could be based on much research or based on what they experience (which is not necessarily provable in and of itself) Now I know I could post a ton of links that have helped form my opinions and when I have a bit of time I will find a few. However, as this thread was trundling along there was no actual need to be arbitrarily asking for someone to prove their thought process at that instant. This is a mega thread and if you want to discuss EMF and its relation to the covid poison...maybe you could start another topic or see if an existing one is already in place. I'm sorry you are upset that people aren't engaging on demand. Maybe they will in a specific thread. I will debate you in another thread as and when I have the time. This is not an affront to you. I appreciate your tenacity. 

Opinions that spread fear are to be discussed until you arrive at understanding the truth or untruth within. Otherwise peoples opinions are just causing alarm to everyone who doesn't know any better. It came up within the megathread and instantly no one offered anything. 

EMF can alter your hormonal balance, mood, circadian rhythm, heartrate, DNA. But its not linked to vaccines so far in my many thousands of hours of looking in to these things. But it can also heal wounds, fix bone breaks, cure cancer, pretty much every known disease. I know by what I speak regarding field theory.

Drag some vids/podcasts out at some point, I am genuinely interested in how people form their opinions.

[Bombadil]

6 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

so one aspect that is often overlooked is how things react together SYNERGISTICALLY.

 

People ask 'what does 5G do to us' or 'what does glyphosate do to us' or 'what does thimerosol do to us' or 'what does fluoride do to us' but perhaps we need to go a level deeper to ask what these things do to us when they react together in the human body?

 

With the vaccines we now know that the aluminium that is used as an adjuvant to provoke an immune response in the body can cross the blood brain barrier

 

But glyphosate which most people have in their system because it is in so many foodstuffs because it is sprayed on the crops in the form of roundup can weaken the blood brain barrier as can microwaves. Glyphosate also weakens the gut lining

 

So if we know that they are hitting us with multiple different things like fluoride in the water and microwaves from the wifi and the 5G and aluminium in the vaccines and glyphosate in the foods then we need to consider that they know that these things will have certain effects when mixed together in the human body

 

Dr Stephanie Seneff has a lot of good talks online about how things react synergistically and she has a lot to say about glyphosate. When the european parliament was considering whether to extend the licence for round up they tested the urine in the politicians of the European parliament and found that over 90% had glyphosate in their system. It's everywhere

I personally believe there are 4 main possibilities for all the crap they push on us

 

1.  Deliberate intent to do harm. For numerous different reasons. Population decreasing, increased Pharma profits or just because they can etc.

2. Pure greed.

3. Power and control

4 All of the above

[Macnamara]

Just now, TheConsultant said:

EMF can alter your hormonal balance, mood, circadian rhythm, heartrate, DNA. But its not linked to vaccines

 

there are a few different angles through which we can approach that issue but lets speculate a bit here

 

Lets say that the conspiracy theories that were knocking around PRIOR to the covid casedemic about vaccines potentially being used to put some sort of nanotech inside people are true, as a hypothetical argument.....

 

The theory would then go that the microwaves from the 5G could then affect and interact with that nanotech inside people

[TheConsultant]

7 minutes ago, Macnamara said:

 

there are a few different angles through which we can approach that issue but lets speculate a bit here

 

Lets say that the conspiracy theories that were knocking around PRIOR to the covid casedemic about vaccines potentially being used to put some sort of nanotech inside people are true, as a hypothetical argument.....

 

The theory would then go that the microwaves from the 5G could then affect and interact with that nanotech inside people

yes i cannot disagree, but you dont need anything inside of you ab extra to EMF in order to cause some serious changes in peoples behaviour/mood etc. So its kind of redundant to need anything injected in to you to do what they are clearly already capable of doing to people, not denying any of that.

I am also not saying vaccines aren't potentially harmful, just not linked to EMF (so far) which is what was mentioned initially.

Edited May 3, 2022 by TheConsultant

[Bombadil]

I agree that there is a debate about whether EMFs are involved with cv and it possible effects.

This is not the thread to discuss it. There are multiple EMF threads and more specific cv threads to post about this.

Could we please find an appropriate thread for this discussion.

[Beaujangles]

@TheConsultant Would you like to put your findings here in relation to your views?

 

I may not have time this evening to debate but I will at some point. Thank you for addressing it. I look forward to lots of input from those who have an opinion on it.

[Beaujangles]

@Macnamara Would welcome any EMF/Vax posts here.

[TheConsultant]

1 hour ago, Beaujangles said:

@TheConsultant Would you like to put your findings here in relation to your views?

 

I may not have time this evening to debate but I will at some point. Thank you for addressing it. I look forward to lots of input from those who have an opinion on it.

Yes I am waiting to see what people post regarding EMF and vaccines as it isn't something I put forward myself - happy to be wrong. Happy is the wrong word, as none of this is fun to learn about of course.

Edited May 3, 2022 by TheConsultant

[Beaujangles]

21 minutes ago, TheConsultant said:

Yes I am waiting to see what people post regarding EMF and vaccines as it isn't something I put forward myself - happy to be wrong. Happy is the wrong word, as none of this is fun to learn about of course.

 

Yes, ok. I will look for the things I have read...it wont be tonight though. Thank you for joining in with the new thread.

[Anti Facts Sir]

1 hour ago, TheConsultant said:

I am genuinely interested in how people form their opinions.

Mine come from living it myself, and knowing others who live it themselves. And then reading about yet more who have experienced the same.

[TheConsultant]

23 minutes ago, Anti Facts Sir said:

Mine come from living it myself, and knowing others who live it themselves. And then reading about yet more who have experienced the same.

Targeted individuals, are you eluding to that? or that you and others you know and have spoken to have been manipulated or similar by the combination of EMF and vaccine?

[Anti Facts Sir]

No I'm saying that I, and others I know, and others still that I hear/read about and see reported, are living the effects of "vaccines"/shedding combining with EMF exposure. This is everyday stuff for a lot of people.

[Sanityisgone]

On 5/3/2022 at 9:41 PM, TheConsultant said:

yes i cannot disagree, but you dont need anything inside of you ab extra to EMF in order to cause some serious changes in peoples behaviour/mood etc. So its kind of redundant to need anything injected in to you to do what they are clearly already capable of doing to people, not denying any of that.

I am also not saying vaccines aren't potentially harmful, just not linked to EMF (so far) which is what was mentioned initially.

 

Most of the people if not all the people who have told me they've "had it" Say they have felt weak for up to weeks after they have no energy.

 

They're all fat and unhealthy

 

They've also all got phones in their pockets

[TheConsultant]

On 5/4/2022 at 12:08 AM, Anti Facts Sir said:

No I'm saying that I, and others I know, and others still that I hear/read about and see reported, are living the effects of "vaccines"/shedding combining with EMF exposure. This is everyday stuff for a lot of people.

Is it? no other explanation possible? no other variables? 

[Nip]

In Mary Roach’s book Spook, we learn about the experiments that have been conducted in relation to this theory. Called by some the "Fear Cage” and by others a "Haunt Box," the reference is the same: an intentional collection of high EMF in a centralized area.  Dr. Michael Persinger of the Consciousness Research Lab at Laurentian University (Ontario, Canada) has done many experiments with human subjects to find a correlation between exposing the right temporal lobe of the brain to high EMF and the subject’s subsequent feeling of a "presence."  Dr. Persinger has found that, by using a soundproof chamber and a helmet covered in electro-magnets to expose that region of the brain to increased EMF, a decrease is seen in the melatonin levels in the brain. This in turn causes tiny, epileptic-like seizures, which then cause hallucinations. According to his research, over 80% of subjects reported feeling “a presence” in the locked room with them, proving that these targeted EMF fields indeed have an effect on brain chemistry and human behavioral reactions.

 

That being said, note that Dr. Persinger’s results do not claim the subjects “hallucinated,” but more simply that they reported a feeling of a presence. Whether or not that sensory perception is accurate is a question Dr. Persinger himself has yet to answer. In fact, he says in one of his papers, "Although these results suggest that these apparitions are an artifact of an extreme state-dependence, the possibility that they are associated with transient, altered thresholds in the ability to detect the normally indiscriminable stimuli cannot be excluded.”  In other words, Dr. Persinger himself cannot determine whether the true effect of EMF on brain chemistry causes hallucinations, or if increased EMF allows us to sense an actual presence that we couldn't before. And this chicken or egg question – what comes first, the entity or the energy needed to sense it? – is what keeps EMF meters of all sizes, types, and strengths in the standard arsenal of nearly all paranormal investigators.